Hi again, I do promise that this is my very last post for the day. I am glad tha hla wrote in because it does illustrate what I was trying to say when I wrote the letter via when I think it is appropriate to "advertise on lists". I first found out about hla's list on Genire. I went for a while and then stopped not because this wasn't a great meeting because it was. I kept forgetting. Then flp mentioned she was going so I did go back for a couple of sessions. I not only find out about groups on lists but I depend on lists for reminders. When I read on Genire that there was a class, I did get to class. Unfortunately I get behind on my lists so I miss reminders about special meetings at IIGS or dalnet etc. When Fianna first started we were always reminding each other about special events. Why don't we all try to reinstitute this practice. If you hear that Pam Middleton Lee or Cyndi Howells is going to be a special guest on IRC post to the list. Anyway this letter is getting longer so I need to get to my original point. Although I seldom get there hla's Irish meeting is actually almost like a class (more of a seminar actually). hla is very knowledgeable. Although it is a smalll group ppl are often thrashing out thorny research problems. I have found the sessions I have attneded to be very worthwhile. It IS a small group, but if more ppl went it would be a larger group. The meetings are on Monday at IIGS. I know that 3:00 CST may not be possible for some of you, but I think it is probably about 9:00 where hla is. It rather reminds me of when I asked a VU student to a special Fianna meeting and he wrote back and told me that it was the middle fo the night where he was and he was still catching up on the sleep he missed attending VU the previous term. But if we want to make contact with the world genealogical community we have to get used to some odd hours. TTYL Gail in MO