Fianna, a list for general Irish genealogy and some general Irish info, still exists :) Some of us really miss the classes we shared.... And our web site is being updated (finally) as chirho struggles with recovering data from a hard drive crash last fall. If you go to any page on Fianna <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/"> http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/</A> you'll see that some of them have newer dates at the very bottom of the page. That indicates a page that has been recovered and updated. :) PBN has been faithfully coding the surname submissions and chirho is working at getting the surname pages caught up again. Hope this answers questions!