Gordon, I posted that message on the list, because I had no way to do a private message. I did send all 5 parts of the database to the person who requested,but it took me far too long to repeat the exercise, However, the original posting, in 5 parts, was done by Ruth Hakala on this list and can be re- trieved from the archives at http://www.rootsweb.com (to mailing lists) Sharon Carberry