Laura, I can only second chirho. I do hope you can take the list. There have not been a lot of postings lately and I did wonder whether the list would just fold. However, I was thinking it over last night and thought that maybe we are just going through a dead period right now. Marrthe did impart some information at the web design meeting the other night that might be of interest to some of the Fennidi. I will try to post this information to the group later today. Bye for now, Gail Possum Hill Farm

Welcome Home Cloudy (Laura)... I for one would like to see you taking care of your baby again! chirho At 06:30 PM 9/30/97 -0700, Melvin Schmidt wrote: > I would like to take over, still have password and all pertinent info. >Laura > >-----Original Message----- >From: John W. Cullen <<cullen@robles.callutheran.edu> >To: Odea97@aol.com <<Odea97@aol.com> >Cc: Fianna Mailing List <<fianna-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 5:16 PM >Subject: Re: Mailing List Management > > Anne Boyes (remove the # to reply) <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Hi: I am hoping someone can tell me where to write for civil records in County Claire, Ireland? I am looking for a birth certificate -- year of birth 1879. 1). How much are birth certificates? 2). Do these records exist for that year - 1879? 3). And how much do they cost? (in Amercian dollars please) ? ######################################### Where to write for church records? 1). Where can I find baptismal records for County Claire, Ireland? 2). Do these records exist for that year - 1879? 3). And how much do they cost? (in American dollars please)? is knowing that they were from County Claire enough information? Would appreciate any additional information, thanks, Lynn

I would like to take over, still have password and all pertinent info. Laura -----Original Message----- From: John W. Cullen <cullen@robles.callutheran.edu> To: Odea97@aol.com <Odea97@aol.com> Cc: Fianna Mailing List <fianna-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Mailing List Management >On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 Odea97@aol.com wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> i would like to know more about it. I may take it on. I need to know how >> many people are on it and where it is advertized - does it need more posting >> around? >> Also, does the name FIANNA have to do with politics? perhaps that would keep >> it slow - can the name be changed to add another word after FIANNA to make it >> more social or genealogy oriented. just wondering. >> I have a genealogy website if you would like to stop & visit - >> http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html >> >> bye, >> Catherine O'Dea >> >Catherine, > >The Fianna List was an offshoot of a course on genealogy with Virtual >University. THe list essentially deals with Irish genealogy. Many of the >members are very knowledgeable about this subject. I am not. > >I am sure that you will hear from other members of the Fianna list who can >tell you more. > >REgards, > >John > > > >

On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 Odea97@aol.com wrote: > Hi John, > > i would like to know more about it. I may take it on. I need to know how > many people are on it and where it is advertized - does it need more posting > around? > Also, does the name FIANNA have to do with politics? perhaps that would keep > it slow - can the name be changed to add another word after FIANNA to make it > more social or genealogy oriented. just wondering. > I have a genealogy website if you would like to stop & visit - > http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html > > bye, > Catherine O'Dea > Catherine, The Fianna List was an offshoot of a course on genealogy with Virtual University. THe list essentially deals with Irish genealogy. Many of the members are very knowledgeable about this subject. I am not. I am sure that you will hear from other members of the Fianna list who can tell you more. REgards, John

Some time ago, I took over responsibility for managing the Fianna Mailing List. However, I am going to be out of the country next month and this is a good time for me to relinquish this responsibility. As this is a leaderless, group, all that I can do is to ask for a volunteer to assume responsibility. The job is simple and not time-consuming. I will provide the necessary instructional help. TIA John

Dia daoibh, With apologies to all the other Fennidi this only concerns those of us who are taking VU class on web design. I am not sure who is actually in our group since SLH has the addresses. Even if SLH is going to be gone I am going to the small group meeting room tonight at the usual time. Hope to see some of you (small group members) there. Slan! Bruce and Gail Possum Hill Farm

In looking at Irish records ( e.g. GRO and parish records) of the 19th century I have come across many minor variations in the spelling of both family names and first names in records referring to the same person- Catherine and Kathryn; Keogh and Kehoe. Recently, however, I have come across a perplexing series of records which, if my assumptions are on target, appear to go far beyond the creative spelling practices of local clergy and registrars. I would appreciate the experiences and opinions of anyone who might help explain these gross variations in spelling: In my paternal great grandparents' families (William J. Weekes and Mary Anne Leavy) the typical spelling of their family names (ca. 1850 to 1900 in Dublin, Kildare, Limerick and Waterford) are Weekes or Weeks and Leavy, Leavey or on one occasion Levy. These records come from church baptismal and marriage records and GRO B/M/D records and Griffith's valuation records. However in trying to piece together records for my great great grandfather's family - Henry and Catherine Weekes - ( the records are from Dublin ca. 1850 - 1870) I found very few appropriate records which relate to Weekes or Weeks. I did find baptismal records (1860 and 1863) for a Sarah and Anne Weeks at St. Michans RC church which is the parish church where most of my great grandparents children were baptized. The father is Henry Weekes, the mother Catherine Delany Weeks. I found GRO birth records under the name WAX for these same children- father Henry WAX, mother Catherine Delany WAX. The address is the same as that of the Weekes girls who got baptized at St. Michans and the dates match. I can not be certain that these girls are our relatives, but the circumstantial evidence is good. My great grandparent' s marriage cert lists my grat randfather's father as Henry Weekes , confectioner; his mother as Catherine -Weekes -no maiden name even on the original church records. Their address is in St. Michan's neighborhood. So it seems likely that they are also the parents to the Sarah and Anne mentioned above. I have since found a large number of civil records from the 1860's relating to Henry Wax and Catherine Delany Wax, but I have found no corresponding Weekes records to date other the two baptism records previously mentioned. The Wax records include births at one maternity hospital but several different "informants" (apparently attending physicians or midwives )including one birth reported by Catherine Delany WAX. There are also several death records recorded by two different registrars - all using the name WAX. Since the use of Weekes predates the this frequent use of WAX, and since I have never heard the name WAX used after 1872 I am perplexed. Can anyone suggest an explanation or offer similar experiences? Also what do you think of the logic connecting the Sarah and Anne Weekes to my great great grandfather w/o further substantiation? Thanks, Dennis Weeks Dennis Weeks Chairman, Dept. of Fine and Performing Arts

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From the Scotch Irish list...some of the names look familiar and one may be a match to our surname page.... peace. chirho At 01:53 PM 9/23/97 -0500, you wrote: >I have not put my more important surnames for which I am missing data on >this list for quite awhile. Anyone with information about these names please >contact me. ironduke@jumpnet.com > >PARK/E/S/QUE inVirginia > >MCHENRY in Va and Antrim > >MCKELVY in SC and Antrim > >BOWDEN/don in Virginia > >JOHNSON and HUMPHRIES in SC and Al > >CASTLEBERRY in Ga and Al. > >MCILHENNY and MOSELEY in SC > >DOUGLAS in NC > Joe in Austin >equitare arcum tendere et veritatem dicere > > Anne Boyes (remove the # to reply) <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Please note, these folks are not on the Fianna-L as far as I know, I pulled the inquiry off of another list to hand on here. The email addy of the folks doing the inquiry is right beside their names...Peace. chirho At 06:00 PM 9/22/97 -0400, I wrote: >>>> <excerpt> These names are on our Fianna list, if anyone wants to answer the questioners at Ted & Angie Strzelecki <<atstrz@icok.net> Mimi7? Cloudy? At 02:47 PM 9/22/97 -0500, wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Are there any surnames list on the web for these names? > >Ted. > </excerpt><<<<<<<< Anne Boyes (remove the # to reply) <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Hi, I am doing Hamilton research in Alabama, South Carolina, and North Carolina, also know that is Scotland Where are yours? Cloudy, aka Laura Schmidt schmidtm@3-cities.com -----Original Message----- From: Anne Boyes <boyes@gardener.com> To: FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 22, 1997 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Surnames HAMILTON and DOUGLAS

These names are on our Fianna list, if anyone wants to answer the questioners at " Ted & Angie Strzelecki <<atstrz@icok.net> Mimi7? Cloudy? At 02:47 PM 9/22/97 -0500, wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Are there any surnames list on the web for these names? > >Ted. > > Anne Boyes (remove the # to reply) <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

A Chairdre, According to information I obtained on the GenIre list the Presbyterian Church in Ireland has both an eamil and a web address. I am posting this to the list in case it would be helpful to some of the Orangemen. (Big Grin) Seriously though I am delighted that we Fennidi don't indulge in tiresome flames like some members of other irish lists!! http://www.presbyterianireland.org/ Presbyterian Church in Ireland info@presbyterianireland.org email address oppossum

Hi all! Several of these surnames match some on the Surname page. Are they yours, DO THEY MAKE A MATCH? Part of the reason for the surname page is so when one of us is out wandering around and bump into those names we can notify folks. May be blind alley..or may punch a hole through a "brick wall"..... Are we still in existence?! What's everyone doing? I've been working on a major update to the Wild Irish Roves and should have it done by early October...bposssum, thanks for the grand URL's you send at times, they do lead to interesting stuff! Just for general interest, those of us who are doing the class at VU, learning to put our family history into web pages, have a few pages at http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/sgroup.html. You're welcome to drop by. And of course keep checking the Fianna-L"s private site http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/fiandex.html. Remember, this URL is PRIVATE, for us alone! found on IRELAND-L From Phyllis Finn<<pfinn@softcom.net> At 09:29 PM 9/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >I am researching the ancestors and descendants of my FINN side. I have >very little information, which is listed below. If you are interested in >exchanging information please email me at pfinn@softcom.net Thanks, >Phyllis Finn > >Descendants of Patrick FINN >1Patrick FINN b: Bef. 1857 in Ireland d: Unknown >.+Mary GRULEY Missouri Death Certificate of Mary A FINN b: Bef. 1857 d: >Unknown >..2 Barltey FINN b: Aft. 1865 d: Unknown >..2 Margaret FINN b: Aft. 1865 d: 07-28-1952 >..2 FINN b: Bef. 1880 in Ireland d: Unknown >....3Michael E FINN b: 11-01-1895 in Ballyhaunis, Co. Mayo, Ireland d: >02-26-1931 >....+Catherine C HARTMANN b: 1901 in Clayton, Missouri m: 1921 d: 1967 >Father: Christian C HARTMANN Mother: Hermine C FRAETER >..2Catherine FINN b: Unknown d: Unknown >....+Donald E LAVIN b: Unknown d: Unknown >..2Mary A FINN b: 11-09-1877 in County Mayo, Ireland d: 01-28-1955 >....+Patrick BREHENY b: Bef. 1880 m: Bef. 1905 d: 11-1918 >....3Michael J BREHENY b: 07-27-1906 in St. Louis, Missouri d: 08-25-1987 >....+Rosemary J GRAFFIGNA b: 10-13-1922 d: 09-06-1990 Father: Victor J >GRAFFIGNA Mother: Julia Isabel HEENEY >...3Burt P BREHENY b: 03-04-1908 d: 12-20-1988 >...3John BREHENY b: 12-24-1904 d: 07-22-1962 >...3Margaret BREHENY b: 01-29-1913 d: 08-11-1993 >....+Brian J DOHERTY b: 1908 Father: Brian DOHERTY Mother: Catherine GINTY >..2 Ellen FINN b: Unknown d: Unknown >...+Hugh FORD b: Unknown d: Unknown >..2Rose FINN b: Unknown in County Mayo, Ireland d: Unknown >...+MCLAUGHLIN b: Unknown d: Unknown > > Peace, Anne (miss hearing from you folks! :( ) Anne Boyes (remove the # to reply) <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Hi Guys, This is rather long, but I thought it was worth sharing with you. Hope you enjoy it. Cheers Robyn GRANDMA AND THE FAMILY TREE There's been a change in Grandma, we've noticed her of late, She's always reading history or jotting down some date. She's tracking back the family, we'll all have pedigrees. Oh, Grandma's got a hobby, she's climbing Family Trees. Poor Grandpa does the cooking and now, or so he states, That worst of all, he has to wash the cups and dinner plates. Grandma can't be bothered, she's busy as a bee Compiling genealogy - for the Family Tree. She has no time to baby-sit, the curtains are a fright, No buttons left on Grandad's shirt, the flower bed's a sight. She's given up her club work, the serials on TV, The only thing she does nowadays is climb the Family Tree. She goes down to the courthouse and studies ancient lore, We know more about our forebears than we ever knew before. The books are old and dusty, they make poor Grandma sneeze, A minor irritation when you're climbing Family Trees. The mail is all for Grandma, it comes from near and far, Last week she got the proof she needs to join the DAR. A worthwhile avocation, to that we all agree, A monumental project, to climb the Family Tree. Now some folks came from Scotland and some from Galway Bay, Some were French as pastry, some German, all the way. Some went on west to stake their claim, some stayed near by the sea, Grandma hopes to find them all as she climbs the Family Tree. She wanders through the graveyard in search of date or name, The rich, the poor, the in-between, all sleeping there the same. She pauses now and then to rest, fanned by a gentle breeze That blows above the Fathers of all our Family Trees. There were pioneers and patriots mixed in our kith and kin Who blazed the paths of wilderness and fought through thick and thin. But none more staunch than Grandma, whose eyes light up with glee Each time she finds a missing branch for the Family Tree. Their skills were wide and varied, from carpenter to cook And one (Alas!) the record shows was hopelessly a crook. Blacksmith, weaver, farmer, judge, some tutored for a fee, Long lost in time, now all recorded on the Family Tree. To some it's just a hobby, to Grandma it's much more, She knows the joys and heartaches of those who went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept, and now for you and me They live again in spirit, around the Family Tree. At last she's nearly finished and we are each exposed. Life will be the same again, this we all supposed! Grandma will cook and sew, serve cookies with our tea. We'll all be fat, just as before that wretched Family Tree. Sad to relate, the Preacher called and visited for a spell, We talked about the Gospel, and other things as well, The heathen folk, the poor and then - 'twas fate, it had to be, Somehow the conversation turned to Grandma and the Family Tree. We tried to change the subject, we talked of everything But then in Grandma's voice we heard that old familiar ring. She told him all about the past and soon was plain to see The preacher, too, was nearly snared by Grandma and the Family Tree. He never knew his Grandpa, his mother's name was ... Clark? He and Grandma talked and talked, outside it grew quite dark. We'd hoped our fears were groundless, but just like some disease, Grandma's become an addict - she's hooked on Family Trees! Our souls were filled with sorrow, our hearts sank with dismay, Our ears could scarce believe the words we heard our Grandma say, "It sure is a lucky thing that you have come to me, I know exactly how it's done, I'll climb your Family Tree!" Author Unknown

Dia daoibh There will be another Irish chat tomorrow. The following msg just apppeared on the Gen Ire List. Slan go foill oppossum Hi all, Reminder of the IRELAND Genealogy Chat meeting: When: Monday at 9pm UK time (8pm GMT) (for a time conversion visit.. http://www.iigs.org/webmasters/faq/time_chart.htm ) Where: Server : irc.IIGS.org port : 6667 or 7000 Channel : #iigs-UKgen For details on how to join if you are new .. visit http://www.iigs.org/irc/index.htm or contact: chat.HLA@carebear.demon.co.uk Thank you for your time.

Dia daoib! I belong to another list called photo-gen. Someone sent in the URL of a one man Mathew Brady show which is touring the country: http://www.wwnet.com/~wmb/Bradypg.html Also followed a link to this great page: http://www.wwnet.com/~wmb/index.html Photography's Beginings: Slan go foill (Bye for now) O'Possum the Lost

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