A list of passengers intending to go by the British Brig ALEXIS of Greenock, to WIlmington, North Carolina, sworn 29 March 1804. Hu. McNight, 40 farmer near Belfast Jas. McNight, 54 farmer near Belfast Batty McNight, 36 farmer near Belfast Margt. McNight age uncertain near Belfast John McNight, child near Belfast Batty McNight, Jr., child near Belfast Eliza McNight, child near Belfast James Flanagan age uncertain labourer Dundalk James Gordon, age uncertain farmer Dundalk Hu. Wilson age uncertain farmer Dundalk Thos. Gormen, age uncertain labourer Creggans Wm. Greyson age uncertain labourer Creggans Oliver Plunkett age uncertain labourer Creggans Michael Mackay age uncertain labourer Cullaville Terence Murphy age uncertain labourer Carrickmacross Willm. Vance age uncertain labourer Carrickmacross Patrick Fenor age uncertain labourer Carrickmacross Indorsed from Newry

A list of passengers from Sligo to New York, sworn 29 March, 1804. Wm. Jeffers farmer Loghadill Alex Griffith farmer Loghadill John Hodman farmer Loghadill Geo. Taylor labourer Loghadill Robt. Griffith labourer loghadill Jno. Low labourer Moghean Robt. Elliot labourer Moghean Archd. Elliot labourer Moghean David Ellis farmer Tilton Thos. Armstrong farmer Tilton Andw. Taylor labourer Tilton Geo. Young labourer Tilton Michl. Farrill labourer Tilton Jno. McMorrow labourer Cloghfin Peter Brady labourer Cloghfin Jno. Carty labourer Ardnaston Patt McDonogh labourer Ardnastran Andw. McNossen clerk Ardnastran McDonogher labourer Ardnastran James McDonogher labourer Ardnastran James McDonogher junr. labourer Ardnastran Robt. Cracy labourer Loghfin Edwd. Crawford labourer Loghfin Edwd. Crawford labourer Loghfin Ben Caffry labourer Loghfin Jas. Caffuny labourer Loghfin Wm. Vaugh clerk Loghfin Henry Dowler clerk Barton Jno. Duffy labourer Barton Hugh Crawford labourer Barton Thos. Pattinson labourer Barton Hugh Davis labourer Barton

Any one ever heard of Prairie County Ireland --------------------- Forwarded message: From: jwhit@bright.net (jwhit) To: BillKEO@AOL.COM Date: 97-10-04 20:36:12 EDT hello,could you help me, i am looking up our family history and have traced it back to prairie county ireland according to records that were kept. i can not find any prairie county listed anywhere.do you know if maybe the county name was changed. thank you. jeff whitten

Thanks for the reminder Marian. Your letter brings up something I was going to mention. This has been really an an awful week!! Howver my brother is fine so I guess that puts things in perspective. Marthe talked to us about the class the other night. Actually it was during last week's class discussion. I missed this week's discussion and haven't had a chance to read the log as yet. Anyway Marthe brought up the Beginners Online Genealogy Class in the September 25 class session. I sat down the next day to send in a report to the Fianna List and my letter became much too long and tangled up so I didn't send it. I think the easiest way to do this is to copy and paste the relevant portions of the class log. "Marthe> How many people are planning on participating in the repeat Intro to Online Genealogy Class?" (Reactions from class) <Marthe> If you were given the choice of two different study group projects...one which would create a page o'links to a related subject (ie, Irish History) and the other project would be working with a large group creating an online guide to genealogy (concerning both online and offline research), which do you think you'd be more inclined to participate in?" (I am going to just delete the class comments and copy what Marthe said) <Marthe>Lessons will be almost identical. I've not had the time to add significant information to it. <Marthe>The page o' links project would only be for the duration of the class.The guide project would be an ongoing process, made permanent and available to everyone online. <Marthe>The idea is to have the study groups work on a really meaningful project, not reinventing the wheel with another links page, however nice. We have had input that some people would not want to participate in the second project, and would instead prefer just the links project. <Marthe>We're talking about large groups with sub groups. For instance, if you wanted to sign up for the German research group, you'd join the European study group, and a german sub-group. <Marthe>We are also planning several sections on organization, research hints and tips, etc. so the projects are not all ethnic/locality projects. <Marthe>There's one other exciting idea we had... and that was to encourage returning Class 325 students to participate in an advanced level study group. One of the group projects (advanced) we would encourage would be a Q&A forum...where students submit research problems, and the advanced TEAM works to give advice on how to solve the problem. <Marthe>Problems can be basic, or difficult. The advanced study group would work together to brainstorm solutions, but are able to admit they are stumped. Quite honestly I think the Guide project sounds really terrific! As JC says she pretty well maintains the Fianna web site. It's completed and pretty well stands on its own. I don't know whether there was any more discussion in this week's class. I will read the log as soon as I get a chance. Or maybe someone who attended class can give us an update. BBFN &TTYL Gail in MO (Oppossum the Lost)

> I am about to begin teaching a three-week unit on genealogy to my seventh > grade language arts class with the assistance of our social studies > teacher. Mike, I just checked out the Ancestors site and it is still working. I am not sure when Ancestors was on the air since we have such poor TV reception here. We do get commmercial channels, but getting decent public TV is a rarity. We have considered getting a dish, but we spend all our money on the puter. (VBG). I do think you could probably get the tapes. Anyway even if you don't use the Ancestors series to teach the class there are free forms etc. here. (The PDF is of course better than the GIF format). They're not bad, I've used them myself. (I'm too cheap to pay actual money for forms besides I eventually plan to use a computer program anyway). They also have a teacher's guide. The URL for Ancestors is: http://www2.kbyu.byu.edu/ancestors/ Gail in MO.

Kay, I don't know whether you are familiar with this, but there is a list 5800 Irish immigrants and the ships they came on on the web. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/passlist/5800ship.htm I spent a couple of hours there one Sunday morning a couple of months ago, and didn't find anything. Tomorrow BTW is Sunday. (Big Grin) Spent an hour going through Filby when Iona and I went to St. Joe the last time. We go down about once a month and go to the Family History Center, and the Nothwest Missouri Genealogical library. Last time we checked out the genealogical materials at the main St. Joseph Public library as well. Since I have gone through most of Filby (didn't find anything there either) I only have to check the year books as they come out. (VBG). There is a special four volume Famine ships series which I havewn't run across yet. Of course one can rent films from LDS or AGLL too. I probably should order some films and start working on them at night (the AGLL ones of course since you can't take fims out of the FHC) during harvest. My excursions will probably be fairly limited now. Actually I am beginnning to wonder how I am going to find the time to get to St. Joe to the FHC to see the MA state census for 1855 that I have ordered. Well I am starting to ramble so I will sign off now. Gail Possum Hill Farm

list of passengers from Londonderry to New York, on the ship AMERICAN, sworn at Londonderry,31 March 1804. Patk. Mckay, 40 farmer Moghera Alexr. McKay, 21 farmer Moghera Nancy McKay, 40 Moghera Thomas Bradley, 20 farmer Ballyarlin John Dougherty, 20 farmer Rushbank Thomas McGomeray, 19 clerk Londonderry Captain Sterling, 25 mariner New York James Bond, 18 clerk Londonderry John Clyde, 13 servant Rushbank Geo. Crawford, 19 farmer Coningham Robert Johnston, 20 farmer Nn. Cumber Thos. Ramsey, 21 farmer Ballyauret Gerard Twine, 23 farmer Nn. Stewart Owen McGlenhy, 34 labourer Cumber Mary McGlenhy, 32 Cumber John Donaghy, 41 labourer Ennishowin James Dougherty, 39 labourer Nn. Limavady Elenor Dougherty, 38 Nn. Limavady James Patterson, 25 farmer Desartmarten Alexr. McDonald, 19 labourer Moneymore Hugh Ramsay, 29 labourer Moneymore Alexr. Ramsay, 23 labourer Moneymore James Dougherty, 29 tanner Moneymore William Donaghy, 48 farmer Moneymore John Donaghy, 19 farmer Moneymore Alex. Donaghy, 24 farmer Moneymore Sarah Donaghy, 39 Moneymore William McLaughlin, 50 farmer Cain John McLoughlin, 28 farmer Cain Alexr. McLoughlin, 25 farmer Cain Mary McLoughlin, 48 farmer Cain James Buchannon, 35 labourer Cain WIlliam Miller, 28 servant Nn. Limavady Alex Dougherty, 35 labourer MagilliganBruce and Gail Possum Hill Farm

More passengets: List of passengers to New York on the CHARLES and HARRIOT, sworn at Sligo, 29 March 1804. Martin Carney Labourer Mogherow Peter Carroll labourer Mogherow Wm. Curry labourer Conought Fras. McGowan clerk Mogherow Roger Gill labourer Co. Fermanagh Bryan McManus labourer Co. Fermanagh Philip Rogers labourer Sligo Robert Muns labourer Drumclief Alexr. Rutledge labourer Tyrecagh Hugh Murray clerk Sligo Wm. Moreton labourer Co. Fermanagh Thos. McIntire clerk Sligo Bryan Collen labourer Brenduff John Flynn labourer Drumcliff Michael Golden labourer Drumcliff or Gorden John Elliot labourer Mulloghmore Michl. Dunn labourer Mulloghmore Peter McGarry labourer Colooney Michl. O'Hara labourer Co. Sligo James O'Hara labourer Co. SLigo Edwd. O'Hara labourer Co. Sligo Payton Farrell labourer Boyle Patt Fox labourer Boyle Mark McGowan labourer Carney Thos. McGowan labourer Carney Con. Hart labourer Co. Fermanagh James McMorrow labourer Sligo Alexr. Martin labourer Sligo Wm. Chambers labourer Leitrim Edwd. Chambers labourer LeitrimBruce and Gail Possum Hill Farm

>The following appeared on another list: > >The following information has been taken from "Handbook on Irish >Genealogy" sorry don't have the author's name or ISBN, but will try and >get it. The information was photocopied about 4-5 months ago. >Sorry I don't have time for individual lookups. >The person sending the lists in says she doesn't have time to do individual >look ups. I am printing the lists out as they come in. If anyone thinks >this is too much mail for Fianna-L I could just keep the lists and do look >ups for Fennidi. Opinions? I think this is a wonderful idea!!! I too have ancestors who came from Ireland to Philadelphia and I can't wait until they get to the list of ships and passengers from 1867!!! Thanks. Kay Buglass

Looks like Marthe is teaching the beginning class again. There is a FREE Class coming up called "Introduction to Online Genealogy" from Spectrum Virtual University. You can enroll in the class at http://www.vu.org/channel33/today/index.html Here is the info: Introduction to Online Genealogy -- You don't have to be a sophisticated Internet user to find out about genealogy in the online world! This introductory class will explain how to use Internet tools such as e-mail, Telnet, FTP, and search engines to access Usenet newsgroups, online databases, web sites, and various other online resources of interest to genealogists and those who want to learn more about their family roots and history. Veteran genealogists who are new to the Internet will benefit by learning about the many genealogical resources available. The instructor, Marthe Arends, is a prominent author and lecturer with 16 years experience in the field of genealogy. She is editor/publisher of "Online Pioneers," a popular computer genealogy newsletter. Class Schedule: 8 weeks, begins Oct. 13, 1997 Prerequisites: None Work Load: 3 hours per week

Lynn, It is preferable if you know the townland rather than just the county unless your surname is an unusual one. I have asked your question on another list where I think someone will know the answer. I hope you don't mind. I didn't use your name of course. I just posted the inquiry using my own name. One possible way to do research is through the individual county heritage centers, but apparently the quality of research varies a great deal. Anyway you obviously have a name and just need the certificate so you might not need Co. Clare Heritage Center. Your research is much later than mine, and I don't know anything about the status of Co Clare records. If I find out anything I will let you know. Gail Possum Hill Farm

Great news! My brother's angiogram came out just fine, and he is coming home. It is very difficult for a farmer to be out of commisssion at harvest time. Furthermore more although I like pigs and am used to them these particular pigs are not accustomed to me. They are in fact not becoming attached to me as time goes on. Well that's not quite true since one threatened to become "attached" to me this afternoon. In the hustle and bustle this morning someone apparently failed to hook a door properly and a sow and her litter had escaped from a pen in the farrowing house. No big deal, but my folks have a little terrier who is very protective and decided to "help out". This rather irritated the sow, but as soon as got the dog penned up I easily dealt with the sow. DH and I have not started harvest yet, but the combine is nearly ready to go. Sorry to go on about personal things just thought I would share the good news with everybody. Once again apologies to the VU group. I am sorry I couldn't make it last night. Bye for now, Gail Possum Hill Farm

List of passengers to go on board the American ship MARIA, of Wilmington, bound for Philadelphia, sworn at Londonderry, 30 March 1804. Nancy Mckeever 45 spinster Robert Fulton 43 labourer John Rice 38 labourer Mary Ann Hammond 27 spinster Nancy Fulton 31 spinster Robert Miller 26 labourer Arthur Murphy 49 labourer James Dougherty 33 labourer Jas. McKinley 23 labourer Sarah Murphy 21 spinster Mary McGomery 17 spinster Margt. Pearson 52 spinster Frans. Scott 47 labourer James Dogherty 51 labourer Saml. mcKinley 33 labourer Patt Karlin 42 labourer John McConway 28 labourer Mary McConway 26 spinster Hugh Smith 44 labourer Humphry Graham 50 labourer Thos. Graham 36 labourer Barny McCanna 43 labourer Robert Leonard 21 labourer Henry Rankin 17 labourer Wm. Anderson 53 labourer Wm. Edmond 41 labourer John Anderson 28 labourer Heny. Anderson 46 labourer Wm. Harkin 25 labourer Jos. Arskine 56 labourer Jas. Waker 40 labourer Saml. Bellman 33 labourer John Bellman 35 labourer Saml. Anderson 46 labourer Margt. Anderson 36 spinster Ann Walker 24 spinsterBruce and Gail Possum Hill Farm

The following appeared on another list: The following information has been taken from "Handbook on Irish Genealogy" sorry don't have the author's name or ISBN, but will try and get it. The information was photocopied about 4-5 months ago. Sorry I don't have time for individual lookups. List of passengers in the EAGLE fro New York, sworn at Belfast, 10 March, 1804. Josiah Kerr, 28, height 5-8, clerk, Loughbickyard. Thin faced and pretty fair. Joseph Kerr, 21 5-10, farmer, Hillsborough. Smooth and fair faced. Hamilton Kerr, 17, 5-0, farmer, Hillsborough. Smooth and fair faced. John McMurdy, 30, 5-7, farmer, Banbridge. Pitted with small pox. James McMullen, 28, 5-6, farmer, Loughbrickland. Red haired, smooth face, and lame of a knee. Robert Cavert, 36, 5-2, labourer, Rathfyland. Smooth and fair faced. Jas. Fulton, 22, 5-8, labourer, Maghrolin. Arthur Walker, 27, 5-9, labourer, Drumore. Yellow and smooth faced. Thos. Gordon, 28, 5-5, labourer, Drumore. Yellow and pitted with small pox. Robert Whany, 28, height 5-7, farmer, Drumore. Ruddy, a little pitted. Robt. Smith, 21, 5-6, labourer, Hillsborough. Sallow thin and smooth faced. Hu. Hanison, 13, 5-11, farmer, Drumore. Ruddy complexion and black eyed. Paul Rogan, 30, 5-8, labourer, Loughbuckland. Spare faced. Wm. McKee, 26, 5-10, labourer, Mt. Stewart. Thin faced and ruddy. Archd. Williams, 21, 5-8, farmer, Castle Dawson. Smotth faced, fair haired. John Benson, 19, 5-3, labourer, Near Drumore. Little pitted, black hair. Robert Patterson, 24, 5-11, farmer, Ballindeny. Black hair and ruddy. Adam Patterson, 20, 5-6, farmer, Ballindeny. Fair haired, a little pitted. John Dickson, 33, 5-7, farmer, Banbridge. Smooth face, black hair. James Black, 34, 5-11, Linnen draper, Banbridge. Smooth faced, black hair. James Moones, 21, 5-7, farmer, Ballendeny. Little pitted, fair hair. Anthy. McMordy, 44, 6-0, farmer Banbridge. Ruddy complexion. Eliz Kerr, 49, 5-4, spinster, Loughbickland. Brown complexion. Eliz Kerr, 30, 5-6, spinster, Hillsborough. Brown and smooth faced. Sarah Kerr, 49, 5-4, spinster, Hillsborough. A little pitted with the small pox. Marg. Cavart, 28, 5-0, spinster, Rathpiland. Fair and smooth faced. Eliz Walker, 24, 5-3, spinster, Dromon. Fair, a little pitted. Margaret Gordon, 21, 5-4, spinster, Dromon. Fair and smooth faced. Margaret Walker, 25, 6-0, spinster, Hillsboro. Yellow and a little pitted. Jane Whany, 35, 4-0, Dromon. Tender eyed and fair Nancy Williams, 23, 5-6, spinster, Castle Dawson. Black haired, a little pitted. Jane Dickson, 21, 5-3, spinster, Banbridge. Smooth and fair faced. Hamilton Brown, 35, 5-4, farmer, Killnechy. Pale faced and pitted. Jane Brown, 35, 5-4, spinster, Killnechy. Pale faced and pitted. Wm. Whaly a child 7 The person sending the lists in says she doesn't have time to do individual look ups. I am printing the lists out as they come in. If anyone thinks this is too much mail for Fianna-L I could just keep the lists and do look ups for Fennidi. Opinions? Bye Gail Possum Hill Farm

Hi Laura, My ancestors are from Leagh, QUEENS (LAOIS), Keadue, DONEGAL, Seefin,GALWAY and Muckalee, KILKENNY. Anne AnInAz

County Carlow, Clonegal Johnstown village ROSSITER, Anne born 1849 daughter of Michael Rossiter and Mary Doyle Emigrated to Boston area about 1870 married Dennis O'Leary , two children Michael born 1876 and James born 1872 . Dennis and Anne drowned 4 Jul 1877 Horn Pond, Woburn, Massachusetts children survived. County Tipperary O'LEARY Thomas born 10 Jun 1843 son of Patrick O'Leary and Hanorah Carey emigrated to Toronto in 1845 with parents and older siblings. Emigrated to Boston area . Married Margaret Wilson in 1872, lived in Charlestown and Somerville. Died 1916. County Cork WILSON Margaret emigrated to Boston 1869. Married Thomas O'Leary above listed. Michael Wilson brother of Margaret in US Army. Died in 1902. Buried in Arlington. Margeret Duggan Wilson mother of Margaret emigrated to Boston after her husband Patrick Wilson died in County Cork. about 1880. Unknown Counties DUNN Patrick emigrated to Prince Edward Island about 1838. Relatives Michael and James and Peter also in PEI. DERMODY Mary emigrated to Prince Edward Island and married Patrick Dunn in 1843. Alice Dermody sister of Mary. Married Francis Doyle in PEI. James Dermody brother of Mary. O'LEARY Dennis married Anne Rossiter found in 1870 census in Winchester, Massachusetts. Born in Ireland. I am planning a trip to Ireland this November. Will drive and stay in B/B, Any suggestions? NormaNisco@Aol.com

County Carlow, Clonegal Johnstown village ROSSITER, Anne born 1849 daughter of Michael Rossiter and Mary Doyle County Tipperary

Only for the genealogy website class at VU ie chirho, SLH etc. I will not be in class this evening or at the small group meeting. My bachelor farmer brother spent the night in the local hospital. They thought he might be having a coronary. He seems to feel fine now, but since it was the cardiologist's day to visit the hospital they thought he should see him. The patients are really backed up apparently so he is still there. I have to go up to the folks farm again tonight (I was up there this morning) to help the "old boy" ie my father with the chores. I will email this weekend. Gail Possum Hill Farm

Fellow Researchers, My great great grandfather Michael HOULIHAN (or HOULAHAN) of County Tipperary immigrated to this country in 1850 with his wife Catherine and his five children, Michael (about 12) Catherine (about 10), Edward (7), Julia 4, and Nora (Hannorah or Honora) my great grandfather. They settled in South Adams MA. In 1858 they moved to Nebraska City, Otoe County, Nebraska. Nora married Martin RYAN another Irish immigrant (county unknown). He was my Grandpa Mike's father. Martin RYAN died when his son Michael RYAN was two. Nora remarried another Irish immigrant Andrew WHELAN (WHALEN). My great grandmother Catherine Elizabeth ("Kate") O'HERIN was born in Fairfax VA in 1857 to John J. and Ellen MURPHY O'HERIN (I have not yet found any real proof of this, but they were supposed to be from County Cork). John J. O'HERIN was a milkman in Washington D.C during the Civil War. 1n the late 1860's the O'HERINS moved to Forbes, Holt County MO. Catherine married William GAFFNEY, an immigrant from County Limerick. Bye for now, Gail Possum Hill Farm

Laura: I have just joined this list and saw a reponse to your offer. I think it's a great idea. I have located my GARVEY family in County Clare, in the parishes of Quin and Cratloe between 1820 and 1850. I also have info on a number of other Garvey families in the same or neighbouring parishes, whose precise connections to mine are hard to pin down. The more information I collect the easier it will be to sort everyone out. So best of luck for your database, which I assume will be available or posted or...what did you have in mind? My family were James GARVEY b about 1800 married to Mary BERMINGHAM b about 1800, based in Cant, Gorteen and Dangan townlands between 1826 and 1840, then moved to Brickhill West, near Cratloe. They had seven known children, two or three of whom migrated to Australia in 1850s. Good luck! -- M.M. Brandl Hobart - Tasmania - Australia marmarbrandl@trump.net.au Researching GARVEY FLANNERY COLLINS DONNELLAN BERMINGHAM CARMODY GLEESON MCNAMARA MCINERNEY KILTY families in County Clare