I think I have finally found the right group. I am searching for relatives in County Clare by the last name of HENNESSY. John HENNESSY and his brother Owen HENNESSY came to the United States in the early 1900's. Would like to talk to other HENNESSY family members. Thanks Susan Hennessy

Give me some details and I may be able to help you. What was his name, when was he born, was he Catholic? It is almost imperative that you have his parents' names (mother's maiden). Get that bit of information from his death certificate or possible the church sacramental register of his marriage. Ellen

There is an interesting article on the Hill of Tara at the Ireland Tody Site. See: http://www.ireland-today.ie/it/it_magazine/09_zoom.html O'Possum (Gail in MO)

Norma, Tim is not AFAIK a member of Fianna. As I tried to make it clear I found Tim's great advice on another list and posted it to Fianna because I thought it was so good. However, I will try to check with members of other lists I belong to and see what I can find out!! Gail O'Possum the Lost Possum Hill Farm

That's the first time I've heard the explanation from Maria. I have some material that I will be posting in the Hideaway soon about the Fianna and some of the legends around it. Hideaway (DO NOT GIVE OUT URL) is private to this list... http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/fiandex.html Figure I'll get some new material up this weekend. Peace, chirho At 07:17 PM 10/15/97 +1000, you wrote: >JCowan wrote: > >> I had a query from someone that saw the Fianna website, I was >> wondering if anyone may be able to help answer his question? From what I >> remember, Fianna was a name that was once used by an ancient Irish army. >> Does anyone else have any info. on the Fianna name or > > >Hi, > >I wondered about the name Fianna too. I have just been >reading a book on the West of Ireland and found something >that may be relevant. If not relevant, it's interesting. > >The author is Seán Jennett, the book is "The West of >Ireland", published by Batsford, London in 1980. On p 3 of >the introduction he says: > >"In places, at at Spiddal in Galway, in Sligo, and at >Carrigaholt in Clare, there are colleges of Irish, where >students may come to learn and practice the language in the >company of native speakers... .Facility in the language may >be indicated by a small, plain ring, the fáinne, worn by >students in the lape or as a brooch - a gold ring for the >expert, a silver one for those less so." *** > >I wonder if this is the explanantion. > >Cheers, > >Maria > >M.M. Brandl >in Hobart Tasmania > >Researching GARVEY FLANNERY COLLINS CARMODY GLEESON >BERMINGHAM DONNELLAN in County Clare > > > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Tim I am going to Ireland in November and have ancesters in Tipperary. I dont know the parish. I know his name and his parents name and have two possible dates of immigration. One from the census and one from a naturalization paper. Who do you recommend that I write to for a search before I go. Do you have the email or snail mail address. Email would be better because I only have one month. Thanks for any help. NormaNisco@aol.com

This is also a posting I found on another list. It was sent in by a man named Ray Marshall so I will gove him the credit here. I did hesitate for a while before sending this on to Fianna because it is such a long posting. I really did not realize how long it was until I sent it to the printer. Luckily I sent it to the Panasonic since it is much cheaper to run than the inkjet! I have many looseleaf notebooks where I keep this sort of useful information so I printed it off and put it in my Irish Research notebook. As Ray begins his letter, "snailmail is not dead". I have alas found this to be true. Since I have failed to locate all my Irishmen on the web, I have been forced to resort to primtive genealogical practices like writing letters with my word processor, stamping and sealing them (including a LASE of course) and walking them out to the Possum Hill Farm mailbox!! (VBG) Gail Possum Hill Farm Snailmail is not dead, so you are going to need: Some Useful Addresses National Birth Certificates: Check Registrar General Offices; see addresses below for particular counties. Please make out checks to the Registrar General of Birth Government Publications Office, Sun Alliance House, Molesworth St., Dublin 2, Tel 353 1 661 3111 Central Office, Land Registry, Chancery Street, Dublin 7 (Ordinance Survey Property Maps) Valuation Office, 6 Ely Place, Dublin 2 Genealogical Office, 2 Kildare Street, Dublin 2 Leinster Eastern Health Board (Death Certificates), Dublin City and County, Kildare and Wicklow Dr. Stevens Hospital, John's Road, Dublin 8 Midland Health Board (Death Certificates), Laois, Longford, Offaly and Westmeath Arden Road, Tullamore, Co. Offaly South Eastern Health Board (Death Certificates), Carlow, Kilkenny, Tipperary S., Waterford Lacken, Dublin Road, Kilkenny North Eastern Health Board (Death Certificates), Cavan, Louth, Meath, Monaghan Navan Road, Kells, Co. Meath Carlow, Carlow Town Carlow County Library, Dublin Street, Carlow Carlow Research Centre, County Council, Carlow Town Registrar Genera, Community Care Centre, Athy Road, Carlow Town Carlovian (Annual), The Editor, St. Patrick's College Carlow Dublin Dun Laoghire-Rathdown County Library, Duncairn House, Black Rock, Dublin Fingal Fingal County Library, 11 Parnell Square, Dublin 2 South Dublin Public Library, Cumberland House, Fenian Street, Dublin 2 Dublin Corporation Fingal Heritage Group, Carnegie Library, North Street, Swords, Co. Dublin Dun Laoghaire - Rathdown Heritage Society, Moran Park House, Dun Laoghaire Registrar General, Joyce House, 8-11 Lombard St. E., Dublin 2 Dublin Historical Record (quarterly), The Hon. Editor, Old Dublin Society, City Assembly House,58 South William Street, Dublin 2 Rathmichael Historical Record (annual) Mr. D. McGarry, Hon. Editor, 196 Rathfarnam Road, Dublin 14 Royal Society of the Antiquaries of Ireland Journal (annual) The Hon. Editor, 63 Merrion Square, Dublin 2 Scathlan D Uas O'Baoill, 31 Plas Mhic Liam, Bail Atha Cliath 2 Kildare, Naas County Library, Athgarvan Road, Newbridge, Kildare Kildare Heritage and Genealogy Company, Newbridge, Co. Kildare Registrar General, Poplar House, Poplar Square, Naas Kildare Archaeological Society Journal (annual), Mrs. Grehan, Oakfield, Naas Kilkenny, Kilkenny County Library, 6 Johns Quay, Kilkenny Kilkenny Ancestry, Rothe House, Kilkenny Registrar General, County Clinic, James's Green, Kilkenny Old Kilkenny Review (annual), The Secretary, Kilkenny Archeaological Society,Rothe House, Kilkenny Laois, Portlaoise County Library, County Hall, Portlaoise Laois and Offaly Family History Research Centre, Bury Quay, Tullarmore, Co. 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Janet, I just noticed that you had pasted the original query to the bottom of the message. I was going to send you email as well as posting to Fianna when I found the message. I have answered it deleting all references to the "interesting" query etc. After all Fianna is to help people, and this is a good question. I am just not sure I have given the answer. Anyway I am answering the query and I will send you a copy. Gail Possum Hill Farm

Janet, (and anyone else) There is a short bit about the Fianna at the Dalraida site: The Fianna of Erin is on: http://www.electricscotland.com/dalriada/myths/mythol/fianna.html Neckel's Pub Fionn mac Cumhaill and the Fianna http://www.mediatel.lu/team/nmack/mmp_myth_cumhaill.html This is a new one. (Not from my bookmarks) http://celt.net/Celtic/Myths/abt_fin.html Obviously I don't have anything about Limerick boy scouts although one of my lost Irishmen ie paternal ancestors di hail from Co Limerick. I don't have much time to search so I didn't actually find the Limerick Boy Scouts. (The Other Fianna) However there are several Irish Scouting organizations on the web. Catholic Boy Scouts http://www.kst.dit.ie/scouts/cbsi.html Scouting Ireland http://www.iol.ie/~cathcart/index.html FISA A federation of the two above groups http://www.iol.ie/~cathcart/irlscout.htm BTW the CBS does sound rahter like "us" vs the Orangemen. However, according to the sites all three orgainzations are "multi-denominational and coeducational." A Dublin Boy Scout Unit http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/8400/ The De La Salle Scout Unit http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cennis/ Janet, I do know that none of these are the Irish Boy Scouts your enquirer is looking for. However, there are snailmail and email addresses at these sites where whoever made the original query could probably find the answer for their question. Thanks for the interesting peek into some of the interesting questions handled by our capable web master. (Big Grin) Do you get a lot of questions like this? We don't hear from you often enough. I enjoyed trying to help, but I am not sure this information is all that helpful Gail in MO

JCowan wrote: > I had a query from someone that saw the Fianna website, I was > wondering if anyone may be able to help answer his question? From what I > remember, Fianna was a name that was once used by an ancient Irish army. > Does anyone else have any info. on the Fianna name or > Hi, I wondered about the name Fianna too. I have just been reading a book on the West of Ireland and found something that may be relevant. If not relevant, it's interesting. The author is Seán Jennett, the book is "The West of Ireland", published by Batsford, London in 1980. On p 3 of the introduction he says: "In places, at at Spiddal in Galway, in Sligo, and at Carrigaholt in Clare, there are colleges of Irish, where students may come to learn and practice the language in the company of native speakers... .Facility in the language may be indicated by a small, plain ring, the fáinne, worn by students in the lape or as a brooch - a gold ring for the expert, a silver one for those less so." *** I wonder if this is the explanantion. Cheers, Maria M.M. Brandl in Hobart Tasmania Researching GARVEY FLANNERY COLLINS CARMODY GLEESON BERMINGHAM DONNELLAN in County Clare

Thank you Gail, great information! -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Roorda <b.roorda@msc.net> To: Post to Fianna List <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 3:36 PM Subject: Searching in Tipperary >Dear Fellow Researchers; > >I am sending on account of a journey to Ireland that appeared on another >list(Genire). It is not often that I run across an account of someone who >has been doing Irish research "out in the field so to speak." I am >probably not going to Ireland next week (Big Grin), but I did think there >was a lot of information in this letter that is helpful to those of us who >are trying to search from a distance. The information specifically >concerns research in County Tipperary (someone wrote into the Genire list >and said that it was too bad we didn't have information like this from >every county). However, maybe this will inspire other list members who >have gone to Ireland to write in and tell about their experiences. I do >know that there are several Fianna members besides me whose ancestors come >from County Tipperary. > >"Heloo, All! > >I just wanted to check in and let you all know how the search went while >I was in the homeland. > >Spent a day or so at the National Library searching for ancestors from >Moycarkey Catholic parish in County Tipperary. Much thanks for the >advice from all who contributed! The unfortunate thing about the NL is >that they have rather limited resources in terms of people who can help >you. There was a single nun (her name escapes me, but under the >circumstances, she was a complete saint) who ran the desk in the reading >room and she could tell you where certain things were if you knew what >to ask for, but didn't have the time to get into any specifics on >individual searches. Some of the other helpers were a bit snippy... > >The most unfortunate outcome of that day was the realization that all >the records for the Diocese of Cashel and Emly in Co. Tipperary (which >constitutes about 2/3 of the county, in a big swath across the middle) >are unavailable for viewing at the NL. Darn. And there seemed to be some >doubt as to exactly who had which records. Bru Boru? Northern Tipperary >(in Nenagh)? Turns out the records are spread out between these two and >the Tipperary Heritage Unit in Tipperary town proper, but mostly in the >latter. There is a listing of just who has what at the NL, according to >parish. The Bru Boru mostly only has cemetary inscriptions for the >region (as they were read off the stones themselves, so it's a bit >sketchy and anything but complete). > >The search of the Tithe Applotments and Griffiths Evaluation records >were somewhat helpful, but I hadn't quite done my homework on what the >differences were between the civil and Catholic parishes. There is >Moycarkey Catholic parish, which is large, and Moycarkey civil parish, >which is small and contained within the catholic parish along with >Fertians, Galbooly, and a couple others. A word to the wise - make sure >you know whether the parish you're searching in is the religious or >civil. The Tithe Applotments and Griffiths Evaluation records are >according to civil parishes and the townlands therein. > >By far the most valuable experience I had was at the county library in >Thurles. If anyone wants my advice, skip the NL altogether and just go >there. The woman who works in the genealogical room there (her name is >Mary) was so incredibly helpful I'm thinking about submitting her name >for canonization. She helped me get my arms around the civil/catholic >thing and also how to really make effective use of the Tithe Applotments >and Griffiths and their respective indexes. Furthermore, they really >didn't have anything at the NL that wasn't at the county Library. What >they did have that wasn't at the NL was originals for the 1840 Ordinance >Survey Maps (the microfilms at the NL are terrible) plus the originals >for the Rate Books (similar to Griffiths in content, but covers years >from 1846 through 1899) for the area. Mary also helped me figure out >exactly who had the proper Church records for the area. > >My last stop was at the Tipperary Heritage Unit in Tipperary. They are >affiliated with a separate organization that the Family Heritage group >under which the Northern Tipperary and Bru Boru fall, so if you were >thinking that all the information for Co. Tipperary was in the latter >two, as their Internet sites would have you believe, you'd better give >them a call. The people there were nice enough but very young, so I >didn't exactly have confidence that they knew entirely what they were >doing, though they did their best. Unfortunately, the farther back you >get in the records, the more scanty they get, and there are significant >gaps. If you want my advice, when having them do a search, make sure >that they send you a Xerox copy of the entire set of listings for a >particular surname rather than just information on a single first name. >In some cases, there is information on townland of origin which can help >you make associations with other possible family members you may not >have been aware of. The cost to have them do a search was 15 pounds for >two parishes to 45 pounds for all 46 parishes in the diocese. Few >parishes have records going back farther than 1795, so you may find your >genealogical search coming to an abrupt end after this experience. > >I hope this little travelogue helps some people who are doing searches >in County Tipperary. There are probably some other things that I found >out but failed to mention, so if you want to e-mail me, please do so. > >Good Hunting! >Tim Gorman" > >

Dear Fellow Researchers; I am sending on account of a journey to Ireland that appeared on another list(Genire). It is not often that I run across an account of someone who has been doing Irish research "out in the field so to speak." I am probably not going to Ireland next week (Big Grin), but I did think there was a lot of information in this letter that is helpful to those of us who are trying to search from a distance. The information specifically concerns research in County Tipperary (someone wrote into the Genire list and said that it was too bad we didn't have information like this from every county). However, maybe this will inspire other list members who have gone to Ireland to write in and tell about their experiences. I do know that there are several Fianna members besides me whose ancestors come from County Tipperary. "Heloo, All! I just wanted to check in and let you all know how the search went while I was in the homeland. Spent a day or so at the National Library searching for ancestors from Moycarkey Catholic parish in County Tipperary. Much thanks for the advice from all who contributed! The unfortunate thing about the NL is that they have rather limited resources in terms of people who can help you. There was a single nun (her name escapes me, but under the circumstances, she was a complete saint) who ran the desk in the reading room and she could tell you where certain things were if you knew what to ask for, but didn't have the time to get into any specifics on individual searches. Some of the other helpers were a bit snippy... The most unfortunate outcome of that day was the realization that all the records for the Diocese of Cashel and Emly in Co. Tipperary (which constitutes about 2/3 of the county, in a big swath across the middle) are unavailable for viewing at the NL. Darn. And there seemed to be some doubt as to exactly who had which records. Bru Boru? Northern Tipperary (in Nenagh)? Turns out the records are spread out between these two and the Tipperary Heritage Unit in Tipperary town proper, but mostly in the latter. There is a listing of just who has what at the NL, according to parish. The Bru Boru mostly only has cemetary inscriptions for the region (as they were read off the stones themselves, so it's a bit sketchy and anything but complete). The search of the Tithe Applotments and Griffiths Evaluation records were somewhat helpful, but I hadn't quite done my homework on what the differences were between the civil and Catholic parishes. There is Moycarkey Catholic parish, which is large, and Moycarkey civil parish, which is small and contained within the catholic parish along with Fertians, Galbooly, and a couple others. A word to the wise - make sure you know whether the parish you're searching in is the religious or civil. The Tithe Applotments and Griffiths Evaluation records are according to civil parishes and the townlands therein. By far the most valuable experience I had was at the county library in Thurles. If anyone wants my advice, skip the NL altogether and just go there. The woman who works in the genealogical room there (her name is Mary) was so incredibly helpful I'm thinking about submitting her name for canonization. She helped me get my arms around the civil/catholic thing and also how to really make effective use of the Tithe Applotments and Griffiths and their respective indexes. Furthermore, they really didn't have anything at the NL that wasn't at the county Library. What they did have that wasn't at the NL was originals for the 1840 Ordinance Survey Maps (the microfilms at the NL are terrible) plus the originals for the Rate Books (similar to Griffiths in content, but covers years from 1846 through 1899) for the area. Mary also helped me figure out exactly who had the proper Church records for the area. My last stop was at the Tipperary Heritage Unit in Tipperary. They are affiliated with a separate organization that the Family Heritage group under which the Northern Tipperary and Bru Boru fall, so if you were thinking that all the information for Co. Tipperary was in the latter two, as their Internet sites would have you believe, you'd better give them a call. The people there were nice enough but very young, so I didn't exactly have confidence that they knew entirely what they were doing, though they did their best. Unfortunately, the farther back you get in the records, the more scanty they get, and there are significant gaps. If you want my advice, when having them do a search, make sure that they send you a Xerox copy of the entire set of listings for a particular surname rather than just information on a single first name. In some cases, there is information on townland of origin which can help you make associations with other possible family members you may not have been aware of. The cost to have them do a search was 15 pounds for two parishes to 45 pounds for all 46 parishes in the diocese. Few parishes have records going back farther than 1795, so you may find your genealogical search coming to an abrupt end after this experience. I hope this little travelogue helps some people who are doing searches in County Tipperary. There are probably some other things that I found out but failed to mention, so if you want to e-mail me, please do so. Good Hunting! Tim Gorman"

Hello all, I had a query from someone that saw the Fianna website, I was wondering if anyone may be able to help answer his question? From what I remember, Fianna was a name that was once used by an ancient Irish army. Does anyone else have any info. on the Fianna name or Fianna Boy Scouts in Limerick? Thanks, Janet From: EDSCOUT@aol.com To: JCowan@prodigy.net I was wondering about the word Fianna. I have a newspaper article that states that my greatuncle was Limerick's first member of the Fianna Boy Scouts. I contacted the Boy Scouts in Ireland, and they said that it had nothing to do with them. Do you, or any of your subscribers know anything of this organization?. Thank you for your time. edscout@aol.com

Any takers!! :) At 11:41 AM 10/12/97 -0700, you wrote: > > >If caugheyj still exists, he or she should use the listowner's page >to reclaim this list and they should drop me a note. > >If the listowner does not reclaim the list within 72 hours, I'll put >out a call for volunteers for a new listowner. Thanks, B. > > >-- >Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ >P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com > > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

At 10:34 PM 10/9/97 -0400, Anne Boyes wrote: >>>> SOME CORRECTIONS BELOW! <excerpt> Hello all! This is a formal(?) invitation to all who are interested in pursuing the upcoming Genealogy course at VU and playing around with us in FIANNA... </excerpt><<<<<<<< NOTE CORRECTION: channel 33, not 32! >>>> <excerpt> (1) Go to http://www.vu.org/channel33/today/ Find the channel page, go to channel 33, sign up! Read about study groups and then go sign up for Guide-EUROPE...that way we'll all be in the one big group and Fianna will be the Irish leg of that. If anyone prefers to work on links, we'll see if Janet will accept more (Janet, are you listening???) and if so you can work on the links through our group! (2) Go to the Hideaway on Sunday or early Monday and I'll have posted the date and time of the first meeting. </excerpt><<<<<<<< CORRECTION: go to http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/nugroup.html ALL the directions for this thing are on that page! >>>> <excerpt> (3) Get your mIRC or PIRCH or Mircle in good shape and join us per the directions you'll find! (4) we'll try to get some organization started, talk about picking a Rigfennid (leader) and get an idea of what we want to do as a group and what fians we'll need.... The first online class will be on Thursday, 6pm PACIFIC time on the same server as the #Fian..(3) above... on #channel33 (that's channel 33) Let's do it folks! It's fun! It's informative! Marthe has new vistas for the old 325 folks! ;) And we have a chat place on the school server where we can all meet for now :) Peace. Encouragement. PLEADING!!!! Anne </excerpt> Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Chirho, Saw the posting on Genire. Great idea! Actually I was going to do that myself, but you have saved me the time. Gail

Hello all! This is a formal(?) invitation to all who are interested in pursuing the upcoming Genealogy course at VU and playing around with us in FIANNA... (1) Go to http://www.vu.org Find the channel page, go to channel 32, sign up! Read about study groups and then go sign up for GEUROPE...that way we'll all be in the one big group and Fianna will be the Irish leg of that. If anyone prefers to work on links, we'll see if Janet will accept more (Janet, are you listening???) and if so you can work on the links through our group! (2) Go to the Hideaway on Sunday or early Monday and I'll have posted the date and time of the first meeting. (3) Get your mIRC or PIRCH or Mircle in good shape and join us per the directions you'll find! (4) we'll try to get some organization started, pick a Rigfennid (leader) and get an idea of what we want to do as a group and what fians we'll need.... The first online class will be on Thursday, 6pm PACIFIC time on the same server as the #Fian..(3) above... on #channel33 (that's channel 33) Let's do it folks! It's fun! It's informative! Marthe has new vistas for the old 325 folks! ;) Maybe we can get our FirstRIG back! And we have a chat place on the school server where we can all meet for now :) Peace. Encouragement. PLEADING!!!! Anne Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

I saw this posted to a news group and thought it might be of interest. xfhc-dir will continue successful live IRC chat series tonight 8pm CST on #genealogy-help on Dalnet. Bring questions. Log of session on land records and directions for accessing IRC Chat at http://www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/4656 and http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/6820

Hope everyone doesn't feel that they are being deluged by ship lists. Several ppl are now sending emigrant lists to Genire and I am just mailing them on as they come in. oppossum Ship Globe, from Ireland, June 5, 1716 •Charles O'Hara, shoemaker •James Hines, shoemaker •John Ennis, currier •Elizabeth Doyel, cook •Paatrick Fargison, mariner The ships Patience and Judith from London, June 30, 1716 John Fitzgerald Patrick Ogilvie John Brandon September 22, 1736, Captain John Carrell, from Ireland (no ship name) •George Lucas, wife and children •Honora Cinae, wife of Dinish Cinae •James and Peter Cinae, and their children •Elizabeth Lame •Sally Lamb •Betty Lamb •Nancy Lamb •Nellie Lamb •Beckee Lamb •Agnes Procter •Mary Burton •Thomas Howard •Dennie Kenny •William Steward The Catherine, from Ireland, June 24, 1737 •Bryan Karrick •Catherine Driscoll •Mr. Thomas Gunter, merchant, gave bond on their behalf August 19, 1744, from Cape Breton (no ship name) James Conner Sarah Kathary Thomas Bryan Elizabeth Campbell Charles White Mary Hammond Mary Roberts Eliza Fitzgerlad Mary White Sarah Mchun Sarah Agin Bridget McNamarra Mary Benson Eliza Dunster Margaret Anderson Jenny Richardson Fanny Brady Mary Derham Katharine Morris 1762 (no ship name) •John Poor from Ireland, bookkeeper •John Casey •William Shannon Edward Shaahay •Patrick Power •Richard Power •Thomas Power •David Dunn •Patrick Phealan •Michael Nevil •Thomas Gleason •John Clary •Patrick Poor •Patrick Dumphrey •Patrick Felleter •John Roadh •Edward Morrosey •Richard Fleming •Morris Dunlay •Catherine Corkran •Christopher Collins •John Dunlay •Thomas Casey •Patrick Power •Hugh McCoy •Lydia Ryan •Patrick Shallow •John McKean •Michael Colman •Thomas Murphey •John Malony •John Dillon •William Murphey •James Carrol •Mrs. Malone •Lewis Fitch Gerrald •Catharine Casey •Daniel Kenney •John Delaney •William Dougharty •William McGrath •John Tobing •Henry Clarey •Ann Moore •Philip Stapleton •Thomas Cain •Peter Doyle •James Nowling •James Fitzpatrick •-----Gilroy •Michael Fling •Michael McCarney •Ralph O'Donal •Michael Keeting •Margaret Quark •John Doghny •Christopher Barret •Jane Kelly •Patrick Drohan •Patrick Killey •William Kelley •Simon Hannahan •James Kennedy • Francis Murphy •Richard Welsh •Mr. O'Neal, a trader •Patrick White •James Roach. 1764, no ship given •John Mackodonel •Charles Riney •Richard Gallispie •John Wehalden •Catherine Riney •John Kennedy •William Larken •Cornelius Obruin •James Coghran •Dr. Kannady & family •John Kelly •Patrick McClaran •Catherine O'Donely •William Logan •Patrick McCowan •Onner Soloven •William Gillmore •Patrick Laply •John Carton •James Shannon •John Burk •Michael Claire •John Timmins The Hannah, September 11 1764, from Cork •Francis Rien •James Furlog •John Reding •James Coffe •James Steward •Richard Bourke •James BRien •Benjamin Davison •Michael Clary •Mrs. Dorin •John Callahan (1) •Timothy Collens •Morgan Mullons •John Callahan (2) •John Bryen •Mary Connell •John Branfield •James Ryon •John Costolo •Patrick Harden •Capt.----Cavenough The brig Freemason, arrived December 27, 1764, from Cork •Richard Burk •John Brown •Mary Dresden •John Roberts •Edward Moor •John Lyon •Matthew McNamara •John Moor •Andrew Barrett •David Howe •Martin Dunavan •Catherine Lynch •Malaky Field •William Dunavan •John Cleary •Mary Dunavan 1765, no ship given •John Kavanaugh •Peter Ryan •John Shannahan •John Murphy •John Herrington •Patrick Herrin •Patrick Dallaney •Patick Conner •Thomas Keoho •Thomas Ring •Valentine Conner •Thomas Linch •Michael McNamara •Dennis Fioan •Moses Roach •John McGrah •Patrick Dowling •William Cummins •Cornelius Mahan •Peter Doyle •John Larey •Luke Shannon •John Fling •John Bryan •John Sullivan and wife •James Ryan •John Burk •Michale Flanegin •Daniel Moore •John Cunningham •Philip Ryan •Richard Kelley •Thomas Road •John Ryan •Jeremiah Daley •Cornelius Nophen •Thomas Glody •James Flood •Matthew Kelly •Edmond Magrath •John Logen •John Flannigan •John Cuff •Michael McNemaro •John Callahan •Hugh Keen •------McCarty •William Doyde •Thomas Fitzgerlad •Con. Casey •John Pendergrass •Patrick Kerre •Timothy Cotterill •Michael Carney •Elizabeth Walll •John Gilroy •Morris Garey •John McDaniel •William Hannon •Jeremiah Folley •Robert Carre •Patrick Dutting •George Fitzpatrick •Thomas Collins •Patrick Nuff •John McGee •John McCannon •Jeremiah Haley •Charles Dorren •Christopher Kennedy •William Carey •Richard Luby •John Duggin •Thomas Keefe •David Sullivan •Juda Duggin •Edmond Barret •Joseph Quin •John Kelley •John Ryan •Elizabeth Murphy •Davs Welsh 1768 •Patrick Conner •~~~~~~~ Glynn •John Kilbany •John Mallone •John Finley •Patrick Dupee •Patrick Ham •Mrs. McKennedy •William McCartey •Mr. Larey •William Lawler •Daniel McClester •John Neace •Peter GRiffen •Edward Griffen •Sallie McCartie •Flix McMean •Juda McMean •Mary O'Bryan •Patrick Toben •John Terrey •John Tracy •Nicholas Whealan •Michael Conner •Michael Coleman •Daniel Connel •Edmund Maugher •Thomas Coady •Micahel Collins •Patrick Hannan •William Buckley •Walter Flanen •James Magee •Edward McCarty •Edward Welch •Edawrd Linch •James Hickey •Terence McCarty •John Burke •Dan Hogan •John Hogan •John Madock •John Dunfee •James Mahane •James Rowland •John Dehany •John Dalton •John Murphy 1779 •Mrs. Swiney •Mrs. Henesey •John Gallikan •Joseph Carell •Hannah Dwier •Patrick Briant Other Arrivals, 1766 •Henry Higgins •Edward Carey •Edward Griffin •John Mahan •Richard Quirk •Thomas Roach •Luke McGray •Thomas Barrey •Willaim Comings •Thomas Whaland •Samuel White •William Finley •Ann Callehan and two children •Norris Dayley •James Casey •John Murrey •James Cochran •John Barry •Mrs. Dunn •Margaret Driskel •Matthew McNamara •Robert Morisey •James Burn •Thomas Kenady •Darby Rion •John Hanbury •Nathaniel Linch •Luke Dulin •Morris Murphy •Philipp Dunelty •Patrick Brinnen •Edward Whalin •John Hade •John McDonough •John Fling •James Lase •Jesse Connelly •Thomas Power •William Murphy •Elizabeth Cotter •Michael Carrell 1767 •Mary Roche •~~~~~~~~ McConnel •Elizabeth Corbet •Daniel McBrine •Willaim Fitchgeral •Elizabeth McKew •John Duffy •Patrick Caroline •Owen Caroline •Lawrence Merren •Carrick McRoss •James Fitchpatrick •Timothy Ward •William Lawren •Henry Gibbons •Patrick McMasters •Daneil Morrison •Michael Grant •Charles Hart •William Kirby •Timothy Flaharty •Dan. McHaney •Jeremiah Kane •William McKeen •Edward McDaniel •John Savage •Richard Maloney •Thomas McDonough •Micheal Darey •James Kelly The Brig, Ann and Margaret, from Ireland, October 14 1767 •Eleanor Murphy •Eleanor McSweney •Francis Hodrett •Mary Machoon •Mary Howard •John Kinney •Elizabeth Brien •Ann Collins •Judith Pop •Edward Dammarell •Mary Callahane •Mary Conun •Elearnor Moloney •Timothy Mulcaby •Goerge Prickard •Samuel Prickard •Thomas Prickard •Paul Prickard •Dinish McSweney •James Conner •Darby Conner •Mary Wilkinson •Eleanor Stokes •Mary Ambrose •Mary O'Brien •John Jackson •John Lyndsay •John Murphy •Margaret Fleming •Elizabeth Wilkerson •Homer Coveney •Edward France •Ann Hill •Mary Stoaks •Willaim Sweney •James Fitzgerald •William Hoban •John Baker •John Furch •Isaac Stoakes •Richard Terutch •Joseph King •Edmond Shanohan •M. Byrn •Dinish Rien •William Buck •Philip O'Donel Arrivals in 1766 Patrick Mahon William Higgings Peter Hogan John McCarter Michael Bryan Patrick "Naster" John Canby Timorthy Conner Patrick Furnas Charles Comerin Peter Larey Edward Casey John Brinnon Michael Neal Darby Morrison James Doyle James Toole Martin McLartin Henry McKennery Thomas Gibbens Edward Butler Patrick Campbell Patrick Dowling John Killey William Boyde Edward Whealand John Parlin Patrick Poor The brig William from Ireland, which arrived September 29, 1766 •Mr. Barry, schoolmaster •William Scott, schoolmaster and wife •Timothy Dorson, schoolmaster and wife •William Moor •Danield Boyeles and wife •Michael Poor •John Feald •Jeremiah Nuhan •Timothy Shea •William Gorman •Jeremiah Reardon •Joohn Kealahorn •John Jenkins •Samuel Allen •John Gray •Samuel Dickson •Miles Cauly •Patrick Roach •Jeremiah Murphy •George Fitzgarald •William Hurley •Mary Butler •Eloner Nowlan •David Stockman •Andrew Chabrito •Bryan Marran •James Meaglan and wife •Thomas Duane •John Thumb •Sameuel Henry •Grace Gore •Pres. Pullen •John Mealon •Jany Quales •Jacob Magar •Robert Magan •Robert Main •Andrew Beard •William More •James Wiley, wife and two sisters •Thomas Miller, wife and son •Mary Wiley •Betty Wiley •Jane Wiley •John Fairservice •John Miller •Betty Ramaige •Jane Shanan •Jane Patterson •Michael Keanan

List of passengers of the ship SUSAN of and for New York, sworn at Dublin 28 March 1804. Patrick Glenning, 22, fair labourer Monaterevan, Kildare Mary Glenning, 24, fair spinster Monasterevan, Kildare Michael Cawlin, 23, dark labourer Nober, Meath Mary Kenny, 36, dark married in Dublin Edward Donagan, 21, fair labourer Bala Braughin, Kings Co. Eliza Fullard, 26, fair spinster Edenderry, Kings Co. Frances Fullard, 11, fair spinster Edenderry, Kings Co. Jane Fullard, 10, fair spinster Edenderry, Kings Co. Nicholas Caffrey, 21, light farmer Monasterevan, Kildare Patrick Wogan, 20, fair gentleman Dublin Good Rhind, 23, light gentleman Dublin Keeron Carrill, 23, light servant Dublin Thomas Durm, 28, dark labourer Bala Braughan, Kings Co. Michael Taylor, 38, sandy labourer Dublin Thomas Matland, 21, light labourer Dunlavin, Wicklow Ann Matland, 56, dark married Dunlavin, Wicklow James Barry, 23, fair gentleman Dublin Edward McDermott, 30, dark gentleman Dublin Robert Dyas, 19, light gentleman Kings Court, Cavan James Gore, 26, sandy gentleman Dublin James Yates, 34, sandy gentleman Newry Joseph Dempsey, 18, fair servant Upper Wood, Queens Co. Judith Campbell, 25, brown married Knockmack, Meath Janes Hyres, 30, brown married Drogheds Mark Kelly, 30, brown farmer Monasterevan, Kildare Mary Kelly, 30, brown married Monasterevan, Kildare John Foran, 35, sandy labourer Monasterevan, Kildare Simon Donnolly, 22, dark labourer Naas Luke Toole, 28, fair clerk Donnybrook, Dublin William Christian, 25, fair labourer Dublin Nicholas Hobart, 30, dark labourer Mullingar, Meath Michael Murthe, 25, labourer Lurganlyseen, South