Thats not an URL it is a maillist address, and if you want to sub to it you have to use the addy: GENIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com with subscribe in the body of the msg and NOTHING else. On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, L.D.Swift wrote: > That URL is Genire-L@rootsweb.com -jeanne Fight Spam! Join CAUCE (Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) http://www.cauce.org/ Tell your Congresscritters how Spam mailings hurt you. Help protect genuine Internet commerce: Outlaw UCE Spamming!

That URL is Genire-L@rootsweb.com

Try the British Travel Authority BTA They have the AABTA which is their auto assoc. We drove England and Scotland in 95 and used their book "Touring Britain and Ireland" The book is somewhat expensive about $60.00, but well worth it. It was our bible. It had very detailed maps with every road, except cart paths. It also had many points of interest and day trips. If you just want a map go to Barnes and Noble Book Store or any good size book store for that matter. I would think you would want to be prepared to do some driving in less than favorable conditions. Have fun, wish I were going with you. Joe B. Williams Boyd, Clark-Scotland; Buckley, Grace, Dooley-Ireland; Williams, Garner, Means, McClain, Davies-USA; Cecil-USA & England; joekate@nol.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/i/l/Joe-B-Williams/ ---------- > From: NormaNisco@aol.com > To: fianna-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: maps > Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 5:09 PM > > What would be my best resource for current map of Ireland. Roads and small > town. I am in USA and our AAA who usually is a wonderful map source only > handles USA maps. I will be driving in Ireland in November. > > NormaNisco@aol.com >

What would be my best resource for current map of Ireland. Roads and small town. I am in USA and our AAA who usually is a wonderful map source only handles USA maps. I will be driving in Ireland in November. NormaNisco@aol.com

Hi Norma, When I was in Ireland last summer, I used the Michelin 1/400000 map #405. It worked fine for me. Most good bookstores should have them. Enjoy your trip. Watch out for the "Black spots." Mike Dellger

Hello everyone, I've got great news! For all of the Fianna members that have helped make our public website fantastic by submitting great links... our hard work has been recognized! We have been awarded the "Genealogy is My Hobby's Excellence in Genealogy Home Page Award" and our site will be listed sometime on the "Best Genealogy Links on the WWW." Pasted below is a copy of the award letter. To check out the award, see our homepage at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404 Sincerely, Janet Fianna Webmaster Subject: Re: The Fianna:Irish Ancestry & History Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:15:31, -0500 From: YXXT08A@prodigy.com ( PAM LEE MIDDLETON) To: JCowan@prodigy.net Hi Janet, In addition to adding your link I am awarding you my "Excellence in Genealogy" Award! I have reviewed your page and have found it an excellent resource for Online Genealogy. Fabulous site! Keep up the good Work!!!! And thanks for a wonderful contribution to the Online Genealogical commmunity. Pam Middleton-Lee in "Sunny" Palm Springs, Ca *Genealogy is My Hobby!!* http://home.earthlink.net/~middleton/ *Best Genealogy Links on The WWW* http://home.earthlink.net/~middleton/topten.html *County Coordinator, Coshocton Co. OHGenWeb http://www.cu.soltec.com/~photo/coshocton.html *My Genealogical Pursuits-Profile Courtesy of my ISP "Earthlink Network"! http://www.earthlink.net/blink/blink13/member_pro.html *ICQ Pager 2715598 I chat GENEALOGY at Dalnet port 6667 #genealogy-help or Rootsweb irc.rootsweb.com port 6667 #genealogy "It is a Revered thing To see an ancient Castle not in decay, But how much more it is To behold an ancient family Which has stood against the waves And weathers of time." -Francis Bacon

Janet, this might help for questions on the Fianna. I have even been asked if the site was political (due I guess from the confusion with the Fianna Fail political party in Ireland)! You might put it on the first page in a prominent position :-) My understanding is you can use it if you keep the disclaimer intact (it's at the end of the piece). *peace* jeanne BTW You are really doing a GREAT job with the website :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Warrior Bards The legendary Fianna of Ireland were a band of mighty noble warriors. Entrance was governed by strict tests and codes of honour. Yet the Fianna also had to be knowledgeable of culture, and more specifically they had to be poets. Their leader, Fionn mac Cumhal, got his poetical and Bardic training from an old Bard Finnegas on the banks of the river Boyne (note he was close to water, the element which rules the intuition and emotions). Copyright DALRIADA CELTIC HERITAGE SOCIETY, ISLE OF ARRAN. The above has been reproduced solely for entertainment purposes and not profit. _________________________________________________________________

-jeanne Irish Surnames _________________________________________________________________ The use of hereditary surnames in Ireland began around the tenth century. Up to that time people were identified by single names e.g. Cormac, Diarmaid, or by the use of nicknames. With the increase in population it was necessary to add other names to avoid confusion. The oldest surnames were those incorporating "O" or it's earliest form "Ui" meaning "grandson" and "Mac" meaning "son", together with the personal name of the grandfather or father. Many surnames were derived from the occupation of the father, for example:- "Ward" from "Mac an Bhaird" meaning "son of the bard" "Cleary" from "O'Cleirigh" meaning "grandson of the clerk" "McGowan" from "Mac an Ghabhann" meaning "son of the blacksmith" "Hickey" from "O'hIceadha" meaning "grandson of the healer". The influence of the church can be seen in the adoption of names incorporating "giolla" or "maol" meaning "follower" or "devotee". Thus "Gilmartin or Martin" from "Mac Giolla Mhartain" means "son of a follower of St. Martin" and "Mulrennan" from "O'Maoilbhreanainn" descendant of a follower of St. Brendan". Some other surnames had a descriptive origin for example:- "Doyle" from "O'Dubhghaill" means "black haired foreigner". As well as the many Gaelic names a large number of Irish family names owe their origins to the many invasions and plantations of Ireland down the centuries. Some names which originated from the Viking (Norwegian & Danish) invaders are, "McLoughlin" (MacLochlainn) and "McIvor" (Maiomhair). Surnames of Norman origin are numerous and widespread throughout the country and most of them were created in the aftermath of the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1171. Norman-France was the origin for most of these. Names beginning with "Fitz" from the French "fils" meaning "son" are the most obvious Norman names. Other examples are, Browne, Burke, Costello, Cusack, Dillon, Keating, Power, Roche and Walsh. The Plantation of Ulster in 1611 attracted a large number of Scottish settlers and their names e.g. Ross, Kerr, Gordon, Graham, Morrison and Stewart are common in many areas of Ulster today. The Cromwellian Settlement of the 1650's also brought a large influx of British names to Ireland. Many old Irish names were anglicised and the prefixes "O" and "Mac" were dropped. English officials and landlords translated and mistranslated names to their nearest sounding English equivalent. Examples of translations are:- "MacGabhann", (son of the smith) becoming "Smith" in some areas and "McGowan" in others and "MacGiolla Easpaigh", (son of the follower of the bishop) becoming either "Gillespie" or "Bishop". _________________________________________________________________ Copyright CavanNet 1996

-jeanne Fionn and the Burning of Tara ____________________________________________________ During the time Conn C�adchathach -- Conn of the Hundred Battles -- was king of Tara in the second century of our era, Aill�n, son of Midna, a man of the Sidhe from Sidhe Fionnachaidh in Sliabh Fuad in the North, used to destroy Tara every O�che Shamhna. O�che Shamhna -- which is called Halloween in English -- is one of the two great divisions of the year in the old Celtic calendar. The other one is O�che Bhe�ltaine, the eve of the First of May. On these two nights, the gateways between this world and the Otherworld are open. One of these gateways is on the Hill of Tara, which was the religious and political capital of Ireland from the earliest times until a Christian saint cursed it in the sixth century. The gateway is a Sidhe mound called a passage tomb by the archaeologists, because it was used for burial and it has a passage leading to a chamber in the middle of the mound. It was built over 5000 years ago. If you go there at sunrise on the 8th of November -- L� Shamhna or the First of November in the old Celtic calendar -- you will see the sun shine straight through the passage into the chamber. That shows that this gateway is open at this time of year. No one lived permanently on the hill of Tara, but the king and his warriors would gather there every O�che Shamhna to protect this world against attacks from the Otherworld. The people of the Sidhe could come out of the Otherworld through any of these Sidhe mounds, and it was through the Sidhe mound on the Hill of Tara that Aill�n would come every O�che Shamhna, because he had a grudge against the kings of Tara. Unfortunately, the story of that grudge has been lost to us. And so it was especially important that Conn C�adchathach and his warriors should be at Tara to defend this world from Aill�n. But when Aill�n came, he would play the magic sleep music of the Sidhe on his flute, and when everyone was asleep, he would let a flame out of his mouth and burn all the buildings, which were made of wood. And not even Gol mac Morna, the leader of the elite troop of hand-picked heroes called the Fianna, was able to prevent Aill�n from burning Tara every O�che Shamhna. About this time, Fionn mac Cumhail, son of the former leader of the Fianna who was killed in a faction fight, reached manhood and arrived at Tara to claim the leadership of the Fianna. Fionn knew that Conn C�adchathach and Gol and Gol's clan of Fir Bolgs from Connacht, the Clan Morna, had been on the winning side of the fight against Fionn's clan of Milesians from Leinster and Munster, the Clan Baiscne. He also knew that Gol himself had killed Fionn's father, Cumhail. It is a sign of Fionn's courage that, at the age of 17, he walked into the king's palace at Tara, surrounded by his enemies, and said to Conn: "I am Fionn, son of Cumhail. Since my father was leader of the Fianna, it is right that I should be leader now that I am of age." Now, Conn knew that if he didn't make Fionn the leader of the Fianna, Fionn's faction, the Clan Baiscne, would revolt, and there would be civil war among the Fianna. But if he took the leadership away from Gol, the Morna faction would revolt. Conn did a wise thing. "Fionn," he said, "not even the great Gol mac Morna can prevent Aill�n of Sidhe Fionnachaidh from burning Tara every O�che Shamhna. The man who solves this problem for us deserves to be leader of the Fianna. The position is yours, if you stop the burning of Tara." The king had spoken, and not even Gol mac Morna could argue with Conn's decision. Fionn's father had left him the Crane Bag, a bag of treasures he got from Manann�n mac Lir made from the skin of Aoife, who had been shape-changed into a crane and died in that form. Among these treasures were a cap of silence and a poisonous spear. So blood-thirsty was this spear that the head of it had to be wrapped in seven layers of wet leather and kept in a bucket of water, and it was chained to a wall so it couldn't escape and kill everyone within reach. The spear's name was Birgha, and it was Aill�n's own spear. How Cumhail came by it is probably in that story that's been lost to us, but we can suspect that it provided at least part of the motive for Aill�n's destruction of Tara. On the following O�che Shamhna, Fionn took the cap and the spear to Tara and waited for Aill�n. When Aill�n appeared and played his Sidhe music, Fionn pulled the cap of silence down over his ears. As soon as the others were put to sleep by the music, Aill�n let fire out of his mouth. Fionn leapt up with the poisonous spear Birgha and went after Aill�n. Aill�n ran towards Sidhe Fionnachaidh, which is about 60 miles from Tara, with Fionn hot on his heels. Just as Aill�n was entering his Sidhe -- and so was between this world and the Otherworld -- Fionn threw the spear and killed him. That's how Fionn mac Cumhail saved Tara from burning and became leader of the Fianna. ____________________________________________________

There is now online a list of Roman Catholic parishes, listed county county at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/parishes.htm It was taken from a book and when compared to "Irish Records" it seems to incomplete although some smaller parishes are included as secondary names to others that are listed. Just in case it helps anyone. Presbyterian and Church of Ireland will be added later this weekend. Diana :) Ireland Gen Web host http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/ -- *********************************************** What good is magic if it can't save a unicorn? ***********************************************

Hi, I am linked to another group, GenIre, I think. At any rate, whenever I get e-maill from them, their address is listed as NOT-A-REAL-ADDRESS@bl-30.rootsweb.com. When I try to send some reply or whatever to them, my mail keeps coming back stating that this is not a valid address. Is there anyone here who also belongs to this group and can advise me as to how one sends mail to this list? Someone on the list was asking about the quality of Heritage Centres in doing research. The following is my reply I had research done by Mayo South Heritage Centre a couple years ago. It cost me about $100., but I feel it was money very well spent. The folks there, especially Mr. Gerry Delaney, did a wonderful job in starting me on the road to Raheen Barr, the home of my Gallagher ancestors. I would suggest writing to them initially to see what kind of preliminary material you may need to submit. This usually gives them an idea about how feasible the search may be. If the Sligo Centre operates the same way, they will respond to tell you what you need to know regarding their services/research. At first I was skeptical, but when they were able to give me a bit of information which I had known previously but had not shared with them, I knew they were legit. Good luck, and if you need any other particulars, feel free to contact me. Mike Dellger

A few days ago, Norma wrote: > Tim > > I am going to Ireland in November and have ancesters in Tipperary. I > dont > know the parish. I know his name and his parents name and have two > possible > dates of immigration. One from the census and one from a > naturalization > paper. > > Who do you recommend that I write to for a search before I go. Do you > have > the email or snail mail address. Email would be better because I only > have > one month. > > Thanks for any help. > > NormaNisco@aol.com > > ______________________________ > [Gorman, Tim] > > Sorry I didn't get back to you on this. I've been out of town. > > The places to go for church records if you've got family members in > Co. Tipperary, but don't know exactly where, are as follows (these are > groups that I've worked with personally): > > #1Tipperary Heritage Unit, Marian Hall, St. Michael's Street, > Tipperary Towne. Contact Anne Moloney. Telephone +353 62 52725 > All records for Diocese of Cashel and Emly (center of Co. > Tipperary). > > #2 Cashel (Co. Tipperary):Bru Boru Project > Bohereenglas, Cashel, Co. Tipperary. > Contact Una O'Murchu, telephone +353 62 61552 > Tombstone inscriptions for Cashel & Emly and Waterford/Lismore > diocese (southern Tipperary), church records for Waterford/Lismore. > > #3 Nenagh, Co. Tipperary: District Heritage Society, The > Governor's House, Nenagh, Co. Tipperary. > Contact Doanl and Nancy Murphy, telephone +353 67 32633 > Diocese of Killaloe (northern Tipperary) church records plus some > from Cashel & Emly. > > If commissioning a search from somewhere other than Ireland, expect a > possible wait. #2 has a 3 month backlog. #3 has little or no backlog, > but you will still be hard pressed to get anything back from them > within a month's time. My recommendation would be to do as much work > here as possible here (through the LDS, family, etc.) and then go to > these groups in person when you get to Ireland. They will usually do a > search for you in a couple of hours (#1) or a couple days (#2) if they > know you are in town for only a short while. > > The next best place to try out while in Ireland is the county Library > in Thurles. They have a better collection of materials than you'll > find at the National Library, and they're very helpful. See Mary. > She's an angel. > > Some groups that I haven't worked with, but you might try out: > > Roscrea, Co. Tipperary: Roscrea Heritage Centre, Damer House, > Roscrea, Co. Tipperary. Contact: Willie Hayes, Administrator. > Telephone +353 505 21850 > > Thurles, Co. Tipperary: The Ursuline Convent in Thurles is > indexing parish records. > Contact Toma Noone, telephone +353 54 21561 > > Hope this helps you out. > > Tim G.

What is Genire? Thanks. Bridget. -----Original Message----- From: FIANNA-D-request@rootsweb.com <FIANNA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: FIANNA-D@rootsweb.com <FIANNA-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 11, 1997 11:27 AM Subject: FIANNA-D Digest V97 #89

Sorry it took me so long to reply to the question of what the Fianna was..... The following was taken from: http://www.electricscotland.com/dalriada/myths/mythol/index.html A great site! Try it! -jeanne ************************************************************************ Celtic Mythology The Fianna of Erin A couple of the main characteristics of the Ossianic cycle of the legends are romance and idealism. The legends of Finn MacCumhal and his band of fighting men have these qualities displayed in abundance. In my opinion, this legend provides a tremendous source of inspiration for the warrior. Let us begin with the definition of 'Fian'. The most common being foot soldier. Indeed, this is their distinguishing feature, they almost always fought on foot. Especially when compared to the Ulster cycle which is known very much for its charioteering, for instance. The Fianna's main function was to uphold order within Ireland in the form basically of a police force. It was a very honourable institution and considered essential to the welfare of the community at that time. From Samhain to Bealtainne they were quartered among the people, whilst in the summer half of the year they engaged in hunting to support themselves. Their method of cooking their catches is well known to primitive peoples. A hole was dug into the ground, inside of which red hot stones were placed. On top of this was placed venison wrapped in sedge. Then all was covered over and in time the meat was done to a turn. In both seasons they were expected to police the country. Their task is now outlined. What kind of man would the Fianna take into their ranks? Several requirements were deemed necessary. You must be versed in the twelve books of poetry, be a man of culture and pass the following initiation tests: At the start of the initiation test the man had to stand in a pit, dug out to knee depth for him to stand in. His defensive weapons were a shield and a hazel rod. These were used to deflect the spears cast by nine men from a distance of nine ridges. These spears were cast simultaneously at the prospective warrior and if he failed to deflect these weapons then he was rejected. The second test consisted of a chase through the forest, pursued by armed men. The candidate was to avoid being caught or harmed in any way by the armed men. Indeed, if he had a lock of his braided hair loosened or if he had broken a branch on the forest floor in his hasty flight he was rejected. After all that his hands could not be seen to be shaking at all at the end or he would have failed. Iron discipline required indeed. On top of this the man was obliged to jump over a branch his own head height and stoop below a branch his own knee height and also be able to run at full speed whilst taking a thorn from his foot at the same time, without breaking his stride. All these tasks seem nigh impossible to achieve yet they illustrate perfectly the idealistic nature of this group of legends. Let us have a closer look at the leader of the band of perfect warriors. Not the strongest, physically, of them all, but Finn was the truest, wisest, kindest and most trusted of them. Generous to men and gentle to women, his wisdom was such that he would never see anyone in trouble or in poverty in his holding. He was leader of his people, a poet and magician, the pinnacle of achievement for the Celtic warrior. But what are the origins of such a great man, demi-god? Read further... The epic begins with the leaders of two rival clans disputing who had the right to leadership of the Fianna of Eire. One was called Clan Morna, the other Clan Baiscne whose leader was Finn's father, Cumhal. The two clans clashed in a bitter conflict at Cruachan (near Dublin) whereupon the Clan Baiscne were defeated and scattered throughout Ireland. Finn's father was killed in the battle, but Muirne, his mother, soon gave birth to their son, the hero himself. However, concerned for her son's safety, she could not keep him by her. In fear of the Clan Morna she gave him into the care of two druid women who took him to the wood of Slieve Bladhma to nurse him secretly. There he was given excellent training in the ways of the warrior and manhood. A couple of the exercises deemed to be constructive by the women were to throw him into a lake to teach him how to swim and to put him in a closed off field with some hares. They told him to always keep ahead of the hares no matter what until the day was over. Harsh training. However, this turned him into a fine young man, fair of appearance, supple of limb and skilled to boot. So, after spending some time with a troupe of poets being taught the way of words, he was put out on his own and went to seek his living in the service of a king. Eventually, he came to the king who had taken his mother for his wife and fine service he gave. All was well until one day he was playing chess with the king and won seven games in a row. It was then that the king questioned this fine young man's origins and discovered that he was the son of Cumhal. This displeased him greatly and Finn, who was then called Deimne to conceal his lineage, was asked to leave. He then decided to go into Connaught to seek out his father's brother, Crimall. He was going on his way when a magical meeting took place. He came across a woman crying tears of blood. Finn asked her why she cried so and the woman answered that her only son had just been killed by a champion. Finn vowed that after seeing such a sight that he would follow the champion and slay him. Such sorrow he had not seen before. So he killed the man and it was the same man who had given his father his first wound in the battle that was to be his last. The champion had on his person a treasure bag made of craneskin that had previously belonged to Finn's father. The bag was full of magical items that could only be used at full tide. The original owners of the bag were Manannan MacLir, god of the sea, and Lugh of the Long Hand, god of the sun. It was a precious find, marking another stage in the boy's oncoming adulthood. Finn found Crimall, now an old man, living in a lonely place with some of the other old men of the Fianna. They exchanged stories and conversation and it was here that Finn left the craneskin bag. Finn then went on to learn wisdom and poetry from a man named Finnegas who lived by the river Boyne. It is by the side of water that poets gain inspiration. The border between land and sea, neither one world or the other. It is where the goddess of poetry may be sought. For seven years Finnegas had watched for the white, red speckled salmon of knowledge. For in eating this fish a man may have all knowledge. At last the fish did arrive and Finnegas, rejoicing, gave the fish to Finn to roast but told him not to eat any of it. However, alas, during the cooking of the salmon, Finn noticed a blister appearing on its skin and put his thumb onto it to make it disappear. Needless to say, Finn's thumb got badly burnt and he thrust it into his mouth and onto his wisdom tooth. The boy then gave Finnegas the fish and after looking at it for a while he said to Finn: "What is your name, boy?" "It is Deimne". Finn replied. "No, it is not", said Finnegas. "It is Finn that is your name and the prophesy that someone named Finn will gain the knowledge from the salmon has been fulfilled." The boy then confessed to having inadvertently tasted the fish. From that time on Finn had the knowledge from the nuts of the nine hazels that grew beneath the sea. Otherworld knowledge. This is how the boy then fulfilled his destiny and became the man who would be leader of the Fianna of Eire. In one of the most colourful Celtic epics imaginable. Where the Gods themselves made their presence felt and the veil between the worlds was thin. The tales within these legends go deeper into the functions of the Fianna with its many characters and adventures. [� Dalriada Celtic Heritage Trust] [Author: S. Soyka DALRIADA MAGAZINE 1993] _________________________________________________________________ Dalriada Celtic Heritage Trust, Isle of Arran

I am searching for relatives of Edmund Fitzgerald m Ann Hannan in County Cork and immigrated to USA in 1884. Also searching for Thomas Cantwell m Mary Ann Hickey, also in Ireland and immigrated to USA. They may have also been from Cork or a Surrounding county. Both families settled in Fall River, Massachusetts. Dan Fitzgerald <Dfitzsr@worldnet.att.net>

Anyone work on/knowing about McAvoy ancestors? My group was found in lower South Carolina. Gene Jarrell, Jamestown, NC

Susan: I saw your note on the Fianna mailing list.I have no Hennessy info but my people come from County Clare, too. It's good to know who else is researching there. DO you know which townland(s), parishes, etc? Mine are from the parishes of Quin and Kilfintinan(later Cratloe) 1820s to 1850s. East Clare. They migrated to Australia, not USA. Some Co Clare parish records are on microfilm in the Mormon family history centres. 1901 census seesm to be a good source of info. Good luck Maria in Hobart Tasmania marmarbrandl@trump.net.au Researching GARVEY FLANNERY COLLINS CARMODY GLEESON BERMINGHAM DONNELLAN in County Clare

I would like to make contact with a reliable reasonably priced researcher in Southern Tipperary. I am trying to find my gggm's family who were RAWLEY 's and I have paid three times to the Heritage center with very little result. They were catholics and left to come to Australia in 1855. I believe the parents of th family were MAURICE RAWLEY and ELLEN TOBIN. When Ellen emigrated with the children on the FLORA McDonald in 1855 she was 55 yrs old and the children ranged from 25 to 4 mos. Thanks a lot Audrey Tasmania

Hello everyone, I wanted to share an interesting find. I just put a link on the Fianna website on the Irish Surnames and Irish Descendants' homepages section called "Scot-Irish Surnames." It is much more than that after I checked it out. It has individual listings and links for Irish clans (as well as individual listings and links for other clans, family associations and surnames: Scottish, French, Chinese, etc.). I found several surnames listed that had relevant genealogical data for me. Hopefully, others will find the same. I highly recommend trying out that link, it may prove interesting to some. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/pages.html Sincerely, Janet JCowan@prodigy.net

Hello Gail & others on the Fianna-L mailing list, > Thanks for the interesting peek into some of the interesting questions > handled by our capable web master. (Big Grin) Do you get a lot of > questions like this? To answer your question regarding interesting queries that I receive either by email or on the Fianna website's guestbook, here's a sample of something that I've received -this is from the guestbook & I never replied back to his query... Any takers that would like to answer this one??? :0) > Name: Michael John Brown > Website: > Referred by: Just Surfed On In! > From: Glasgow > Time: 1997-07-24 16:18:00 > Comments: Is there any truth un the rumour that none of the Fianna were Irish, they were Pictish, Feni (Scots), > Belgae, Britons and Damonii and countless other racial group that arrived in Ireland,between 500 BC and 150 AD, > and were forced to serve the Milesian High King and ultimately betrayed and murdered by the aforementioned > Irishmen once the Romans had been forced from Ireland. I would be interested to hear your opinions on this > interpretation of the historical, archeological and cultural facts. There have been a lot of people that write in the guestbook regarding the surnames they are searching; therefore, people may want to view the guestbook on occasion as they may see someone that is researching a name or place they are also searching for. I updated the site this evening. I added a clock to each section of the site, because if any of you are like me when I'm doing research... it's easy to lose track of time. If anyone should come across any links that no longer work, or see an Irish ancestry or history site that would be good for the website, please feel free to email that info. to me. I will be updating the site once a month. As we have many researchers outside the USA, I would like to gradually add more links to sites that will help aid those that are researching outside the USA (and those in the USA as well) in doing online research of Irish ancestors. For those of you that have never seen the Fianna Website, the URL is: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404 Sincerely, Janet JCowan@prodigy.net