At 07:55 AM 11/6/97 -0500, another list wrote: > > What if Dr. Suess Wrote Computer Tech Manuals? > >If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, >And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, >And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, >Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report. > >If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, >And the double-clicking icons put your window in the trash, >And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash, >Then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash. > >If the label on your cable on the gable at your house, >Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, >But your packets want to tunnel to another protocol, >That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall. > >And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss, >So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse, >Then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang, >'Cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang. > >When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk, >And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary RISC, >Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM, >Quickly turn off your computer and be sure to tell your mom! Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

Hello everyone, Here is a site that has a long list of ships that left Ireland. It includes passenger names as well. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/shiplist.htm Sincerely, Janet JCowan@prodigy.net

Does anyone have an email addy for the Allen County Library. The email link at the site doesn't look like a valid address to me. Gail

Bob, I know the feeling. I attribute all this to recently acquiring a pair of progressive bifocals. Several months ago I wrote a letter to someone explaining how to open an attached file, and I referred to the icon as an @ symbol. DH looked at my letter and said, "Good grief Gail that is not an @, that is a paper clip!" I am one of those ppl who didn't need glasses when I was younger so I have found it a trifle difficult to become accustomed to them. I really like them now though except for using a microfilm reader. About a month ago my Hamblen Co.TN film arrived and I rushed over to my neightbor and genealogical buddy's to read it. Pretty soon my neck was killing me. I couldn't figure out what was wrong until my friend told me it was my bifocals. I have decided that I need one of those readers that they have at the FHC or my genealogy society that casts the picture down in front of you!! However, I am afraid that the price might be prohibitive, and it might just take up more room in the office than we could spare! (Big Grin) We have just gotten done reorganizing the office, and Bruce brought me in and showed me the fiche reader (previously lying on its side on a chair) sitting in its own little space. Furthermore I am no longer sitting here hemmed in by two printers and a scanner and I can actually move my elbows. Maybe I should just count my blessings. BBFN Gail (possum)

Hi Gail: I apologize. My only excuse is that my glasses must be dirty. I didn't see the clip symbol. I used a different excuse last night during Fian chat (I said then that I must be going blind). I will be running out of excuses pretty soon. Bob

Dear Bob, The forwarded msg was sent as an attached file. I don't know how Netscape or even separate email programs work except for Eudora Light which I once used. Anyway if you are an Internet Explorer user you can tell if there is an attached file since a little paper clip icon will appear next to your message. Click on the msg twice. And then click on the little envelope icon on the bottom of the msg. Then Voila! you can read your message. Gail O'Possum

I am on the list, but complete msg was not there. That's what I'm talking about... ---------- > From: jeanne <jeanne@korrnet.org> > To: FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Beware of Misuse of Info] > Date: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 2:02 PM > > ????? FIANNA-L got this post...Is that not who it was forwarded to? > What are you talking about? > > On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Robert Stevenson wrote: > > Hi: > > Your fwd. msg. didn't get forwarded > > bob > > ---------- > > > From: AM Roe <am.roe@sk.sympatico.ca> > > > To: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [Fwd: Beware of Misuse of Info] > > > Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 5:41 PM > > -jeanne > Fight Spam! Join CAUCE (Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) > http://www.cauce.org/ Tell your Congresscritters how Spam mailings > hurt you. Help protect genuine Internet commerce: Outlaw UCE Spamming! >

????? FIANNA-L got this post...Is that not who it was forwarded to? What are you talking about? On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Robert Stevenson wrote: > Hi: > Your fwd. msg. didn't get forwarded > bob > ---------- > > From: AM Roe <am.roe@sk.sympatico.ca> > > To: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Fwd: Beware of Misuse of Info] > > Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 5:41 PM -jeanne Fight Spam! Join CAUCE (Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) http://www.cauce.org/ Tell your Congresscritters how Spam mailings hurt you. Help protect genuine Internet commerce: Outlaw UCE Spamming!

Hi: Your fwd. msg. didn't get forwarded bob ---------- > From: AM Roe <am.roe@sk.sympatico.ca> > To: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Fwd: Beware of Misuse of Info] > Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 5:41 PM >

The Kelley/Kelly Research Homepage is now part of The Surname Web. This page has been accepted by The Surname Web (kind of like the USGenWeb and such only this is devoted to one name studies) to represent and link Kelley/Kelly Researchers. You may post a query on line, access Irish Links, order Kelley Heritage Quest (for Kelley/Kelly Researchers) or the 1790 Census Index for the US listing all the Kelley/Kelly Families or get general up to date information on your Kelley/Kelly Research. Now accepting new queries for the next issue of Kelley Heritage Quest. Visit.. <http://members.aol.com/famlyfndr/kelley.htm> Jolene Kelly Pillars Kelley/Kelly Research Homepage USGenWeb ~ Montmorency County, MI <http://members.aol.com/famlyfndr/index.htm> IRGenWeb~ County Cork, Ireland <http://members.aol.com/celticgen/index.htm> County Wexford, Ireland <http://members.aol.com/celticgen/wex.htm> ONGenWeb ~ Durham County, Ontario <http://members.aol.com/durham6768/durham.htm> Ontario County <http://members.aol.com/famlyfndr/ontario.htm>

Lesson number 8 for Ireland Genealogy is now posted at http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208_8.htm More later! Be certain to check out the updated: Ireland Surname List at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/iresurs.htm Ireland Passenger Lists - by century and destination at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/shiplist.htm -- Diana Hanson :) Accredited Genealogist Ireland Gen Web Host http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5341/ Host of the World Gen Web Project http://www.ideaschool.org/worldgenweb/index.html Muscatine, Decatur, Tama, and Blackhawk County Iowa Gen Web Host ********************************************** What good is magic if it can't save a unicorn? ********************************************** http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208.htm Free OnLine Genealogy Class for Ireland Research

Hello everyone, The weekly updates have been added to the following website. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html">Ireland Genealogy</A> http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html Updates always head the list in each category. Bye, Catherine O'Dea Good Luck with your research

researching my irish roots in county cavan. looking for info on my g-g-grandfather, bernard francis martin. b. 1825, somewhere in county cavan, possibly around bawnboy. nothing known about family in ireland, except that bernard may have had at least one brother, named james. both left for america in 1849 aboard ship isaac newton from liverpool to philadelphia. any help greatly appreciated. thanks mike martin

Remember that this is a public list serve available to both eager genealogists and to unscrupulous individuals. Many banks, pension accounts, social security, children's educational funds, etc. use your mother's maiden name as a security check. Those of you who are posting 20th century names and dates here, or on family web pages are putting yourselves and your relatives at financial risk. You are giving the scam artists and computer whizzes easy access to whatever you have, be it a little or a lot. The Internet provides access to wonderful information in faraway places, new relatives, and helpful researchers. I can now post queries in all those counties where my ancestors lived as they zigzagged across the globe ... I could never afford to join every genealogical society where an ancestor lived. Unfortunately the pedophiles, con artists and other unsavory members of our species also find this medium a great place to do business. ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== To Subscribe to TheShipsList send a message to TheShipsList-L-request@rootsweb.com Leave Subject Line Blank * Put Only: SUBSCRIBE in body of message

Hi Fennidi, I was doing my VU homework so I thought I would post this "hotlist" to Fianna too. Irish immigrant ship lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/passlist/5800ship.htm International Irish Genealogical Society Ship List http://www.genealogy.org/~ajmorris/ireland/ireemg.htm A.J. Morris's Ship Lists General: http://midas.ac.uk/genuki/big/#Emigration Genuki Emigration and Immigration Page. (Ship List plus a lot of other great information)! http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/pass.html Genealogy on the Internet (Chris Gaunt) Ship List Page. Lots of great links to information about searching for ship passengers using both online and offline resources as well as passenger lists. Be sure to check out the rest of this site if you are new to the web. It is incredible!! http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/pass.html Addie's Genealogy Homepage Emigration and Ship List Page Last but certainly not least Cynd's Ships, Passenger Lists & Immigration Page: http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/ships.htm Gail (oppossum)

---------- From: Kathy Welch Heidel Sent: Sunday, October 05, 1997 9:07 AM To: Bruce Roorda Cc: Post to Fianna List Subject: Re: Beginning Online Gen class I have just subscribed to Fianna is there a way I might be able to participate in the Beginners Online Genealogy Class? Please let me know. Thank you, Kathy Welch Heidel -- Pieces of Thyme http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/genealogy/pieces.html The Potawatomi Tribe Of Oklahoma http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/nativeamer/index.html Kansas in the Civil War http://www.tri.net/civilwar/index.html Mississippi Co., MO http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/missouri/index.html Fall River Co., SD http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/fallriver/index.html Washington Co., KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/washingt/index.html Shawnee Co., KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/shawnee/index.html Dickinson Co., KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/dickinso/index.html Pulaski Co., MO http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/pulaski/index.html Welch, Wofford, Causey, McCrea, Walker, Fair, Holloway, Hiner, Devlin

Hi, I have been researching the family of David and Mary Bradley for a while now. They left Donegal and came to America in 1867. They lived in a place called Carrigans Village in Donegal. I am trying to find out if anyone knows where to write for a birth Certificate or record in Donegal. The problem may be that when they left Ireland,there village was considered in Northern Ireland and not the Republic of Ireland. It wasn't untill a later border change that Carrigans village became part of the Republic of Ireland. Anyone have any ideas on where to go from here? Thanks. Kay B.

At 08:21 PM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >God called Bill Clinton, Boris Yeltsin, and Bill Gates to come to a >conference. And, when they were all there, God said: "I've got good >news and I've got bad news. The bad news is that I'm really fed up with >the way things are on Earth, so I've decided to destroy it. > >The good news is that I'm giving you one week's notice." > >So, Bill Clinton called into session the joint houses of Congress and >announced: "I've got good news and I've got bad news The good news is >that there is a God. The bad news is that He's going to destroy the Earth >in one week." > >Boris Yeltsin called into session the Communist Party and announced: >"I've got bad news and worse news. The bad news is that there is a God >after all. The worse news is that He's going to destroy the Earth in a >week." > >Bill Gates, meanwhile, called all of his programmers, marketing experts, >and administrators together and announced: "I've got good news and I've >got better news. The good news is that God thinks I'm one of the 3 most >important men on Earth. The better news is that we don't have to fix >Windows 95." > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com <center>http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/gen/gene.html Linking to Lives: An indexed collection of links for doing genealogy, beginner to experienced! http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/irish/irish.html WildIrish Roves: Irish Genealogy, History and Culture, with a little Fun! </center>

This is important and valuable! And if you're concerned about viruses, CIAC is a good place to get info! A lot of their bulletins won't be about your particular platform (computer type), but when the one that is yours comes by, it's a God-send! Directions for getting on their email list (about two bulletins per week over the past six months..) are at bottom of page. Don't be frightend by all the governmentalese...they quite happily send these to anyone who signs on to the list! This references some of the best data about in re: "SPAM"! Since VU students have all been sent to post to newsgroups, we might well be finding someone preparing some spam to send our way... thus the timeliness of this message! ;) peace. chirho >[ For Public Release ] >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > __________________________________________________________ > > The U.S. Department of Energy > Computer Incident Advisory Capability > ___ __ __ _ ___ > / | /_\ / > \___ __|__ / \ \___ > __________________________________________________________ > > INFORMATION BULLETIN > > E-Mail Spamming countermeasures > Detection and prevention of E-Mail spamming > >October 20, 1997 19:00 GMT Number I-005 >______________________________________________________________________________ >PROBLEM: Unsolicited E-Mail. > >PLATFORM: All platforms which accept E-Mail from the Internet > >DAMAGE: Loss of user productivity and reduction of availability of > resources. > >SOLUTION: Follow the guidelines outlined below. > >______________________________________________________________________________ >VULNERABILITY Programs which implement this type of malicious activity >ASSESSMENT: are in widespread use. No legal remedies are available > yet. >______________________________________________________________________________ > > >INTRODUCTION: > >Spam (aka UCE: Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail) is the Internet version of "Junk >E-Mail." It is an attempt to deliver a message, over the Internet, to someone >who would not otherwise choose to receive it. Almost all spam is commercial >advertising. Potential target lists are created by scanning Usenet postings, >stealing Internet mailing lists, or searching the Web for addresses. Such >information is gathered with automated searches to retrieve E-Mail addresses >for spamming. > >The low cost of E-Mail spamming engines offered for sale with millions >of E-Mail addresses, coupled with the fact that the sender does not pay extra >to send E-Mail, has resulted in the current explosive growth of "junk E-Mail." >Currently, unless the spammer offers to sell illegal items, there is no legal >remedy to use to stop E-Mail spammers. > >Congress is currently considering legislation to require the marking of >unsolicited commercial E-Mail (UCE), but that legislation is not yet complete. > > >TERMINOLOGY: > >Mail Delivery Agent (MDA). This refers to the program used by the client to >retrieve E-Mail from a storage location. It is usually referred to as the >"mail client." An example of this is pine or eudora. > >Mail Transfer Agent (MTA). This refers to the program used running on the >server to store and forward E-Mail messages. It is usually referred to as the >"mail server program." An example of this is sendmail or the server part of >exchange. > > >CONFIGURATION AND USAGE GUIDELINES: > >Mail filtering in the MTA or MDA is the only practical solution today and it >is less than perfect. There are three primary information sources used to >filter incoming E-Mail : > > - Header Information > - Mailer Type (a special type of Header information) > - IP Address (domain name). > >Header filtering is performed by scanning the header and/or envelope of a >message, and comparing that information to a list of "filters." If the >"From", "X-Sender", or "Sender" address is in the "filtering" list, the >message is dropped. Filtering by E-Mail envelope and/or header information on >the MDA or MTA is the most effective way of limiting spam on your network. >Filtering on the MTA is accomplished by adding rules to the configuration for >the specific mail system running on the server. The MDA filtering is accomp- >lished through configuration rules in the client uses to read mail. The most >logical location for filtering is your MTA, since it can perform this service >for a larger number of mail accounts and is a central point for administra- >tion. The down side to this is that users need to feedback "SPAM" information >to the E-Mail administrators to be incorporated into an organization-wide >filtering list. This requires continuous maintenance to keep the spamming >filters list up-to-date, since it is built in reaction to spamming activity. >Predetermined "filtering" lists are available in the public domain. Also, if >the spamming filter list is not made with care, valid E-Mail messages may be >discarded along with the spam. > >Mailer filtering uses the specific Header information field: "X-mailer." This >type of filtering enables you to eliminate an entire class of senders -- >those who use suspect Mail Delivery Agents. Some of the more popular MDA's >with spammers are: Pegasus, Floodgate, Extractor, Fusion, MassE-Mail, Quick >Shot, NetMailer, and WorldMerge. Be aware that, as with other Header >filtering, filtering on "X-mailer" always runs the risk of eliminating >legitimate E-Mail from people using these mailers. It is the person and not >the mailer that is the problem. > >Lastly, you can filter traffic from a domain or range of IP addresses. This >is probably the easiest way to limit spam from those addresses associated >with spamming. Again you may also block mail from legitimate users. > > >SOME DO NOTS > >Do NOT spam, mail bomb, or hack spammers. In many cases the site indicated as >the source of the spamming is not the spammers real site, so attacking that >site is not only wrong, but you are actually "spamming" yourself. > >DO NOT Sending "remove" messages to a spammer. It simply validates your >E-Mail address for future spammings. > >Site E-Mail administrators should work closely with their users to make the >list decision about sites, mailers, and senders to be blocked. > >Pointers on the actual implementation of filtering methodologies: > > Filtering mail to your personal account > http://spam.abuse.net/spam/tools/mailblock.html#filters > Blocking spam E-Mail for an entire site > http://spam.abuse.net/spam/tools/mailblock.html > Blocking IP connectivity from spam sites > http://spam.abuse.net/spam/tools/ipblock.html >______________________________________________________________________________ > > >CIAC, the Computer Incident Advisory Capability, is the computer >security incident response team for the U.S. Department of Energy >(DOE) and the emergency backup response team for the National >Institutes of Health (NIH). CIAC is located at the Lawrence Livermore >National Laboratory in Livermore, California. CIAC is also a founding >member of FIRST, the Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams, a >global organization established to foster cooperation and coordination >among computer security teams worldwide. > >CIAC services are available to DOE, DOE contractors, and the NIH. CIAC >can be contacted at: > Voice: +1 510-422-8193 > FAX: +1 510-423-8002 > STU-III: +1 510-423-2604 > E-Mail: ciac@llnl.gov > >For emergencies and off-hour assistance, DOE, DOE contractor sites, >and the NIH may contact CIAC 24-hours a day. During off hours (5PM - >8AM PST), call the CIAC voice number 510-422-8193 and leave a message, >or call 800-759-7243 (800-SKY-PAGE) to send a Sky Page. CIAC has two >Sky Page PIN numbers, the primary PIN number, 8550070, is for the CIAC >duty person, and the secondary PIN number, 8550074 is for the CIAC >Project Leader. > >Previous CIAC notices, anti-virus software, and other information are >available from the CIAC Computer Security Archive. > > World Wide Web: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ > Anonymous FTP: ciac.llnl.gov (198.128.39.53) > Modem access: +1 (510) 423-4753 (28.8K baud) > +1 (510) 423-3331 (28.8K baud) > >CIAC has several self-subscribing mailing lists for electronic >publications: >1. CIAC-BULLETIN for Advisories, highest priority - time critical > information and Bulletins, important computer security information; >2. SPI-ANNOUNCE for official news about Security Profile Inspector > (SPI) software updates, new features, distribution and > availability; >3. SPI-NOTES, for discussion of problems and solutions regarding the > use of SPI products. > >Our mailing lists are managed by a public domain software package >called Majordomo, which ignores E-Mail header subject lines. To >subscribe (add yourself) to one of our mailing lists, send the >following request as the E-Mail message body, substituting >ciac-bulletin, spi-announce OR spi-notes for list-name: > >E-Mail to ciac-listproc@llnl.gov or majordomo@tholia.llnl.gov: > subscribe list-name > e.g., subscribe ciac-bulletin > >You will receive an acknowledgment E-Mail immediately with a confirmation >that you will need to mail back to the addresses above, as per the >instructions in the E-Mail. This is a partial protection to make sure >you are really the one who asked to be signed up for the list in question. > >If you include the word 'help' in the body of an E-Mail to the above address, >it will also send back an information file on how to subscribe/unsubscribe, >get past issues of CIAC bulletins via E-Mail, etc. > >PLEASE NOTE: Many users outside of the DOE, ESnet, and NIH computing >communities receive CIAC bulletins. If you are not part of these >communities, please contact your agency's response team to report >incidents. Your agency's team will coordinate with CIAC. The Forum of >Incident Response and Security Teams (FIRST) is a world-wide >organization. A list of FIRST member organizations and their >constituencies can be obtained via WWW at http://www.first.org/. > >This document was prepared as an account of work sponsored by an >agency of the United States Government. 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