This is the kind of joy it was all about! Thanks to EVERYONE who helped it was a very good day, and the folks who "worked" the day appeared to enjoy it as well :) Peace. chirho At 01:07 PM 12/7/97 -0800, you wrote: >Dear anne, Huge thanks and kudos to you and the whole gang on the >Irc-a-thon. They had lots of patience and spoon fed me to get registered >and on 33. >Fortunately, the fellow I had come out to rescue my hard drive was able to >open the mirc folder and get it installed. > >A special thanks to you for all the support and encouragement and >suggestions while I was floundering! > >Give everyone on the channel last night a big hug for me. Jean3 aka Driftwood > > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

Hello everyone, For your information, there is now a site for Irish-born persons who are searching for their relatives in Ireland. Stop by sometime and perhaps you will find a missing link to your family. http://members.aol.com/Irishadopt/Postings.html bye for now, Catherine O'Dea http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html

Hello everyone, the new children's site is up and running at http://members.aol.com/thatched/ArtCards.html I will be adding more thatched cottages in a few weeks. The one that is up is a free .jpg for anyone who needs a graphic for their website. Thanks for visiting, Catherine O'Dea htpp://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html

Reposting these names in the hope that new subscribers may be able to help: HUGHES, ARMSTRONG, WALL, FITZPATRICK (Newark, New Jersey, USA, 1862, is as far as I can get) Mike Stratton elizstrattonint@juno.com

I applaud your efforts to try and get a commemorative stamp as described below. If you want to read the history of the attempts to get a fellow Irishman a stamp of his own only to be rebuffed for almost 5 years by the Postmaster General, go the Audie L. Murphy web site at: www.sagelink.net/audiemurphy Letters describing these efforts can be found at www.sagelink.net/audiemurphy/letters.htm Suffice it to say it is scandalous. It is so bad that the Postmaster General has stopped answering inquiries to him as to why there has been no Audie Murphy stamp or to petitions for the issuing of one. He has simply ignored them. This web site is loaded with names and addresses and how-to hints on sending petitions for a stamp. You can even add your name to the almost 17,000 people who have signed petitions to get this stamp issued (to no effect to date, I might add). Audie Murphy would have been 75 in 1999 and that's when they want this stamp issued. Petitions have even been sent to West Point for the cadets to sign. Anyway, this might be a good site to check out to get ideas on how to proceed to try and get a stamp issued. It would also allow those Irish who are proud of one of their own, to sign the petition themselves if you believe that Audie Murphy deserves a stamp. Remember, under the current "reign" of this postmaster general, we've had Bugs Bunny on a stamp, and Elvis (drug abuser), and Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Jimmie Hendricks, and Billy Holladay (all of whom died as the direct result of drug overdoses). This seems to say a lot for the priorities of this postmaster. Mike Stratton elizstrattonint@juno.com On Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:50:51 -0500 (EST) resource@seidata.com writes: >This made more sense than Mickey Mouse Stamps > ><---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> >From: Sperra869@aol.com >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:48:49 -0500 (EST) >To: SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Famine Irish Commemorative Stamp > >FYI: Hunger Commemorative Committee Ancient Order of Hibernians in >America urging fellow Irish Americans to write the US Postal Service and >Congress to urge commemorative stamp honoring Famine Irish who immigrated to US. >Among aims: Identify with suffering people today here and abroad. "As >descendants of Famine Irish we are just three generations removed form starvation >and destitution." For more information: James Gallagher at 860-739-8216

Well hello! Now that we're digesting our Thanksgiving turkeys and the last crumbs of pie have disappeared, it's time for a real treat! Diane Hanson has been "lurking" in the Fianna Study Group this quarter, and we've enjoyed knowing she's there. She has been very busy with her work on the IRELAND GenWeb and the WorldGenWeb, as well as teaching online courses in beginning, English, Irish and Scottish genealogy at the IDEASCHOOL. Now she is "Paying her dues" with us by agreeing to present at the next meeting of Fianna! TOPIC: Irish Research (what else ;) TIME: Monday December 8, 1997 6pm PST PLACE: irc.iigs.org 6667 #Fian PARTY to follow! Just no pictures or sounds, please, may post your names you're searching and pass out virtual text goodies, however :) So dust off your IRC and come on along! Hope to see everyone there! peace. chirho .Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

<---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:41:34 -0800 To: SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com From: Velda Welton <wv001@csufresno.edu> Subject: TV Program for Irish >From Eastman's Genealogy Letter (a great source of infromation) - The Irish in America: Long Journey Home An historic new film will have its world premiere on PBS in the United States soon. "The Irish in America: Long Journey Home" is billed as an epic six-hour television and video event from Academy Award winning filmmaker Thomas Lennon in association with WGBH Television in Boston. This film chronicles the role the Irish have played in shaping America. It makes its world premiere on PBS over three nights: January 26-28, 1998. The film reportedly spans the 100-year journey from the potato famine to the White House, tracing the fascinating struggles and successes of the millions of immigrants who left their beloved Ireland and arrived on the shores of America. The film includes music from some of today's biggest Irish talents, including Elvis Costello, Sinead O'Connor, Van Morrison, The Chieftains with Paddy Moloney (who also serves as the film's executive music producer) and more. Quoting from the press release: "More than two years in the making, the film weaves stories of families, workers, churches, athletes, entertainers, and many more into a compelling portrait of Irish achievement. Its detailed historic tapestry is painted through powerful Irish music and authentic folk rhythms, rare black-and-white photos and film footage, drawings, and interviews with Irish- Americans who provide the film's narrative voices. Spanning six hours, the PBS special (airing 1/26-28) and Deluxe Collector's Video Set (available 1/27) is packed with dramatic stories and images that will have significance for all Americans, including the 40 million of Irish descent, and every American whose ancestors were immigrants to this country."

This made more sense than Mickey Mouse Stamps <---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> From: Sperra869@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:48:49 -0500 (EST) To: SULLIVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Famine Irish Commemorative Stamp FYI: Hunger Commemorative Committee Ancient Order of Hibernians in America urging fellow Irish Americans to write the US Postal Service and Congress to urge commemorative stamp honoring Famine Irish who immigrated to US. Among aims: Identify with suffering people today here and abroad. "As descendants of Famine Irish we are just three generations removed form starvation and destitution." For more information: James Gallagher at 860-739-8216

Hello everyone, The following site is up and running. Thatched cottage Art-Coloring cards are now available for children. http://members.aol.com/Thatched/ColoringCards.html Bye for now, Catherine O'Dea http://members.aol.com/Odea97/IRELANDGENEALOGY.html

Ya all just work me so hard! :) http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208_10.htm -- Diana Hanson :) Accredited Genealogist Ireland Gen Web Host/IrelandGenweb-L Host of the World Gen Web Project/WorldGenWeb-L Muscatine, Decatur, Tama, and Blackhawk County Iowa Gen Web Host ********************************************** What good is magic if it can't save a unicorn? ********************************************** http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208.htm Free OnLine Genealogy Class for Ireland Research ==== IrelandGenWeb Mailing List ==== TO UNSUB FROM LIST - send to: IrelandGenWeb-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com TO UNSUB FROM DIGEST - send to: IrelandGenWeb-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Leave Subject Line Blank * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message

Hi all! Folks are asking how to add their surnames. check out http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/findex.html note: the "a" is gone... :) peace. chirho Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

At 08:45 PM 11/28/97 -0500, another list wrote: > Microsoft's New TV Dinner > >First remove the plastic cover. By doing so you agree to accept and honor >Microsoft rights to all TV dinners. You may not give anyone else a bite of >your dinner (which would constitute an infringement of Microsoft's rights). >You may, however, let others smell and look at your dinner and are encouraged to tell them how> good it is. > >If you have a PC microwave oven, insert the dinner into the oven. Set the >oven using these keystrokes: \mstv.dinn.//08.5min@@50%heat// Then enter: >ms//start.cook_dindin/yummy\|/yum~yum:-)gohot#cookme. If you have a Mac >oven,insert the dinner and press start. The oven will set itself and cook >the dinner. > >If you have a Unix oven, insert the dinner, enter the ingredients of the >dinner (found on the package label), the weight of the dinner, and the >desired level of cooking and press start. The oven will calculate the time >and heat and cook the diner exactly to your specification. > >Be forewarned that Microsoft dinners may crash, in which case your oven must be restarted. This is a simple procedure. Remove the dinner from the >oven and enter ms.nodamn.good/tryagain\again/again.crap. This process may >have to be repeated. Try unplugging the microwave and then doing a cold >reboot. If this doesn't work, contact your hardware vendor. > >Many users have reported that the dinner tray is far too big, larger than >the dinner itself, having many useless compartments, most of which are >empty. These are for future menu items. If the tray is too large to fit in >your oven you will need to upgrade your equipment. > >Dinners are only available from registered outlets, and only the chicken >variety is currently produced. If you want another variety, call >MicrosoftHelp and they will explain that you really don't want another >variety. Microsoft Chicken is all you really need. > >Microsoft has disclosed plans to discontinue all smaller versions of >their chicken dinners. Future releases will only be in the larger family >size. Excess chicken may be stored for future use, but must be saved only >in Microsoft approved packaging. > >Microsoft promises a dessert with every dinner after '98. However, that >version has yet to be released. Users have permission to get thrilled in >advance. > >Microsoft dinners may be incompatible with other dinners in the freezer, >causing your freezer to self-defrost. This is a feature, not a bug. Your >freezer probably should have been defrosted anyway. Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

The photos page has been radically revised and will move to the public side soon! And browse around some! Do you know about JCowan's award? We tell you about it, check the Private Front Page. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3336/fianna/findex.html Have a very happy Thanksgiving :) peace. chirho .Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

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My, my, my. MS certainly is busy these days! ;) At 05:52 AM 11/25/97 -0500, another list wrote: >November 12, 1997 > > God Acquired By Bill Gates... > > Microsoft Corporation today announced its intent to >purchase, copyright, and upgrade God. > > The new product is to be named "Microsoft God," and will >be available to consumers sometime in late 1998. > > "Too many people feel separated from God in today's >world," said Dave McCavaugh, director of Microsoft's new Religions >division. "Microsoft God will make our Lord more accessible, and will >add an easy, intuitive user interface to Him, making Him not only easier >to find, but easier to communicate with." > > The new Microsoft Religions line will be expanded to >include a multitude of add-on products to Microsoft God, including: > > Microsoft Crusades: This conversion product will bring all >worshipper accounts and prayer files over from previous versions of God, >or from competing products like Buddha or Allah. > > Microsoft God for the World Wide Web: This product ties >Microsoft God with Microsoft Internet Information Server, making our >Lord accessible from the World Wide Web using a standard Web browser >interface. It introduces several new Web technologies, including >Dynamic Salvation and Active Prayer Pages (APP). Donations for the poor >can be donated via a Secure Alms Server. > > Microsoft Prayers: Using a Windows 95-based interface, >this product will allow worshippers to construct effective prayers in a >minimum of time. A Secure Prayer Channel technology will guarantee >delivery of the prayer to Microsoft God servers, and Prayer >Wizards enable users to construct new types of prayers with a minimum >learning curve. > > Microsoft Savior: This product will allow worshippers to >transfer their sins to its internal Vice Database. After a preset >interval, the product will erase itself from the user's system >and establish a clear line of secure communications to the user's >Microsoft God server. > > Additionally, Microsoft is expected to announce a line of >complimentary products for the new Religions line, which will enhance >the functionality of the Microsoft God server product by providing a >customized user interface. These interfaces will be based on >popular religious sects, allowing worshippers to interact with the new >God product in much the same way as the previous version. > > This line is expected to include Microsoft Christianity, >Microsoft Catholicism, Microsoft Judaism (incompatible with Microsoft >Savior), etc. >-- Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

Dear Fianna: I received an e-mail from: RobertF864@aol.com about doing Irish research and I am cheeky enough to post it here for any comments you care to make. Bob Fleitz wrote: > Wondered if I might ask some advice. My mother's grandparents were Thomas > and Mary Garvey. According to US census came to Ohio in 1860 from Ireland. > That's all we know. Death certificates don't mention birthplaces, parents, > anything. Any advice on where to start? Did most Garveys come from County > Clare? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Well...First, I am no expert. And I won't pretend Irish research is going to be easy. How determined are you? I started from a similar point. By the way you can't do most of this online. You have to be prepared to go to books, and libraries and write letters. Anyway, then I looked at kids' birth certificates, and found "Co Clare". This was confirmed from shipping lists. Since I had this much info I did not need to do what others have had to do. Look at phone books, 1901 census index, Griffith Valuation index and so on to find out in which counties the Garvey families lived. This is called a distribution study. Once you have a county, then you need to find a townland, parish etc. Once you know the county you can either go straight to a heritage centre and pay a lot of money for them to do the work. This site tells you this and more http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html Or you can do it yourself. Sites like Cyndi How's on the internet http:www.oz.net/~cyndihow/ireland.htm or the Uni of Iowa's course at: http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208.htm will tell you how. You need to be prepared that it will be slow, but you will learn a lot - and must - along the way because research in Ireland is very different. If you are new to genealogy in general you might want to do a more general course as at the Virtual University: http://www.vu.org/cgi-bin/classroom.pl?33 At this site you might want to download the syllabus, because this term is almost done, but they will be asking for people to sign up soon. All these sites are free - at the moment. And you should join mailing lists like GENIRE-L, and IRELAND-L, which you have probably done already. I am not sure where you saw my address. Anyway, there you are. If you do all this (I've been doing it six months) then you will get small but gratifying results. I now know my people come from the parishes of Quin and Cratloe in County Clare, and I know the townlands they were occupying back to 1820, but I'm stuck there. That's my challenge, but when I look back I think I have come a long way. Good luck. Thanks for the question. As a matter of fact I am just finishing a project for my VU course on precisely that question. So keep an eye on that site because they are very practical. Maria in Hobart Tasmania Australia marmarbrandl@trump.net.au Researching GARVEY FLANNERY COLLINS CARMODY GLEESON BERMINGHAM DONNELLAN in County Clare

What time and where? I actually remembered and have some free time! -- Diana Hanson :) Accredited Genealogist Ireland Gen Web Host Host of the World Gen Web Project Muscatine, Decatur, Tama, and Blackhawk County Iowa Gen Web Host ********************************************** What good is magic if it can't save a unicorn? ********************************************** http://www.ideaschool.org/courses/general/gen208.htm Free OnLine Genealogy Class for Ireland Research

The Hideaway (private) looked kinda bare after we opened some pages, so I finished up a few things I had in the editor and there are some new pages for your purusal! Plus lots of additions to current pages :) The "yellow" page has a new background, but is still chock full of info, including some new stuff on Spam (Best way..) and Virus hoaxes... http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/find.html Have fun folks! peace. chirho Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

Hello, all! And hello, Diana! Over forty have voted, all to open the page. SO...... Get ready to revise all your bookmarks :) ! Go to http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/index.html for the new PUBLIC Hideaway! SURNAMES are at http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/surname.html We still have some things which are not for the open web, due to copyrights, privacy, etc. And don't we deserve a wee place ALL our own! For the PRIVATE Hideaway, add an "f" in front of index - thusly http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/fianna/findex.html There have been many changes and revisions, in the process, check it out! Ane please PLEASE think about contributing some interesting or fun material! peace. chirho At 10:26 PM 11/20/97 -0500, Anne Boyes wrote: > >Dear Fennidi: Do you want to share our surname page on the open web? We >have a very generous offer here, but the page is yours, I don't want to >answer for you. Please send me an email with a YES or a NO... I will take >the emails that I receive in the next 3 days (Friday, Sat, Sun) and take >the count from that. peace. chirho > > > >At 07:34 AM 11/20/97 -0600, Diane Hanson wrote: >>Good morning Anne! >> >>Would you like me to link your surname page also to the surname page for >>the Ireland Gen Web? That way if people make it to my page and don't >>find what they're looking for, they can go to yours also, and >>vice-versa. >> >>Let me know! We need all the exposure we can get and each site has >>valuable information! :) >>-- >>Diana Hanson :) >>Accredited Genealogist >>Ireland Gen Web Host >>Host of the World Gen Web Project > >Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com >http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/ > > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/

At 12:12 AM 10/30/97 -0500,another list wrote: >REDMOND, Wash. - Oct. 30, 1997 -- In direct response to accusations >made by the Department of Justice, the Microsoft Corp. announced today >that it will be acquiring the federal government of the United States >of America for an undisclosed sum. > >"It's actually a logical extension of our planned growth", said >Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, "It really is going to be a positive >arrangement for everyone". Microsoft representatives held a briefing >in the oval office of the White House with U.S. President Bill >Clinton, and assured members of the press that changes will be >"minimal". The United States will be managed as a wholly owned >division of Microsoft. An initial public offering is planned for July >of next year, and the federal government is expected to be profitable >by "Q4 1999 at latest", according to Microsoft president Steve Ballmer. > >In a related announcement, Bill Clinton stated that he had "willingly >and enthusiastically" accepted a position as a vice president with >Microsoft, and will continue to manage the United States government, >reporting directly to Bill Gates. When asked how it felt to give up >the mantle of executive authority to Gates, Clinton smiled and >referred to it as "a relief". He went on to say that Gates has a >"proven track record", and that U.S. citizens should offer Gates their >"full support and confidence". Clinton will reportedly be earning >several times the $200,000 annually he has earned as U.S. president, >in his new role at Microsoft. > >Gates dismissed a suggestion that the U.S. Capitol be moved to Redmond >as "silly", though did say that he would make executive decisions for >the U.S. government from his existing office at Microsoft >headquarters. Gates went on to say that the House and Senate would >"of >course" be abolished. "Microsoft isn't a democracy", he observed, "and >look how well we're doing". > >When asked if the rumored attendant acquisition of Canada was >proceeding, Gates said, "We don't deny that discussions are taking >place". Microsoft representatives closed the conference by stating >that United States citizens will be able to expect lower taxes, >increases in government services and discounts on all Microsoft >products. > >About Microsoft. Founded in 1975, Microsoft (NASDAQ "MSFT") is the >worldwide leader in software for personal computers, and democratic >government. The company offers a wide range of products and services >for public, business and personal use, each designed with the mission >of making it easier and more enjoyable for people to take advantage of >the full power of personal computing and free society every day. > >About the United States Founded in 1789, the United States of America >is the most successful nation in the history of the world, and has >been a beacon of democracy and opportunity for over 200 years. >Headquartered in Washington, D.C., the United States is a wholly owned >subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation. > Anne Boyes boyes@gardener.com http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/