Dirk2 This list is yours to post to any way you wish! Cloudy ----- Original Message ----- From: hugh doherty To: Fianna-Mailing List Cc: Daniel Doherty ; Cameron Dougherty Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} From a Charter Member --=======31FB397B======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2D24190A; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi to other Early Members and all others Remember me, "Dirk2", from away back in the Virtual University Courses of 1997 when we started the Irish Special Interest Group that became "FIANNA". A lot of good things have happened since them! I cruise the FIANNA site often to keep in touch. I haven't contributed much of late. I'm always pleased to receive my Annual Greetings from "Cherho" to let me know I am still a "Member". I have recently got on to a cable connection so my Email address has changed. It is now hdoherty@highspeedplus.com My WebSite URL is www.highspeedplus.com/~hdoherty/ I also have a Domain Name: My Email there is dirk@hdoherty.com My WebSite URL there is www.hdoherty.com I would like to do a bit of advertising if I may. :-) The O'DOHARTAIGH (DOHERTY) Clann is holding it's 5th International gathering from July 1 to July 12, 2005. I have been to the last four, the first being in 1985.(every 5 years) They are held in The Innishowen Peninsula of Co. Donegal area and "Derry" City, Co. Londonderry, Ireland. I would like to post this message to that fact and hope it will meet with the approval of the "Rootsweb.com" Mailing List policies? If there are any DOHERTYs or those of related line out there, have a look at my signature. Visit the sites noted and maybe even join the DOHERTY Clann. They have a very large data base of names and information. Search the sites and enjoy. Thanks for any input you may have. Slainte, Hugh. ----------0----------END----------0---------- My Home Page -- www.hdoherty.com Dan Doherty's Clann Website -- www.odochartaigh.org Inishowen Co. Donegal and DOHERTY Genealogy Website -- http://homepage.eircom.net/~inishowen Next O"Dochartaigh Clann Gathering. July 1 to 12, 2005. ===================================================== Help the Worlds needy! Click on -- www.freedonation.com Hunger Site, one click a day donates food -- www.thehungersite.com --=======31FB397B======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2D24190A Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.417 / Virus Database: 233 - Release Date: 11/8/2002 --=======31FB397B=======--

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-----Original Message----- From: Ellen Hopman [mailto:Saille333@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:37 AM To: irish-stones@yahoogroups.com; fenechas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Brehon Law] Huge Temple Found under Hill of Tara http://www.online.ie/news/irish_examiner/viewer.adp?article=1880191 Huge temple found under Hill of Tara The Irish Examiner 12 Nov 2002 Evelyn Ring A HUGE temple, once surrounded by about 300 huge posts made from an entire oak forest, has been discovered directly beneath the Hill of Tara in Co Meath. Conor Newman, an archaeology lecturer at NUI Galway, said the discovery at the ancient site made sense of the positioning of other graves and monuments in the area. Mr Newman, who has been working on the Hill of Tara under the State-funded Discovery Programme since 1992, was delighted by the find. "It fills a very important place in the jigsaw because it allows us to make sense of the distribution of other monuments all around it." The Discovery Programme, set up under the auspices of the Heritage Council, carried out a survey of the Hill of Tara between 1992 and 1996 when Mr Newman was director. When Mr Newman moved to Galway he continued to be involved in the project Using sophisticated technology, he and his team of experts mapped what was underground. The work was slow and tedious because it yielded such a huge amount of information. What they uncovered eventually at the crown of the hill was a huge, oval-shaped monument measuring about 170 metres at its widest point. Around it are 300 post holes measuring two metres wide, indicating a massive human effort involved in the construction. "We think it probably dates from 2500 to 2300BC and still had a big physical presence even after the posts were taken out or rotted," Mr Newman said. While the monument is located just below the ground's surface, there are no plans yet to dig it out. "There was a time when excavation was the first step in archaeological research. That's not the case now because it really is the systematic destruction of a monument. When you are dealing with something as important as the Hill of Tara, you don't do something like that lightly." Mr Newman reckons they will be able to learn more about the site from the data before the ground itself is finally excavated. "What we have is the clearest underground image I have ever seen. This one jumps off the page." Mr Newman is concerned about a planned extension of the N3 motorway from Clonee to just north of Kells. One of the sections from Dunshaughlin to Navan runs along the east side of the Hill of Tara. I have absolutely no doubt that they will be destroying dozens of monuments connected to Tara. ************************************************************* Ellen Evert Hopman, author, herbalist, Druid Priestess www.geocities.com/gaias_song/willow.html " Gaine daughter of pure Gumor, nurse of mead-loving Mide, surpassed all women though she was silent; she was learned and a seer and a Druid." The Metrical Dindsenchas To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fenechas-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Thanks Paul, very interesting. Kevin "Paul E. Dowling" <pdowling7@comcast.net> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Hopman [mailto:Saille333@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:37 AM To: irish-stones@yahoogroups.com; fenechas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Brehon Law] Huge Temple Found under Hill of Tara http://www.online.ie/news/irish_examiner/viewer.adp?article=1880191 Huge temple found under Hill of Tara The Irish Examiner 12 Nov 2002 Evelyn Ring A HUGE temple, once surrounded by about 300 huge posts made from an entire oak forest, has been discovered directly beneath the Hill of Tara in Co Meath. Conor Newman, an archaeology lecturer at NUI Galway, said the discovery at the ancient site made sense of the positioning of other graves and monuments in the area. Mr Newman, who has been working on the Hill of Tara under the State-funded Discovery Programme since 1992, was delighted by the find. "It fills a very important place in the jigsaw because it allows us to make sense of the distribution of other monuments all around it." The Discovery Programme, set up under the auspices of the Heritage Council, carried out a survey of the Hill of Tara between 1992 and 1996 when Mr Newman was director. When Mr Newman moved to Galway he continued to be involved in the project Using sophisticated technology, he and his team of experts mapped what was underground. The work was slow and tedious because it yielded such a huge amount of information. What they uncovered eventually at the crown of the hill was a huge, oval-shaped monument measuring about 170 metres at its widest point. Around it are 300 post holes measuring two metres wide, indicating a massive human effort involved in the construction. "We think it probably dates from 2500 to 2300BC and still had a big physical presence even after the posts were taken out or rotted," Mr Newman said. While the monument is located just below the ground's surface, there are no plans yet to dig it out. "There was a time when excavation was the first step in archaeological research. That's not the case now because it really is the systematic destruction of a monument. When you are dealing with something as important as the Hill of Tara, you don't do something like that lightly." Mr Newman reckons they will be able to learn more about the site from the data before the ground itself is finally excavated. "What we have is the clearest underground image I have ever seen. This one jumps off the page." Mr Newman is concerned about a planned extension of the N3 motorway from Clonee to just north of Kells. One of the sections from Dunshaughlin to Navan runs along the east side of the Hill of Tara. I have absolutely no doubt that they will be destroying dozens of monuments connected to Tara. ************************************************************* Ellen Evert Hopman, author, herbalist, Druid Priestess www.geocities.com/gaias_song/willow.html " Gaine daughter of pure Gumor, nurse of mead-loving Mide, surpassed all women though she was silent; she was learned and a seer and a Druid." The Metrical Dindsenchas To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fenechas-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley & videos from Greatest Hits CD

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Trying to find out if we have found the right Conroy in Co.Mayo, Thomas Conroy & Mary Costello, Cong, Mayo, children James & Thomas 1865, Thomas seems to fit, it's the only combo of these 2 names that I have been able to find. Understand they came from Mayo. Thomas married in Brooklyn to Mary Faherty/Flaherty in Feb 1889.Thomas lived on Wallabout st, Mary on Greene av. She came from a large family. One of her brothers keep the name of Faherty, he buried some of the family in Holy Cross in Bklyn, and it gives his address as 207 Moffat st, which I know was right as we visited him there in 1950. Learned that he had either a daughter Eleanor or a step daughter ,Where is she, where is Andrew & his wife buried? They also had a brother named Thomas who was in the Spanish American war and died in 1918, wife was Sadie, children Raymond ,Thomas & Eleanor McMullen, where are they? They lived in Jackson Hgts in 1946 when Sadie died. He worked in the navy yd. Most of the Flaherty/Conroy men worked on the docks in Bklyn. Thomas my g.father was killed there in early 1901. no death certificate due to him drowning ,no body recoved. Because of this my g. mother had to place the children that couldn't work in St Dominic's home, my father being one of them , 4 went in in 1905, 3 returned home, the baby died within 3 mos. of being there. The children went back home in June 1907. Hoping some one sees something in this that they may be able to help me find where Andrew and his wife are buried and where some of their children might be if alive. Thanks to all Ed Conroy

Please forgive the cross posting, but this mail regards all Ireland based lists. It touches on the UK's plan to destroy what is known as "overseas" records. These are vital records, such as BMD's of folks born at sea. Although I don't think I'd be effected by the plan, who knows. The bonehead that I am, I can't recall what site I got the original notice from. My thanx to whoever sent the original. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Davies, Howard [mailto:howard.davies@pro.gov.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:39 AM To: 'Paul E. Dowling' Subject: RE: PRO CONSULTATION DRAFT OPERATIONAL SELECTION POLICY 18 - OVER SEAS BMD Dear Mr Dowling Thank you for your comments on the draft OSP. These will be considered along with other responses to the draft at the close of the consultation period, and I will contact you again then to let you know the result. Howard Davies -----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Dowling [mailto:pdowling7@comcast.net] Sent: 07 November 2002 14:14 To: howard.davies@pro.gov.uk Subject: PRO CONSULTATION DRAFT OPERATIONAL SELECTION POLICY 18 - OVERSEAS BMD Mr. Davies; I strongly urge you not to destroy reconrds as, currently contemplated in this selection policy. Please consider the FFHS offer to receive these records. Thanx, Paul This e-mail message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to The Public Record Office. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return e-mail immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of the Public Record Office are neither given nor endorsed by it.

Hi all, Just in case anyone is interested www.gould.com.au has copies for sale, they are located in South Australia. This is not an advertisement for them although I buy most of my genealogy gear from them. Dennis Newton. Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod WARNOCK" <rwarnock@idx.com.au> To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary > Hi Dennis > > If you are near a LDS Centre they wil have a copy for you to browse. > At least Charlestown NSW has one. > > Regars > > Rod Warnock > KIiaben Bay NSW > Australia > At 09:35 PM 30/10/02 +1100, you wrote: > >Just wondering if "The 1851 Index to Towns, Townlands and Parishes of > >Ireland" might > >be a book, and if so where could a copy be obtained. > > > >Dennis Newton > >Victoria, Australia. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Pt17don@aol.com> > >To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:20 AM > >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary > > > > > > > in ireland parishes are mostly made up of TOWNLANDS these are rural > > > areas, bog, grazing, farming and open fields. they all had names and > >you > > > would not know one from the other only that you would stop a a local > > > farmhouse and ask the names of the townlands in the area. there are over > > > 80,000 of them in ireland and thats why you wont find them on most maps. > > > most are not near any town or city but are out in the boondocks > >MOYNEARD A > > > TOWNLAND of 711 acres in the PARISH OF MOYNE AND IN THE POOR LAW UNION OF > > > THURLES IN COUNTY TIPPERARY. > > > > > > THE ABOVE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE 1851 INDEX TO TOWNS, TOWNLANDS AND > > > PARISHES OF IRELAND. > > > > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > >Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > ______________________________

The late John Broderick, under the name of Sean Ruan, left us a legacy. These searches allow you to locate any townland, parish or village in each of Ireland's thirty two counties. http://www.seanruad.com/ You can also use wildcards. Mapquest.com can get to the parish but not the townland. Ellen "dennis john newton" <dennis@iplay.net.au> wrote: >Hi all, >Just in case anyone is interested www.gould.com.au has copies for sale, they >are located in South Australia. >This is not an advertisement for them although I buy most of my genealogy >gear from them. >Dennis Newton. >Victoria, Australia. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rod WARNOCK" <rwarnock@idx.com.au> >To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:49 PM >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary > > >> Hi Dennis >> >> If you are near a LDS Centre they wil have a copy for you to browse. >> At least Charlestown NSW has one. >> >> Regars >> >> Rod Warnock >> KIiaben Bay NSW >> Australia >> At 09:35 PM 30/10/02 +1100, you wrote: >> >Just wondering if "The 1851 Index to Towns, Townlands and Parishes of >> >Ireland" might >> >be a book, and if so where could a copy be obtained. >> > >> >Dennis Newton >> >Victoria, Australia. >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: <Pt17don@aol.com> >> >To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:20 AM >> >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary >> > >> > >> > > in ireland parishes are mostly made up of TOWNLANDS these are >rural >> > > areas, bog, grazing, farming and open fields. they all had names >and >> >you >> > > would not know one from the other only that you would stop a a local >> > > farmhouse and ask the names of the townlands in the area. there are >over >> > > 80,000 of them in ireland and thats why you wont find them on most >maps. >> > > most are not near any town or city but are out in the boondocks >> >MOYNEARD A >> > > TOWNLAND of 711 acres in the PARISH OF MOYNE AND IN THE POOR LAW UNION >OF >> > > THURLES IN COUNTY TIPPERARY. >> > > >> > > THE ABOVE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE 1851 INDEX TO TOWNS, TOWNLANDS >AND >> > > PARISHES OF IRELAND. >> > >> > >> >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >> >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >> >Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >> >> ______________________________ > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! >Digest Fianna-D-request@rootsweb.com >List Fianna-L-request@rootsweb.com >only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE >No signature/No nothing! > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Just found my uncle in the 1920 census, and learned that he had a daughter.A BIG SURPRISE. FAHERTY, Andrew, was about 35 in 1920, wife Margaret 29, daughter Eleanor 8. They lived at 207 Moffat st. He worked for the Bklyn Union Gas Co. as a janitor & a tester.He still lived there in 1950, last time in the phone book for his wife was 1960-62. WHAT HAPPEN TO ELEANOR, DID SHE MARRY,& WHO? CHILDREN? I last saw Andrew & Margaret in 1950 just after I got married. Anyone that might be able to give me information I would appreciate it, I am sure Eleanor is dead by now as she would be about 90. Need help Ed Conroy

Hi Dennis If you are near a LDS Centre they wil have a copy for you to browse. At least Charlestown NSW has one. Regars Rod Warnock KIiaben Bay NSW Australia At 09:35 PM 30/10/02 +1100, you wrote: >Just wondering if "The 1851 Index to Towns, Townlands and Parishes of >Ireland" might >be a book, and if so where could a copy be obtained. > >Dennis Newton >Victoria, Australia. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Pt17don@aol.com> >To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:20 AM >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary > > > > in ireland parishes are mostly made up of TOWNLANDS these are rural > > areas, bog, grazing, farming and open fields. they all had names and >you > > would not know one from the other only that you would stop a a local > > farmhouse and ask the names of the townlands in the area. there are over > > 80,000 of them in ireland and thats why you wont find them on most maps. > > most are not near any town or city but are out in the boondocks >MOYNEARD A > > TOWNLAND of 711 acres in the PARISH OF MOYNE AND IN THE POOR LAW UNION OF > > THURLES IN COUNTY TIPPERARY. > > > > THE ABOVE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE 1851 INDEX TO TOWNS, TOWNLANDS AND > > PARISHES OF IRELAND. > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/

Just wondering if "The 1851 Index to Towns, Townlands and Parishes of Ireland" might be a book, and if so where could a copy be obtained. Dennis Newton Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pt17don@aol.com> To: <FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Villages in Tipperary > in ireland parishes are mostly made up of TOWNLANDS these are rural > areas, bog, grazing, farming and open fields. they all had names and you > would not know one from the other only that you would stop a a local > farmhouse and ask the names of the townlands in the area. there are over > 80,000 of them in ireland and thats why you wont find them on most maps. > most are not near any town or city but are out in the boondocks MOYNEARD A > TOWNLAND of 711 acres in the PARISH OF MOYNE AND IN THE POOR LAW UNION OF > THURLES IN COUNTY TIPPERARY. > > THE ABOVE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE 1851 INDEX TO TOWNS, TOWNLANDS AND > PARISHES OF IRELAND.