My brick wall is not a person, but trying to determine parish, townland, etc. My father was born in Belfast, 1913. The address is Aughrim Street, which is in the Sandy Row area, close to City Centre, off Donegal Road. Could someone please help me with the Barony, Civil Parish, Townland, Poor Law Union, etc, etc, before I go crazy trying to find the info on the Census film. I would also like to know where Little May St (1879), Joy St (1865) and Catherine St (1866) are. The birth record I have lists Joy Street as Cromac, but I don't understand what that means. The city for all these is Belfast, Co Antrim. Thanks for any help!! Mary Kleindienst, IBSSG

Hi- I'm new to the list and new to Irish Genealogy. I've recently learned it's possible one of my ancestors came from Ennis, County Clare. I've spent several days searching through pertinent web sites, but I'm confused on one issue. Do researchers here suggest using for-fee researchers in Ireland (ex. local Heritage Centers), or have you had just as much luck on your own with records through Salt Lake, etc.? Appreciate your input. Thanks, Tracie Tlblackmn@aol.com

MAHONEY/MCNERNEY; IRL > ON,CAN > IA,USA > SD,USA; c.1825 - Searching for ancestors and descendants of Andrew MAHONEY b. abt 1823 IRL and d. 6 Sept 1907 Sioux Falls, SD,USA buried Cherokee IA, USA. He married 25 Apr 1847 in Lindsay, Victoria Co ON, CAN to Mary MCNERNEY b. 4 May 1827 IRL and died 31 Mar 1897 Cherokee IA, USA. Their children: Mary MAHONEY b. 22 May 1848 Lindsay ON,CAN James A. MAHONEY b. 19 Apr 1850 Lindsay ON,CAN Catherine MAHONEY b. 15 Dec 1851 Lindsay ON,CAN Margaret MAHONEY b. 6 Mar 1854 Lindsay ON,CAN Patrick MAHONEY b. 13 May 1856 Lindsay ON,CAN Anna MAHONEY b. 24 Aug 1857 Lindsay ON,CAN John MAHONEY b. 15 Jun 1859 Lindsay ON,CAN Andrew MAHONEY Jr. b. 9 Aug 1861 Lindsay ON,CAN Jane MAHONEY b. 7 Dec 1864 Lindsay ON,CAN Jennie Elizabeth MAHONEY b. 17 Nov 1865 Lindsay ON,CAN Charles MAHONEY b. 8 Jun 1869 Allamakee Co IA,USA William MAHONEY b. 1872 Worthing SD, USA The family came to Allamakee County IA, USA abt 1867, moving on to SD,USA within a few years. They continued to live in and around Sioux Falls, SD and Cherokee IA, USA. Canadian christening records for the children indicate sponsors poss. also family members: John MAHONEY, Patrick MAHONEY, Charles MCNERNEY, Thomas MCNERNEY. Unknown whether or not these families also came to USA or stayed in CAN. Associated surnames through children's marriages: ECKARD, O'CONNELL, WITCIK, GRUBER, HITCHCOCK, WHEELDAY, KARF, HAGGIN, ROWLEY. Any information appreciated. Hoping to locate when/where the original families immigrated to CAN. Thanks! Tracie Tlblackmn@aol.com Researching: BLACKMAN (MA>CT>NY>OH>KS) PRICE (OH) BRYAN (OH>IL>KS) STEWART (IL) PUCKETT (IN>IL) BEVAN/BIVEN (IN>IL) KRAUSE/R (GER>SD) ANDERSON (NOR>MN>SD) MAHONEY (IRE>CAN>IA>SD) McNERNEY (SCOT>CAN>IA) HAGGIN/HAGIN (KY>SD>IA) WORLEY (OH>IL>IA) WALTON (OH>IA)

looking to locate any relatives of Currans of Ballycasey, Headford, Galway or Bryan Kilmartin and Winifred O'Donnell of Aran, Inishmore, Kilronan having ton's of difficulty, church records have right dates wrong names, etc. Suz suz1heaton@aol.com or Barb bkh95@aol.com

Is there a way to narrow down where a person came from in Ireland? Here's why I'm asking: my gggrandfather Edward James Arthur m. Jane Keddie in 1867 in Galashiels, Roxburgh, Scotland. On the marriage certificate, his age was given as 21and his parents were listed as Edward Arthur (occupation bookseller) and Mary Hood. So, he was probably born about 1846. I tried looking for him in Scotland-- no luck. So then I looked for him in England (as family lore said that part of the family was originally from England). I found a birth record for an Edward James Arthur in 1846 in Surrey to an Edward Arthur and Caroline Seymour. Decided it probably wasn't him, so I kept looking. Two Scottish censuses said he was born in Ireland, but gave no indication where. Neither Arthur nor Hood (his mother's maiden name) seem to be very common in Ireland, so I'm hoping I can track them down (esp since someone born as late as 1846 might actually have made it into the records somewhere). Any ideas/hints/clues appreciated. Thanks very much, BJ Hinshaw hinshaw@cyberzane.net ---------- > When the list is as quiet as this, it makes my job so easy ! But I don't > like EASY! so let's get things a moving. Please send in your most wanted, > brick walled, longest desired ancestor, and/or your research questions in > general. Maybe we can help eachother! Remember to reply to all, not just > too me, as I don't know much more than the rest of you, if that much. > > Laura L Schmidt > schmidtm@3-cities.com > list maintainer: > Franklin Co WA: WaFrankl-L@rootsweb.com > Irish Research: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com > SC Genealogy: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > web page coordinator: > Franklin Co, WA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafrankl/franklin.htm > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > The Fianna, friends helping friends! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only! > > > > >

For those O'Leary researcher's, you might (if you haven't already) want to check out the new O'Leary query page at... http://www.genforum.com/oleary/ Luck to all in your research Audrey

Hi all, I have been doing some investigating, and found great news for all of us Irish researchers. There is a NEW and IMPROVED IrelandGenWeb project! I know one of the project coordinators (via the Internet) and know her to do fantastic jobs on anything she undertakes. She is also the county coordinator foe Somerset Co, PA, among other things and a very active RootsWeb volunteer! She also has the Scotland page. Here is part of a note I received from her: "FYI, The new IrelandGenWeb project is located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwgw/ Frederick Ramont's GenTree Ireland site is located at: http://www.gentreegenealogy.com/irel.htm Cheers! Carol E. Hepburn" Let's all cheer her on and thank her for stepping in to fill the void! Laura L Schmidt schmidtm@3-cities.com list maintainer: Franklin Co WA: WaFrankl-L@rootsweb.com Irish Research: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com SC Genealogy: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com web page coordinator: Franklin Co, WA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafrankl/franklin.htm

At 04:51 PM 5/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >When the list is as quiet as this, it makes my job so easy ! But I don't >like EASY! so let's get things a moving. Please send in your most wanted, >brick walled, longest desired ancestor, and/or your research questions in >general. ....... Okay, here goes. Edward CUSHNAGHAN born County Antrim, Ireland, March 1830. Parents: Edward CUSHNAGHAN and Mary CULLEN. Brother:Daniel, born 1838, County Antrim. Edward (1830-1921) came to the US in November 1951, on the ship William Rathbone. Daniel (1838) came to US in 1866. Trying to find marriage of Edward (1) and Mary CULLEn, and from what parish/township they came from in County Antrim. After their arrival in US, name changes to CUSHMAN and by 1870, both brothers using the name CUSHING. Have found CUSHNAGHAN's in a couple of places on the Antrim census....but no Edward. Same for Tithe. Roman Catholic in US. Interesting twist: Edward CUSHNAGHAN and Mary_____, with Children, Edward age 3 and Jane age 1 arrived in Canada in 1833. Don't know if it's the same family, but interesting connections. I am in contact with Ron CUSHMAN in Ontario who is descendant of the Canadian Edward....and I'm descendant of the US Edward. Canadian branch are Presbyterian. There are other interesting connections between the two families...babies born in one country when can't be found in the other...etc. Process of elimination rather than facts. Help! Any suggestions welcome!! Peg Buckman DavePeg@ix.netcom.com .... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/7401/

In a message dated 27/05/98 14:49:55 GMT, Brian wrote: << Also, are there any school records archived at this time and by whom? I realise that this may be a "tall order". >> I hope someone answers this to the group, as I would love to know, too! best wishes, Moira Searching for Cork FORDEs

We are having a NORTHERN IRELAND gathering on #GenealogyForum on Afternet IRC on Wednesday, May 27th. We gather to share information such as Websites, Mailing lists, and Resources (our own and our aid in local lookups). We share our surnames and areas that we are researching, make GREAT new friends, and generally have an enjoyable evening together. The scheduled topics for June can be found on our webpage. If you have never used IRC as a genealogical tool, you are missing an excellent resource to aid in your search. Our webpage has complete step by step instructions for downloading IRC software and how to use it. There are instructions for AOL and WebTV as well as the regionally located ISPs. There is NO CHARGE for the software unless you decide to register it and it doesn't expire if you don't register. This is a totally free resource! (and who said the good things in life aren't free? <smile>) Give it a try,, you will be pleased that you did! Then, share the information about it with your friends and mailing lists, the more people who gather, the better the chance of connecting with someone researching YOUR family name. Our website is: http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ Feel free to email me if you have any difficulty in joining.... Regards, tex^mom >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server irc.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple instructions for joining us? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! Wednesday-May 27th-Northern Ireland ! 8PM Eastern USA We have topical discussions three evenings a week! DATES - TIMES - TOPICS ARE LISTED ON THE WEBPAGE http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ email: pscobb@mailhost.iamerica.net

Hello Irish Researchers, My GGrandparents conducted a Grocery Store on the Corner of Liverpool Street and Kingsland Park Avenue, DUBLIN - in 1870. Liverpool Street was later renamed (in the mid- 1870's) as Portobello Road. The address today is 1 Portobello Road, South Dublin which is now the location of a Restaurant known as "THORNTONS". I visited this "ancestral site" in 1995! I would appreciate it if someone could tell me the name/address of the nearest Catholic Church and the Convent School in this area of Dublin. Also, are there any school records archived at this time and by whom? I realise that this may be a "tall order". Sincerely, Brian J Hickey <brianjhickey@msn.com> AUSTRALIA <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/c/Brian-J-Hickey

Charles at chic@ewol.com asks; >Looking for the Parish that holds the Catholic Church records for the >following area's. All in the county of KILKENNY. PARISH--DUNGARVEN TOWNLAND--BRAMBLESTOWN. R.C parish of Gowran & Clara, b,1809;m.1810. PARISH--DURROW TOWNLAND--BALLYNASLEE R.C.parish of Ballyragget,b.1801;m.1856. PARISH--GOWRAN. TOWNLAND--CLOVER R.C.parish of Gowran & Clara,b.1809;m.1810. PARISH--KNOCKTOPHER. TOWNLAND--COOLMORE R.C. parish of Ballyhale,b.1823. PARRISH--RATHCOOLE. TOWNLAND--JOHNWELL R.C.parish of St.John's,b.&m. 1789. Hope this is of some help to you. Jim Good Luck and God Bless You JJKenny_Houston_Texas@Compuserve.com(70444.222) JJ.Kenny@BBS.Hal-PC.org

Trying to get all the pieces of the puzzle. Wrote to the parish in Kilkenny and was told no marriage records prior to 1845 and no death records prior to 1923 is there any where else I can look. This is what I have so far but I''m at a dead end without dates or more information * Michael Fennelly married to Catherine Dwyer of Bricana (no other information) * Nicholas Fennelly (b. 1848) married to Mary Hollohan, no record of marriage or when they left Ireland (if they left together) * children of Nicholas and Mary settled in Downingtown, Pa. * found children of Michael and Catherine, from Grangefertagh * James Fennelly (b.1885, d.1953) married Helen Connelly (1888-1927) no information on Helen, believe she was raised by Nuns in a convent in West Chester, Pa. had a sister Mae. James worked in the Paper Mills in Downingtown, Helen died in childbirth. Hopefully someone can make a connection or has some idea where I can go from here. Thanks Sharon

Looking for the Parish that holds the Catholic Church records for the following area's.(address that is).(Still looking for NICHOLAS PURCELL) All in the county of KILKENNY. PARISH--DUNGARVEN TOWNLAND--BRAMBLESTOWN. PARISH--DURROW TOWNLAND--BALLYNASLEE PARISH--GOWRAN. TOWNLAND--CLOVER PARISH--KNOCKTOPHER. TOWNLAND--COOLMORE PARRISH--RATHCOOLE. TOWNLAND--JOHNWELL Any info would be greatly appreciated. charles chic@ewol.com

>Hi Lorraine, > > As far as I know my Kellys were from Waterford but I'm not 100% >sure on that as I only know that is where her daughter was born. My Mary >Kelly was born around the end of the 1700's or early 1800's. > > Regards Margaret Vrkljan > marg@rint.com.au > > > > Regards, > Margaret Vrkljan. > marg@rint.com.au > >Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, >Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, >Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, >Thomson/Thompson, Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, >Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, >Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, >Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Vrkljan >

Hi Joe and Laura, My McCormick's are from County Clare. My gr.grandfather Francis McCormick arrived in Australia in the 1860's, his brother Cornelius was already here before him. His father was Thomas McCormick and his mother was Mary Lynch who died in the 1850's soon after having her last child.. Thomas remarried three months later and then started another family. Not enough food for all, so some siblings came to Australia and some went to America. Later Francis brought his half sister Brigid the daughter of his father and second wife ----Pepper/Peppard to Australia. My grandmother used to correspond with one of the siblings in America but she died 40 years ago and no one can remember the name from America. One aunty thinks it was Hardy or Harding or something like that but it is probably nowhere near it. Regards, Margaret Vrkljan. marg@rint.com.au Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Vrkljan Regards, Margaret Vrkljan. marg@rint.com.au Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Vrkljan

Okay, guys and gals, it's all there (except the forms, we still nip back to Geocities for those :) until I understand the way they're done on rootsweb). Many pages have been renamed and/or placed into subdirectories, so chirho won't get so lost!! But they seem, to ME at least, to make sense, and I hope you'll be able to find your pages :) Of course, you'll want to redo your bookmarks! Now that we have a big new home on a faaaaassssst server, no cost and no popups, we should be getting out and letting folks know about our growing resource :) Please, can you think of this when helping others? And maybe blow a horn for it now and then!! ;) And of course, we do plan to grow, right? Everyone working hard on their projects (those in active fians)? Anyone else want to donate data that we can share with the genealogy community? chirho will code it, as long as it's not copyrighted by anyone other than you ;) and is also working on a BIG project on the counties. Changes will continue to occur as we try to balance streamlined download with pleasant to the eye pages. :) The music will be back, after chirho finds out a way to have it available without downloading willy-nilly - since that bothers a lot of folks. As you browse through our spiffed-up, newly refurbished, moved home, any links that don't work and any other problems that you find need to be sent to chirho, so that they can be repaired :) It is OUR site, let's all take part in it and help make it great! Oh, and where is it? Just check the last line in the sig below!!! :) Peace. Anne . chirho@prodigy.net http://www.hoseahouse.org http://www.geocities.com/~hoseahouse/genealogy/index.html http://www.geocities.com/~fiannag/index.html

Received the below message from Brian. I did not get any messages back at Fianna or SC-Genealogy, so I assume everything is ok, but if you sent any queries at that time, please resend them. Laura L Schmidt schmidtm@3-cities.com list maintainer: Franklin Co WA: WaFrankl-L@rootsweb.com Irish Research: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com SC Genealogy: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com web page coordinator: Franklin Co, WA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafrankl/franklin.htm >Due to an error in how we handled the listservers, RootsWeb has >irretrievably lost 480 posts that were made between 12:37p and >01:43p this afternoon. > >While RootsWeb cannot retrieve those posts, I think all of them were >bounced to the listowners with some cryptic error message saying the >post could not be sent because of a disk full situation. > >*You* can retransmit those messages to your lists, and they should >go through fine now. > >Sorry about that. ): -B > > >-- >Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ >P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com >

Received this when marg subscribed! Thought the list would like to see this. And where are your McCormicks from? Also have Stapleton in the family, but not searching it yet...from upper New York state (my sister in law). Laura L Schmidt schmidtm@3-cities.com list maintainer: Franklin Co WA: WaFrankl-L@rootsweb.com Irish Research: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com SC Genealogy: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com web page coordinator: Franklin Co, WA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafrankl/franklin.htm -----Original Message----- From: marg <marg@rint.com.au> Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 3:16 PM >subscribe >Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, Conlon, Cronnin/an, >Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, Lynch, McCormick, >Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, Stapleton, >Thomson/Thompson, Researching: Barrett, Brennan, Butler, Carr/Corr/Kerr, >Conlon, Cronnin/an, Faulds, Gibson, Hallinan, Hanrahan, Kelly, Kirby, Love, >Lynch, McCormick, Mills, Noble, O'Laughlin, Questead, Rudderforth, >Stapleton, Thomson/Thompson, Vrkljan >

Kathy Hoeldke at hoeldke@beeline.ca asks: >I have Samuel Waters b. 1786 in Carponey, Antrim, Ireland he married Ann >Cargo abt 1789 also from Carponey, Antrim, Ireland. Can anyone help with >these families. Kathy..I cannot find a Town/Townland or Parish with the name CARPONEY in my atlas or in the 1851 Townland Index. Can you check the spelling. Jim Good Luck and God Bless You JJKenny_Houston_Texas@Compuserve.com(70444.222) JJ.Kenny@BBS.Hal-PC.org