A genealogy mail list is a service provided to allow you to ask questions of others and help answer the questions asked. The list maintainer normally has just as little information on specific questions as do regular list members. The only thing the list maintainer is there to do, is to maintain mailing addresses, keep the list flowing, throw in a question to cause conversation when there is a slump in mail, get rid of flamers, and help you subscribe and unsubscribe. Maintainers are not here as a question and answer board. If you are lucky the maintainer might know something about the answer. This is not the list maintainers list, but yours! It is up to you to help each other and succeed success in your research. When you are at a wall or frustrated , we (the list) want to hear. We are here for encouragement! We are all in this together. When you don't get an answer to your question, don't be upset! Wait a week or two and repost it, you never know when someone new has joined our list, and might just know the answer. Many of us save letters of unanswered questions and ask other lists at times on behalf of you, who wrote the question. You just have to be patient. Thanks Laura

I haven't....thank goodness. At 08:16 AM 6/4/98 -0400, you wrote: >Has anyone else been receiving emails that are sales oriented or links to >objectional sites for children to see? >SusanB > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers >Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > > > MsPelican@charleston.net

Yes, at least 2 every day for about a week now.

You wrote: <I received one for adult viewing yesterday. I just filed it in delete, but I was wondering how <it came through. Isn't this thing screened? Answer: I can assure one and all, the spam you received did not come through the Fianna List. If it would have the subject line Fianna-L would have been on it too. RootsWeb has an excellant spam filter. But Tim is always looking for new addresses to add to his filter. If you still have the letter that you received, please forward it to me, NOT THE LIST, and I will forward it to Tim. Do NOT cut and paste, but forward it on, we need all the garbage that comes attached up by the address. That mail would have come through your ISP or another mailing service you might be a member of, just not RootsWeb. Laura schmidtm@3-cities.com

yes, I received one for adult viewing yesterday. I just filed it in delete, but I was wondering how it came through. Isn't this thing screened? Maryanne Shannon ---------- > From: goatsong@earthlink.net > To: FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FIANNA-L] Unwanted mail? > Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 7:16 AM > > Has anyone else been receiving emails that are sales oriented or links to > objectional sites for children to see? > SusanB > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers > Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > >

I've just been lucky enough to receive a huge xerox of the 'Miscellany of the Celtic Society - Genealogy of the Corca Laidhe' from the Cork county Library and I was wondering if someone could help with some of the Irish name appendages. -mor as in Maccon Mor -og as in Tadhg Og -caech as in Tadhg Caech Thanks Amy

Bill, thank you for the background on memorials/deeds. It has significance to me since I was examining the grantor index books in the Registry of Deeds in February when I was in Dublin. I also looked at some of the books sorted by locality and saw what must have been the memorials, which were fairly difficult for me to read (Gothic German script is harder). I have just joined the FIANNA list, so I don't know what your questions have been. On the handful of newsgroups I read everyday, I occasionally post a question and many times I get no response. However, twice now in about a year, I have gotten excerpts of private diaries which were very meaningful for my family history. I never would have known that about the life of that period and the mentions of my family without those individuals stopping to type it all and send it to me. So, a few jewels for a lot of effort - it does mirror regular gen. research, doesn't it? Chin up! Sharon Carberry Researching Carberry, Donnellan, Hehir, Tynan, Connell, and Cuneen

Not I. Have you posted to any of the lists that are connected with newsgroups, or to a newsgroup? That seems to be where the slime and spam meisters gather names/email addys. Some of that stuff arrives every time I post that the FIANNA pages are updated, and then none until I make another such post (to soc.xxxxxxxx or Genire and Genbrit) Doesn't happen from Ireland-L or FIANNA-L or IrelandGenWeb-L because they are "closed", i.e. email only, to subscribers only, and therefore not available to the scummy ones.... Peace. Anne At 08:16 AM 6/4/98 -0400, you wrote: >Has anyone else been receiving emails that are sales oriented or links to >objectional sites for children to see? >SusanB > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers >Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > > > chirho@prodigy.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ http://www.hoseahouse.org/

Has anyone else been receiving emails that are sales oriented or links to objectional sites for children to see? SusanB

Hi, I can't find the listowners addy and I want to post an addy for naturalization lookups, please contact me so I can get the addy approved. Sorry to post to everyone but I couldn't find it in my saved file. Des

Hi Ellen John Grenham in his book TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS says the following: After a deed had been signed and witnessed one of the parties had a copy know as a Memorial made, signed it and had it witnessed by two people, at least one of whom had been a witness to the original. The Memorial was then sworn before a Justice of the Peace, as a faithful copy of the Original and sent to the Registry. Here it was transcribed into a large Manuscript Volume and indexed. The original [copy] was was retained and stored and these are all still preserved in the valuts of the Registry. I have been sent a few copies by others and they are copies of the Original[copies] and are in much better shape than the M/F copies of the MSS. Volunes. The Irish use the PUNT and it is somewhat lower than the English Pound. Today's quote is British Pound 1.63872 to the US $ Irish Punt 1.41898 to US $ Hope this helps - I have rec'd no answer to my questions from this list or the IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com List. Bill

Dear Laura, Never mind the exact answer -- I really like yours! ---------- | From: Joe & Laura Schmidt <schmidtm@3-cities.com> | To: FIANNA-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: [FIANNA-L] Fw: stupid question | Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 12:09 PM | | >Laura, | > | >Another stupid question, what does FIANNA stand for? | > | | Whew, I guess I haven't thought about the true meaning in quite a while. I | know Chirho will have an exact accurate answer, but let me tell you what | Fianna means to me. We are an army of researchers, all on the same side, | fighting all of our roadblocks to get to our roots. We all have a common | purpose and common love (GENEALOGY). We are comrades, trying to help each | other, and having fun while we do it! | | But wait, Chirho the official definition is in your hands! | | Laura L Schmidt | schmidtm@3-cities.com | list maintainer: | Franklin Co WA: WaFrankl-L@rootsweb.com | Irish Research: Fianna-L@rootsweb.com | SC Genealogy: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com | web page coordinator: | Franklin Co, WA: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wafrankl/franklin.htm | | ______________________________

Hi Marilyn....... The URL (addy) is "American Colonies & Plantations" www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm. Hope this helps you out. Only fair that I help when I can since so many have helped me :-) Sharry MSA440@aol.com wrote: > > Please send me the site associated with the above-mentioned subject.....and > ... > > Many, many thanks to everyone who helped me recover my genealogical sites for > my FAVORITE PLACES which had mysteriously disappeared...Appreciated all the > comments and help too!!!!! That's more of what these lists are for....and I'm > sincerely grateful. Marylyn (MSA440@aol.com) > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Fianna-L@rootsweb.com > favorite sites: > Try: http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award winner*** Thanks to Chirho > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only!

Hi Ruth, No question is ever dumb <G>. I don't even know how to answer your question...(see that, I didn't even know). Whatever it was on your last message, it has gone away now. Your last note had html code attached. This one is fine, so it must have been corrected by your server. Hope you find all your Alabama connections. Happy Hunting. Peg At 10:36 PM 6/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >I don't know what is meant by "turn off your html" or the other >suggestions in the message. > >I hesitate to ask as I feel it is probably a dumb question. > >Ruth >wkbw98e@prodigy.com > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers >Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > > > >

My Boland ancestor was from Limerick City. Ruth wkbw98e@prodigy.com

Laura: I wouldn't be surprised if Coomey and Cooney weren't from the same line. Many times our family name was spelled Cooney - on passenger list, on census records, etc. What is your Cooney line? Ruth Hakala wkbw98e@prodigy.com

Ray This came my way and I know you have a home page. It might have some thought provoking ideas in it for you. I am off to Adelaide again tomorrow afternoon. It is a long weekend here. Back Monday. The weather has been brilliant the last few days. We had 19 yesterday. Considering winter has started it is great. No doubt it will make up for it soon. HAd a front end alignment yesterday. Whoever did the job before stuffed it up. The front tyres were scrubbing. One had developed a couple of noisy flat spots. Apart from that it seems OK. Getting 6 kilometers per litre on LPG around town at the moment which is good. Must go am arguing with the neighbour behind about new fences. Bye John Joe & Laura Schmidt wrote: > Hi, This came over the DeepSouth mail list and I thought it was very > important to pass on. We, that use the mail lists, need also to remember to > never pass on living individual's dates in the mail we send to a list! This > article is about websites, but the same applies here. > *********************************** > > Hi to all, > I received this the other day and believe it is CRITICAL that everyone > involved in genealogy read this!! Just in case there may be someone who had > not thought of this angle before. > Remember: 'AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE'. > Here is the article from the May issue of US NEWS & WORLD > REPORT.................... > I hope it helps someone. Love, KAREN > **************************************************************************** > ** > ************ > > This article from the US News & World Report was posted on the > Cumberland River Region. It makes some very interesting points and > is worth passing around. > > U.S. News and World Report > > News You Can Use 5/11/98 > > ON MONEY > > BY MARGARET MANNIX > > Home-page snoops > > Does your family have a home page on the Internet? If so, you might want to > reconsider how much personal information you post online. Con artists who > steal others' identities, get credit in their names, then leave innocent > people with a mountain of debt to fight and ruined credit to clean up are > discovering the charms of the Net. > > Old-fashioned techniques like wading through Dumpsters for discarded > credit-card receipts take time. These days, a savvy thief can hack into an > Internet service provider's subscriber list and lift credit-card numbers by > the thousands. Databases full of sensitive information have been > inadvertently left open in cyberspace. And some online outfits peddle > sensitive information without regard to privacy, despite Federal Trade > Commission scrutiny last year that encouraged many to limit how they sell > services like looking up Social Security numbers. > > Meanwhile, thousands of netizens are unknowingly making it easier for > thieves to steal their identities by posting individual home pages, family > genealogies, and résumés. Sure, there's no harm in posting photographs of > Morris or Fido. And only the foolish post a Social Security number on a Web > site. But many pages are packed with the sort of details identity thieves > crave: full names, birth dates, birthplaces, addresses, occupations, > degrees, phone numbers. With the click of a mouse, a thief has a personal > dossier at his fingertips. > > Think about it. A name, birth date, and birthplace will get you a birth > certificate, and a driver's license is not far behind. "The driver's > license, unfortunately, has become a de facto ID," says Beth Givens, > director of the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse in San Diego. It's the key to > all sorts of financial services, and it propels a thief closer to the magic > number: the Social Security number. > > Mom's maiden name. Some family tree tracers place details like a mother's > maiden name online. That's often a common password for credit cards and bank > accounts. Revealing such personal details, says Ed Howard, executive > director of the Center for Law in the Public Interest in Los Angeles, is > "privacy suicide." > > As Howard points out, the Internet isn't a toy. Your home page may have > hooked you up with a long-lost friend or relative, but it can also put you > at risk. Identity-theft victims suffer the aftermath of the criminal's > spending sprees for years in the form of calls from collection agencies, > ruined credit, even mistaken arrest. > > While the Internet is a wonderful tool for genealogists (it has > revolutionized family research), think again before jeopardizing the privacy > of your relatives by putting intimate details up on the Web. "If a family > member is going to put up the genealogy, I think they should notify all the > living members of that family tree," says Givens--who would prefer her > family tree in book form. > > You'll never have complete control over your personal information, so you'll > never be immune to fraud. But why make it easy for someone to impersonate > you? If you wouldn't post your background on your local grocery store's > bulletin board, don't put it on the Internet. "It's the world's bulletin > board," says Carole Lane, author of Naked in Cyberspace: How to Find > Personal Information Online (Pemberton Press, 1997, $29.95). And con artists > are checking it out. > > Take a bite out of credit crimes > Tip: Identity thieves like to rifle through mailboxes for preapproved credit > card and loan solicitations, fill them out, and start using other people's > credit. A 1997 amendment to the Fair Credit Reporting Act (the law that > governs credit bureaus) required credit bureaus to establish toll-free "opt > out" lines that consumers can call to remove their names from those mailing > lists. To keep your mailbox free of such identity thief temptations, call > any of the three largest credit bureaus: > > Equifax > (800) 556-4711 > > Experian > (800) 353-0809 > > Trans Union > (800) 680-7293 > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Visit both these pages > Fianna favorite sites > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner***Thank You Chirho! > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only!

Hi I'm looking for Patrick McDERMOTT circa 1813 and his wife Bridgett Flanelly circa 1813. Married in the 1830's and son Patrick b 1840, daughter Mary 1843, moved to Canada 1844. J.J.McDermott On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:46:11 -0700 "Joe & Laura Schmidt" <schmidtm@3-cities.com> writes: > >RESEARCHING: County Donegal > > >The family surnames are: > >McBRIDE, McFadden, Gallagher, Mills, MacPaul, Brogan, Maloney, >Carr, Shields, McDermott, Lundy, McDaid, Sweeney, McLaughlin, >O'Donald, and >Boyce. > > >MsPelican@charleston.net > > >MCBRIDE/MCFADDEN > >Searching for information on Patrick McBRIDE, b. cira 1850, d. in USA, >married Margery _?__may have also been a McBride, b. 1854, d. 1938 > >Their children: Patrick b. 1878, d. 1951, m. Margery GALLAGHER b. >1880, d. >1964, Annie b. ?d. 1955, James b.1880, d. 1962 (in USA) m. Catherine >McFADDEN b. 1877, d. 1949 (in USA), Nellie b. ? d.1968, Madge b. ? >d.1969 m. >John BOYCE > >Children of: James McBRIDE & Catherine McFADDEN > >Patick James b. 1912 d. 1986 (USA), John b. 1913 d. 1975 (USA), Edward >b. >1915 d. 1966 (USA). > > >MsPelican@charleston.net > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >The Fianna, where St Patricks's Day is EVERYDAY! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >Try: http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm >Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! >Messages to list in plain text only! > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi all, am looking for the following surnames- HURLEY-John-Limerick DALTON-Elizabeth-Limerick These are the parents of my ggrandfather, Martin HURLEY, who emigrated to U.S. in mid 1840's. Settled in Marion Co. Va.(now WV). Any info would be appreciated. Thanks--Martha Hurley Tucker

Hi, Joe and Laura: I am also researching County Donegal - Parks, Kilday, Cunningham, Breslin, Alexander and McNellis. I'll keep an eye open for your surnames if you do the same for me. Good Hunting !!! Bill Parks