OOPS! This was a private message which went astray! Ellen

'I'm trying to find an obit for Bishop James Duggan, born (I think) in County Kerry IRE, died in St. Louis late 1890's." I see that there have been very helpful replies to this request. Before I saw those, I did an Alta Vista search, which turned up a website describing the beginning years of the Bishop's mental difficulties in Chicago, said to be well chronicled in the newspapers there. Also, this website, which is an article itself, has a photo-type drawing of himself. Sharon Carberry

Sorry List, I meant to send the note to Jan. Apology...... Deirdra > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FIANNA-L] Re: Bishop Duggan > > > Jeanne and Sharon, thank you so much for the information! I have found > several things here at the University of Dayton, and from the Sisters in > St. Louis. I'm hoping an obit will list living relatives, since my > ggrandmother was supposedly his niece, so I can see if any other family > members were in the U.S. Fortunately, his "shattered health" hasn't proven > to be genetic, yet <G>. Thanks again > Jan Guiliano > > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers > Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/

Hi Jan, I was wondering if your Bishop Duggan was from Cork City, Ireland originally? Do you have other Duggan information? I have an O'Callaghan married to a Denis Duggan in Cork City, 1895. Anything? Deirdra > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FIANNA-L] Re: Bishop Duggan > > > Jeanne and Sharon, thank you so much for the information! I have found > several things here at the University of Dayton, and from the Sisters in > St. Louis. I'm hoping an obit will list living relatives, since my > ggrandmother was supposedly his niece, so I can see if any other family > members were in the U.S. Fortunately, his "shattered health" hasn't proven > to be genetic, yet <G>. Thanks again > Jan Guiliano > > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers > Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/

Jeanne and Sharon, thank you so much for the information! I have found several things here at the University of Dayton, and from the Sisters in St. Louis. I'm hoping an obit will list living relatives, since my ggrandmother was supposedly his niece, so I can see if any other family members were in the U.S. Fortunately, his "shattered health" hasn't proven to be genetic, yet <G>. Thanks again Jan Guiliano

http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/county/sligo.html Correct spelling error Co Slig Miscellaneous Records Shall I just send these as I find them? I'm working on the RC records. I don't recall giving Dianna Hanson these lists. I did give them to the webmasters of the various counties. SLC is outdated terminology. It should be FHLC, not even LDS FHLC#. People get rather careless is terminology and think terms can be interchanged at their whim. This is a sticky point for me as I was a speech pathologist, constantly trying to get other professionals to use that wording. But I don't need to do that any more. Now I am emeritus and even let my license lapse. I discovered genealogy and retired when work interfered with research. Ellen

I ordered a film from FHL and it contained on it a description of Dublin various lists of organizations andit's memmbers and included in this film was a section in Latin and in French . Presumably about a french area in Dublin? The time period included a list of Dublin goldsmiths from 1777. Any clues about this passage in french? Anyone hear of a french section in Dublin? DArcy

Thank you Sharon, I will look it up. Gord In message <[email protected]>, Sharon Carberry <[email protected]> writes >Gordon, > >I posted that message on the list, because >I had no way to do a private message. I >did send all 5 parts of the database to the >person who requested,but it took me far >too long to repeat the exercise, However, >the original posting, in 5 parts, was done >by Ruth Hakala on this list and can be re- >trieved from the archives at >http://www.rootsweb.com (to mailing lists) > >Sharon Carberry > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >The Fianna, where St Patricks's Day is EVERYDAY! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > -- Gordon Lowry

Sorry, I inadvertantly deleted the original email :( (there is a Catholic Encyclopedia on-line) HTH :) -jeanne New Advent http://www.knight.org/advent Archdiocese of Chicago (Chicagiensis). Diocese created 28 November, 1842; raised to the rank of an archdiocese, 10 September, 1880; comprises the State of Illinois, U.S.A., north of the south line of Whiteside, Lee, De Kalb, Grundy, and Kankakee Counties, a territory of 10,379 square miles. [snip] Fourth Bishop The Right Rev. James Duggan, who has acted as administrator of the diocese, was then appointed its bishop. He was born at Maynooth, County Kildare, Ireland, 22 May, 1825, and emigrated, in 1842, to St. Louis U.S.A., where he was ordained priest 29 May, 1847. In 1857 he was appointed auxiliary to Archbishop Kendrick, and consecrated titular bishop of Antigone. Two years later he was transferred to the vacant see of Chicago. From this is dated a new era in the Catholic life of Chicago. The parochial school system was organized, and charitable institutions sprang up on all sides. In 1860 the Redemptorists, and in the following year the Benedictines, established foundations among the Germans of the North Side. The Religious of the Sacred Heart opened the institution that has since rendered high service in the cause of Catholic education. Bishop Duggan chose as his vicar-general the Rev. Dennis Dunne, pastor of St. Patrick's, a priest whose noble and generous nature endured him to all who new him. The Rev. Thaddeus Butler was made secretary and the Rev. John McMullen chancellor. It was the last named who induced the sisters of the Good Shepherd to take up their beneficent work in Chicago. St. Columbkill's, St. Bridget's, St. James, the Immaculate Conception, and St. John's parishes were also organized at this time. The refinement and gentleness of Bishop Duggan, his ease and grace of manner, made him socially very popular; while his public spirit was much appreciated by the community at large. In 1862 he went to Rome to be present at the canonization of the Japanese martyrs, and he attended, in 1866, the Second Plenary Council of Baltimore. It was about this time that he gave unmistakable signs of the mental aberration of which he was finally to fall victim. Acting upon the advice of friends, he went to Carlsbad, expecting to recuperate his shattered health, but the effort was in vain, and the condition of Bishop Duggan became such that he was removed, 14 April, 1869, to the asylum of the Sisters of Charity in St. Louis. There, without recovering his mental powers, he remained till his death, 27 March 1899. Bishop Duggan being incapacitated, the Rev. H.T. Halligan took charge of the diocese. [snip] JOHN WEBSTER MELODY Transcribed by M. Donahue From the Catholic Encyclopedia, copyright � 1913 by the Encyclopedia Press, Inc. Electronic version copyright � 1997 by New Advent, Inc.

Guiliano's wrote: > > Has anyone had any experience with Chicago newspaper Archives? I'm trying > to find an obit for Bishop James Duggan, born (I think) in County Kerry > IRE, died in St. Louis late 1890's. Since he was prominent, there must have > been an obit, but I've had no luck with Catholic Church newspapers. > Jan Guiliano > John, I was looking several years ago for the death date of (famous or infamous?) Fr. Charles Coughlin, called the "radio priest." I found him in the Catholic Encyclopedia. If your library has the Catholic Encyclopedia, it might be worth checking for him there. I don't have any experience with the Chicago newspaper archives. Margaret Jenkins -- E-mail: [email protected] OR [email protected]

Has anyone had any experience with Chicago newspaper Archives? I'm trying to find an obit for Bishop James Duggan, born (I think) in County Kerry IRE, died in St. Louis late 1890's. Since he was prominent, there must have been an obit, but I've had no luck with Catholic Church newspapers. Jan Guiliano

Gordon, I posted that message on the list, because I had no way to do a private message. I did send all 5 parts of the database to the person who requested,but it took me far too long to repeat the exercise, However, the original posting, in 5 parts, was done by Ruth Hakala on this list and can be re- trieved from the archives at http://www.rootsweb.com (to mailing lists) Sharon Carberry

There really was not that much shown. Just some man from the LDS sitting with Katie Curic (sp?) and a PC. It had all been previously set up so that whatever name he entered, he got the answer to. It was nothing more than what we see when using it. And again, the man said something to the effect of when you find something that you are interested in, you can go to the FHC and order the film to look at the rest. All in all it took about 8 minutes. I'm almost embarrassed that I mentioned it on the lists. Deirdra > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:15 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] Today Show - NOW > > > Wan't able to catch the Today show ..... would you please pass on > the info on > how to access the Family search site... Thank you! Tara >

Thanks so much for your time.

Maybe Howard University near Washington, DC? They've had a psychiatry hospital and training program for a LONG time... Just a thought. HTH At 04:38 PM 5/25/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hi, >I find your info. interesting as my grandfather emigrated from Ire. and said >he worked in New York, he never mentioned Rhode Island. Actually he told me >the name was Howard State University for the Insane. The state/university >never did sound correct. > >thank you, >Carell > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Fianna Mailing list maintainer: [email protected] >Home of the Fianna: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ > > > > > >

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Wan't able to catch the Today show ..... would you please pass on the info on how to access the Family search site... Thank you! Tara

Hi, I find your info. interesting as my grandfather emigrated from Ire. and said he worked in New York, he never mentioned Rhode Island. Actually he told me the name was Howard State University for the Insane. The state/university never did sound correct. thank you, Carell

Hi, Howard State was a public Hospital for the Mentally disturbed. With new legislation regarding Mental Illness, it closed in about the early 1950's. It is located in Cranston, Rhode Island. Not only was it for the Mentally disturbed, it was also a place for people who had little or no means to pay for regular medical treatment. LoftyNotes

SIMPSON-Alexander-b. 1876 Co. Tyrone Anna b. 1869 Co. Tyrone married W. HENRY, daughter May FLEMMING Charlotte b. 1870 Co. Tyrone married W. McCORD John b. 1860 Co. Tyrone, daughter Mary, married William MURPHY George b. 1866, Co. Tyrone, died 1903-Belfast Robert Henry b. 1880 Co. Antrim, d. 1977-Sacramento, CA MULHOLLAND-George d. 1840 Co. Tyrone-married to Anna Ellen-b. 1838 Co. Tyrone, d. 1909 Belfast Eliza(beth?) b. 1835 Co. Tyrone Seeking offspring on the above. Carell [email protected]