Isn't this typical of the Irish & the British???? >Ellen wrote ...The British army left Ireland in 1922.< >Sean wrote ....The British army never left Ireland< >Pat's keeping his head down as the bullets start flying.< Fun isn't it !!!!!! Pat

I have been tracing my Kennedy/Gilligan ancestors, and all my info leads me to Waterloo and Geneva NY. Anyone out there researching Kennedy or Gilligan in NY? jko It is in the shelter of each other that the people live. -Irish Proverb

Jean Brown wrote: > > Can we please get back to the "Genealogy" topics...which is why we are > supposed to be here. > > Thanks. > > Jean Brown in North Carolina > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > [email protected] > favorite sites: > Try: http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ Thanks to Chirho > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ Thanks Jean; It's always good to have a self appointed Director General.

Can we please get back to the "Genealogy" topics...which is why we are supposed to be here. Thanks. Jean Brown in North Carolina

--WebTV-Mail-224-4769 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit NO I DID NOT GET THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. I WAS HOPING TO GET INFORMATION ON AN ADDRESS FOR THE "IRISH" ARMY PERSONNEL DEPT. WHERE I MIGHT OBTAIN INFO. ON MY UNCLE. JIM BELL --WebTV-Mail-224-4769 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by postoffice-292.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id MAA18658; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03521; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "christine escoriza" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L]Irish Army in 1929??? Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 20:38:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/4075 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Gus wrote..."Each should clarify their statements" If that happens then this thread can go on forever. The issue is,did James Bell get a satisfactory answer to his particular Genealogical query? Christine. ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? Try: http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm --WebTV-Mail-224-4769--

Hello, I would like that "Person" to explain why he believes the Brits never left Ireland and what is this "Here, Here" or maybe it was "Harr, Harr". Talk about dumb. Instead of the proverbial Irish joke it should be the proverbial Brit joke. Hey, the Empire is gone and forgotten. The world does not care any more about the past than it will in a few hundred years when the USA will be replaces by someone else who will protect your Brit arse. But you Irish have nothing to brag about. To be "neutral" during WWII is like being half pregnant. It is a black disgusting period of Irish history and nothing will ever mitigate the deplorable actions of the Irish during Europe's darkest hours. I am glad my Irish ancestors got the hell out of Dodge before than despicable period. And I bet you anything it is not even mentioned in the Irish history books of the collaboration between Dublin and Berlin. I been there, done that and have the shell frags to prove it you Candy Asses who want to start something you know absolutely nothing about. You can talk the talk over a beer but at the first shot you could not walk the walk if you bloody life depended on it. Vietnam 1968-69/1970-71 Jack Terrell San Antonio, Texas christine escoriza wrote: > Gus wrote..."Each should clarify their statements" > If that happens then this thread can go on forever. > The issue is,did James Bell get a satisfactory answer to his particular > Genealogical query? > Christine. > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm

I am looking for the Irish home town of my family. My grandfather is named Patrick Henry Kirby (born c1875). He was a son of John Kirby and Honora Ferguson Kirby. Supposingly they came from County Mayo. This is the story my father told to me. ----My gandfather killed an Englishman or an British sympathizer. He tried to go to France but found they had an extradiction treatry with Great Britain. So he excaped to Canada and then came to the US where he joined up with Roosevelt in the Spanish American War so he could get a fast citizenship. He then moved to Massachusetts. If I could find out a way to get a hold of Irish history of late 1890s I could perhaps locate our ancestral town. Anyway I am trying all avenues.

Gus wrote..."Each should clarify their statements" If that happens then this thread can go on forever. The issue is,did James Bell get a satisfactory answer to his particular Genealogical query? Christine.

Ellen wrote ...The british army left Ireland in 1922. Sean wrote ....The british army never left Ireland Pat's keeping his head down as the bullets start flying. Perhaps a salutory lesson to anyone on the list asking or answering what appears to them a straightforward and innocent question... Christine. Researching: OBrien/McEvoy/Slattery /Deery/Bailey...Tipperary.Monoghan.Dublin.

Dear folks I love you all. As an Irish Colleen I will tell you what I know. I love doing geneaology. I love history. I find it fascinating....however my favorite saying which I made up myself is this-----When we learn to love our children more than our ancestors we will have peace in this world.

"Flannery, Sean" wrote: > > The British have never left Ireland! > > Sean > Alright everyone - keep your heads down! The bullets are about to start flying. Pat O'Neill

This is a typical case of people making comments without reference to the same parameters. As in statistics you can prove black is white or white is black depending on where you view an object from . In this case all 3 commentors could be right. All statements could be true . Each should clarify their statements . Gus christine escoriza wrote: > > Ellen wrote ...The british army left Ireland in 1922. > Sean wrote ....The british army never left Ireland > Pat's keeping his head down as the bullets start flying. > > Perhaps a salutory lesson to anyone on the list asking or answering what appears to them a straightforward and innocent question... > > Christine. > Researching: OBrien/McEvoy/Slattery /Deery/Bailey...Tipperary.Monoghan.Dublin. > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > The Fianna, where St Patricks's Day is EVERYDAY! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/

Hear Hear! Tom Foley

The British have never left Ireland! Sean > -----Original Message----- > From: Ellen Naliboff [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] IRISH ARMY IN 1929 ?? > > The British left Ireland 1922. > Ellen > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > Fianna Mailing list maintainer: [email protected] > Home of the Fianna: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ > > > >

The British left Ireland 1922. Ellen

Jim, I would think it would be the Irish army. By 1929 the British military presence in Ireland (at that time the Irish Free State; excluding Northern Ireland) should have been more or less limited to what is known as the "Treaty Ports" of Lough Swilly in the north and Cobh and Bere Haven in the south/southwest of the island. The naval facilities at these ports were retained by Britain according to the terms of the 1922 Anglo-Irish treaty and control of these ports was held by Britain until around 1938, I believe. Therefore, it seems more likely that the military presence around Dublin would have to be that of the Irish Free State. Hope this helps you out. Janelle Braithwait ---------- > From: JAMES BELL <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FIANNA-L] IRISH ARMY IN 1929 ?? > Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 7:42 AM > > MY UNCLE WAS MARRIED BY AN ARMY CHAPLAIN IN DUBLIN IN 1929. > WOULD HE HAVE BEEN IN THE IRISH ARMY OR THE ENGLISH ARMY? > > THIS IS THE LAST CONTACT I HAVE OF HIM. WHO DO YOU THINK I MIGHT CONTACT > FOR MORE INFORMATION. > > JIM > > > ==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > [email protected] > Any queries go here! > List Maintainer: [email protected] > Any complaints go here! > Please turn off your Stationery, Backrounds & HTML! > Messages to list in plain text only! > > >

MY UNCLE WAS MARRIED BY AN ARMY CHAPLAIN IN DUBLIN IN 1929. WOULD HE HAVE BEEN IN THE IRISH ARMY OR THE ENGLISH ARMY? THIS IS THE LAST CONTACT I HAVE OF HIM. WHO DO YOU THINK I MIGHT CONTACT FOR MORE INFORMATION. JIM

from the "Dept of the Taoiseach General Registered files 1991-1997" index NA Reference Number: 96/6/119 Original Ref. Number: S 5775 E Description: Army Equitation School Date: Jan - Mar 1965 records held at the National Archives-Ireland all the best Jenny Fawcett

from the "Dept of the Taoiseach General Registered files 1991-1997" index NA Reference Number: 96/6/17 held at National Archives. Original Ref. Number: S 1762 F Description: National school teachers' pensions: resolutions of Dáil Eireann and representations from individuals Date: Nov 1963 - Mar 1969

taken from the Belfast Gazette [situate Port Fairy, Vict, Aust] 15th APril 1890 "The tenants evicted from the estate of Mr.A.H.Smith Barry-MP- in the town of Tipperary, have migrated to a number of wooden buildings erected in the vicinity, to which has been given the name of New TIpperary. The new town was formally opened yesterday with great ceremony by Mr Michael Davitt, Mr.W.O'Brien-MP- and other members of the Irish Party. The town of Tipperary is now deserted. " all the best Jenny Fawcett Genseek-Genealogy http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/irelinks.htm