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    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Sharon Baker
    3. Doreen, Thank you! That's the first bit of positive information I've seen about the Carrol name so far! I appreciate it. Sharon Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone >From: "Edward Fawcett" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:21:49 +0100 > >Dear Sharon >Had a quick look at some passenger lists I have in a reference book. >Only William CARROLL I could find was on the ship INFANTRY from >Liverpool to New York 29 July 1850. >Best wishes >Doreen Corr Fawcett >-----Original Message----- >From: Sharon Baker <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: 03 September 1999 05:15 >Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN > > > >I'm fairly new to this, and for right now, I'm just hoping to see >messages > >from other people researching the Carrolls. My information is limited > >(right now) to family stories. My Great-Grandfather, William Patrick > >Carroll immigrated from Ireland approx 1840-1850. The story is that his > >name was originally O'Carroll, but he dropped the O upon entering this > >country. The story is that he came from County Clare, but from what I've > >seen, few Carrolls seem to have come from there...they seem to be more in > >other counties in Ireland. My mother's memories (and she was not young >when > >I heard the story, so she might have mis-remembered things) were that he > >entered the county in Boston, bringing with him a wife whom he'd met and > >married on the ship coming over. She wasn't Irish, however, she was >French. > > (Unfortunatly, my mother barely remembered her, except for some >handcrafts > >she'd made. Nor did my mother remember this woman's name). According to >a > >1905 census, my grandfather (also William Patrick Carroll) was born in PA >in > >1870, though he died in Elmira, NY. So until I can get his birth > >certificate, I have way too little to go on. > > > >Sharon Baker > >Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone > >> > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== > >The Fianna, where St Patricks's Day is EVERYDAY! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ > >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > > > > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >Irish Researchers helping Irish Researchers >Irish research in the United States and in Ireland! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ ***Award Winner*** Thanks to Chirho >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    09/03/1999 03:54:50
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Edward Fawcett
    3. Dear Sharon Had a quick look at some passenger lists I have in a reference book. Only William CARROLL I could find was on the ship INFANTRY from Liverpool to New York 29 July 1850. Best wishes Doreen Corr Fawcett -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Baker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 03 September 1999 05:15 Subject: Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN >I'm fairly new to this, and for right now, I'm just hoping to see messages >from other people researching the Carrolls. My information is limited >(right now) to family stories. My Great-Grandfather, William Patrick >Carroll immigrated from Ireland approx 1840-1850. The story is that his >name was originally O'Carroll, but he dropped the O upon entering this >country. The story is that he came from County Clare, but from what I've >seen, few Carrolls seem to have come from there...they seem to be more in >other counties in Ireland. My mother's memories (and she was not young when >I heard the story, so she might have mis-remembered things) were that he >entered the county in Boston, bringing with him a wife whom he'd met and >married on the ship coming over. She wasn't Irish, however, she was French. > (Unfortunatly, my mother barely remembered her, except for some handcrafts >she'd made. Nor did my mother remember this woman's name). According to a >1905 census, my grandfather (also William Patrick Carroll) was born in PA in >1870, though he died in Elmira, NY. So until I can get his birth >certificate, I have way too little to go on. > >Sharon Baker >Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== FIANNA Mailing List ==== >The Fianna, where St Patricks's Day is EVERYDAY! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/ >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/4404/ > > >

    09/03/1999 02:21:49
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Ellen Naliboff
    3. Do you want the passenger lists? Sound methodology of research is to work back in time. Thus, the arrival (which has better records anyway) is the place to look. Because passenger lists are arranged by port and then chronologically, it's important to know when and where your ancestor arrived. This information can usually be found on Naturalization Records after 1906. The U.S. Federal Census (see National Archives) for 1900, 1910 and 1920 lists the year of immigration, and 1920 lists the year of Naturalization. National Archives staff in Washington. DC, will search the immigration passenger lists up to 1954 if there is an index and if an inquirer can give the full names and ages of the passenger and of accompanying passengers, the port of entry, the vessel, and exact date of arrival. Philadelphia Index starts in 1800, Baltimore, Boston etc. in 1820. New York is indexed for 1820-1847 and after 1897. If the passenger list is not indexed you must supply either the exact date of arrival or the name of the ship on which the person arrived in addition to the facts listed above. Requests for searches should be made on NATF Form 81, Order for Copies of Ship Passenger Arrival Records. You can obtain the NATF Form 81 by providing your name and mailing address [email protected] Be sure to specify "Form 81" and the number of forms you need. The fee is $10.00, payable only when the requested records are found. If the records cannot be found, no payment is required. You can do-it-yourself at the local Family History Centers. The FHL has acquired 99% of National Archives passenger records. There are Family History Centers scattered throughout the world, located in the LDS meeting-houses. The FHCs are generally listed in the local phonebook under Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints with its own phone number. In some communities, Family Search is in the local public library. No charge is made for using the resources at the local FHC except for a rental fee for microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake. No proselytizing is allowed in the FHC. Go to these urls for more information online. http://www.firstct.com/fv/lds1.html http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/immigration/immigrat.html NARA Record Group Number, Microfilm Publication Number and Roll Number of the film that you want. This information is available at the NARA web site at: http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg85.html - for years after ca1891 Not all persons who entered the United States appear on the available passenger lists. Some lists were lost. Some ship captains probably did not record all passengers on the lists for one reason or another. Indexers do not always spell names correctly, often because the original version of the name was illegible. Since no index is 100% accurate, the only way to be certain whether or not a name is in the actual record is to search the record itself. Go to these urls for Frequently Asked Questions about passenger lists. http://www.buffnet.net/~mewexler/shipsfaq.txt http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html#Passenger Here is the url for The National Archives, with links to information available on all ports and the appropriate microfilm series. http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html#portindex Visit the Research Guide to Immigration and Ships Passenger Lists at: http://home.att.net/~arnielang http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/hist.htm is a discussion of passenger lists. Ellen [email protected]

    09/03/1999 10:15:17
    1. [FIANNA-L] re: Who, What, Where, When
    2. Elise Brenner
    3. I am researching any ancestors or descendants of my grandfather WHO: Nicholas Flynn WHAT: He was born March 4, 1881, the son of John Flynn and Bridget Campbell. John was a farmer and Bridget registered his birth on April 19, 1881. He married Sarah McNicholas around 1918 in New York City. WHERE: Boley, Bawnboy, County Cavan (Boley was spelled Bolea on the birth register) WHEN: He left Ireland on April 17, 1909 and became a citizen September 20, 1915

    09/03/1999 09:20:57
    1. [FIANNA-L] [Fwd: Brookfield, Belfast]]
    2. Gus Morrow
    3. > From: [email protected] > > If there ever was a Sydney Street, it did not exist in1965 but there was a > Sydney Street West that ran from178 Snugville street to 110 Cambrai Street > off the Shankill. > > It was a very long street (probably still is) with houses 1 to 181 on one > side and 2 to 92 on the other. For what it's worth 22 to 30 was the Milford > Clothing Company. > This isn't a lot of use for the original query but might be of general > interest. Re Brookfield, I have no idea about that one > The vast majority of these terraces were for workers in the flax/ linen > industry and there were a couple of large mills around this part of the > Shankill. My own Great Grandmother worked in them as did her children who > survived into adulthood including my Gran. My mother "escaped" to Gallaghers > Fag Factory. > My Great Gran was a "perm winder" for the mill experts although I have no > idea what that was. > Ian > > -

    09/02/1999 04:29:31
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Sharon Baker
    3. I'm fairly new to this, and for right now, I'm just hoping to see messages from other people researching the Carrolls. My information is limited (right now) to family stories. My Great-Grandfather, William Patrick Carroll immigrated from Ireland approx 1840-1850. The story is that his name was originally O'Carroll, but he dropped the O upon entering this country. The story is that he came from County Clare, but from what I've seen, few Carrolls seem to have come from there...they seem to be more in other counties in Ireland. My mother's memories (and she was not young when I heard the story, so she might have mis-remembered things) were that he entered the county in Boston, bringing with him a wife whom he'd met and married on the ship coming over. She wasn't Irish, however, she was French. (Unfortunatly, my mother barely remembered her, except for some handcrafts she'd made. Nor did my mother remember this woman's name). According to a 1905 census, my grandfather (also William Patrick Carroll) was born in PA in 1870, though he died in Elmira, NY. So until I can get his birth certificate, I have way too little to go on. Sharon Baker Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    09/02/1999 03:13:17
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. I'm searching for: 1) Hugh BRADLEY and Rose (BRADLEY) BRADLEY. Family story: A Bradley married a Bradley; they came from different parts of Ireland and met on the ship to America. She was called "the Rose of the boat" because of her beautiful voice. I don't know where they married. They are in Norristown PA by August 1848, when their first child was born. Other Bradleys there came from Ballynascreen, Derry, so I think either Hugh or Rose did too. By 1858 they lived in Phoenixville PA. They died in 1906 and 1907. Hugh's PA death certificate gives parents' names as Eugene (?) Bradley and Sarah Wall. Rose's has no mother's name, but father is William Bradley. DOB for Hugh on death cert. is 15 Aug 1815, probably ten years too early, since the 1850 census gives their ages as 24 and 23, and the 1870 and 1880 censuses agree. DOB for Rose given as 11 Oct 1826, which is consistent. (Information on PA death certificates is unreliable. )Hugh told his grandchildren that someone in his family came to Ireland from France at the time of the Revolution. One of the Wild Geese returning? 2) Patrick CALLAHAN and Margaret (GLANCY) CALLAHAN. Family story: The Callahans came from Cork; landed first in Canada; told of sailing up the St. Lawrence River. I think they left Ireland in 1846 or 1847; daughter's baptismal record says she was born 22 Feb 1846 but not baptized until 6 Sept 1847, in Phoenixville PA. I haven't found them in the 1850 census; in 1860, they list a son William, 18, as born in PA, but I think he was born in Ireland, and if so, he sailed with them. Patrick died 29 March 1887 in Phoenixville, where he'd lived next to his daughter, Mary Moran. Margaret was still alive in Sept. 1887. Mary Ann BRADLEY, daughter of Hugh and Rose, married Hugh CALLAHAN, son of Patrick and Margaret. They are my great-grandparents. Karen Barth

    09/02/1999 01:49:51
    1. [FIANNA-L] ship arr. to England
    2. Pat Lewis
    3. Would anyone have any information regarding ship arrivals TO England in the 1914-1915 period from the USA. I am trying to locate information regrding a trip my Father and Gfather made during that period of time from NYC to England,possibly to visit relatives after my Fathers Mother died. A search for passports for these people have yeilded no information from the US passport office, and I am hoping there is a list of ship arrivals or films of ship arrivals to England durning 1914-1915. Anyone with a clue or answer please contact me at [email protected] Thank you. Pat

    09/02/1999 10:51:51
    1. RE: [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Terri Sprague
    3. Who? Patrick Donald/Daniel Riley What? I know that he was born in 1880. I know that he came to the US in 1898, when he was 18 years old. That he had been in a seminary in Ireland before he came to the US. I also know the when he met my Great-Grandmother in 1918, he had no living family. Where? According to my Great-Aunt, his youngest daughter, he came from County Clare. She doesn't know the town, or who his parents were. When? I know that he married my Great-Grandmother in 1919, in Nebraska. He died April 21, 1929 in Lincoln, Nebraska, while stringing power lines. Terri Sprague [email protected] Fremont, CA USA -----Original Message----- Answer the questions WHO? are you searching WHAT? all do you know about them WHERE? do they come from WHEN? were they there This is a roundup scheduled through Labor Day weekend....... Summer is almost over, let's get started in genealogy again Lists have slowed down, time for some activity

    09/02/1999 10:43:32
    1. [FIANNA-L] WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN
    2. Joe & Laura Schmidt
    3. Answer the questions WHO? are you searching WHAT? all do you know about them WHERE? do they come from WHEN? were they there This is a roundup scheduled through Labor Day weekend....... Summer is almost over, let's get started in genealogy again Lists have slowed down, time for some activity

    09/02/1999 10:22:10
    1. [FIANNA-L] Email Manners to Share
    2. Joe & Laura Schmidt
    3. Have you ever gotten an email that had a subject line that was totally irrelevant to the message text? Or how about the reply to an email that had been replied to 5 times with no one bothering to cut and paste just the relevant information? Well there is an easy way to fix this problem!!!! Every time you send a mail out, before hitting that send button LOOK at your mail first! Does the subject line pertain to your mail? Will it make an experienced or newbie genealogist interested enough to open your mail? Are you replying to someone else's mail? Have you taken the time to cut out the parts that aren't relevant to your reply? Have you signed your name with your email address at the end of the mail too? This makes it easier for someone to reply to you later, even if you aren't on the list anymore. Personally I search other lists archives and send mail to individuals who have posted even in 1996. Have had a lot of success too! Try this tip, you will be surprised how much you might like it. Laura Schmidt [email protected]

    09/01/1999 09:30:10
    1. [FIANNA-L] Huguenots
    2. conaught
    3. Ancestory.com has a new database that is free to look at for the next 10 days. I know there are quite a few on the list with French Huguenot ancestors. Thought you would enjoy viewing this database. Slan go foill, Margaret (Mairead) <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> Virginia Huguenot Refugees, 1700 Religious beliefs lead many European residents to seek new lives in British North America in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. This database contains the ship listings of a number of Huguenot refugees who traveled to Virginia in 1700. The two ships, the Mary and Ann and the Peter and Anthony, arrived in James City on the 12th of August and 20th of September respectively. Each record reveals the adult passenger's name and number of minors in their company. In some cases the person's previous occupation and residence is provided. To those seeking Virginian and Huguenot ancestors, this can be a useful collection. Bibliography: Anonymous. "Two Ships to Virginia." Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3953.htm

    08/31/1999 09:45:41
    1. [FIANNA-L] 1831 Emigrants from Ireland to USA
    2. Joan Fawcett
    3. taken from the Launceston Advertiser [Tasmania-Australia] 15th August 1831 A great number of the peasantry from the surrounding counties are presently in town, preparing to emigrate to America. We understand that two vessels,now in our port ready to sail, will contain as many passengers as they are allowed to carry.. A great many of the tenantry of Mr Kelly, of Castle Kelly, are amongst the number. Galway Independent.

    08/31/1999 03:24:23
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] 1831 Emigrants from Ireland to USA - Bex
    2. We had a BEX family from England who eloped and went to Australia because her father would not allow her to marry her intended because he was keeper of the hounds on her father's estate. The emigrated first Australia, thence to Syracuse, New York. He became a taxidermist and taught his wife the trade. She inherited $40,000 U.S. from her mother's estate in 1910. dick barr Syracuse, New York, USA

    08/31/1999 12:40:42
    1. [FIANNA-L] New Issue Posted - Genealogy Magazine
    2. Rick Roberts
    3. THE GLOBAL GAZETTE, Canada's Family History Magazine. Vol. III, No. 14, August 27, 1999 The newest issue of The Global Gazette is online and ready for readers. Of particular notice is a new column called IRISH ORIGINS written by Kyle Betit of "The Irish At Home And Abroad" fame. The Global Gazette is a free online magazine which is written by volunteers and sponsored by Global Genealogy Supply. To check it out, click on: http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm AOL Users hotlink:<a href="http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm"> http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm </a>. SUMMARY OF ARTICLES IN THIS ISSUE: IRISH ORIGINS Irish Research: Suggestions For the Beginner. Many researchers who begin Irish genealogical research have the goal in mind of finding out from where in Ireland the immigrant ancestor came. Usually the beginner soon discovers that approaches to research need to be tailored to the social status of the ancestor and the time period of immigration. Read this week's IRISH ORIGINS to find out more.http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm EDITOR'S CORNER Starting this week the Global Gazette Goes Weekly. Here's your chance to influence which Irish Origins topics are published first. Announcing another new Canadiana historical reprint from Global Heritage Press. Exciting addition to GLOBAL FAMILY HISTORY FAIR '99. Two respected members of the heritage community pass away - Gary Hill and Opal Meta Howey. Home Children's Database Online. Lots of new announcements of events,conferences and family reunions. http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm EAST COAST KIN (Canada) This column is the first in a series dedicated to encouraging genealogists to focus a concerted effort to include their female ancestors, as well as the male lines. The general principles discussed about avenues to search for female ancestors -- conventional and otherwise -- will apply world-wide, not just to Canadian Maritime families. http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm POST-1901 CENSUS NEWS (Canada) Gordon A. Watts reports the latest news and brings everyone up to speed on the project's new developments. The Post-1901 Census Project is a growing grassroots movement to reverse a Canadian law which denies access to Post- 1901 Canadian Census records for ever. http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm ROVING REPORTERS In a column titled "PERSI:The Information Jackpot for Genealogists", professional researcher Joan M. Benner, a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists provides an outline of what the PERSI is, why it is important and how to use it. http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm TECH TALK Global Genealogy Supply announces new "Price Parity Program" on Family Tree Maker products which means you pay the American price in Canadian Dollars = BIG, BIG Savings! Check out a review of the new New LOYALIST CD From Family Tree Maker. Also some great Tech Tips from NeTiNSTiNCT... New Virus for Christmas, download newer versions of Netscape and Internet Explorer and a shortcut to empty your "recycle bin". To find out more: http://globalgenealogy.com/gaz33.htm ***** To "Subscribe" to a notification service for The Global Gazette, click on http://globalgenealogy.com/gazette.htm which is the hot link for The Global Gazette and then select the "Subscribe" button on the left hand side of the screen. There is no charge for The Global Gazette as it is written by volunteers and sponsored by Global Genealogy Supply. **** Rick Roberts, Publisher The Global Gazette, Canada's Family History Magazine http://globalgenealogy.com/gazette.htm

    08/28/1999 07:47:51
    1. [FIANNA-L] Just a Reminder
    2. Joe & Laura Schmidt
    3. If you subscribed to the list with one email address like [email protected] and you use a different address like [email protected] to try to send to the list it will not make it on the list. RootsWeb is a closed email list forum. You MUST send mail from the address to which you are subscribed from. Otherwise it will never make it here unless the maintainer happens to catch the bounce and forwards it. Also when you are unsubscribing you must use the address from which you are subscribed!

    08/28/1999 11:37:59
    1. [FIANNA-L] Gertrude Catherine Mary Maloy
    2. abbiem
    3. Hello Everyone, Does anyone out there have any info on my Grandmother "Gertrude Catherine Mary Maloy". I'm not sure if it's "Maloy or Malloy". Born in New York on Dec 17, 1908. She married William Van Vorst. I'll assume around 1934 He was born Apr.16, 1913. He was also born in N.Y. Her family lived in Corona Long Island across the street from the World's Fair. Her sister Catherine married a Buckley I believe. They had two children. The girl was named Kathleen I believe. The boy was named Patrick. My second cousins. First cousins to my mother Gertrude(called Trudy). Trudy married George Hodgkinson. They had Four children. Any info would be helpful. Thank You AbbieM.(Gail Hodgkinson) Van Vorst

    08/25/1999 02:13:44
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] Maps In Ulster
    2. Ellen Naliboff
    3. The major source of Irish topographical maps since 1800 is the Ordnance Survey, which covered all of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. Maps were produced from the survey in series of 1 inch, 6 inches, and 25 inches to the mile. Series have been revised and published at different times. Ordnance Survey maps of greater detail (up to 10 feet to the mile) have been produced for most Irish cities. A list of Ordnance Survey district special and tourist maps, 1861-1939 / compiled by Nigel N. James. Found in Family History Library Catalog under: Ireland - Maps - Inventories, registers, catalogs. Ellen

    08/22/1999 09:55:09
    1. [FIANNA-L] Maps In Ulster
    2. Can some kind soul tell me where I can buy detailed maps for Antrim,Londonderry and Tyrone for the period 1700-1760? I need townland ones showing house locations, tenant/owners and cemeteries, if these exist. Please advise the name of maps to order,price, and the name and address of the seller. This info will be very much appreciated.

    08/21/1999 02:01:37
    1. Re: [FIANNA-L] Military Personnel Records - RECEIVED
    2. Larry, Thanks for the info. Turns out his name is on the wall at MAKATI CITY CEMETERY, I have a photo around here somewhere. I haven't checked into anything in Hawaii. Would there be a duplicate listing? Where would I check in Hawaii? Desiree

    08/20/1999 03:30:36