It took Ellish’s sad encounter with FTDNA over “Family Finder” testing to prompt me to comment. I suspect that the FTDNA staff on “Family Finder” duty is not up to the standard of those doing the STR and SNP Y-chromosome work. That Y-DNA crew has pretty much established the industry standard and I’ve used every level of that testing on a couple of different projects. As for autosomal testing, in my opinion 23andMe offers the best autosomal + package with their basic genealogy (not health) test. Without any separate charge, they bundle: (1.) a limited, but decent version of a Y-DNA test (based on SNPs, something you can’t get with FTDNA except as a “Big Y” customer); (2.) a good autosomal test that, based on some family experience, appears to be considerably more sensitive to ethnic patterns than at least the Ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com/> work and; (3.) a MtDNA test that will fit you into one of the major groupings. All for about the same price as Ancestry's and FTDNA’s autosomal-only offerings. 23andMe is primarily a scientific (albeit with a focus on health-related issues) venture and I believe their basic test benefits from that focus. I realize that with Ellish’s own analysis, the included YDNA offering would have been of no interest, but I still think the 23andMe offering is superior. Jack Fallin Walnut Creek, CA > > 4. More FTDNA exploits (Eilish Gmail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:26:15 +1000 > From: Eilish Gmail <eilish7@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -More FTDNA exploits > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <06ead8a6-cca9-093b-fbe1-5ad13ef79943@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Morning Listers, > > Well, well, well. Because of my rant yesterday about my misadventures > with FTDNA, I have now received an email from FTDNA because somebody on > the forum allegedly forwarded my post to them. > > I now have an apology over the incident and an offer to send two free > tests. But nobody signed this email, although they are using the same > reference number used during the ongoing debacle. So I don't know who I > am talking to, although they make reference to the two people who were > mishandling this case. So, Mr/Ms Nobody has apologised. > > Now, who could have reported this, or alternatively, *who is > **watching**this list?* If I'd posted my frustrations months ago, I may > not have had to endure the inept customer service that FTDNA provide to > their Paypal customers. And they have access to my full post because > they know I have a Y-DNA kit. > > Curiouser and Curiouser! > > Eilish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 188 > ***********************************************