I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. In March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to three 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is anyone researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or relationships between them all?! Barbara --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

> I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). Barbara, Did you see this link to the 1641 Deposition of the Rathmoran Baxters, found whilst searching for a William Elliot of Rathmoran, High Sherrif of Fermanagh in 1694? http://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/41653.html <http://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/41653.html> Carole Elliott. > > > > >

When I used to take Family Tree magazine I saw a letter from Sir Joseph STAMER who was enquiring about the SEDBOROUGH holdings in Fermanagh. His Ancestor was descended from a union of his early planter family and a SEDBOROUGH. That was over 30 years ago, before Internet and on line records. There are still a number of BAXTER entries in the Fermanagh Lakeland Telephone Directory. Ranging from Enniskillen, Tempo, Ballinamallard, and other places. STAMERs left before the Famine according to Sir Joseph. Mount SEDBOROUGH is shown on the local maps, was the seat of that family. Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 06:32, The Wimble <wwimble@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). > With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in > this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. In > March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to three > 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a > tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems > from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & > William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b > 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is anyone > researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or > relationships between them all?!

Hi Viola, Do you happen to know the surname of the family who married into the Sedboroughs, he was enquiring about? I have never seen Mount Sedborough on modern maps, but have seen "Mount Sedborough Lough" marked. But I know it is located in modern townland of Rateen, and is owned by the MAYNE's family due to the marriage of Barbara Sedborough to John Mayne. https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/clankelly/clones-clankelly-portion/ coolnamarrow/rateen/ Rateen neighbours the townland of Rathmoran previously known as Lisnamoran which according to local oral history had a very impressive castle built on it and seat of the old "Ardmagh" lands. Not to be confused with the later "Armagh Manor" which restored the use of this old name and was/is seated at Ballagh. The ruins of the castle can be seen marked on the 1st Edition OS maps made in the 1830's. I have heard stories of how the castle came to be in ruins, but never found any evidence in records and would be very interested if these townlands are mentioned in records prior to 1830. Also, another thing I find curious is that old records refer to "Mount Mount Sedborough" and I would love to know why the use of double Mount. Clive On Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:32:42 IST Viola Wiggins wrote: > When I used to take Family Tree magazine I saw a letter from Sir Joseph > STAMER who was enquiring about the SEDBOROUGH holdings in Fermanagh. His > Ancestor was descended from a union of his early planter family and a > SEDBOROUGH. That was over 30 years ago, before Internet and on line > records. There are still a number of BAXTER entries in the Fermanagh > Lakeland Telephone Directory. Ranging from Enniskillen, Tempo, > Ballinamallard, and other places. STAMERs left before the Famine according > to Sir Joseph. Mount SEDBOROUGH is shown on the local maps, was the seat of > that family. Viola > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 12 Jun 2018, at 06:32, The Wimble <wwimble@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > > > I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It > > is > > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest > > son > > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). > > With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in > > this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. > > In March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to > > three 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William > > BAXTER was a tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My > > family stems from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary > > Johnson/ Egan) & William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick > > b 1755, James b 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen > > townland. Is anyone researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any > > thoughts on connections or relationships between them all?! > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb > .com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb > .com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Clive It was a STAMER who married a SEDBOROUGH c1635/40 from memory. The Sir J passed away c2000. I'm almost certain Mt SEDBOROUGH is in the Philips but I'll check it out again. I gave up the search when his nephew sent a letter announcing Sir J's death. I got a photo copy the Mt S map from PRONI and Posted it to him. I remember that a parcel of land was part of the Dowry. Vi

I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived in the USA in 1846, On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:32 AM, The Wimble <wwimble@iinet.net.au> wrote: > I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). > With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in > this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. > In > March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to > three > 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a > tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems > from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & > William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b > 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is > anyone > researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or > relationships between them all?! Barbara > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Kathleen, In order to help you researching your ancestor, we would need to have more information you have on his Irish Origins before he left Ireland. For instance, There were 9 Charles BAXTERs in the whole of Ireland in the 1901 Census which is the first surviving records of households for the whole of Ireland. Where was your Charles BAXTER from before he left Ireland 1846? What age, religion was he? Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 13:07, Kathleen Harrison <baxterlittle@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived > in the USA in 1846,

Kathleen, If the answer to Viola`s question is that their religion was C of I, you may want to look at the Baxters in 1901 Tattenabuddagh. In house # 19, William Baxter was living with his wife Sarah Ann (Johnson) and five children. (Sarah's parents were William Johnson/Ann Jones) I believe Sarah is related to the Johnsons living in house #5 in Killyfole 1901. I think Anne there was Anne Lang, Sarah's mother. So in #5 Killyfole 1901, widow Anne Johnston was living with a son and two grand-daughters. Also living with Anne Johnston were three Parsons who likely were related to her, including a married mother and two children. These two children were born in America. And living in the same house was an unmarried Thomas Baxter. Maybe just a wild guess but one never knows. James -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:44 AM To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: BAXTER forebears Kathleen, In order to help you researching your ancestor, we would need to have more information you have on his Irish Origins before he left Ireland. For instance, There were 9 Charles BAXTERs in the whole of Ireland in the 1901 Census which is the first surviving records of households for the whole of Ireland. Where was your Charles BAXTER from before he left Ireland 1846? What age, religion was he? Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 13:07, Kathleen Harrison <baxterlittle@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived > in the USA in 1846,

My Baxters were Roman Catholic, Three came to America in the 1840s and early 1850s, John, James, Charles. They settled in Allamakee County, furthest northeastern county in Iowa. They left four brothers behind, Robert, Patrick, William and Thomas. One tombstone says Drumliff, Lisnaskea. John went back to Ireland when his wife died, remarried in Boston area when he returned to the USA. All the brothers who came to Iowa had an eldest son named John as well as a daughter named Sarah, so, duh, I suspect their parents of being John and Sarah. I have a DNA match, third cousin level, whose grandmother was Marie Baxter Dion, Worcester, Massachusetts area, and I am hoping she is a descendant or at least related to that John. I love DNA but it sure does not provide all the answers you wish you had! On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:19 AM James Mullan <jamesmullan@rogers.com> wrote: > Kathleen, > If the answer to Viola`s question is that their religion was C of I, you > may > want to look at the Baxters in 1901 Tattenabuddagh. > In house # 19, William Baxter was living with his wife Sarah Ann (Johnson) > and five children. (Sarah's parents were William Johnson/Ann Jones) I > believe Sarah is related to the Johnsons living in house #5 in Killyfole > 1901. I think Anne there was Anne Lang, Sarah's mother. So in #5 > Killyfole > 1901, widow Anne Johnston was living with a son and two grand-daughters. > Also living with Anne Johnston were three Parsons who likely were related > to > her, including a married mother and two children. These two children were > born in America. And living in the same house was an unmarried Thomas > Baxter. > > Maybe just a wild guess but one never knows. > > James > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Viola Wiggins > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:44 AM > To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and > surrounding counties in Ireland > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: BAXTER forebears > > Kathleen, > In order to help you researching your ancestor, we would need to have more > information you have on his Irish Origins before he left Ireland. For > instance, There were 9 Charles BAXTERs in the whole of Ireland in the 1901 > Census which is the first surviving records of households for the whole of > Ireland. > Where was your Charles BAXTER from before he left Ireland 1846? What age, > religion was he? > Viola > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 12 Jun 2018, at 13:07, Kathleen Harrison <baxterlittle@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who > arrived > > in the USA in 1846, > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >