Am grasping at straws trying to reasonably identify somewhere to begin looking in Ireland ... 1820's: several siblings born to John & Deborah Irwin, said to be in Fermanagh. The family emigrated in 1831 > Canada, stayed in Montreal 3 years. Spent the next 30-odd years in Ontario, during which time my ancestor Francis Irwin (3rd great uncle) founded the 'town' of Belmore in Turnberry Twp., Ontario. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the town *might *be named after where the family left in Ireland? So maybe search in the vicinity of Belmore Mountain, outside of Enniskillen? OR.... around Castle Coole, which has been the seat of the Earls of Belmore for many moons .... thoughts? I'm attending the Ulster Historical Foundation's wonderful research tour in early September .... PRONI's absolutely fantastic, but I've learned it's pretty fruitless to search unless one knows of a place to begin looking .... :)) Thank you! Jan -- Jan Clizer - Painting Scotland e: jan@janclizerpainting.com gallery: http://www.janclizerpainting.com blog: http://janclizerpainting.blogspot.com tel: US 1-208-771-2912
Jan, Belmore Mountain, makes sense to me because my Crozier's of Aghakeeran (Boho) is slap Bang on the side of that Mountain. They were married to Irwin and Britten/an, of Boho. Naming patterns of Richard, James and John, for boys and Anne, Mary, Marjorie and Elizabeth for the girls. My GFather John, was born in Derrygiff, but his father was born in Boho and they are all buried in Boho Churchyard. I do know that my Uncle, Richard Benjamin Crozier, went to join relative's in Canada in the early 1900s. He took sick there and my father, Jack, was despatched to nurse him. Dad took a job in a livery stable to earn the money to pay for R B's medication and Doctor's fees. I do not know where they were in Canada. They returned to Ireland just before the outbreak of WW1. I was not listening close enough when I was a small child and my Uncle , Aunt and my Father spoke about their childhood and relatives. Viola
My KERR - ARMSTRONG ancestors from Fermanagh settled near Brussels, Morris township, Huron County, Ontario, very close to Turnberry. They were somehow related to an IRVINE family. (I am working on that!) My question is whether IRWIN and IRVINE were more or less interchangeable back then, in Canada if not Ireland, or were they definitely distinct Irish families? Thanks. Warren Dean > On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Jan Clizer <jaclizer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Am grasping at straws trying to reasonably identify somewhere to begin > looking in Ireland ... > > 1820's: several siblings born to John & Deborah Irwin, said to be in > Fermanagh. The family emigrated in 1831 > Canada, stayed in Montreal 3 > years. Spent the next 30-odd years in Ontario, during which time my > ancestor Francis Irwin (3rd great uncle) founded the 'town' of Belmore in > Turnberry Twp., Ontario. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the town *might *be > named after where the family left in Ireland? So maybe search in the > vicinity of Belmore Mountain, outside of Enniskillen? > > OR.... around Castle Coole, which has been the seat of the Earls of Belmore > for many moons .... thoughts? > > I'm attending the Ulster Historical Foundation's wonderful research tour in > early September .... PRONI's absolutely fantastic, but I've learned it's > pretty fruitless to search unless one knows of a place to begin looking > .... :)) > > Thank you! > > Jan > > -- > > Jan Clizer - Painting Scotland > > e: jan@janclizerpainting.com > gallery: http://www.janclizerpainting.com > blog: http://janclizerpainting.blogspot.com > > tel: US 1-208-771-2912 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
G’day Warren Irwin and Irvine were interchangeable, along with Irving, Urwin and a few other variants (Erwin?). A lot of the interchangeability will have to do with the accent of the person speaking and how the clerk recording the information hears the name. I have the mid-19th century case of a cousin from Somerset in England, having her given names of Emma Jane recorded as Imogen by a clerk in New South Wales! If you say Emma Jane with a strong Zumerzet accent, you can readily understand how the clerk heard Imogen. Also, bear in mind that in the early 19th century, the clerks wouldn’t having been copying from other documents but would have been receiving the information orally. Regards David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Warren Dean Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:01 AM To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: thoughts, please . . . My KERR - ARMSTRONG ancestors from Fermanagh settled near Brussels, Morris township, Huron County, Ontario, very close to Turnberry. They were somehow related to an IRVINE family. (I am working on that!) My question is whether IRWIN and IRVINE were more or less interchangeable back then, in Canada if not Ireland, or were they definitely distinct Irish families? Thanks. Warren Dean --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus