If you cover all travel expenses -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:24 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 192 When replying to a Digest change the subject line & delete most of the backquotes. Supply *all* the information you can including Full Name, Religion, Dates and Places. * http://www.igp-web.com/fermanagh/Links.htm Today's Topics: 1. Re: What to call land (Killyfole and District Development Association) 2. Re: What to call land (Viola Wiggins) 3. Visit to Manor Hamilton (Stephen Maguire) 4. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton (Dave H) 5. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton (Michael Montgomery) 6. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton (Dave H) 7. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton.. CLOONCLARE PARISH TOWNLANDS (Dave H) 8. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. (Dave H) 9. County: Leitrim, Civil Parish: Cloonclare (Dave H) 10. Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. (Shirley Smith) 11. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. (Dave H) 12. Re: What to call land (Anne Sterling) 13. Re: What to call land (Anne Sterling) 14. Re: Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons inManorhamilton. (Olivia O'Dolan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:37:22 +0100 From: Killyfole and District Development Association <gold@fermanaghroots.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land To: Kerrie Alexander <kerriea@aapt.net.au>, fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2442522.WtOK6hHVni@p500> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kerrie, There are many family/local names for places within a townland, usually describing the physical features or features which used to exist there. Examples are "Mill Field", "Well Field". They can also be named after a previous owner. However, as families move away from farming, these names are being lost. There was a very interesting survey of field names carried out in County Meath which I would love to see in Fermanagh - http://www.meathfieldnames.com It records approximately 24,700 field names across 850 townlands. The most common names are meadow and bottoms, indeed I have a "Flat Bottoms" on my own farm. Other than that you could use the GV plot numbers to identify a particular area. Modern day farming requires the use of a number to identify a field, however this number is copyrighted to the Department of Agriculture and would be very difficult to find out. Clive On Saturday 23 May 2015 11:05:53 Kerrie Alexander via wrote: > Hi > > Could someone tell me what the correct term is for the different pieces of > land within a townland. Are they plots, portions or is there another term I > should use. > > Many thanks > Kerrie > Australia > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:57:58 +0100 From: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land To: "Kerrie Alexander" <kerriea@aapt.net.au>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C579FF2366F64227AFD24D0112C0AD66@HP93792624821> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Kerrie The usual term used is "Lot" or "Plot" in Griffith's Valuation. Those could consist of Fields in Farmland. In the Griffith's Maps each field is marked and numbered and it's measurement and value is noted. "House Offices and Land" means A dwelling with outhouse[s] and land measured in Acres, Roods and Perches/Poles.[a. r. p.] 1 perch/pole = 5.5 yards. "House and Garden" means a house with a small area of land for a garden usually noted as Roods and perches/poles. [r. p. ] Annual Rateable Valuation [ARV] of Buildings are costed on their own and will give an indication of their size.They range from 5 Shillings [5s od] to 4 pounds [?4 0s 0p] Hope that helps Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 06:41:51 -0400 From: Stephen Maguire <steve839@gmail.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton To: "fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <243827F1-133F-4DCC-A8FB-38819E4309FE@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I have confirmed my plans to visit Ireland in September to search for traces of Andrew Maguire ( b Abt 1818) and Rebecca McKee ( b Abt 1822) . Rebecca's parents were Robert McKee and Margaret Stevenson. Andrew and Rebecca arrived in Boston in 1850, with my great grandfather in the womb and their two young children, Robert and Rebecca in tow. Undoubtedly they were fleeing the great famine. Another great grandmother, Susan Walker (b abt 1851), was the daughter of Archibald Walker and Ellen Dean. Suzanne came to Boston Abt 1871 from Donegal. I have yet to discover any records at all of her time in Ireland. A single roots.Ireland record find, Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare parish, listed their residence at Manorhamilton. I will spend 3 nights in Manorhamilton in September. I understand that Maguire and Stevenson are still popular names in the Manorhamilton area. Another piece of evidence is a strong Y DNA link with Carl Maguire who has traced his genealogy to nearby villages in Fermanagh. I will visit the areas that Carl has traced to as well, his discovered Maguire's Pub, and a certain legendary 7 arch stone bridge. Prior to arriving in Manorhamilton I will spend 4 days in Dublin. Two of the Dublin days will be spent at the COI Representative Church a Body Library, where Cloonclare COI records are housed. After Manorhamilton I will spent a few nights in Belfast where one day will be spent at PRONI. For me, the trip will be a success even if I don't uncover any additional records. Just to walk the streets where these ancestors roamed and scan the hills and rivers that they beheld will be meaningful. The prospect of finding any additional information or perhaps even living relatives would be the head on the Guinness pint! If anyone comes across any traces of the folks mentioned above, in their own research, please send me a note. Stephen J. Maguire Send from A Mobile Device ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 12:51:14 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <556069B2.5020505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed You'd need more than Manorhamilton! Cloonclare is miles out of town, in the sticks... halfway between Glenfarne and Manorhamilton with 87 townlands in the Parish! On 23/05/2015 11:41, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare parish, listed their residence at Manorhamilton --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 22:21:28 +1000 From: Michael Montgomery <mkmonteez@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton To: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com>, Fermanagh-Gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAOaKvXEy9A0bRT7Gb0+63LV5fFyaCN5x1GZ1O8mwWbYzdaO1Bg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The COI in Manorhamilton is Cloonclare Church. On top of The hill On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > You'd need more than Manorhamilton! > > Cloonclare is miles out of town, in the sticks... halfway between > Glenfarne and Manorhamilton with 87 townlands in the Parish! > > > > > > On 23/05/2015 11:41, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > > Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare parish, listed > their residence at Manorhamilton > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:46:36 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton To: Michael Montgomery <mkmonteez@gmail.com>, Fermanagh-Gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <556076AC.1020709@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Yes I have it photographed on IGP... On 23/05/2015 13:21, Michael Montgomery wrote: > The COI in Manorhamilton is Cloonclare Church. On top of The hill > > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Dave H via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > You'd need more than Manorhamilton! > > Cloonclare is miles out of town, in the sticks... halfway between > Glenfarne and Manorhamilton with 87 townlands in the Parish! > > > > > > On 23/05/2015 11:41, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > > Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare > parish, listed their residence at Manorhamilton > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 14:03:30 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton.. CLOONCLARE PARISH TOWNLANDS To: Michael Montgomery <mkmonteez@gmail.com>, Fermanagh-Gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <55607AA2.9050804@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Cloonclare RC parish ...which often is very similar to C of I parishes http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/cloonclare.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 15:34:18 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <55608FEA.3000401@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Not sure how much Leitrim info is/will be allowed of Fermanagh Gold.... Other than Manorhamilton as an address... was there a townland mentioned?? DH County: Leitrim Civil Parish: Manorhamilton Townland: Munneygashel,Glenboy Related Surname Info: Interested in sharing information about any Stephensons in Manorhamilton. Our ancestor, Thomas Stephenson 1814-1901 (son of William), m. 1) Elizabeth Thompson and 2) Jane Fletcher and had 17 children. He lived Munneygashel. Most of the 17 children emigrated to Canada or Australia. Interested in connecting earlier lines of Stephensons in Manorhamilton to one another. On 23/05/2015 11:41, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > Hello, > > I have confirmed my plans to visit Ireland in September to search for traces of Andrew Maguire ( b Abt 1818) and Rebecca McKee ( b Abt 1822) . Rebecca's parents were Robert McKee and Margaret Stevenson. Andrew and Rebecca arrived in Boston in 1850, with my great grandfather in the womb and their two young children, Robert and Rebecca in tow. Undoubtedly they were fleeing the great famine. > > Another great grandmother, Susan Walker (b abt 1851), was the daughter of Archibald Walker and Ellen Dean. Suzanne came to Boston Abt 1871 from Donegal. I have yet to discover any records at all of her time in Ireland. > > A single roots.Ireland record find, Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare parish, listed their residence at Manorhamilton. I will spend 3 nights in Manorhamilton in September. I understand that Maguire and Stevenson are still popular names in the Manorhamilton area. Another piece of evidence is a strong Y DNA link with Carl Maguire who has traced his genealogy to nearby villages in Fermanagh. I will visit the areas that Carl has traced to as well, his discovered Maguire's Pub, and a certain legendary 7 arch stone bridge. > > Prior to arriving in Manorhamilton I will spend 4 days in Dublin. Two of the Dublin days will be spent at the COI Representative Church a Body Library, where Cloonclare COI records are housed. After Manorhamilton I will spent a few nights in Belfast where one day will be spent at PRONI. > > For me, the trip will be a success even if I don't uncover any additional records. Just to walk the streets where these ancestors roamed and scan the hills and rivers that they beheld will be meaningful. The prospect of finding any additional information or perhaps even living relatives would be the head on the Guinness pint! > > If anyone comes across any traces of the folks mentioned above, in their own research, please send me a note. > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 15:43:00 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD County: Leitrim, Civil Parish: Cloonclare To: "fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <556091F4.2050309@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pretty useless as they don't give Religion but.... County: Leitrim Civil Parish: cloonclare Townland: munakill After 10 years of searching, have located 7 first cousins of my father's in New York. They are the children of May Maguire of Kilmakerrill and Munakill and grandchildren of Thomas Maguire and Annie Gilmartin. My father is also Thomas Maguire, son of John Patrick and grandson of Thomas and Annie. ========================================== Probably best to leave LEITRIM posts on FG at that. Sorry Chris for trespassing across county line! DH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 15:21:29 GMT From: "Shirley Smith" <smith_shirley_ross@juno.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20150523.112129.5428.2@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi, Dave, I think if you just write Off Topic in the subject line, nobody would object to your helping Stephen on the Fermanagh-Gold list. Any of us could find out we need info about that area, too. Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 15:34:18 +0100 Not sure how much Leitrim info is/will be allowed of Fermanagh Gold.... Other than Manorhamilton as an address... was there a townland mentioned?? DH County: Leitrim Civil Parish: Manorhamilton Townland: Munneygashel,Glenboy Related Surname Info: Interested in sharing information about any Stephensons in Manorhamilton. Our ancestor, Thomas Stephenson 1814-1901 (son of William), m. 1) Elizabeth Thompson and 2) Jane Fletcher and had 17 children. He lived Munneygashel. Most of the 17 children emigrated to Canada or Australia. Interested in connecting earlier lines of Stephensons in Manorhamilton to one another. On 23/05/2015 11:41, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > Hello, > > I have confirmed my plans to visit Ireland in September to search for traces of Andrew Maguire ( b Abt 1818) and Rebecca McKee ( b Abt 1822) . Rebecca's parents were Robert McKee and Margaret Stevenson. Andrew and Rebecca arrived in Boston in 1850, with my great grandfather in the womb and their two young children, Robert and Rebecca in tow. Undoubtedly they were fleeing the great famine. > > Another great grandmother, Susan Walker (b abt 1851), was the daughter of Archibald Walker and Ellen Dean. Suzanne came to Boston Abt 1871 from Donegal. I have yet to discover any records at all of her time in Ireland. > > A single roots.Ireland record find, Robert's Church of Ireland baptism record from Cloonclare parish, listed their residence at Manorhamilton. I will spend 3 nights in Manorhamilton in September. I understand that Maguire and Stevenson are still popular names in the Manorhamilton area. Another piece of evidence is a strong Y DNA link with Carl Maguire who has traced his genealogy to nearby villages in Fermanagh. I will visit the areas that Carl has traced to as well, his discovered Maguire's Pub, and a certain legendary 7 arch stone bridge. > > Prior to arriving in Manorhamilton I will spend 4 days in Dublin. Two of the Dublin days will be spent at the COI Representative Church a Body Library, where Cloonclare COI records are housed. After Manorhamilton I will spent a few nights in Belfast where one day will be spent at PRONI. > > For me, the trip will be a success even if I don't uncover any additional records. Just to walk the streets where these ancestors roamed and scan the hills and rivers that they beheld will be meaningful. The prospect of finding any additional information or perhaps even living relatives would be the head on the Guinness pint! > > If anyone comes across any traces of the folks mentioned above, in their own research, please send me a note. > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 17:40:33 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons in Manorhamilton. To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5560AD81.4080406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Just doing my best Shirley but it is FG... as that Parish actually goes right across to Blacklion/Belcoo and I wouldn't be surprised iF the old g/yard Carl photographed was in the Cloonclare Parish as it goes all the way to Lough McNean on NE side and probably Thornhill Cemetery is in Cloonclare Parish too. It borders Fermanagh... Cloonclare Church is Cloonclare Church and is in Manorhamilton town up the hill and old Cloonclare is down the hill behind the Mountainview Chinese Take Away (best in Ireland!) and also photographed by me, but Cloonclare PARISH is a different matter.. http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/townlands/index.cfm?fuseaction=TownlandsInCivil&civilparishid=1491&civilparish=Cloonclare&citycounty=Leitrim ..so if there's no townland, there's no townland! I think there are 10 churches in Cloonclare PARISH.. They may or may not be in Manorhamilton itself and that is ONLY a townland in the Parish. Regards Dave (with food on the way home from that Chinese for dinner!) On 23/05/2015 16:21, Shirley Smith via wrote: > Hi, Dave, I think if you just write Off Topic in the subject line, nobody would object to your helping Stephen on the Fermanagh-Gold list. Any of us could find out we need info about that area, too. Shirley --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 15:25:41 -0400 From: "Anne Sterling" <m.anne.sterling@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land To: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AE5E433963D040FD9C37460137F48C34@Ginger> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Viola, This information is valuable to all. Thank you. Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:57 AM To: Kerrie Alexander ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land Kerrie The usual term used is "Lot" or "Plot" in Griffith's Valuation. Those could consist of Fields in Farmland. In the Griffith's Maps each field is marked and numbered and it's measurement and value is noted. "House Offices and Land" means A dwelling with outhouse[s] and land measured in Acres, Roods and Perches/Poles.[a. r. p.] 1 perch/pole = 5.5 yards. "House and Garden" means a house with a small area of land for a garden usually noted as Roods and perches/poles. [r. p. ] Annual Rateable Valuation [ARV] of Buildings are costed on their own and will give an indication of their size.They range from 5 Shillings [5s od] to 4 pounds [?4 0s 0p] Hope that helps Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 16:19:59 -0400 From: "Anne Sterling" <m.anne.sterling@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land To: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <98585C1EA8D64B5786A07F901C3C8111@Ginger> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Viola, This information is valuable to all. Thank you. Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:57 AM To: Kerrie Alexander ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land Kerrie The usual term used is "Lot" or "Plot" in Griffith's Valuation. Those could consist of Fields in Farmland. In the Griffith's Maps each field is marked and numbered and it's measurement and value is noted. "House Offices and Land" means A dwelling with outhouse[s] and land measured in Acres, Roods and Perches/Poles.[a. r. p.] 1 perch/pole = 5.5 yards. "House and Garden" means a house with a small area of land for a garden usually noted as Roods and perches/poles. [r. p. ] Annual Rateable Valuation [ARV] of Buildings are costed on their own and will give an indication of their size.They range from 5 Shillings [5s od] to 4 pounds [?4 0s 0p] Hope that helps Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 21:22:55 +0100 From: "Olivia O'Dolan" <olivia.odolan@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons inManorhamilton. To: "Dave H" <hallmarkone@gmail.com>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F25C4865B0CD4026A17052D5294B4559@OliviaPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Blacklion is in Killinagh parish which is in the Diocese of Kilmore and just across from Belcoo which is in Diocese of Clogher. That old burial ground at Blacklion is no longer in use. Killingh old cemetery was the burial ground for both Catholic and C o I. The caretaker is Thomas Frazer Termon Blacklion Co Cavan. Thornhill church ruins is not too far from Killinagh old graveyard and is on old Dowra Road near Killycarny Blacklion. O.O'Dolan Belcoo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave H via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:40 PM Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton... Stephensons inManorhamilton. > Just doing my best Shirley but it is FG... as that Parish actually goes > right across to Blacklion/Belcoo and I wouldn't be surprised iF the old > g/yard Carl photographed was in the Cloonclare Parish as it goes all the > way to Lough McNean on NE side and probably Thornhill Cemetery is in > Cloonclare Parish too. > > It borders Fermanagh... > > Cloonclare Church is Cloonclare Church and is in Manorhamilton town up > the hill and old Cloonclare is down the hill behind the Mountainview > Chinese Take Away (best in Ireland!) and also photographed by me, but > Cloonclare PARISH is a different matter.. > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/townlands/index.cfm?fuseaction=TownlandsInCivil&civilparishid=1491&civilparish=Cloonclare&citycounty=Leitrim > > ..so if there's no townland, there's no townland! > > I think there are 10 churches in Cloonclare PARISH.. They may or may not > be in Manorhamilton itself and that is ONLY a townland in the Parish. > > Regards > Dave (with food on the way home from that Chinese for dinner!) > > > > > > On 23/05/2015 16:21, Shirley Smith via wrote: >> Hi, Dave, I think if you just write Off Topic in the subject line, nobody >> would object to your helping Stephen on the Fermanagh-Gold list. Any of >> us could find out we need info about that area, too. Shirley > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the FERMANAGH-GOLD list administrator, send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FERMANAGH-GOLD mailing list, send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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You've lost me... travel expenses do mount up quick these days!! DH On 23/05/2015 21:48, Oliver@lists9.rootsweb.com wrote: > If you cover all travel expenses --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com