This is an issue brought to light by the CBC (the national broadcaster in Canada) and may or may not be an issue here or in other countries depending on the company and additional testing. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/home-dna-tests-may-affect-insurance-employment-1.3018086 I had my autosomal & mitochondrial DNA tested by FTDNA. I am under the impression that this is for genealogical purposes only. I know that 23andMe will test for genes that helps you learn about your genetic health and traits in addition to family history. With FTDNA I can order further tests (factoids) that would reveal tendencies. Under My DNA go to other results / Factoid results. The statement there says: "When ordering or viewing your individual "Factoids", you acknowledge your understanding that these tests are based on studies - some of which may be controversial - and results are not intended to diagnose disease or medical conditions, therefore not serving the purpose of medical advice. They are offered exclusively for curiosity purposes, i.e. to see how your result compare with what the scientific papers say. Other genetic and environmental variables may also impact these same physiological characteristics. They are merely a conversational piece, or a "cocktail party" test, as we like to call it." I would like to know if there is an issue here regarding insurance companies. It might be the reason that most of my cousins have offered to do DNA testing. Thank you in advance, Bonnie Anderson, Kitchener, Ontario

Hi again for the Fromelles soldiers the Australian army manages all the dna, we do the research, give our record charts and the contact deatils to them and they do everything from there on. It is done by a lab that holds the dna of the 250 soldiers and each time a sample is sent it is matched against all 250 deceased soldiers. it is entirely confidential under the army privacy laws, as no one get to see any of the results, even their own. Other methods of identifying the soldiers are also used as, at the time of exhumation each soldier was measured and wound evidence, new and old were noted. height, teeth, etc.... A lot of this was done by the Oxford Archeology group, Margaret Cox from Time Team if anyone is a Time Team fan. When the mass grave was discovered thousand came forward to donate dna and then families were allowed two MT female line samples and 2 Y male sampled. That solved about 50 of the soldiers, the other 200 are much more difficult, many with no relatives in Australia. 144 are now identified so we are into the tough end of it, looking for the last 106. and the army allows only one Y and one Mt sample now. When someone is identified they get their own gravest on, the rellies get to say what is o n it and they get a full military ceremony with rellies invited. Next ceremony will be on the 100th anniversary 19 July 2016. It sounds like a lot of time but we are hoping to get a many more identified by then. cheers marg -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Anderson via Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 8:00 AM To: FER-GOLD Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Home DNA tests may affect insurance, employment This is an issue brought to light by the CBC (the national broadcaster in Canada) and may or may not be an issue here or in other countries depending on the company and additional testing. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/home-dna-tests-may-affect-insurance-employment-1.3018086 I had my autosomal & mitochondrial DNA tested by FTDNA. I am under the impression that this is for genealogical purposes only. I know that 23andMe will test for genes that helps you learn about your genetic health and traits in addition to family history. With FTDNA I can order further tests (factoids) that would reveal tendencies. Under My DNA go to other results / Factoid results. The statement there says: "When ordering or viewing your individual "Factoids", you acknowledge your understanding that these tests are based on studies - some of which may be controversial - and results are not intended to diagnose disease or medical conditions, therefore not serving the purpose of medical advice. They are offered exclusively for curiosity purposes, i.e. to see how your result compare with what the scientific papers say. Other genetic and environmental variables may also impact these same physiological characteristics. They are merely a conversational piece, or a "cocktail party" test, as we like to call it." I would like to know if there is an issue here regarding insurance companies. It might be the reason that most of my cousins have offered to do DNA testing. Thank you in advance, Bonnie Anderson, Kitchener, Ontario ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a matter of interest does anyone know what happened to the huge Red Cross records discovered about 3 years ago? From memory it was 2 or 3 million Medical cards no one knew about.... DH On 04/04/2015 23:25, marg o'leary via wrote: > Hi again > > for the Fromelles soldiers the Australian army manages all the dna, we do > the research, give our record charts and the contact deatils to them and > they do everything from there on. > > It is done by a lab that holds the dna of the 250 soldiers and each time a > sample is sent it is matched against all 250 deceased soldiers. > it is entirely confidential under the army privacy laws, as no one get to > see any of the results, even their own. Other methods of identifying the > soldiers are also used as, at the time of exhumation each soldier was > measured and wound evidence, new and old were noted. height, teeth, etc.... > A lot of this was done by the Oxford Archeology group, Margaret Cox from > Time Team if anyone is a Time Team fan. > > When the mass grave was discovered thousand came forward to donate dna and > then families were allowed two MT female line samples and 2 Y male sampled. > > That solved about 50 of the soldiers, the other 200 are much more difficult, > many with no relatives in Australia. 144 are now identified so we are into > the tough end of it, looking for the last 106. and the army allows only one > Y and one Mt sample now. > > When someone is identified they get their own gravest on, the rellies get to > say what is o n it and they get a full military ceremony with rellies > invited. Next ceremony will be on the 100th anniversary 19 July 2016. > > It sounds like a lot of time but we are hoping to get a many more > identified by then. > > cheers > > marg

Can anyone comment on this? Can the DNA tests results from FTDNA reveal anything regarding disease or medical conditions. I have not seen anything in my results Bonnie Anderson On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Bonnie Anderson via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is an issue brought to light by the CBC (the national broadcaster > in Canada) and may or may not be an issue here or in other countries > depending on the company and additional testing. > > http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/home-dna-tests-may-affect-insurance-employment-1.3018086 > > I had my autosomal & mitochondrial DNA tested by FTDNA. I am under > the impression that this is for genealogical purposes only. I know > that 23andMe will test for genes that helps you learn about your > genetic health and traits in addition to family history. With FTDNA I > can order further tests (factoids) that would reveal tendencies. > Under My DNA go to other results / Factoid results. The statement there says: > "When ordering or viewing your individual "Factoids", you acknowledge > your understanding that these tests are based on studies - some of > which may be controversial - and results are not intended to diagnose > disease or medical conditions, therefore not serving the purpose of > medical advice. They are offered exclusively for curiosity purposes, > i.e. to see how your result compare with what the scientific papers > say. Other genetic and environmental variables may also impact these > same physiological characteristics. They are merely a conversational > piece, or a "cocktail party" test, as we like to call it." > > I would like to know if there is an issue here regarding insurance > companies. It might be the reason that most of my cousins have > offered to do DNA testing. > Thank you in advance, > Bonnie Anderson, > Kitchener, Ontario > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bonnie, FTDNA doesn't report any medical information, but the Family Finder autosomal DNA test does contain medically important data. You would have to download it from FTDNA and then upload the data to another site that interprets the DNA data and flags positive and negative traits. The following link is to a Beginner's Guide to Genetic Genealogy. I've found it very helpful and it includes a section on third party tools for medical traits: https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/beginners-guide-to-genetic-genealogy/lesson-16-using-third-party-tools-for-medical-implications As for the risks of this data in Canada, I really cannot say. In the US, there is already a law on the books to prevent insurance companies from using genetic data in coverage decisions. What's more, with the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), pre-existing conditions cannot be used to deny coverage. Could a Canadian insurance company take US-based FTDNA to court for access to your DNA, I really have no idea. I would think that FTDNA (and the other companies as well) would fight that as it would be bad press and scare off customers. 23andMe *is* definitely geared toward the medical side and only do genealogy as a side-business. According to their privacy policy, they only share aggregate or anonymous data with third parties, but this still makes many people nervous. As for the other tests... I haven't heard of any medical information being revealed as by the Y-DNA tests, but I have read that the mitochondrial DNA tests can. Alas, as with all tools, they come with certain dangers. John in NC On 2015/04/06 20:10 , Bonnie Anderson via wrote: > Can anyone comment on this? > Can the DNA tests results from FTDNA reveal anything regarding disease > or medical conditions. I have not seen anything in my results > Bonnie Anderson > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Bonnie Anderson via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> This is an issue brought to light by the CBC (the national broadcaster >> in Canada) and may or may not be an issue here or in other countries >> depending on the company and additional testing. >> >> http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/home-dna-tests-may-affect-insurance-employment-1.3018086 >> >> I had my autosomal & mitochondrial DNA tested by FTDNA. I am under >> the impression that this is for genealogical purposes only. I know >> that 23andMe will test for genes that helps you learn about your >> genetic health and traits in addition to family history. With FTDNA I >> can order further tests (factoids) that would reveal tendencies. >> Under My DNA go to other results / Factoid results. The statement there says: >> "When ordering or viewing your individual "Factoids", you acknowledge >> your understanding that these tests are based on studies - some of >> which may be controversial - and results are not intended to diagnose >> disease or medical conditions, therefore not serving the purpose of >> medical advice. They are offered exclusively for curiosity purposes, >> i.e. to see how your result compare with what the scientific papers >> say. Other genetic and environmental variables may also impact these >> same physiological characteristics. They are merely a conversational >> piece, or a "cocktail party" test, as we like to call it." >> >> I would like to know if there is an issue here regarding insurance >> companies. It might be the reason that most of my cousins have >> offered to do DNA testing. >> Thank you in advance, >> Bonnie Anderson, >> Kitchener, Ontario >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >