On 25/03/2015 19:31, Jack Fallin via wrote: > I’ve read the Daily Mail article and I can almost guarantee it’s garbled the basic study. It talks about large parts of England having “French” but not “Norman” DNA — well, the Celts in England and Ireland quite clearly came from somewhere else, and the great majority would have come from France and, to a lesser extent, Spain — arriving atop an existing neolithic population that no one seems quite sure of. So the discussion about a “Celtic Myth” seems wildly overstated. I subscribe to NATURE and will advise as to what is really said when I get a chance to read it. > > Jack Fallin The current "who were the Irish" study results should be interesting with them taking DNA samples from 6th Century onwards.. Not sure how many bodies they are testing. DH

Hi Jack and Dave, I am surely no expert on dna matters, but am wondering how Norman genes could be clearly differentiated from Viking. We know that Vikings settled all along that part of the coast of Europe, and William of Normandy's family were fourth generation Viking; simply because they spoke French when they conquered England does not change their dna makeup, although intermarriage with the local population would change the equation. Much of their 'French' overlay was a cultural occurrence rather than genetic. Very rarely does one hear praise for the wonderful Neolithic peoples who settled Britain so long ago, who flourished and built a diverse, interesting civilisation with ingenuity and vigour. The fact is, every dna study will give only basic results unless a very large proportion of the population is tested- and without that extensive testing purely cultural issues need to be taken into consideration when we casually examine any civilisation, ancient or modern. Descending from Dolan and Magauran, two tribes of (hopefully) truly ancient Ireland, it will be fascinating to study the results of the 'who were the Irish' study Dave spoke of. Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2015 5:41 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 130; Latest DNA study for England Scotland. On 25/03/2015 19:31, Jack Fallin via wrote: > I've read the Daily Mail article and I can almost guarantee it's garbled the basic study. It talks about large parts of England having "French" but not "Norman" DNA - well, the Celts in England and Ireland quite clearly came from somewhere else, and the great majority would have come from France and, to a lesser extent, Spain - arriving atop an existing neolithic population that no one seems quite sure of. So the discussion about a "Celtic Myth" seems wildly overstated. I subscribe to NATURE and will advise as to what is really said when I get a chance to read it. > > Jack Fallin The current "who were the Irish" study results should be interesting with them taking DNA samples from 6th Century onwards.. Not sure how many bodies they are testing. DH ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message