David, I understand your frustration, but sometimes people who grew up in a country where religion is not a huge issue, where people of different denominations intermarry regularly, where records are kept by the civil authorities, don't realize how important religion is to finding records in Ireland. And in many cases they just don't know what their ancestors' religion was. But I totally agree with you on keeping trees private on Ancestry. I too had a similar experience when I gave information to someone about a man I researched for my local historical society (not a relative)> I was in contact with one of his descendants, shared what I knew. The next thing I knew was his information was posted ALONG WITH a bunch of WRONG information linking him back two generations to another family of the same name, but a family I had already proved he was not related to. And of course they had not a shred of source for the conclusion they had jumped to. So now this mistake is out there and others will see and copy it. My favorite copying disaster though is the one I mentioned recently, in which someone mistook the three-letter abbreviation for Australia (AUS) for Austria, and now about six trees on Ancestry have the same info for this Stinson from Austria and Germany!! who died in Australia! Janet C On 3/9/15 12:12 PM, Dave H wrote: > Yes people had a lot more freedom when they left Ireland BUT for > trying to find people/records IN Ireland helpers need some idea of > what religion they might have been IN IRELAND!! > > Personally I have given up trying to help people in other counties, > left the list/boards simply because of the number that can't be > bothered including everything that might HELP THE HELPER to find people! > > ON SOME, WHEN A ROLL CALL WAS MADE THEY WERE TOLD clearly to include > religion... post after post after post with a pile of WAFFLE about > what they did outside Ireland... ALL TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding > stuff in/for Ireland... and only TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding stuff > in/for Ireland. > > > Half the time I couldn't make out who or what they were looking for IN > IRELAND.....and the vast amount chose to ignore how CRUCIAL it is to > include Religion.. even what Religion they were outside Ireland. > > Now I basically ignore posts where people choose to omit religion or > pointers to probable religion in Ireland as it has been posted over > and over again how IMPORTANT it is! > > If people don't want to HELP THE HELPERS then what do they expect the > helpers to do?????? > > DH > > > > On 09/03/2015 12:24, DSA2003 via wrote: >> (Given the discussion about changing religion earlier today, I >> thought I’d add that the Incumbent of this parish for whose family >> I’m searching, was Isaac Hellmuth, a Polish Jew who converted to the >> Church of England and Ireland, and ended his career as Bishop of Huron). >> >> >> David Armstrong >> >> Maylands >> Western Australia > > >
But they don't even say they don't know!! Just ignore even mentioning it so one doesn't know if they know or not... can't be bothered asking yet again!! Anyway, yes it's funny to see where some on my Halls ended up... even those that never left the country"! Yes have given a few snippets to people too and they knew it was Private... then it went on a Public tree so end of contact as far as I'm concerned... no more snippets!! No damage done as such but enough is enough. Their loss not mine! I won't comment on 'that Little Australian' who started WW2... :-)) DH On 09/03/2015 16:45, caiside@comcast.net wrote: > David, > > I understand your frustration, but sometimes people who grew up in a > country where religion is not a huge issue, where people of different > denominations intermarry regularly, where records are kept by the civil > authorities, don't realize how important religion is to finding records > in Ireland. > > And in many cases they just don't know what their ancestors' religion was. > > But I totally agree with you on keeping trees private on Ancestry. I too > had a similar experience when I gave information to someone about a man > I researched for my local historical society (not a relative)> I was in > contact with one of his descendants, shared what I knew. The next thing > I knew was his information was posted ALONG WITH a bunch of WRONG > information linking him back two generations to another family of the > same name, but a family I had already proved he was not related to. And > of course they had not a shred of source for the conclusion they had > jumped to. So now this mistake is out there and others will see and copy > it. > > My favorite copying disaster though is the one I mentioned recently, in > which someone mistook the three-letter abbreviation for Australia (AUS) > for Austria, and now about six trees on Ancestry have the same info for > this Stinson from Austria and Germany!! who died in Australia! > > Janet C