Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? Jim > Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but > other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help > someone else who may not be able to visit. > > Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards > and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge > that others need photos at that g/yard. > > Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's > one there! > > > Dave

Jim, I would look at it a different way. As I transcribe headstones that were carved over a hundred years ago, weathered and worn, the grass before them withered, no votives in front of them, I type the words that are carved on there “Always remembered . . . forever in our hearts….” rather sadly. Because it seems that whoever first carved those words is now dust as well, perhaps below that tombstone, perhaps in some faraway land. Many of the tombstones also have plenty of blank space for where a spouse doubtless expected their names would be carved, but it is empty. What happened to those spouses? Did they go elsewhere, marry again or did the living simply not think it was worth getting the stone engraved??? So when I transcribe the headstones I say a little prayer that “I” remember them and perhaps some descendant will be searching online and see that headstone and remember them too. Val > On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:21 AM, jim dawe via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim >

No different to looking at Church records Val, in fact they can be more "revealing" in family history with certainly "comments" in margins or even find out who "the father" was or wasn't, if any!! G/stones are only names/dates but Church Records can and are often far more "revealing" and intrusive!! DH On 21/06/2015 16:41, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > Jim, I would look at it a different way. As I transcribe headstones that were carved over a hundred years ago, weathered and worn, the grass before them withered, no votives in front of them, I type the words that are carved on there “Always remembered . . . forever in our hearts….” rather sadly. Because it seems that whoever first carved those words is now dust as well, perhaps below that tombstone, perhaps in some faraway land. Many of the tombstones also have plenty of blank space for where a spouse doubtless expected their names would be carved, but it is empty. What happened to those spouses? Did they go elsewhere, marry again or did the living simply not think it was worth getting the stone engraved??? So when I transcribe the headstones I say a little prayer that “I” remember them and perhaps some descendant will be searching online and see that headstone and remember them too. > > Val --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Valerie and All, I too have the same experience when transcribing headstones. I too wonder where the missing spouse is -- did they remarry and they are buried elsewhere or was there no one left to record their passage? I also notice how many adult children are buried with their parents and wonder did they not marry and why? Some graves express deep love for the body below, but as you say, they are sometimes untended and hence unvisited. I too think of each individual/family as I type them out and ponder about their ages, how one spouse got on after the other died and how they coped with dead young children. Transcribing and therefore taking pictures to do so, is just another way of remembering these people and hoping that one day, some descendant in some land will find it easier to find their ancestor and their own history. I'd be thrilled to find my relatives graves. I still can't find them after all these years. But I am happy to do this work so that others may find theirs. Eilish On 22/06/2015 1:41 AM, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > Jim, I would look at it a different way. As I transcribe headstones that were carved over a hundred years ago, weathered and worn, the grass before them withered, no votives in front of them, I type the words that are carved on there “Always remembered . . . forever in our hearts….” rather sadly. Because it seems that whoever first carved those words is now dust as well, perhaps below that tombstone, perhaps in some faraway land. Many of the tombstones also have plenty of blank space for where a spouse doubtless expected their names would be carved, but it is empty. What happened to those spouses? Did they go elsewhere, marry again or did the living simply not think it was worth getting the stone engraved??? So when I transcribe the headstones I say a little prayer that “I” remember them and perhaps some descendant will be searching online and see that headstone and remember them too. > > Val > > >> On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:21 AM, jim dawe via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? >> >> Jim >> > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I'm going to Clones Library or Sligo Genealogy Office I always check the opening times before I go.. even have to do that with my local Library so I know opening hours before I leave house. When looking for any farms etc of my kin I check Griffith's maps, then locate it on a map so I can find the way' IF I was to go to Teightunny Ancient Graveyard I'd find out before I left the house where it is.. in fact it's down the road to Power Station near where old railway crossed the road. Now if I'm passing I can find it. If you let me know the names of your kin and the g/yard I'll be certain not to photograph their g/stones to ensure their privacy! There is a policy with IGP, which I'm sure Chris can verify.... that is if someone objects to a g/stone being on IGP it will be removed. Would you be delighted if someone was to put up g/stones of your kin??? Or would you insist they were removed?? Absolutely no problem as all you have to do is request that no one takes photos of your kin's g/stones once they know where they are etc... Looking forward to you posting which g/stones you don't want photographed and where! DH ----------------------------------------------- On 21/06/2015 16:21, jim dawe via wrote: > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Jim, I think if I was travelling all that way, Id have "done my homework" and would have arranged in advance a time to visit the genealogy office (basically to allow them to prepare and compile information). Id also identify where the farm and burial ground are before setting off!! Do you have any details as to where these ancient burial ground are located? There is probably someone on the list who knows or could point you in the right direction! All you have to do is ask. Clive On Sunday 21 Jun 2015 08:21:00 jim dawe via wrote: > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, > go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for > the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground > cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the > place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is > from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if > people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families > other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim

Bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted! Could have even asked on FG while in Ireland but a good example of why someone should do their homework BEFORE leaving home. Recently I was asked about an ancient cemetery near to where I lived for years... I had to look at maps on Google to try to find it even though I'd passed it 100's of times and never knew there was a g/yard there! Mind you I photographed g/stones, and recently found descendants haven't objected, in fact were delighted I had invaded their privacy and there are no armed guards patrolling my property! DH On 21/06/2015 17:22, Killyfole and District Development Association via wrote: > Jim, > > I think if I was travelling all that way, Id have "done my homework" and would > have arranged in advance a time to visit the genealogy office (basically to > allow them to prepare and compile information). Id also identify where the > farm and burial ground are before setting off!! > > Do you have any details as to where these ancient burial ground are located? > There is probably someone on the list who knows or could point you in the > right direction! All you have to do is ask. > > Clive --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

To all, I hereby give permission for the photographing of any of the grave stones in the RC cemeteries which have the remains of Bannons or Muldoon's. Walking is limited and any help for genealogical reasons is gratefully accepted. This may be the only way I can get church records. Any scandals do not bother me as I have had many on this side of the pond. Sally in CT -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jim dawe via Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:21 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 225 Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife's Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people "feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? Jim > Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but > other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help > someone else who may not be able to visit. > > Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards > and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge > that others need photos at that g/yard. > > Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's > one there! > > > Dave ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message