Off topic ?????????????? It is discussions like this that put the "Gold" in Fermanagh-Gold! Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "Bruce Graham" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" | <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 6:08:22 AM | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Fwd: Origins of the Irish -- not Celtic? | Dee, | Glad no one is thinking this little side-trip into Pictland is off | topic. :-) | Here's what I just read on the orkneyjar link that David sent: | " Theories abound, although these days it is generally accepted that the | Picts were not, as was once believed, a new race, but were simply the | descendents of the indigenous Iron Age people of northern Scotland." | Also here http://www.ancient.eu/picts/ says | "Although it was accepted history in the past to date the arrival of the | Picts in Scotland to sometime shortly before their mention in Roman | history, or to claim a "Pictish Invasion", modern scholarship offers a | much earlier date with no full-scale invasion. According to the/Collins | Encyclopedia of Scotland/, "the Picts did not 'arrive' - in a sense they | had always been there, for they were the descendants of the first people | to inhabit what eventually became Scotland" (775). Historian Stuart | McHardy supports this claim,***writing | <http://www.ancient.eu/writing/>**that "the Picts were in fact the | indigenous population of this part of the world" by the time the Romans | arrived in Britain (32). They originally came from**Scythia | <http://www.ancient.eu/scythia/>***(Scandinavia), settled first in | Orkney, and then migrated south." | I bet Cunliffe's book _Britain Begins_ would shed light. | Janet C | On 4/1/16 5:06 PM, Bruce Graham wrote: | > -----Original Message----- From: Dee Byster-Graham via | > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 4:43 PM | > To: 'DSA2003' ; [email protected] | > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Fwd: Origins of the Irish -- not Celtic? | > Hi Folks, | > Thank you all so much for this discussion of the origin complexities | > of Pictish, and all related to this area. | > The whole subject has puzzled me for many years - language, physical | > appearance, origins etc. | > For what it is worth, I have always leaned towards the idea that | > Pictish language was an ancient form of Q-Celtic mainly because of the | > Ogham script. Is the former belief still in vogue that the Picts | > invaded Britain at an indefinable time in pre-history? I have not read | > much about their origins lately, but still puzzling over the real | > difference in the physical characteristics of my Scottish Mitchells. | > Despite being descended on the male side from the Norman invaders in | > 1066 ( Vikings) the differences are huge - small all around 5- 5ft | > 2ins in height, slight builds, almost black eyes and hair with very | > fair skin, small feet and hands etc. So different in appearance from | > the Orkney Viking SNOW family of Ireland and the original Irish of the | > Dolan, Magauran clans. | > Also puzzle about the role the ancient Britons played, we must all | > have that genetic in our makeups! | > Were in fact the Picts ancient Britons in residence from pre-Neolithic | > times??? | > Please keep the conversation going - it's absolutely fascinating! | > David, thank you also for the interesting links to the newly | > discovered Viking sites in America - that may very well put a lot of | > cats amongst the pigeons :) | > Kindly, | > Dee. | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message