Hello: I have such a small connection to Fermanagh, but do enjoy and learn so much from this list. I usually just lurk around. Now I am wondering if someone can help me with a query of some of my Sligo ancestors. I keep running into two families living in the same area, in fact in the 1901 and 1911 census seem to be living beside each other. They came from the same area since registration began – my problem – one was Church of Ireland, and the other Roman Catholic. What is the chance that the RC one changed to that religion when he married? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Eleanor

Just this out: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/ We are right on top, but I warn you Irl-Kerry is giving us a run for our money. I haven't been able to keep up with them this weekend. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

Marge & DeLories, 2 surnames caught my eye "Hurst and Sproule”. I have some information of a Hurst family that settled from Ireland to the Simcoe area of Ontario Canada. These Hursts have a Canada connection with the Stevensons of Fermanagh of Whitby Ontario who then moved to the Simcoe area. There was a later Sproule intermarriage I think. > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:22:55 -0400 > From: Marge in SoCal <eireannslass@dslextreme.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDSent on behalf of DeLories Robinson-Vaughn - > Hurst, Mcready(Mcreedy) and Sproul(e) > To: fermanagh-gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1622051963.5569344.1524320575389.JavaMail.zimbra@dslextreme.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > In Fermanagh, my ancestors are from: Irvinestown, Enniskillen, Doora of Ederny Drumadraghy and Kesh. > Surnames are: Hurst, Mcready(Mcreedy) and Sproul(e) > I have search a lot to find what cemeteries they are buried in. Actually, any info that I can obtain would be a treasure. > > DeLories

In Fermanagh, my ancestors are from: Irvinestown, Enniskillen, Doora of Ederny Drumadraghy and Kesh. Surnames are: Hurst, Mcready(Mcreedy) and Sproul(e) I have search a lot to find what cemeteries they are buried in. Actually, any info that I can obtain would be a treasure. DeLories Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:20:55 +1000 From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: roll call quinn and Wilkins To: Fermanagh List <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E6DB69C5-52E4-4AA6-8E46-F3EE4156689B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Margaret you may already have had your question answered but the connection between Templecarne and Fermanagh is that the Parish of Templecarne covers part of Fermanagh on its east and part of Co. Donegal on its west. I hope this makes sense. Margaret in Oz. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:22:16 +1000 From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Roll Call To: Fermanagh List <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <748F96BA-D945-4FC3-98AD-5DA35BA4DCF1@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hullo Dianne, Which company did you test with? As you will remember I believe Jamed Bedad was my gggg uncle and I would be interested to see if we have any matches. Kind regards, Margaret in Oz.

Is anyone on the List researching this family? Margaret in Oz.

Just to add my family to the roll call, I'm researching the HOWEs and THOMPSONs who lived near Tempo, with the Howe family in the townland of Claranagh and the Thompsons in the townland of Leam. Some of their descendants immigrated to Ontario and New York in the 1880s. I'm always happy to collaborate :) Debbie Virginia, USA

Warren, Portnabligh (Portnablagh?) is on the coast of Co Donegal, so I think you are searching miles away from Fermanagh. The Townland nearest to the name you give I think should be "PORTNABLAGHY". I suggest searching the c1828-32 Tithe Applotment Records for that Townland's Occupier's or for Sarah's father. Those records, like Griffith's Valuation, records the Heads of families occupying an area of land. What was the Brother's given name born in Aghalurcher? Sometimes the Given names follow a naming pattern which can give clues to the given names of Grandparents. First born son named after Maternal Gfather. First born daughter after paternal Gmother. Regards Viola. Sent from my iPad > On my father’s maternal side, Sarah ARMSTRONG married Christopher KERR (or CARR) in Morris Township, Huron County, Ontario in 1857 by a Bible Christian minister (Methodist). > Sarah was born, I believe, Feb. 1837 to James ARMSTRONG and Isabella IRVINE, in Portnabligh, Templecarn Parish, Co. Fermanagh. > A brother was born in Augalurcher in 1832. > Lore has it they went to Canada soon after Sarah’s birth. > That’s all I know about her ancestry

Finally rollin' 'round to answering the call… On my father’s maternal side, Sarah ARMSTRONG married Christopher KERR (or CARR) in Morris Township, Huron County, Ontario in 1857 by a Bible Christian minister (Methodist). Sarah was born, I believe, Feb. 1837 to James ARMSTRONG and Isabella IRVINE, in Portnabligh, Templecarn Parish, Co. Fermanagh. A brother was born in Augalurcher in 1832. Lore has it they went to Canada soon after Sarah’s birth. That’s all I know about her ancestry, and nothing for sure about Christopher KERR’s except that there may be some connection to Peterborough, Ontario and also links to a WELSH (or WALSH) family. Sarah and Christopher subsequently were part of a fairly large wagon train from Huron County to Howard County, Nebraska to become homesteaders. (Considering the poor soil, weather and the locust invasions, they would have been better off staying in Ontario.) I follow FG regularly from Detroit, Michigan. Warren Dean wtdean@mac.com

Thank you, Vi dear, You can bet we shall do that, and Frankie and the Monsignor also :-) The Fermanagh Ferret has already struck, as you have already explained the Innis part - I was trying to think of what island it could be - naturally my lax mind immediately went to Boa. Now thinking Di's ancestor could be the third son of my gggrandfather Felix of Meenagleragh, you recall I discovered that he went to Enniskillen and eventually became a cattle trader there. If so, Di could also be related to Gaby Burns through his mother's ancestors! And to think that Di and I live in the same part of the world - almost neighbours in this big continent. It's exciting! Dee. -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins [mailto:vmaw3434@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 3:05 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Family Fermanagh FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Di and Dee, I am delighted for you both and hope you can both make the link and if I can help I will. The RC Chapel and the RC School in Enniskillen are both called St Michaels. Remember information given about a person after their death is what someone who thinks they know about the deceased. Innis means "Island" and the military Regiments were " Inniskilling !" So I'd bet good money that in this case Innis is Enniskillen. If there's anything I can do to help unravel the knot, Dee and Di, including asking the Monsignor in charge, or asking Frankie, just send me the facts off list. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks Viola, I hope we can make a connection. Irish genealogy is hard but little gems come along I hope that happens in this case. Cheers Di Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Viola Wiggins Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 3:21 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Family Fermanagh FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Di and Dee, I am delighted for you both and hope you can both make the link and if I can help I will. The RC Chapel and the RC School in Enniskillen are both called St Michaels. Remember information given about a person after their death is what someone who thinks they know about the deceased. Innis means "Island" and the military Regiments were " Inniskilling !" So I'd bet good money that in this case Innis is Enniskillen. If there's anything I can do to help unravel the knot, Dee and Di, including asking the Monsignor in charge, or asking Frankie, just send me the facts off list. Viola _______________________________________________ To post a message to the Fermanagh-Gold mailing list, send an email to Fermanagh-Gold@rootsweb.com. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Fermanagh-Gold-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and in the body of the email with no additional text. To contact the Fermanagh-Gold list administrator, send an email to Fermanagh-Gold-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------------- facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:fermanagh-gold-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Di and Dee, I am delighted for you both and hope you can both make the link and if I can help I will. The RC Chapel and the RC School in Enniskillen are both called St Michaels. Remember information given about a person after their death is what someone who thinks they know about the deceased. Innis means "Island" and the military Regiments were " Inniskilling !" So I'd bet good money that in this case Innis is Enniskillen. If there's anything I can do to help unravel the knot, Dee and Di, including asking the Monsignor in charge, or asking Frankie, just send me the facts off list. Viola

Hello Di, Thank you for the data you have sent. We are certainly related, but in exactly how will take some working out. I shall look over what you sent over the next few days and get back to you. The given name Felix is all through the Dolan history, from one Archbishop Felix Dolan in the 13th century. 'Born Nov 1833 Enniskillen' may possibly mean this birth was recorded at that place, not that the family lived there, and we will need to work out what 'Town Innis' means also. Is there a St Michael's Church in Enniskillen? Researching Ireland is never as simple as it appears to be initially, and DOLAN in particular can be a minefield :-) - but we will surely get there eventually. If any other Golden friend reading this post can help with any of the above I would be delighted to hear from you. Meanwhile, please feel free to use my personal mail address for any long mails, and we can post our results to the Group in general so other DOLAN seekers may be helped. Kind regards, Dee. <snip> Hi Dee, Back to you at last. I recently had a DNA test done on Ancestry.com. I made contact with a lady in USA who says that my DNA matched with her 2 brothers. Her Great Grandfather Felix born in 1833 in Enniskilleen could be a brother to my Great Grandfather James born Enniskillen in 1836. I have the birth date from a family bible one of my 2 nd cousins has. James born 18 Oct 1836. His military records say 18 Oct 1836 Parish of St Michaels, Town Innis, Co Fermanagh. This lady has no record of Felix birth or parents except to say he was born Nov 1833 Enniskillen. On James death certificate his parents are named John Dolan and Mary Ann Carey. I have a fair bit of info on his Military records including that he enlisted in the Militia at aged 18. He was in the Military from 1855 till 1877, 20 years in India. He married in India had several children in India, Lancashire, and Brisbane. My grandmother Delia was the last of his ten children born here in Brisbane in 1887. So apart from being born their are no other legal type documents in Ireland pertaining to him. I have searched the Catholic Birth Registers online but found no trace. The family emigrated to Brisbane from Liverpool on the Western Monarch arriving in Brisbane 12 Oct 1883. James died in Brisbane May 1895 aged 58 years. <snip> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Family Fermanagh FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Hello Di, I am a direct descendant of the Dolans of Meenagleragh Townland, Fermanagh. <snip> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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In Fermanagh, my ancestors are from: Irvinestown, Enniskillen, Doora of Ederny Drumadraghy and Kesh. Surnames are: Hurst, Mcready(Mcreedy) and Sproul(e) I have search a lot to find what cemeteries they are buried in. Actually, any info that I can obtain would be a treasure. DeLories ________________________________

Hi Dee, Back to you at last. I recently had a DNA test done on Ancestry.com. I made contact with a lady in USA who says that my DNA matched with her 2 brothers. Her Great Grandfather Felix born in 1833 in Enniskilleen could be a brother to my Great Grandfather James born Enniskillen in 1836. I have the birth date from a family bible one of my 2 nd cousins has. James born 18 Oct 1836. His military records say 18 Oct 1836 Parish of St Michaels, Town Innis, Co Fermanagh. This lady has no record of Felix birth or parents except to say he was born Nov 1833 Enniskillen. On James death certificate his parents are named John Dolan and Mary Ann Carey. I have a fair bit of info on his Military records including that he enlisted in the Militia at aged 18. He was in the Military from 1855 till 1877, 20 years in India. He married in India had several children in India, Lancashire, and Brisbane. My grandmother Delia was the last of his ten children born here in Brisbane in 1887. So apart from being born their are no other legal type documents in Ireland pertaining to him. I have searched the Catholic Birth Registers online but found no trace. The family emigrated to Brisbane from Liverpool on the Western Monarch arriving in Brisbane 12 Oct 1883. James died in Brisbane May 1895 aged 58 years. His wife Bridget Annie Scott was 11 years younger and moved to Ingham where the sons worked on the cane trains at Victoria Mill and one in Innisfail. Great Grandmother is buried in Townsville with a son Edward who died rather young. Edward was the Licensee of the Halifax Hotel for a time. I lived in Townsville for 14 years but I was not doing genealogy so I had no idea I lived about 20 minutes away from my second cousin in Ingham. Of course I have visited him since as we go back to Townsville to see my husbands family and he was the one who showed me the family bible. 7 of the children reached adulthood in Brisbane and married and had children. Some married into the Kelly, O’Dea and Humphry Families. I am wondering if John Dolan is brother to your gg grandfather Felix?? I fancy he was born 1805 and have found a death record for John Dolan Enniskillen about 1880? Will try and get a copy of this death certificate. I would appreciate any help as I am at quite sixes and sevens with this family. Cheers Di I live in Bethania Sent from [ https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 | Mail ] for Windows 10 From: [ mailto:deebg@bigpond.net.au | Dee Byster-Graham ] Sent: Monday, 9 April 2018 6:34 PM To: [ mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com | fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com ] Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Family Fermanagh FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Hello Di, I am a direct descendant of the Dolans of Meenagleragh Townland, Fermanagh. It is believed that all of this surname in Fermanagh were related, but it is difficult to decide which branch of the family your James came from. Every child born to every branch in every generation had the given names of John, James, Patrick, Hugh etc - can you give me any further data on the exact family you seek? Was James actually born in Enniskillen as noted on a birth cert -did you search the Catholic Birth Registers online? Where in Australia did they immigrate to? Your Mary Ann Carey rings a bell in my brain - perhaps I have come across this couple in my search. The 1836 date would indicate he may be of the Dolans of Sandhill Townland (near Derrygonnelly) - the patriarch of this branch was Owen Dolan (c1793-c1870, who was the brother of my gg-grandfather Felix Dolan (c1795-1886) of Meenagleragh. Would appreciate any further data you could give me, and I shall search through my records and see what is there. I see you live in Brisbane, I am on Lamb Island in Moreton Bay :-) Kindly, Dee.

Per the March 6 update at roots web the old archives will be migrated to the new archives with time. At least they are not gone forever but I guess we have been waiting so long we are getting impatient. Janet Morgan > On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:23 PM, James Mullan <jamesmullan@rogers.com> wrote: > > I've been trying for some time to find the FG Archives of the discussions that go back over ten years. They covered many topics and advice and information on many Fermanagh families and places. I used to access them regularly regarding information I had forgotten, and for research that had already been done by a contributing correspondent. Where are all these records now? I can't find them anymore. Have they been destroyed? > > James > > -----Original Message----- From: Janet Morgan via FERMANAGH-GOLD > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:56 PM > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Cc: Janet Morgan > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDIgp-web archives > > FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com > > There are some new subscribers and they may be unaware of the resources available to us. > This one is done by volunteers from this site. > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/index.htm > Church, cemetery, land records. > > Janet Morgan >

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I've been trying for some time to find the FG Archives of the discussions that go back over ten years. They covered many topics and advice and information on many Fermanagh families and places. I used to access them regularly regarding information I had forgotten, and for research that had already been done by a contributing correspondent. Where are all these records now? I can't find them anymore. Have they been destroyed? James -----Original Message----- From: Janet Morgan via FERMANAGH-GOLD Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:56 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Cc: Janet Morgan Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDIgp-web archives FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com There are some new subscribers and they may be unaware of the resources available to us. This one is done by volunteers from this site. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/index.htm Church, cemetery, land records. Janet Morgan