If you are having problems SENDING OR RECEIVING email to or from the list please read. I have been having problems with messages going to MY SPAM folder - EVEN MY OWN MESSAGES. PLEASE EVERYONE check your email "preferences" I have a NEW folder titled "TRUSTED ADDRESSES" (I did not add it - it just showed up there) - some of you may have one titled "FRIENDS." Please take a look at your options and see if there is a place you can add "fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com" or (if you belong to other Rootsweb lists just add "@rootsweb.com" That SHOULD take care of the issue. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

I emailed you twice. Did you not see them? Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2018, at 1:48 PM, dianne swanwick <diswanwick@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello there, > > > I hope this email comes through. I don't receive any F-G emails now for some reason. > > > I was looking for information for my Armstrong family who lived in Ederney, Fermanagh in the 18th century and stumbled across this site which mentions some of the old Fermanagh names. It may be of interest to someone looking for links in the area;_ > > > https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148 > > Kind regards, > > Di Armstrong > [https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c0.0.200.200/p200x200/15350573_622167451296252_1560984070750980334_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7bfd917adace5bc73a90d55a0791f699&oe=5B2A465B]<https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148> > > Ederney Village - Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148> > www.facebook.com > BUNDORAN SCANDAL. Bundoran 50 years ago was as large as Blackpool. To-day Bundoran is still the same as half a century ago. Blackpool to-day is a town of... > > > > > Dianne > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello there, I hope this email comes through. I don't receive any F-G emails now for some reason. I was looking for information for my Armstrong family who lived in Ederney, Fermanagh in the 18th century and stumbled across this site which mentions some of the old Fermanagh names. It may be of interest to someone looking for links in the area;_ https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148 Kind regards, Di Armstrong [https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c0.0.200.200/p200x200/15350573_622167451296252_1560984070750980334_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7bfd917adace5bc73a90d55a0791f699&oe=5B2A465B]<https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148> Ederney Village - Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ederneyvillage/posts/673008486212148> www.facebook.com BUNDORAN SCANDAL. Bundoran 50 years ago was as large as Blackpool. To-day Bundoran is still the same as half a century ago. Blackpool to-day is a town of... Dianne

My Great Great Grandfather was William Elliott (1833 - 1874) born Fermanagh. His father was also William. He married Ellen Armstrong (1839 - 1907) in *Trory* on 6 Feb 1855 . Her father was Edward Armstrong. They had 4 children born in Fermanagh - Margaret Jane 1858; Elizabeth 1860;Sarah 1862; and Annie 1864 then Thomas 1867, Rebecca 1869, Susan 1873 born in Lancashire. I have suspicions that there is a link to “Orange Peggy"- "Queen of Trasna". I am hoping to connect with persons interested in this line and look forward to being part of the group! Sue, great to have another descendant searching for Elliott roots in Fermanagh. I have corresponded with two other researchers connected to Orange Peggy and the Elliott family of Trasna. Unfortunately a computer malfunction, so my correspondence with both Madelene Inglis who descends from this Elliott family and Henry Robinson, then President of the Magheracross Historical Society who is connected to the McQuaid family (Peggy’s maiden name) is no longer available! There is however some information about this Trasna Elliott family on Google. This www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm link will give you the transcribed parish records for the Fermanagh churches in the area you are searching. Hopefully the B.D and M. records for both your Elliott and Armstrong families have been recorded. Best Wishes, Carole (Elliott) Searching for William Elliott and Rebecca Wilson of Irvinestown and associated Moffit, Irvine, Hunter and Meldrum families from the same area

My 4 times gt grandfather was Rev.George Armstrong from Fermanagh born about 1760/1765. I think Inniskillen. Perhaps related to Ellen Arnstrong? Lorra www.radleysofcork.bigpondhosting.com -----Original Message----- From: Sue Winn Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 7:56 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Elliotts of Fermanagh Good Day and thanks for adding me to your mailing list. My Great Great Grandfather was William Elliott (1833 - 1874) born somewhere I haven't yet found in Fermanagh. His father was also William. He married Ellen Armstrong (1839 - 1907) in *Trory* on 6 Feb 1855 . Her father was Edward Armstrong. They had 4 children born in Fermanagh - Margaret Jane 1858; Elizabeth 1860; Sarah 1862; and Annie 1864. By 1867 they were in St. Helens, Lancashire when their son Thomas was born. They went on to have 2 more children, Rebecca in 1869 (my great grandmother) and Susan in 1873. I am informed that the family were strong Orangemen and continued to be so when they crossed the Irish Sea. I and another relative have suspicions that there is a link to "Orange Peggy"- "Queen of Trasna" but as yet have been unable to confirm this. I am hoping to connect with persons interested in this line and look forward to being part of the group! Sue Winn _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

oops..error in my previous message...William Elliott is my 2x great grandfather...

Good Day and thanks for adding me to your mailing list. My Great Great Grandfather was William Elliott (1833 - 1874) born somewhere I haven't yet found in Fermanagh. His father was also William. He married Ellen Armstrong (1839 - 1907) in *Trory* on 6 Feb 1855 . Her father was Edward Armstrong. They had 4 children born in Fermanagh - Margaret Jane 1858; Elizabeth 1860; Sarah 1862; and Annie 1864. By 1867 they were in St. Helens, Lancashire when their son Thomas was born. They went on to have 2 more children, Rebecca in 1869 (my great grandmother) and Susan in 1873. I am informed that the family were strong Orangemen and continued to be so when they crossed the Irish Sea. I and another relative have suspicions that there is a link to "Orange Peggy"- "Queen of Trasna" but as yet have been unable to confirm this. I am hoping to connect with persons interested in this line and look forward to being part of the group! Sue Winn

Hi Carole I've only just discovered Rootsweb and am thrilled to find people looking for Elliotts from Fermanagh. My Grt Grandfather was William Elliott born +/- 1833 in Fermanagh (not quite sure where). He married Ellen Armstrong in Trory in 1855. They later moved to NW England. There is some discussion that there is a link to Orange Peggy from Trasna, but we can't find the missing generational link. Would love to hear from you on this topic. Sue Winn

Hi Brenda, My ggg grandmother was Mary (or Anne) (or Maryanne??) JOHNSTON born 1757 Colaghty - daughter of Matthias & Elizabeth JOHNSTON. I don’t have any sources for this information - it was contained in a family tree I inherited some years ago. Over the years I have collected bits of information regarding JOHNSTONs of Colaghty if you would like this information. I don’t know how common the name Muldoon was but I know there were a few of them married and came to the south coast of New South Wales. Margaret in Oz. > On 30 Apr 2018, at 1:01, Brenda and Chuck Edmonds <beedmonds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Can anyone identify with any of these > > > Jane JOHNSTON d/o Andrew = January 9 1855 David Weir d/o Jno Weir Colaghty Fermanagh > had son John >

My 4th gt grandfather was Rev.George Armstrong born circa 1760. He married Charlotte Besnard dtr of Julius Caesar Besnard, French Huguenot. I think his mother was Margaret Irvine married to Philip Armstrong (??) My other 3gt gfr was Henry Lindsey of Cork originally of County Down. I believe they were originally Border Reivers until outlawed by James I of Eng. and power of clans was broken in 1603. I have some info on these people if anyone wants it. Lorra www.radleysofcork.bigpondhosting.com

Peter Reilly born ninth June 1859 Belturbet, son of John Reilly, labourer, and Mary Reilly formerly Gillice. Registered Belturbet, Co Cavan on 17th June 1889. That is exactly as shown in the Register. The mother was GILLEECE, but registered as GILLICE. I've posted this entry (a) as a surprise for my friend, (b) to illustrate how surnames become corrupted by Registrars who spell them Phonetically. Viola Sent from my iPad

Can anyone identify with any of these Andrew JOHNSTON = August 29, 1809 Mary JOHNSTON - William JOHNSTON s/o Andrew = May 26, 1864 Susan Muldoon d/o John Muldoon Isabella JOHNSTON d/o Andrew Killenshen Farm = June 12, 1852 John JOHNSTON s/o Henry JOHNSTON Henry JOHNSTON s/o Andrew = March 30, 1850 Mary Green, d/o of John Green had son William Andrew Johnson s/o Andrew = Nov. 16, 1854 Catherine Breaden d/o Edward Weir Andrew JOHNSTON s/o Andrew = July 17, 1862 Ellen Liddle d/o Robert Liddle Jane JOHNSTON d/o Andrew = January 9 1855 David Weir d/o Jno Weir Colaghty Fermanagh had son John Margaret JOHNSTON d/o Andrew = Dec 4, 1851 Richard Arnold s/o William Arnold Joseph JOHNSTON s/o Andrew = 1861 Anne JOHNSTON Andrew JOHNSTON s/o Andrew = 1867 Elizabeth Rooney Andrew JOHNSTON (no father stated) = 1875 Mary Anne Welsh Also —— Susan Muldoon 16 years old 1832 Derryvolin Census Any information would be helpful. Thanks Brenda (Hassard) Edmonds

> Hello Margaret, do you have a Walter Ferguson in this large family? Doug Fletcher

Hello Margaret Barnes My 3rd Great grandparents are John F FERGUSON (born about 1794 died 28 March 1852 in Enniskillen, Fermanagh) married Jane MORROW (born 1796 Dungannon, Tyrone, Northern Ireland died Felltimber Creek, Victoria, Australia 13 Aug 1870). Most of their 11 children were born in or around Enniskillen, Fermanagh. She came to Victoria on the Ship Gypsy Bride in March 1857 following some of her children ie daughter Jane FERGUSON and bringing some with her. Jane Morrow is the daughter of George MORROW and Jane CAMERON from County Tyrone. Through DNA testing I know there was a sister Catherine MORROW born 1802 who married a Lyth PRIESTMAN in Armagh, Northern Ireland and then went to Canada. I wonder if there are other siblings of George MORROW and Jane CAMERON from County Tyrone. Perhaps they also married and headed for County Fermanagh. Regards Sheryl Campbell Western Australia 4. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLDFERGUSON and MORROW (Margaret Barnes) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:17:26 +1000 From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: FERMANAGH-GOLDFERGUSON and MORROW To: Fermanagh List <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DCC6CFF3-2958-4AF9-BD32-CCEAAABC5875@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hullo Sheryl, Who are the Morrows you are looking for? Do you have information regarding townlands etc. Margaret in Oz End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 120 ***********************************************

There may be no connection, but.... Apart from this and a number of other Rootsweb lists, I’m also a subscriber to several Yahoo based lists. Yahoo has been causing grief with posts being timed out and returned to sender as undeliverable after about four days. I’m receiving the posts of one history Yahoo list to which I subscribe whose membership is largely British and European based, but my posts are not getting through to it. The owner of another yahoo list is Australian based and he’s having the same problems whereas the North American members don’t. So is there a common geographical connection with these problems? David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Eilish Gmail Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:57 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -For Marge Hi Marge, I can post directly to FG, but not reply. If I reply to a post, it goes to the person who posted but not the list. I have tried twice to email you directly but both failed. Gremlins again! Eilish --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Eilish, I received this email. Margaret > On 29 Apr 2018, at 10:57, Eilish Gmail <eilish7@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Marge, > > I can post directly to FG, but not reply. If I reply to a post, it goes to the person who posted but not the list. > > I have tried twice to email you directly but both failed. Gremlins again! > > Eilish > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hi Marge, I can post directly to FG, but not reply. If I reply to a post, it goes to the person who posted but not the list. I have tried twice to email you directly but both failed. Gremlins again! Eilish

Received Eilish Margaret > On 29 Apr 2018, at 10:32, Eilish Gmail <eilish7@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Dear David, My speculation that the path to the killer might have come through one of the conventional DNA analysis providers [FTDNA, Ancestry, 23and Me, etc.] was incorrect. Additional information has now come out to the effect that the track the police used was a separate website, GedMatch, that offers the service of pooling reports from the basic providers and attempting to locate matches. Although I joined GedMatch some time back (so some of my data is there), I don’t really use it for much. GedMatch’s attraction for the investigators was that it’s apparently an open-source volunteer service without much in the way of privacy protections. Jack > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jack Fallin <jakff@astound.net> > Subject: Digest, Vol 14, Issue 119; DNA and the Golden State Killer > Date: April 27, 2018 at 7:18:43 PM PDT > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > Hey David, > > We can expect to see a lot of this sort of publicity. I would imagine that they searched for Y-DNA matches (perhaps by just signing on using the crime Y-DNA as that of a customer). With matches in hand they likely split it geographically and looked hard at families in roughly the right locations. Still, it was a shot in the dark because, compared with the overall population, very few people have actually tested. > > What the quoted story doesn’t include, as some do, is that they then captured some actual DNA from the suspect and that’s what is going to convict him. The DNA used by the FBI and others is a different test from any offered by the commercial companies. It’s essentially an STR test that tests fast changing locations on autosomal chromosomes. Because the locations change quickly they are poor candidates for the kind of long-range connections genealogists are looking for - but they are precisely what is needed to pinpoint a single individual. > > The quote from a “public defender” (i.e. a defense attorney paid by the state) that “[p]eople who submit DNA for ancestors testing are unwittingly becoming genetic informants on their innocent family,” is just silly - it’s the positive identification through fast changing STR sites that will convict a person, not the slow system genealogists use. Finding criminals like this one benefits all of us, and those who contributed deserve credit for ‘unwittingly’ helping to capture a monster. > > Jack Fallin > Walnut Creek, CA > >> On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:02 PM, fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 4. Genealogical Websites, DNA & the Golden State Killer (DSA2003) >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:01:56 +0800 >> From: DSA2003 <dsa2003@iinet.net.au <mailto:dsa2003@iinet.net.au>> >> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Genealogical Websites, DNA & the Golden State >> Killer >> To: Fermanagh Gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> >> Message-ID: <5B5405DB9F944887A51FE4CCF35DB377@DavidHP> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> G’day everyone >> >> Over recent years, there’s been a lot of talk about DNA on FG, so I thought that members may be interested in this story about the recent arrest of the “Golden State Killer” in San Francisco. >> >> < https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/27/golden-state-killer-caught-using-genealogy-website-police-reveal/ <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/27/golden-state-killer-caught-using-genealogy-website-police-reveal/> > >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> David Armstrong >> >> Maylands >> Western Australia >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> >> End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 119 >> *********************************************** >