Hi everyone -- I'm pretty new to this group, am searching for my CROZIER roots (posted a few days ago), and I'm beginning to believe that the only way I'm likely to find them is through DNA. . . it's been a long, researching journey so far. . . I do know, through my brother's Y-chromosome DNA testing, that we are descendants of the CROZIERs who were Border Reivers, so likely were planted in Ulster in the 16th / 17 th century. My g-g-grandfather Richard Crozier was (according to his gravestone) born in Tyrone, but I'm beginning to question that, and wonder if his birthplace might have been Fermanagh. Have you (we) in the Fermanagh-Gold group been maintaining a DNA matching group? Also, I'm going to be in Fermanagh after the Ulster Historical Foundation's conference and tour in September, and I'd be so very happy to connect with some Croziers -- even just to share a cup of coffee over a review of our own genealogical travels.

Kathleen, If the answer to Viola`s question is that their religion was C of I, you may want to look at the Baxters in 1901 Tattenabuddagh. In house # 19, William Baxter was living with his wife Sarah Ann (Johnson) and five children. (Sarah's parents were William Johnson/Ann Jones) I believe Sarah is related to the Johnsons living in house #5 in Killyfole 1901. I think Anne there was Anne Lang, Sarah's mother. So in #5 Killyfole 1901, widow Anne Johnston was living with a son and two grand-daughters. Also living with Anne Johnston were three Parsons who likely were related to her, including a married mother and two children. These two children were born in America. And living in the same house was an unmarried Thomas Baxter. Maybe just a wild guess but one never knows. James -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:44 AM To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: BAXTER forebears Kathleen, In order to help you researching your ancestor, we would need to have more information you have on his Irish Origins before he left Ireland. For instance, There were 9 Charles BAXTERs in the whole of Ireland in the 1901 Census which is the first surviving records of households for the whole of Ireland. Where was your Charles BAXTER from before he left Ireland 1846? What age, religion was he? Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 13:07, Kathleen Harrison <baxterlittle@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived > in the USA in 1846,

Kathleen, In order to help you researching your ancestor, we would need to have more information you have on his Irish Origins before he left Ireland. For instance, There were 9 Charles BAXTERs in the whole of Ireland in the 1901 Census which is the first surviving records of households for the whole of Ireland. Where was your Charles BAXTER from before he left Ireland 1846? What age, religion was he? Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 13:07, Kathleen Harrison <baxterlittle@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived > in the USA in 1846,

I am researching Baxters; great grandfather was Charles Baxter who arrived in the USA in 1846, On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:32 AM, The Wimble <wwimble@iinet.net.au> wrote: > I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). > With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in > this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. > In > March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to > three > 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a > tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems > from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & > William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b > 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is > anyone > researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or > relationships between them all?! Barbara > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

When I used to take Family Tree magazine I saw a letter from Sir Joseph STAMER who was enquiring about the SEDBOROUGH holdings in Fermanagh. His Ancestor was descended from a union of his early planter family and a SEDBOROUGH. That was over 30 years ago, before Internet and on line records. There are still a number of BAXTER entries in the Fermanagh Lakeland Telephone Directory. Ranging from Enniskillen, Tempo, Ballinamallard, and other places. STAMERs left before the Famine according to Sir Joseph. Mount SEDBOROUGH is shown on the local maps, was the seat of that family. Viola Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2018, at 06:32, The Wimble <wwimble@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). > With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in > this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. In > March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to three > 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a > tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems > from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & > William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b > 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is anyone > researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or > relationships between them all?!

> I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is > by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son > & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William > talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). Barbara, Did you see this link to the 1641 Deposition of the Rathmoran Baxters, found whilst searching for a William Elliot of Rathmoran, High Sherrif of Fermanagh in 1694? http://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/41653.html <http://1641dep.abdn.ac.uk/items/show/41653.html> Carole Elliott. > > > > >

I was very interested to read Claim No 77 in the Depositions of 1641. It is by William BAXTER late of Rathmort (Rathmoran? Clankelly) gent & eldest son & heir apparent of Martin BAXTER of Carndallan & Belturbet, Cavan. William talks about he & his sister & uncle, John Warren of Belturbet (& Dublin). With a little internet digging Sir Hugh Wirrell/Worrell passed on land in this same area to a Rev. & Martine BAXTER, gent of Belturbet in Dec 1612. In March 1629, similarly Sir Gilbert Eccles re-granted Rathmoran Manor to three 'gents', one being Matryn BAXTER. In 1613 (another?) William BAXTER was a tenant for English Undertaker John Sedborough nearby. My family stems from BAXTER (brothers?) James 1746 -1834 (married Mary Johnson/ Egan) & William b 1747 in Tattnabuddagh; George b 1751, Patrick b 1755, James b 1763, John b1767 & Robert b1769 - all in nearby Cooneen townland. Is anyone researching BAXTERs? Or could anyone offer any thoughts on connections or relationships between them all?! Barbara --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

G’day Warren Irwin and Irvine were interchangeable, along with Irving, Urwin and a few other variants (Erwin?). A lot of the interchangeability will have to do with the accent of the person speaking and how the clerk recording the information hears the name. I have the mid-19th century case of a cousin from Somerset in England, having her given names of Emma Jane recorded as Imogen by a clerk in New South Wales! If you say Emma Jane with a strong Zumerzet accent, you can readily understand how the clerk heard Imogen. Also, bear in mind that in the early 19th century, the clerks wouldn’t having been copying from other documents but would have been receiving the information orally. Regards David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Warren Dean Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:01 AM To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: thoughts, please . . . My KERR - ARMSTRONG ancestors from Fermanagh settled near Brussels, Morris township, Huron County, Ontario, very close to Turnberry. They were somehow related to an IRVINE family. (I am working on that!) My question is whether IRWIN and IRVINE were more or less interchangeable back then, in Canada if not Ireland, or were they definitely distinct Irish families? Thanks. Warren Dean --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

My KERR - ARMSTRONG ancestors from Fermanagh settled near Brussels, Morris township, Huron County, Ontario, very close to Turnberry. They were somehow related to an IRVINE family. (I am working on that!) My question is whether IRWIN and IRVINE were more or less interchangeable back then, in Canada if not Ireland, or were they definitely distinct Irish families? Thanks. Warren Dean > On Jun 8, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Jan Clizer <jaclizer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Am grasping at straws trying to reasonably identify somewhere to begin > looking in Ireland ... > > 1820's: several siblings born to John & Deborah Irwin, said to be in > Fermanagh. The family emigrated in 1831 > Canada, stayed in Montreal 3 > years. Spent the next 30-odd years in Ontario, during which time my > ancestor Francis Irwin (3rd great uncle) founded the 'town' of Belmore in > Turnberry Twp., Ontario. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the town *might *be > named after where the family left in Ireland? So maybe search in the > vicinity of Belmore Mountain, outside of Enniskillen? > > OR.... around Castle Coole, which has been the seat of the Earls of Belmore > for many moons .... thoughts? > > I'm attending the Ulster Historical Foundation's wonderful research tour in > early September .... PRONI's absolutely fantastic, but I've learned it's > pretty fruitless to search unless one knows of a place to begin looking > .... :)) > > Thank you! > > Jan > > -- > > Jan Clizer - Painting Scotland > > e: jan@janclizerpainting.com > gallery: http://www.janclizerpainting.com > blog: http://janclizerpainting.blogspot.com > > tel: US 1-208-771-2912 > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Robert I totally agree. The past has faded into oblivion. I suppose that is why we are trying to find the records we seek. But everyone living today can help to build the foundations for a better and inclusive future. Every new day uncovers a shooting, stabbing or other atrocities in our society presently. Parental control and example was paramount in my childhood. Thank God for my good parents who helped where help was needed and that is why I try to meet visitors to Fermanagh find their Roots. Viola Sent from my iPad

Morning Viola. If only we had more Gordon Wilsons. A nation that keeps one eye on the past is wise. A nation that keeps two eyes on the past is blind. best wishes Robert

Morning Viola. If only we had more Gordon Wilsons A nation that keeps one eye on the past is wise. A nation that keeps two eyes on the past is blind. best wishes Robert Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: Viola Wiggins <vmaw3434@gmail.com> Sent: 10 June 2018 23:04 To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: Fw: Re: Claims made in Fermanagh in 1641 Robert, Thank you for posting the links to claims for compensation. It makes fascinating reading and most of those named as claimants would have emigrated to obtain a happy life. No wonder that the Hurts of that time are carried forward by some even until today. That Rory Maguire mentioned was referred to in my youth as Red Rory, because of the Bloodshed. The incidents referred to happened in Fermanagh at that time. Multiply that by 32, because it happened in every County of Ireland. But why should the actions of one extremist colour or affect our relations with Present day relationships? That was how my parents taught us to be good tolerant persons and good neighbours. Helping where we could. I attended the Funeral of an 86 year old Cousin of a Cousin today in Enniskillen. Meta, her sister Jean and I had been in the Girls Brigade together in the late 1940s & early 1950s. I had Lodged with her brother, Frankie and his Wife Eva. In Fact Eva was my Matron of Honour in 1955. I met people I had not seen for about 65 or 70 years. The Church was full and the overflow listened to the service from the adjoining Hall. She had planned every detail of the service by instructions contained in a letter to her Pastor written about a Month ago. As the Coffin was wheeled out of the church she had requested the playing of Louis Armstrong singing "What a wonderful day". If ever anyone deserved a place in Heaven it is that lady who lived and practiced a true Christian life of Love and Forgiveness as long as I have known her. She was descended from one of those families mentioned as Claimants. Thank you again Robert. Regards Viola _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

To check people buried in cemeteries in Ontario put in the subject line- Ontario cemetery finding aid. If you don't know the cemetery but know the county just put that in along with the name and surname. If you only know the name just put that in. You will receive many more names. Sunday Thompson > To post a message to the Fermanagh-Gold mailing list, send an email to > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com. > > In Fermanagh, my ancestors are from: Irvinestown, Enniskillen, Doora of > Ederny Drumadraghy and Kesh. > > Surnames are: Hurst, Mcready(Mcreedy) and Sproul(e) > > I have search a lot to find what cemeteries they are buried in. > Actually, any info that I can obtain would be a treasure. > > DeLories > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:20:55 +1000 > From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: roll call quinn and Wilkins > To: Fermanagh List <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E6DB69C5-52E4-4AA6-8E46-F3EE4156689B@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Margaret you may already have had your question answered but the > connection between Templecarne and Fermanagh is that the Parish of > Templecarne covers part of Fermanagh on its east and part of Co. Donegal > on its west. > > I hope this makes sense. > > Margaret in Oz. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:22:16 +1000 > From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLDRe: Roll Call > To: Fermanagh List <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <748F96BA-D945-4FC3-98AD-5DA35BA4DCF1@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hullo Dianne, > > Which company did you test with? As you will remember I believe Jamed > Bedad was my gggg uncle and I would be interested > to see if we have any matches. > > Kind regards, > Margaret in Oz. > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists.  Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to > mailto:fermanagh-gold-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Your privacy is important to us.  View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information.  Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Robert, Thank you for posting the links to claims for compensation. It makes fascinating reading and most of those named as claimants would have emigrated to obtain a happy life. No wonder that the Hurts of that time are carried forward by some even until today. That Rory Maguire mentioned was referred to in my youth as Red Rory, because of the Bloodshed. The incidents referred to happened in Fermanagh at that time. Multiply that by 32, because it happened in every County of Ireland. But why should the actions of one extremist colour or affect our relations with Present day relationships? That was how my parents taught us to be good tolerant persons and good neighbours. Helping where we could. I attended the Funeral of an 86 year old Cousin of a Cousin today in Enniskillen. Meta, her sister Jean and I had been in the Girls Brigade together in the late 1940s & early 1950s. I had Lodged with her brother, Frankie and his Wife Eva. In Fact Eva was my Matron of Honour in 1955. I met people I had not seen for about 65 or 70 years. The Church was full and the overflow listened to the service from the adjoining Hall. She had planned every detail of the service by instructions contained in a letter to her Pastor written about a Month ago. As the Coffin was wheeled out of the church she had requested the playing of Louis Armstrong singing "What a wonderful day". If ever anyone deserved a place in Heaven it is that lady who lived and practiced a true Christian life of Love and Forgiveness as long as I have known her. She was descended from one of those families mentioned as Claimants. Thank you again Robert. Regards Viola

Bear in mind that a lot of these claims were greatly exaggerated best regards Robert Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

I thought the listers might find this interesting reading, considering that 17th century material is hard to come by: Depositions after the 1641 Rebellion [ Claims made in County Fermanagh ...<http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=552> A Free Page (Claims made in County Fermanagh), detailing Depositions after the 1641 Rebellion. http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=552 happy hunting Robert

I thought the listers might find this interesting reading, considering that 17th century material is hard to come by: Depositions after the 1641 Rebellion [ Claims made in County Fermanagh ...<http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=552> A Free Page (Claims made in County Fermanagh), detailing Depositions after the 1641 Rebellion. http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=552 happy hunting Robert ________________________________ From: Anne Sterling <m.anne.sterling@gmail.com> Sent: 06 June 2018 12:57 To: This list is for those researching their ancestors in Fermanagh and surrounding counties in Ireland Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -Re: ARD Brenda, Chuck, Since many Swiss speak French, Hassard could have been a French name. Also, borders have often changed. Just speculating ... A while ago, when I looked at a website about Huguenots, I saw several names of childhood schoolmates. Garrard, LeBar, Leroy come to mind. I wonder if there is any record of French Huguenots coming to Fermanagh, or if they went via England to other parts of Ireland. Anne in Ottawa On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 8:42 AM Brenda and Chuck Edmonds, < beedmonds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Anne Sterling ...re ARD coming from France. I'd never heard that before. > The HASSARD family is reported originally from the French Swiss border. > Regards, > Brenda Hassard Edmonds > St. Thomas, Ontario > > > > > > There could be something about the family lore. > > A 2nd cousin of mine who had never met any of our family said the same > as some of us. “ our Bustard family came from France.” Then, when I made a > “cold call” to a Bustard in Virginia, he mentioned out of the blue and with > no prompting that the Bustards came from France. The 2nd cousin pointed out > that the” ard” ending on the name pointed to it being French. Well... > maybe, but it is the name of a large bird. > > Love your story about the boat ending up in Galway. > > > > Anne, here in rainy Ottawa Canada. > > ************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Val and Vi, THANK YOU SO MUCH for your constructive comments. Will be fun to meet you on the tour, Val! Kind regards, Jan -- Jan Clizer - Painting Scotland e: jan@janclizerpainting.com gallery: http://www.janclizerpainting.com blog: http://janclizerpainting.blogspot.com tel: US 1-208-771-2912

This sounds logical.I have seen a number of tombstones noting the county of origin, including that of my gggf.Peculiar to southern Ontario?Where did their Ontario neighbours come from?Joan On Saturday, June 9, 2018 3:36 AM, Val McLeish <val.mcleish@uclmail.net> wrote: Hi Jan, I think you are spot on with Belmore. The countryside and the views round there are fantastic, and - gut feeling perhaps, - but why would he have chosen the name of an earl, even if he lived nearby? Castle Coole just seems wrong.  choosing the name of a place where they would have left relations and friends I feel would perhaps mean more to an emigrant than the name of an earl? Have a look in one of the Debretts genealogical books - I think there is one called The Landed Families of Ireland or similar, and make sure you are not descended from one of those first, of course! On a smaller scale, an ancestor of mine who lived his adult life in the Channel Islands off the coast of France named his house Bude Cottage. That led me to his birthplace  and the rest of his family on the Devon/Cornwall borders. This was before the days of the internet. Good luck hope you ARE lucky. You will enjoy the course and the trip! Val Mc in Brighton > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:38:04 -0700 > From: Jan Clizer <jaclizer@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -thoughts, please . . . > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: >     <CAD5h=9BsafAdu3u2tRV3wibHkctvh6HB7fdE_+6N7Ff0ATkkoQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Am grasping at straws trying to reasonably identify somewhere to begin > looking in Ireland ... > > 1820's:  several siblings born to John & Deborah Irwin, said to be in > Fermanagh.  The family emigrated in 1831 > Canada, stayed in Montreal 3 > years.  Spent the next 30-odd years in Ontario, during which time my > ancestor Francis Irwin (3rd great uncle) founded the 'town' of Belmore in > Turnberry Twp., Ontario.  Wouldn't it stand to reason that the town *might *be > named after where the family left in Ireland?  So maybe search in the > vicinity of Belmore Mountain, outside of Enniskillen? > > OR.... around Castle Coole, which has been the seat of the Earls of Belmore > for many moons ....  thoughts? > > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jan, I think you are spot on with Belmore. The countryside and the views round there are fantastic, and - gut feeling perhaps, - but why would he have chosen the name of an earl, even if he lived nearby? Castle Coole just seems wrong.  choosing the name of a place where they would have left relations and friends I feel would perhaps mean more to an emigrant than the name of an earl? Have a look in one of the Debretts genealogical books - I think there is one called The Landed Families of Ireland or similar, and make sure you are not descended from one of those first, of course! On a smaller scale, an ancestor of mine who lived his adult life in the Channel Islands off the coast of France named his house Bude Cottage. That led me to his birthplace  and the rest of his family on the Devon/Cornwall borders. This was before the days of the internet. Good luck hope you ARE lucky. You will enjoy the course and the trip! Val Mc in Brighton > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:38:04 -0700 > From: Jan Clizer <jaclizer@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD -thoughts, please . . . > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAD5h=9BsafAdu3u2tRV3wibHkctvh6HB7fdE_+6N7Ff0ATkkoQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Am grasping at straws trying to reasonably identify somewhere to begin > looking in Ireland ... > > 1820's: several siblings born to John & Deborah Irwin, said to be in > Fermanagh. The family emigrated in 1831 > Canada, stayed in Montreal 3 > years. Spent the next 30-odd years in Ontario, during which time my > ancestor Francis Irwin (3rd great uncle) founded the 'town' of Belmore in > Turnberry Twp., Ontario. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the town *might *be > named after where the family left in Ireland? So maybe search in the > vicinity of Belmore Mountain, outside of Enniskillen? > > OR.... around Castle Coole, which has been the seat of the Earls of Belmore > for many moons .... thoughts? > >