Most certainly... but they would have to move away from "home"... The bigger the mix in a mixed marriage the further they moved! DH On 08/03/2015 16:09, Allan & Kathy Lowe via wrote: > Hi All > > On this subject, I wonder if anyone knows of Protestant families with > branches that were Catholic, especially in the early 1800s. > > In the teacher lists Carole posted, I noticed that there were two Stinsons > both teaching in Catholic schools, though our Fermanagh Stinsons of that > time were definitely Protestants. As well, I have found both Catholic and > Protestant records for my predominantly Protestant Carefoot family in > Wicklow in the early 1800s. > > Thanks for your thoughts on this. > > Kathy Lowe

You may have googled them for Ireland but how many of them are in Ireland? You will of course find castellated/fortified houses in Ireland but they are not Peel towers and have their own unique history. Peel towers were built across English/Scottish borders within sight of each other where fires could be lit to warn each other... certainly not the case in Ireland. On 08/03/2015 15:33, Shirley Smith wrote: > Hello, Dave, below is a link that shows some pele towers in Ireland. I > am not implying they can be seen in Fermanagh. > https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVi9ka_xULIMAn3AlnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0dmRibmhwBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMV8x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&va=pele+towers+ireland+map&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

The Probate Registers for NSW are now on Find My Past from 1800-1952 (and FMP are in the middle of a “free weekend”). < http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2015/new-south-wales-will-books-1800-1952/ > FMP have also recently added several databases of Queensland records. David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Veronica Williams via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 2:57 PM To: FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Thomas McCaffrey Check the NSW State Records link for wills. Free search. If you find something you need looked up I could go over and check it for you. Regarding Macken. I know what the fight was about. Trying to identify Phillip Cassidy who was involved and a Thomas Cassidy gave evidence at the enquiry. Trying to find out if it is my Thomas. Veronica --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hello, Dave, below is a link that shows some pele towers in Ireland. I am not implying they can be seen in Fermanagh. https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVi9ka_xULIMAn3AlnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0dmRibmhwBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMV8x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&va=pele+towers+ireland+map&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: "fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Peel towers Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:30:45 +0000 > Was thinking it wasn't used in Ireland! > > This article by T. J. Westropp http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20490552?uid=3738232&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21105570408711 talks about them in Ireland... then T. J. Westropp goes on to say they don't exist!! > > Why talk about them mockingly and then in Note 1 say it isn't used in > Ireland?? Idiot!! > > > DH ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Firstly, thanks to Carole for the original post of the article in the Geelong Advertiser. The article on Robin Armstrong is one I have referred to previously on FG and Robin is, I believe, my ggg grandfather, about whom I have recently posted (also known as Robert). Interestingly, the article first appeared shortly after Robin's death in Enniskillen in the Impartial Reporter in July 1882, without the reference to William, his grandson, but it took over a year for it to appear in the Geelong paper! (No internet then!!) With Frank McHugh's help I found the original article in the Enniskillen Library but I have never seen the Geelong one although I knew it existed. So thank you Carole! Sue in NY - we have discussed Armstrongs and Copelands before, and Robin A. is the grandfather of my g grandfather Robert Armstrong who came to Australia in 1868 and settled first near Geelong on the Bellarine Peninsula, with other Armstrongs (including the William referred to in the article, who was probably a cousin and son of Thomas Armstrong and Jane Ford). Geelong is Victoria's second biggest city after Melbourne and is about an hours drive south west from 'the big smoke'. Robert married Eleanor Pigdon, who came from another prominent family in the Geelong district originally from Northumberland. My grandmother Mary Ann was born on the Bellarine Peninsula, and then about 1880 the family moved to Buln Buln near Warragul as Robert had been appointed manager of a large farming property. Buln Buln is in Gippsland a bit more than an hours drive east from Melbourne. All my grandmother's siblings were born at Buln Buln. The Copelands were also prominent in the Warragul area and Hugh Copeland wrote a history of the region in the 1930s, and it is almost certain that the Armstrongs and Copelands knew each other. So thanks to all for the posts! Cheers John. > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 20:24:08 +1100 > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong - Ballinamallard. > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > Advocate (Melbourne, Vic. : 26 August 1899, p.10. > The death has just been announced of Sir Alexander Armstrong, K.C.B., whose > name is so well known in connection with Arctic exploratory enterprise. > Sir Alexander was a son of the late Mr. A. Armstrong, of Craghan, Ballinamallard, > County Fermanagh, and was educated at Trinity College, Dublin, and at the University > of Edinburgh. He was known as an author, and was a Fellow of the Royal Society. > > > Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 5 September 1883 p.2. > A Fermanagb paper relates the death of a centenarian as follows : > Robin Armstrong, - a respectable old millwright, residing at Clabby, > near Ballinamallard, died recently in his hundred and sixth year. > At his funeral in Clabby graveyard, some of the fifth generation > of his offspring were present. > An anecdote is told of him which is said to be a fact. > The late Hon. and Rev. J.. C. Maude saw him dressing a > stone at Derrykeeghan Mill one day, and addressing him asked - > Robin, what becomes of the mill stones ? > 'Your Reverence,' he replied, ' every seven years the parish eats > the millstone.' > Mr Wm. Armstrong, Britannia-street, Geelong West, is a grandson > of tho deceased. > > Carole. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Was thinking it wasn't used in Ireland! > > This article by T. J. Westropp http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/20490552?uid=3738232&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21105570408711 talks about them in Ireland... then T. J. Westropp goes on to say they don't exist!! > > Why talk about them mockingly and then in Note 1 say it isn't used in > Ireland?? Idiot!! > > > DH

Hi Shirley, Google Ireland uses the two words interchangeably and have the same meaning. Interestingly, it seems different localities favour one or the other spelling. Could this be the difference between Scottish/English medieval language perhaps? Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Smith via Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 11:30 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Pele or Peel towers Do anybody know which is correct pele towers or peel towers -- or are they the one and the same? Also, I have so many messages that say Parishes, but they are not about Parishes.Please update the subject line. Shirley ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Was thinking it wasn't used in Ireland! This article by T. J. Westropp talks about them in Ireland... then T. J. Westropp goes on to say they don't exist!! Why talk about them mockingly and then in Note 1 say it isn't used in Ireland?? Idiot!! DH

Never heard them called that in Ireland... fortified houses, yes but not Peel Houses. Weren't they along the English/Scottish borders?? Plenty of fortified houses and small castles in Ireland. DH On 08/03/2015 12:40, Shirley Smith via wrote: > Thank you, Dee. My cousin was just visiting and told me I should be sure to see these towers If I ever get to Ireland. I had seen them in the Border area of England/Scotland. We looked at photos, and I think the Irish towers are taller, at least from the pictures. Shirley

> Still no clue if any of these are the son of Patrick McCaffrey buried up in Boho. :-( Another possibility maybe, Janet? The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 18 November 1873, p.1. On the 15th instant, by special license, at St. Augustine's Church, Balmain, by the Rev. Father Pacilio, JOHN, eldest son of PATRICK McCAFFREY, county Fermanagh, Ireland, to HELENA, eldest daughter of JAMES O'HEA, of Brisbane, formerly of Cahir- lairg House, Cork, Ireland. Not yours Janet, but may be of interest? Carole. Albury Banner and Wodonga Express NSW : 24 May 1907, p.18. A Family Feud. The; story of. an eight-year-old tragedy ~~ was told recently at Rosslea, Co. Fermanagh, when John M'Caffrey, was returned for trial, charged with the wilful murder of Patrick M'Mahon, in June, 1889. The two families had a bitter feud over the disputed ownership of a piece of land dividing their farms. The murdered man and the accused quarrelled. Words were followed by blows and they came to grips in the middle of a stream dividing their land, and, after a desperate struggle, M'Mahon was pulled out of the water bleeding from the leg and head, and died afterwards. M'Caffrey disappeared, and, although the whole country was searched, no trace of him could be found. On one occasion he was pursued by the police, very hotly, but escaped into a farm house, whose occupants were absent at the time. A milk churn stood on the floor of one of the rooms, and into this McCaffrey made his way, pulling the cover over him, and although the police searched every corner of the house, they failed to discover their man. Afterwards M'Caffery attended an Orange demonstration wearing his full regalia, and subsequently he reached Belfast, where in the guise of a cattle drover, he embarked on one of the cross Channel steamers. On reaching the English side he made his way to Thornaby-on-Tees, where, under the name of Patrick Boyle, he was married, and lived until he was arrested in December. His arrest was brought about in a peculiar manner. His mother left her home and announced her intention of settling down in England. Police scouts followed her on her journey, and thereby discovered the hiding-place of her son. >

Thank you, Dee. My cousin was just visiting and told me I should be sure to see these towers If I ever get to Ireland. I had seen them in the Border area of England/Scotland. We looked at photos, and I think the Irish towers are taller, at least from the pictures. Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dee" <deebg@bigpond.net.au> To: "'Shirley Smith'" <smith_shirley_ross@juno.com>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: FERMANAGH-GOLD Pele or Peel towers Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 14:13:39 +1000 Hi Shirley, Google Ireland uses the two words interchangeably and have the same meaning. Interestingly, it seems different localities favour one or the other spelling. Could this be the difference between Scottish/English medieval language perhaps? Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Smith via Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 11:30 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Pele or Peel towers Do anybody know which is correct pele towers or peel towers -- or are they the one and the same? Also, I have so many messages that say Parishes, but they are not about Parishes.Please update the subject line. Shirley ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Hello, I have the army record of great/great grandfather William Quinn > born in 1788/9. The discharge document says he was born at Temple > Cairn near town of what looks like - Pithres??? In County of Fermanagh. > The attestation says his regiment was 27th Foot. Royal Regiment of > Veterens. It also says his discharge corps was Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers > - 27th & 108th Foot. > > Hope someone knows where William was born as I cannot find either of the > named places? Regards Margaret Brookes (Melbourne Margaret, could 'Pithres' be Pettigo? Have another look at the discharge document, could it be misspelt or bad handwriting? Carole. Templecarne ( Pettigo) on the borders of Donegal and Fermanagh. Templecarn is recorded from 1043 on http://www.placenamesni.org/search.php The town of Pettigo is situated part in County Donegal and part in County Fermanagh... >

Margaret, What was the family name? If it was a "Planter" name (Scottish or English) such as Armstrong or Elliot, strong chance he was Protestant. If it was a Gaelic Irish name such as Cassidy or McCaffrey, odds are good he was RC. If it was Kelly, toss a coin. :-) Janet C On 3/8/15 12:31 AM, mbrookes4 wrote: > Hello again, and thank you to the people who gave me suggestions. > Carole's suggestion that the weird word beginning with P was actually > Pettigo and that is very satisfactory to know as at last we know where > William was born. Actually it was Temple Cairn near Pettigo. Before this > we had absolutely nothing except 'Ireland' as his birthplace!! > > > > Now back to work, except one more question would anyone know which church > his family may have belonged? We have not the slightest idea what religion > he was. There is no indication on the army records. He eventually > married a girl Sophia Fox in Newry in 1812. We so far have not found where > - it is just listed in the F.H.M. I sent away through the Morman library > in Melbourne but the film they sent me just had the same information I > already had. When Sophia died in 1850 in New Brunswick the Will says > husband is deceased. No records at all in Canada for him. Sophia and > children are on the New Brunswick census in 1851 which also says they were > in New Brunswick for 20 years. Sophia and her children by this time are > recorded as Wesleyan. > > > > Thanks again. Regards > Margaret. B. > >

OH! Thanks, David Just what I need. Janet On 3/8/15 3:39 AM, DSA2003 wrote: > The Probate Registers for NSW are now on Find My Past from 1800-1952 (and FMP are in the middle of a “free weekend”). > > < http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2015/new-south-wales-will-books-1800-1952/ > > > FMP have also recently added several databases of Queensland records. > > David Armstrong > > Maylands > Western Australia > > From: Veronica Williams via > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 2:57 PM > To: FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Thomas McCaffrey > > Check the NSW State Records link for wills. Free search. If you find something you need looked up I could go over and check it for you. > > Regarding Macken. I know what the fight was about. Trying to identify Phillip Cassidy who was involved and a Thomas Cassidy gave evidence at the enquiry. Trying to find out if it is my Thomas. > > Veronica > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com >

Hi All On this subject, I wonder if anyone knows of Protestant families with branches that were Catholic, especially in the early 1800s. In the teacher lists Carole posted, I noticed that there were two Stinsons both teaching in Catholic schools, though our Fermanagh Stinsons of that time were definitely Protestants. As well, I have found both Catholic and Protestant records for my predominantly Protestant Carefoot family in Wicklow in the early 1800s. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Kathy Lowe -----Original Message----- From: caiside via Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 6:18 AM To: mbrookes4 ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD religion (was Temple Cairn) Margaret, What was the family name? If it was a "Planter" name (Scottish or English) such as Armstrong or Elliot, strong chance he was Protestant. If it was a Gaelic Irish name such as Cassidy or McCaffrey, odds are good he was RC. If it was Kelly, toss a coin. :-) Janet C

Hi Soopy! Yes, Geelong West is in Australia, it is west of Melbourne and Geelong West is west of Geelong. That's a "hard" G. If you Google it, you'll find it. Hope you are well, jump back into the genealogy! Eilish On 8/03/2015 3:04 AM, Soopy46 via wrote: > Hmmm I find this very interesting. You state "Geelong West" Is that > Australia? Because my Copelands went there. And Armstrong was my gg grandmothers > maiden name... > > Haven't been around here for awhile..BUT always looking!!!! lol > > Sue in NY > > > In a message dated 3/7/2015 6:38:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Advocate (Melbourne, Vic. : 26 August 1899, p.10. > The death has just been announced of Sir Alexander Armstrong, K.C.B., whose > name is so well known in connection with Arctic exploratory enterprise. > Sir Alexander was a son of the late Mr. A. Armstrong, of Craghan, > Ballinamallard, > County Fermanagh, and was educated at Trinity College, Dublin, and at the > University > of Edinburgh. He was known as an author, and was a Fellow of the Royal > Society. > > > Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 5 September 1883 p.2. > A Fermanagb paper relates the death of a centenarian as follows : > Robin Armstrong, - a respectable old millwright, residing at Clabby, > near Ballinamallard, died recently in his hundred and sixth year. > At his funeral in Clabby graveyard, some of the fifth generation > of his offspring were present. > An anecdote is told of him which is said to be a fact. > The late Hon. and Rev. J.. C. Maude saw him dressing a > stone at Derrykeeghan Mill one day, and addressing him asked - > Robin, what becomes of the mill stones ? > 'Your Reverence,' he replied, ' every seven years the parish eats > the millstone.' > Mr Wm. Armstrong, Britannia-street, Geelong West, is a grandson > of tho deceased. > > Carole. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Saturday 13 January 1883 p 1 ARMSTRONG.-October 27. nt her parents' residence, Concord, Bessie Rhoda, infant daughter of William and Caroline Armstrong, aged 8 weeks ; also, December 24, after a short illness, William Armstrong, aged 53 years, many years resident at Ashfield, and brother to Mr. Thomas Armstrong,Bombala, formerly of Enniskillen, county of Fermanagh, Ireland. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 5 March 1883 p 1 CASEY.—March 1, at her residence, 37, Crown-street, Woolloomoolloo, suddenly, through the bursting of a blood-vessel, Mrs. M.A. Casey, aged 60 years, native of Enniskillen, county of Fermanagh, Ireland. Home papers please copy. (Mary A. from NSW BDMs no parents) Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 - 1889) Saturday 14 April 1883 p 4 DEATH.M'GUREN.-In loving memory of FRANCIS, youngest son of the late JAMES M'GUREN, of Crockareddy, Enniskillen, county Fermanagh, Ireland, who was accidentally killed at South Grafton, October 13, 1882, leaving a wife and seven children ; aged 48 years. R.I.P. The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) Friday 4 May 1883 p 1 MURPHY.-oñ the 21st April, at St. Vincent's Hospital. Sydney. William Murphy, Esq.. of Skea, Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland, senior partner of the linn of W. Murphy & Co... Cun liamulla; deeply regretted by many friends. R.I.P. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Monday 25 June 1883 p 1 M'NEVIN-KEYS - June 15, 1883, at St. Matthias' Church,Paddington, by the Rev. Zachary Barry, LL.D., Colin M'Nevin, the fourth son of Dougald M'Nevin, Argyleshire, Scotland, to Rebecca, fifth daughter of Thomas Keys, of county Fermanagh, Ireland. The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser (NSW : 1863 - 1947) Friday 22 June 1883 p 2 The second death, which took place on Sunday, 17th instant, was that of Mary, relict of the late John Johnston, and the sad event happened at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. A. Adams, Bourke-street, Surry Hills, Sydney. She had reached the mature age of eighty- one years. The immediate cause of death was bronchitis, but as she had previously suffered from the same complaint, it was feared a second attack might prove fatal, and so it did, though she was attended by Dr. Tarrant. On the following Tuesday she was buried beside her late husband who died some five years ago - in the cemetery at Robertson. She was the mother of seven sons and three daughters, two of whom reside in the old country. She was a native of County Fermanagh, Ireland, and came to the colony with her husband and eight of the family some 23 years ago. They settled first in this district, then removed to their own property at Wingecarribee, and since her husband's death she has resided with her daughter in Sydney, and her children's testimony is that she fulfilled the duties of a good wife and mother. The family, with the exception of the late Mrs. John Moffitt, who died some seventeen years ago, are all living in this and the Wingecarribee districts. The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser (NSW : 1863 - 1947) Tuesday 12 June 1883 p 2 Obituary.-Another old and much esteemed resident of the district has de parted this life. We refer to the late Mr. Joseph Vance of Kangaroo Valley, and formerly of Wesley Park, Kiama, which sad event took place at his residence, Violet Bauk, on the 20th ultimo. He was well known to a large number of the inhabi tants as a quiet, sober, unassuming, honest, industrious man. On his arrival in the colony, 45 years ago, he commenced farm ing in the Wollongong district, and subse quently removed to Wesley Park, which he purchased, and where lie successfully carried on dairy pursuits for many years. Some time since lie disposed of Wesley Park, and removed to the Kangaroo Valley, where he continued the same calling until his death, which occurred after a lingering and painful ill ness of years. He was married to Isabella, is daughter of the late James Armstrong (the 'Bonora centenarian) at Templemaghy, Fermanagh, Ireland, by whom he had fourteen children - nine sons and five daughters-of whom twelve children still survive-seven sons and all the daughters. While recording the departure of the late Mr. Vance, who had attained the age of 66 years, and was never known to have quarrelled with any man or made an enemy, we feel sure that all who kneow him will respect his memory and sympathise with the bereaved family. The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser (NSW : 1863 - 1947) Tuesday 17 July 1883 p 2 CHITTICK-JOHNSTON--On the 13th July, ... by Rev. W. B Hughes, Andrew, third son of the late Gustavus Chittick, County Fermanagh, Ireland, to Lizzie, second daughter of the late Charles Johnston, Gerringong. Clarence and Richmond Examiner and New England Advertiser (Grafton, NSW : 1859 - 1889) Saturday 28 July 1883 p 4 MAGUIRE—CREGAN.—On the 19th instant, at the residence of Mr John Carey, Eatonswill, by the Rev. J. O'Sullivan, assisted by the Rev. Fathers Mitchell and McCabe, MICHAEL MAGUIRE, of Woodford Island, late of Eniskillen, county of Fermanagh, Ireland, to ANNIE, third daughter of JEREMIAH CREGAN, county Limerick, Ireland, niece of Archdeacon Cregan, and sister of the Rev. Fathers Denis and Michael Cregan. The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser (NSW : 1863 - 1947) Friday 20 July 1883 p 2 The next I refer to is that of Mr. Johnstone Morrow, whose suffering and death were similar to that of Mrs. Wilson, except- ing that it was after but a few days suffer- ing. He passed away at 5.30 on the even- ing of the 10th instant. He was born in county Fermanagh, Ireland, and sailed some thirty years ago for this colony, and has spent the greater part of that time in this district. He leaves a widow, three sons, and five daughters to mourn their loss. The remains of both were interred in the Cemetery, the Rev. J. Done officiating at the grave. July 18th, 1883. The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 9 July 1883 p 1 GRAHAM. -On the 6th inst., at his residence, Racecourse Hotel, Malvern, John, third son of the late Samuel and Selina Graham, of Crocradreen, county Fermanagh, Ireland, aged 48 years. Belfast and Dublin papers please copy. Illustrated Australian News (Melbourne, Vic. : 1876 - 1889) Wednesday 3 October 1883 p 167 Little. — On the 10th September, 1883; at the residence of her son-in-law, Fair View, Strathbogio, Theresa, roliet of the lato John Little, Marshall Town, Geelong, and formerly of Drumul.y, county Fermanagh, Ireland. The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1871 - 1912) Saturday 10 November 1883 p 902 DEATH. DUNDAS.-October 23, 1883, in great peace, at his late res adence, Gerringong, near Kiama, New South Wales, after -l»Bf * nets, James, eldest son of Mr. Aaron Dundas, of Derrygoneuy, county Fermanagh, Ireland. ' The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954) Friday 23 November 1883 p 2 MARRIAGE. SMITH—OVENS.—At Charters Towers on the 24th October, J. Smith to Emily Ovens, third daughter of Arthur Ovens Esq., Coraeleon House, Church Hill, Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Ireland. The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) Tuesday 13 November 1883 p 1 CLARKE—BALFE.—On the 27th October, at St. Stephen's Cathedral, by the Rev. D. Fouhy, John Clarke, second son of M. Clarke, saddler, Enniskillen County Fermanagh, Ireland, to Sarah Magdalen Balfe, youngest daughter of Augustin Balfe, formerly of County Meath, Ireland. The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Wednesday 21 November 1883 p 1 JOHNSON - BEATTY - October 25, at St Philip's Church bythe Rev J. D. Langley, Joseph Johnson late of Lancashire, England to Mary second daughter of the late James Beatty, of the county Fermanagh, Ireland. Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1932) Saturday 15 December 1883 p 10 DEATHS. M'LAUGHLIN.-December 3, at Prince Alfred Hos pital, Annie, aged 21 years, eldest daughter of Patrick M'Laughlin, Ederuey, County Fermanagh, Ireland. R.I.P. Ken.

Hi Dave, They could be part of my Dolans, the area is certainly right. Double plots and large or multiple gravestones are a feature of the family even here in Oz. Could you kindly send me an email attachment of the grave in a couple of day's time? That would be wonderful. Today or tomorrow I am having my new computer installed - Windows 8.1 (yuk!) 8 gig RAM, 1 tb hard disc etc, which will put this dear little 2RAM laptop back in the cupboard. It is almost impossible to do the things on it that I have done. Which is why I have not searched very much in Cavan to date. After the Ferrari is installed and the VW Bug is put to sleep just watch me go:) Thanks so much for thinking of me, Dave, as I need to find this family before they farmed Meenagleragh pre c1820's and where they went after it was sold in the 1950's, and their rellies over all that time in Cavan. Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2015 6:33 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Parishes.... DOLAN Dee, did you ever decide where tour Dolans came from?? I was looking through all my photos taken years ago and there is a triple plot for Dolans at the C Of I at Drumreilly... In Co. Leitrim BUT in walking distance of Magauran's Castle in Co. Cavan.. Do you have names/dates from more recent times?? It's just a photo showing 3 g/stones in same plot, some is legible some is not as it was just a general snapshot so not on IGP. Dave On 07/03/2015 02:08, Dee wrote: > Yes, this particular practice was used for many years in penal times. > I like your description of 'neutralisation', very apt. > > Life was horrible for the convicts, but no less sad for the families > they left behind who were forced into near starvation in many cases, > with fathers and husbands actively encouraged to partner convict > females in the Colony and forget their original wives. > > Dee. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just had a look on www.rip.ie at a Methodist Funeral from Pettigo The death has occurred of Victor CRAWFORD, Mill Street, Pettigo, Donegal Funeral leaving his daughter Myrtle Graydon’s home, 20 Boyhill Raod, Tattendery, Maguiresbridge, Co Fermanagh tomorrow, Tuesday, afternoon at 1.30pm for Service in Pettigo Methodist Church at approximately 2.30pm. Interment afterwards in Sydare Cemetery. Family flowers only, please. Donations in lieu, if desired, to Marie Curie c/o Dowlers Funeral Directors, 197 Main Street, Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh. Date Published: Monday 22nd June 2009 http://www.rip.ie/showdn.php?dn=77883/VictorCRAWFORD/Pettigo/Donegal

If you are new here then first thing to do is ask yourself if anyone else has been looking for them by searching all the posts made over the years which are Archived. This is good practice when on any board/mailing list. If you are on Ancestry's county list for example, one should do a search there too for previous posts. Recently there was a post to here from someone looking for kin, none of us knew who they were looking for but a quick search of archives found others researching same people and their was quite a bit of information in those posts. If you go to http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?aop&path=FERMANAGH-GOLD you can do a search by Surname, place name etc Parallel to this list there is the fermanagh gold website and also running parallel is the likes of IGP which is where volunteers contribute bits and pieces. Some people take photos if visiting a g/yard anywhere in Ireland, for example and these can be found here http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm select County... then Headstones http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/photos/tombstones/markers.htm for example.. and there is a search box at top of page! If you scroll down you will see the vast amount added since 1st Jan alone. You mention their religion as Wesleyan.. this is fine as it INDICATES they most probably were not RC here so a starting point would be C of I records, g/yards in Ireland around Pettigo area. You do have an added DISADVANTAGE in the Pettigo is the only village in Ireland which the border of Republic and that of Northern Ireland runs through so you MIGHT be dealing with churches in 2 counties. Dave. On 08/03/2015 05:31, mbrookes4 via wrote: > We have not the slightest idea what religion he was. There is no indication on the army records. He eventually > married a girl Sophia Fox in Newry in 1812. We so far have not found where > - it is just listed in the F.H.M. I sent away through the Morman library > in Melbourne but the film they sent me just had the same information I > already had. When Sophia died in 1850 in New Brunswick the Will says > husband is deceased. No records at all in Canada for him. Sophia and > children are on the New Brunswick census in 1851 which also says they were > in New Brunswick for 20 years. Sophia and her children by this time are > recorded as Wesleyan. > > > > Thanks again. Regards > Margaret. B.