Dave - I agree with Janet's comment: - "I understand your frustration, but sometimes people who grew up in a country where religion is not a huge issue, where people of different denominations intermarry regularly, where records are kept by the civil authorities, don't realize how important religion is to finding records in Ireland." It can be confusing to know what religion someone in Ireland was before the family migrated to Canada. In Canada, my family were Wesleyan Methodists. In Ireland I find them in Church of Ireland registers as early as 1820. Once a person like myself (4th generation Canadian) realizes that C of I was the established church into the 1870's then one can look there for early records. However, something that makes me think that they might have been Methodist in Fermanagh (please correct me if I am wrong) is that the 1820 marriage in indexed among the Marriage License Bonds. Another, is that a cousin of mine whose family has lived in Devenish Parish as early as the 1700s years told me that the people in the lowland areas of Devenish were mostly Methodist. A Fallis cousin told me our family has been Methodist for many years. Bonnie Anderson On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > But they don't even say they don't know!! Just ignore even mentioning it > so one doesn't know if they know or not... can't be bothered asking yet > again!! >
I have a Private tree on Ancestry.. it is discoverable, IF you were to get a Hint for someone on my tree then I'm contactable and more than willing to SHARE.. I am NOT willing just to have all and sundry copy it willy nilly.. add ridiculous records to it and hang it out Publicly for all and sundry to Copy it, Distort it! Because of all the IDIOTIC PUBLIC trees on Ancestry it is harder and harder, cloudier and cloudier to find the TRUTH! HELL CAN FREEZE OVER BEFORE I MAKE MY TREE PUBLIC FOR ALL THE IDIOTs OUT THERE to completely corrupt it .. and if you don't get it, then you don't get it! Yes, I do have 100's and 100's on my Tree, siblings of brides/grooms and what they did... simply because families spiral around each other. If you take a Seymour born 1757! She married and their daughter married a Hall in 1810! Following the Seymours (Why?) gets me another Seymour descendant marrying another of my line over 200 years later!! Doing it this way I can find 3rd cousins marrying each other! There are RIDICULOUS trees copied and copied Publicly on Ancestry so unbelievably distorted it's unreal. Not ONE of them are willing to even reply to me.... By totally pulling them apart and actually researching them I have them all straighten out all the way back to Domesday Book... and beyond!! Putting a Public Tree for all and sundry to distort is completely irresponsible!!!!! My Tree has connected people in NZ to people in S.Africa researching their kin because of the names Hints they got via my Private but findable tree on Ancestry.. I have connected a lot of people together researching people I have on my tree because of the Hints people got from my tree! Yes, when I'm stuck I put a Private tree on Ancestry using Guesstimates/Imagination ... IF I get Hints then I know WHAT things that need to be researched. Then after research and only then do I add them to, or ignore them, from my Tree. So... you may find my Tree with only 80 sources for maybe 800 people BUT I do know who the other 720 are, can give them sourced to anyone who connects to them, I only put sources in for my direct line but there is NOT one person on my tree that does not have source(s).. I have records filmed and even some Church records recorded on movie camera simply because I didn't have time to photo page after page.. IF you found a Hint for someone on my tree that is showing as unsourced I can guarantee you I can provide the source!! Why anyone will ridicule me for not putting it up as a Public Tree is beyond me, knowing all the irresponsible people out there... If someone connects then they are welcome to contact me... BUT AS I SAY HELL WILL FREEZE OVER BEFORE THEY JUST TAKE!!!! How dare anyone think they are ENTITLED to take my tree!! DH On 09/03/2015 10:54, Robyn Ritchie via wrote: > I so often read on this list, that some lister's just build imaginative > trees to try and learn * hints * for their own trees, but aren't willing to > put their own trees public online, so others can learn from them. > At the end of the day, I still don't get it.
Something to consider in areas of early Ontario (Canada West, then Upper Canada) where settlement was just opening up, the priority was to clear the land of trees, build a log cabin and a shelter for farm animals to protect them from the cold winters; building a church would come later. The nearest church was a long distance away with bad roads to get there. So when the itinerant Methodist ministers, aka "circuit riders" came by it provided the opportunity to baptise the children and marry the couples. Some might have stayed Methodist, some might have eventually return to their original church. --- Just a thought. Bonnie Anderson Kitchener PS: My Irish people arrived in Canada in 1850. By 1853, they had acquired land in the newly surveyed township of Artemesia in Grey County. Coincidentally, the area has the headwaters of a number of rivers, so the land is very marshy. An Irish friend told me "If anyone could, a Fermanagh man could farm it." On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Allan & Kathy Lowe via < fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Dave > > I suppose that rural Ontario was far enough away - though it was the > original Protestants who emigrated! > > Thanks for the info. > > Kathy >
Hi Folks I have found, from the cancelled pages released by the PRONI, that my James Johnston became the tenant of plot 6 Rossmacawinney in 1873. He took over the tenancy from James Carson, for whom I think he had been working. After his death in 1888 the tenancy was taken on by his wife Catherine Johnston, nee Wilson from Greentown, who kept it until 1902. Is there any records anywhere that I can now find the names of the other members of the household? They do not appear in the 1901 censuses of both the UK and Ireland. Catherine and the youngest son are in the UK 1911 census but I can find no record of the second son John Robert Johnston born 23 June 1871. I would love to find out what happened to him so any help will be appreciated. I am coming to NI at the end of April so I can go to the PRONI if needed. David
Although I have been unable to prove a connection between "my" Armstrongs living in the townland of Lisrace during the early 1800's, baptized in the C of I Clones, and very clearly recorded as Methodists in Canada after 1842, I did find reference to other Armstrongs living in the same townland who were converted to Methodism prior to 1795. This was described in a book called "A Methodist Pioneer" by Charles Henry Crookshank which is searchable on google books. In a history of the township where my gggfather settled in Ontario he is described as Methodist and a Sunday School teacher. His brother is similarly described where he settled in Rock Island County, Illinois, USA. I love google books and have been so much more successful finding out information about my families this way than through official records. With all that, my grandfather became a Presbyterian when he married my grandmother who was a daughter of a man from Aberdeen who was a church elder. My father changed to Anglican to please my English mother, and our daughter was brought up in her Danish father's Lutheran church. All Protestant of course, so perhaps not surprising. Margot
I just recently subscribed to FindMyPast because I wanted to search their newspaper collection. The very first day I found a coroner's report that led me to an obituary for my great great grandfather. Then, I started collecting information about the family of a great great great grandfather. I have found all sorts of things in the newspapers that are about my family: births, marriages, deaths, bankruptcies, robbers who invaded his store, lawsuits, an article where he with others was trying to reform the Methodist church, etc. I have had ancestry for years so did not try to look at censuses on FMP. Both FMP and ancestry have old parish records, and these have enabled me to get back two more generations in the family of the great great great grandfather. First break in the brick wall for this man. Shirley
> I decided to try this site while it was free. So far I have found the > same information for Irish BMD's as I would find on familysearch.org - the > same applies for English BMD's. Also I found transcriptions from David > Elliott's Devenish Parish Registers. > Perhaps someone could advise me the value of subscribing to this site. Bonnie, like you I didn't find anything new in the records for FMP. But it was both the Irish and English newspapers that came up with some wonderful records and items about Fermanagh. I found nothing for my families, but wonderful records for the townlands where they lived and items of interest about their neighbours in those townlands. Also I now know (I had always wondered) that none of my family were murdered, had their houses or crops burned, or were listed in the Births, Marriages or Deaths in the Enniskillen newspaper or other papers:-) The newspapers really opened my eyes to the conditions in Fermanagh during the 19th century and gave me a better insight into why my families and so many other families emigrated. HTHs, Carole, still searching for Elliotts, Moffats, Irvines, Wilsons and Hunters, all from Fermanagh.
David, I understand your frustration, but sometimes people who grew up in a country where religion is not a huge issue, where people of different denominations intermarry regularly, where records are kept by the civil authorities, don't realize how important religion is to finding records in Ireland. And in many cases they just don't know what their ancestors' religion was. But I totally agree with you on keeping trees private on Ancestry. I too had a similar experience when I gave information to someone about a man I researched for my local historical society (not a relative)> I was in contact with one of his descendants, shared what I knew. The next thing I knew was his information was posted ALONG WITH a bunch of WRONG information linking him back two generations to another family of the same name, but a family I had already proved he was not related to. And of course they had not a shred of source for the conclusion they had jumped to. So now this mistake is out there and others will see and copy it. My favorite copying disaster though is the one I mentioned recently, in which someone mistook the three-letter abbreviation for Australia (AUS) for Austria, and now about six trees on Ancestry have the same info for this Stinson from Austria and Germany!! who died in Australia! Janet C On 3/9/15 12:12 PM, Dave H wrote: > Yes people had a lot more freedom when they left Ireland BUT for > trying to find people/records IN Ireland helpers need some idea of > what religion they might have been IN IRELAND!! > > Personally I have given up trying to help people in other counties, > left the list/boards simply because of the number that can't be > bothered including everything that might HELP THE HELPER to find people! > > ON SOME, WHEN A ROLL CALL WAS MADE THEY WERE TOLD clearly to include > religion... post after post after post with a pile of WAFFLE about > what they did outside Ireland... ALL TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding > stuff in/for Ireland... and only TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding stuff > in/for Ireland. > > > Half the time I couldn't make out who or what they were looking for IN > IRELAND.....and the vast amount chose to ignore how CRUCIAL it is to > include Religion.. even what Religion they were outside Ireland. > > Now I basically ignore posts where people choose to omit religion or > pointers to probable religion in Ireland as it has been posted over > and over again how IMPORTANT it is! > > If people don't want to HELP THE HELPERS then what do they expect the > helpers to do?????? > > DH > > > > On 09/03/2015 12:24, DSA2003 via wrote: >> (Given the discussion about changing religion earlier today, I >> thought I’d add that the Incumbent of this parish for whose family >> I’m searching, was Isaac Hellmuth, a Polish Jew who converted to the >> Church of England and Ireland, and ended his career as Bishop of Huron). >> >> >> David Armstrong >> >> Maylands >> Western Australia > > >
I have found a wonderful two page spread for both Fermanagh and Cavan, in an 1829 Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne Packet Newspaper. In order to qualify as persons entitled to vote at the Election of the Knights of the Shire in Ireland, freeholders must register their freeholds. It lists the names of all those submitting their holdings and it's value and is listed as.... Name of Applicant and Residence, Description of Freehold and Townland, Barony, Yearly Value to be registered. In total, over 700 names submitted for Fermanagh. I have only found 3 listed for Tyrone on the Tyrone/Fermanagh border. Has anyone with a subscription to or enjoying their free w/e to FMP noticed a listing for Tyrone or other counties? Thanks, Carole.
We used to say the same in the US about Irish Catholics marrying Italian Catholics. :-) Janet ""Probably not far enough for some parents.... Don't forget that even a First Presbyterian marrying a Second Pres was a mixed marriage... "
David, you mentioned Isaac Hellmuth, who became Bishop of Huron in your post. His family is of London Ontario. What exactly are you looking for? Wendy On Monday, March 9, 2015, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Yes people had a lot more freedom when they left Ireland BUT for trying > to find people/records IN Ireland helpers need some idea of what > religion they might have been IN IRELAND!! > > Personally I have given up trying to help people in other counties, left > the list/boards simply because of the number that can't be bothered > including everything that might HELP THE HELPER to find people! > > ON SOME, WHEN A ROLL CALL WAS MADE THEY WERE TOLD clearly to include > religion... post after post after post with a pile of WAFFLE about what > they did outside Ireland... ALL TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding stuff > in/for Ireland... and only TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to finding stuff in/for > Ireland. > > > Half the time I couldn't make out who or what they were looking for IN > IRELAND.....and the vast amount chose to ignore how CRUCIAL it is to > include Religion.. even what Religion they were outside Ireland. > > Now I basically ignore posts where people choose to omit religion or > pointers to probable religion in Ireland as it has been posted over and > over again how IMPORTANT it is! > > If people don't want to HELP THE HELPERS then what do they expect the > helpers to do?????? > > DH > > > > On 09/03/2015 12:24, DSA2003 via wrote: > > (Given the discussion about changing religion earlier today, I thought > I’d add that the Incumbent of this parish for whose family I’m searching, > was Isaac Hellmuth, a Polish Jew who converted to the Church of England and > Ireland, and ended his career as Bishop of Huron). > > > > > > David Armstrong > > > > Maylands > > Western Australia > > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
G’day again I’ve just another thought (dangerous isn’t it?). Many Irish enlisted in the East India Company armies as well as being in British Army units in India. FMP now has the Christian records for India on its site. Those of you who watched the “Who Do You Think You Are?” episode on the comedian Alistair McGowan, will know that he started out believing that he was of Scottish descent, with his father being an Anglo-Indian born in Calcutta. Until he got to Calcutta, he apparently thought that “Anglo-Indian” meant his father was a Briton born in India, instead of being of mixed race. McGowan went through the programme looking like a stunned mullet as he was introduced to a whole clan of Anglo-Indian McGowan cousins in an up-country railway town and eventually found out that his earliest McGowan ancestor in India was an Irishman who had enlisted in the East India Company army in the late 1700s and who married a Moslem landowner’s daughter. The Indian records go back to the earliest days of the British in India. So again, another channel to research the Irish diaspora. You never know, but you find out that you’re related to the Kumars at No. 42! :-} David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Bonnie Anderson via Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:36 AM To: FER-GOLD Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Find My Past I decided to try this site while it was free. So far I have found the same information for Irish BMD's as I would find on familysearch.org - the same applies for English BMD's. Also I found transcriptions from David Elliott's Devenish Parish Registers. Perhaps someone could advise me the value of subscribing to this site. Bonnie Anderson --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
All you need is one new one, not a repeat of stuff that's for free anyway.... On 09/03/2015 10:42, Carol and Joe Marlo wrote: > Not only were the same records available as found on the free websites, > but the records are incomplete. I entered my father's name, and they > had only four references. I have more than those myself. Waste of time! > Carol
G’day Bonnie FMP has just added a whole new bundle of historic Irish newspapers to its database. < http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2015/irish-newspaper-update-4/ > You should also be aware that a “Search All Records” doesn’t include the newspapers in its results, except for a link which takes you to a newspaper results page. David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Bonnie Anderson via Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:36 AM To: FER-GOLD Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Find My Past I decided to try this site while it was free. So far I have found the same information for Irish BMD's as I would find on familysearch.org - the same applies for English BMD's. Also I found transcriptions from David Elliott's Devenish Parish Registers. Perhaps someone could advise me the value of subscribing to this site. Bonnie Anderson ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Not only were the same records available as found on the free websites, but the records are incomplete. I entered my father's name, and they had only four references. I have more than those myself. Waste of time!Carol From: Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 4:54 AM Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Find My Past When you look at FMP, Ancestry etc, what do they really have? Yes, a big database, but a Database of What?? They have 1901 Census, 1911 Census, Pension Applications, Wills from 1858, LDS stuff, Griffith's, etc etc and etc.... The vast amount freely available elsewhere! At this stage they would all become more user friendly by getting rid of this free stuff, and streamlining which would help both parties. Try searching for someone and you get vast results of the same old same old stuff over and over again swamping any Search Results. DH On 09/03/2015 01:36, Bonnie Anderson via wrote: > I decided to try this site while it was free. So far I have found the > same information for Irish BMD's as I would find on familysearch.org - the > same applies for English BMD's. Also I found transcriptions from David > Elliott's Devenish Parish Registers. > Perhaps someone could advise me the value of subscribing to this site. > Bonnie Anderson ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, I've seen similar. My Rosanna McCaffrey entered the Daughters of Charity in Emmitsburg, MD. Her parents given as Thomas McCaffrey and Rosanna Stephenson. On other records it is Stinson, sometimes STEENSON. So the two are interchangeable. As if it isn't confusing enough! :o) Janet C On 3/9/15 2:36 AM, CARELL wrote: > You probably already know this, but I have read recently that Stinson is a > variation of Stephenson or Stevenson. > > >From a 1831 Enniskillen and Erne Packet newspaper, on FMP. > Kathy, in the Division of Enniskillen, a Robert Stinson, alias Stephenson, with house and land, > Mullaghmeen Trykennedy,value ₤10, is one of several persons intending to register their > Freeholds at the April sessions, 1831. > Carole. >
Ah can't believe ah ate the whole thing! ;-) On Monday, March 9, 2015 11:45 AM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: Oh Mama Mia... an Irish Catholic in 1800's eating Pizza!! What will the world come to??? :-)) On 09/03/2015 16:26, caiside via wrote: > We used to say the same in the US about Irish Catholics marrying Italian > Catholics.:-) > > Janet ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Kathy, Thanks for this. It would seem the Stinsons are as hard to unravel as are Cassidys! My connection to the Stinsons is through the family of another Fermanagh Golder, Rob Daley, and we've been working on this line for a while. He has a Rosanna Stinson (1805-1902) married to Thomas McCaffrey. They were married in Fermanagh, as their first four children were born there. Then they emigrated to Quebec along with Thomas' parents John and Honora (Jones) McCaffrey and their 6 other children. The family settled in St. Malachie, Beauharnois. We think John and Honora emigrated in 1831, not sure whether Thomas and Roseanna came at the same time or later but they were there by 1842. Eventually most of them moved down into New York state, settling near the border in Westville , Franklin County, NY. But back to the Stinson connection. Thomas's wife Rosanna (b 1805) was the daughter of Alexander Stinson and Mary Guire (Maguire?). We are not sure where these families were from, but evidence points to the same area in Devenish. We think John McCaffrey was related to my Mary McCaffrey (1816 Devenish-1887 WashDC) who married Patrick Cassidy (1804 Devenish-1894 WashDC). We also have an Edward Stinson (b. 1825) in Ireland (son of Edward Stinson and Mary McGinnis) . He married in Quebec to Mary McCaffrey, sister of Thomas McCaffrey and daughter of John and Honora. We think Edward may heave been the nephew of Thomas's wife Rosanna. What a tangle! Have you been in touch with Des Taylor of Queensland? He has an Alexander Stinson whose parents were John Stinson and Jane Adams m. at Monea in 1846. He has a list of their children all born in Drumbeggan. Alexander was born 1866 in Fermanagh , died 1909 in Queensland, Australia. John was son of William and Prudence Stinson. God bless the Irish for their tendency to repeat the same names in families!! It is enough to make a genealogist throw up her hands! Janet C On 3/9/15 1:34 AM, Allan & Kathy Lowe wrote: > Hi Janet > > My Stinsons were Protestant in all known records. I was interested to > find that there were also Catholic Stinsons in the area. > > Our first known Stinson was Edward Stinson (1789 Ireland - 1857 > Ontario) who married Margaret Spence (1789 Ireland - 1879 Ontario). > Margaret was the sister of my gggggrandmother Anne Spence and my > gggggrandfather George Spence (my gggrandparents were 3rd cousins). > > Two bits of info suggested that they were from Fermanagh and we did > find the expected children for Edward and Margaret born in Drumlish > and Drumanure, Devenish parish, from Gabriel Stinson in 1817 to George > Stuart Stinson in 1832 in David Elliott's Devenish transcriptions. > Edward and Margaret emigrated to Ontario after George Stuart's birth > as their next child was born in Ontario. > > We didn't find Edward and Margaret's marriage record. We did find > sister Anne Spence's 1810 marriage to Robert Irwin in Killyveagh, > Devenish and baptisms for four children from 1811 to 1818. Also > brother George Spence's 1824 marriage to Anne Hicks in Trory, though > no record of the baptism of their son Gabriel Spence in 1825. > > There is at least one other Stinson family involved in our family, as > Anne Spence Irwin's two Irwin sons both married Stinson women. George > Irwin (1813 Devenish - 1881 Ontario) married Mary Stinson (1818 > Ireland - 1851 Ontario). His brother Robert Irwin Jr (1818 Devenish - > ? Ontario) married Sarah Stinson (1819 Ireland - 1854 Ontario). > > I believe that Mary and Sarah were sisters and that they had a brother > Alexander Stinson (1819 Ireland - 1909 Ontario), as there are some > documents suggesting a connection between them. Alexander's parents > are named on his death cert as John Stinson and Jane Scott. > > I'm thinking that John Stinson might be a brother of Edward Stinson. > > Members of the Spence and related families are buried in a private > Crawford family cemetery in Albion, Ontario. Edward and Margaret > Spence Stinson, and George and Robert Irwin and their Stinson wives > are buried there. A John Stinson (1785 Ireland -1850 Ontario) is also > buried there, which makes me think that he is Edward's brother and > likely Alexander, Mary and Sarah's father. There is also a grave for > an Elizabeth Stinson (1770 Ireland - 1836 Ontario), who I think is > likely Edward's mother, and perhaps also John's, though he may turn > out to be more distantly related. > > That is the extent of our known Stinsons. > > You probably already know this, but I have read recently that Stinson > is a variation of Stephenson or Stevenson. > > Kathy > > > > -----Original Message----- From: caiside@comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:04 PM > To: Allan & Kathy Lowe ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD STINSON > > Kathy, > > I was just about to answer your first sentence using STINSON as an > example when I read your second! I am researching STINSON. Mine married > a McCaffrey and when the family moved to Quebec were definitely > Catholic. I am also interested in the William STINSON who is a teacher > (and RC) in the 1826 list. > > Other STINSONs in the same area were Protestant, so I suspect someone in > the family married a Catholic and raised the children Catholic. > > Where are yours from? > > > I know my Cassidys in western Fermanagh are 100% Catholic, but there are > Protestant Cassidys in Donegal and Antrim. Some people converted > because of marriage or because it was advantageous for other reasons. > > > Janet C > >
When you look at FMP, Ancestry etc, what do they really have? Yes, a big database, but a Database of What?? They have 1901 Census, 1911 Census, Pension Applications, Wills from 1858, LDS stuff, Griffith's, etc etc and etc.... The vast amount freely available elsewhere! At this stage they would all become more user friendly by getting rid of this free stuff, and streamlining which would help both parties. Try searching for someone and you get vast results of the same old same old stuff over and over again swamping any Search Results. DH On 09/03/2015 01:36, Bonnie Anderson via wrote: > I decided to try this site while it was free. So far I have found the > same information for Irish BMD's as I would find on familysearch.org - the > same applies for English BMD's. Also I found transcriptions from David > Elliott's Devenish Parish Registers. > Perhaps someone could advise me the value of subscribing to this site. > Bonnie Anderson
Sue I've forwarded your request to a ROGERS researcher and I'll be seeing her later today. Viola Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Sarah Graydon b.c.1811. > Can anyone help to find Sarah Graydon b.c.1811 d.1891. Her parents, her > marriage to George Rogers b.1806 Blackslee d.1848 St Catherines. Both are > buried in Belmore Cemetery. > > Any help would be very much appreciated. > Sue > Aust. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com