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    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Kilskeery, Tyrone Freeholders
    2. Viola Wiggins via
    3. Thank you Dave, As from Friday, I am keeping a photographic Diary of "A week in the Life of a Senior Citizen", for a Q. U. B. Project. So the "cut & paste" will have to go onto my long finger. So I've filed the link for future Ref. I have just watched the Richard III procession to the Cathedral on Television (CH4). History from 500 years ago is being re-written! He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the only version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows him in a different light. DNA matched a 17th generation man to him. That man actually made Richard's present day coffin. The wonders of science at work. Fascinating. Viola > On 22 Mar 2015, at 08:50, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Yes the best thing to do from there Vi is to copy/paste each 50 and > stick them all on a s/sheet, then next 50 etc. > > Then with them all in one place one can go through them at leisure and > put an X in first empty column for any of interest, and then just do a > Sort by that Column to get them together. > > Much better than going Search after Search and then leaving website. > > DH > >> On 21/03/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins wrote: >> I hit something that brought up the search page where I could enter a name and select up to 50 entries per page. >> Don't know what it was that I hit tho'

    03/22/2015 01:27:14
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Christina Hunt via
    3. I loved the Daughter of Time and Sunne in Splendor. I still think he was guilty as sin. LOL I watched a snippet of and the clergyman called him "...at times controversal King." http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32011590 Chris Barry Graham via wrote: >>> He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the only >>> >> version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows him in a >>> >> different light. >> > > > Read "The Daughter of Time". > A detective novel by Josephine Tey. > Involves research into Richard III and the history written by the Tudors.

    03/22/2015 01:13:35
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD ROLL CALL (Oliver)
    2. ROLL CALL (Oliver) Waiting for my DNA results . . . Jim in Charlotte

    03/22/2015 12:56:57
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Thank you fellow Golders !!!
    2. Dave H via
    3. Nice to make progress, not everyone wanted to be on a Voter's List, nor did they have to be, and there were certain criteria to be met too... Many settlers used the name given to places by the English and sometimes nothing to do with translating it from Gaelic either! Bothar Bui translates to Yellow Road but the English called it Enfield. So, indeed you did well working things out and certainly a thing for others to consider! Keep joining the dots! Dave. On 22/03/2015 18:10, Ellen Brown via wrote: > I knew they were from Cavancarragh 1766 Robert Wilson is on the Religious Census but could not find him on the 1788 Voters However...... with the placename search I found that Cavancarragh means rough hill or rocky hill BINGO there is my Robert at Rockhill Spent yesterday reading all the Wilson Wills and connection some dots So don't give up and try what I did.Thanks All Ellen in Fl

    03/22/2015 12:39:45
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Thank you fellow Golders !!!
    2. Dave H via
    3. Indeed never give up.. if you could have got back to 1485 and found you were related to Richard III you could be at his funeral today!! DH On 22/03/2015 18:10, Ellen Brown via wrote: > I want to thank Vi, Vynett and whomever posted the sitePlacenamesni.org and all who have contributed to helping others(too many and I don't want to leave out anyone) Why ????Well, I have started on my Wilson journey again and I knew they were from Cavancarragh1766 Robert Wilson is on the Religious Censusbut could not find him on the 1788 VotersHowever...... with the placename search I found that Cavancarragh means rough hill or rocky hill BINGO there is my Robert at RockhillSpent yesterday reading all the Wilson Wills and connection some dots So don't give up and try what I did.Thanks All Ellen in Fl

    03/22/2015 12:25:25
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD John Noble b. 1848 and Margaret Corrigan
    2. James Noble via
    3. I have a general question about records and record searching. I¹ve posted before about John Noble, born in Fermanagh in the late 1840s, emigrated to America as a child and raised by Anthony and Margaret (Corrigan) Scollon in Meriden, CT. A very helpful list member, also on Ancestry, pointed out to me that a Margaret Corrigan, who married Anthony Scollon in America, was married earlier, in Ireland, to a John Noble, and that MY John Noble was probably her son. This member also thought that they were all Catholics. If I were to search for a Noble-Corrigan marriage sometime in the 1840s, where would I look? There is a 15-year old John Noble, son to John and Rose Noble, in the 1841 census in Drumkeeran parish, Townland Dromore Big. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very thankful. James Noble jtnoble@metrocast.net

    03/22/2015 12:10:12
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. caiside via
    3. Fascinating indeed. History is always written from a point of view. Janet C. On 3/22/15 3:27 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: > I have just watched the Richard III procession to the Cathedral on Television (CH4). > History from 500 years ago is being re-written! He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the only version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows him in a different light. > DNA matched a 17th generation man to him. That man actually made Richard's present day coffin. > The wonders of science at work. Fascinating.

    03/22/2015 09:51:43
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD Thank you fellow Golders !!!
    2. Ellen Brown via
    3. I want to thank Vi, Vynett and whomever posted the sitePlacenamesni.org and all who have contributed to helping others(too many and I don't want to leave out anyone) Why ????Well, I have started on my Wilson journey again and I knew they were from Cavancarragh1766 Robert Wilson is on the Religious Censusbut could not find him on the 1788 VotersHowever...... with the placename search I found that Cavancarragh means rough hill or rocky hill BINGO there is my Robert at RockhillSpent yesterday reading all the Wilson Wills and connection some dots So don't give up and try what I did.Thanks All Ellen in Fl

    03/22/2015 08:10:44
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Frances MAGAN and her sister Ellen MAGAURAN
    2. Dave H via
    3. OR... another Shortened Version of Surname?? No point in making things simple! :-)) Dee would really benefit from printing off the old county maps I posted about a while back, one for each county and then trim them of where the counties meet to get a prospective on how near everything is to each other across the 3 counties. I found them invaluable especially with bits in neighbouring counties that were very close geographically. Dave. On 22/03/2015 13:28, Viola Wiggins wrote: > Dave & Dee > That was a substantial amount of offerings for prayers for the repose of > the souls. > A Bequest indicates that Frances had made a Will and the money was > through it. > So either she was a Magauran married to a MAGAN or an Ellen MAGAN had > Married a MAGAURAN. > That's a puzzle to be pondered and solved??? now. > Viola

    03/22/2015 07:52:50
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Frances MAGAN and her sister Ellen MAGAURAN
    2. Viola Wiggins via
    3. Dave & Dee That was a substantial amount of offerings for prayers for the repose of the souls. A Bequest indicates that Frances had made a Will and the money was through it. So either she was a Magauran married to a MAGAN or an Ellen MAGAN had Married a MAGAURAN. That's a puzzle to be pondered and solved??? now. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    03/22/2015 07:28:10
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran and Slowey.
    2. Dave H via
    3. Indeed a close knit family who kept in contact with each other... The Book of Magauran : Leabhar Méig Shamhradháin. by McKenna, Lambert (Editor). Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies, 1947. might be of interest too? Maybe via Inter Library Loan?? It's on Library shelf at the moment... I can reserve it and get it here tomorrow if you want! Dave On 22/03/2015 12:34, Dee Byster-Graham wrote: > Thank you so much, Dave. > > All three articles prove what a brawling, drinking, disciplinarian lot the > Magaurans were. > This family had every facet of life within it - from great Archbishops to > IRA fighters.:) > Found a site today which tells the story from 7th century onwards, about the > love/hate relationship with the Dolans etc. > Only up to 1000ad or so yet, find them quite fascinating and beginning to > like them very much - and it says Leitrim is their original home. > > We had Ribbonmen in the family in Fermanagh, probably illicit stills as > well. > One could believe it's genetic. > > DEE.

    03/22/2015 06:57:46
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD Frances MAGAN and her sister Ellen MAGAURAN
    2. Dave H via
    3. Newspaper: Leitrim Advertiser Date: 20 October 1887 Newspaper Subject: MAGAURAN TERENCE VERY REV PARISH PRIEST TEMPLEPORT Newspaper Content: Above received charitable bequest from Frances Magan late of Ballinamore £20 for the repose of her and her sister Ellen Magauran, souls.

    03/22/2015 06:23:34
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD KEEP OFF THE GRASS!!!
    2. Dave H via
    3. Newspaper: Leitrim Advertiser Date: 08 January 1891 Newspaper Subject: MAGAURAN DERNAHETTY Newspaper Content: MARY MAGAURAN Proscuted Thomas Dolan, Thomas Gormley and Stephen Reilly at Ballinamore Petty Sessions for playing football in her meadow.

    03/22/2015 06:19:02
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD MAGAURAN JOHN
    2. Dave H via
    3. Date: 08 October 1836 Newspaper Subject: MAGAURAN JOHN (FARMER) CORDUFF Newspaper: Roscommon & Leitrim Gazette Newspaper Content: Application by above re; his intention to register as a voter at elections. Details from Ballinamore Registry Sessions. ------------------------------ So wealthy enough to be able to Vote!!

    03/22/2015 06:14:01
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD Jimmy MAGAURAN was a naughty boy!!
    2. Dave H via
    3. Newspaper: Leitrim Advertiser Date: 29 September 1892 Newspaper Subject: MAGAURAN JAMES Newspaper Content: Summoned to Ballinamore Petty Sessions by his father for assault. After he had been severely chastised, adjourned one month.

    03/22/2015 06:09:07
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran and Slowey.
    2. Dave H via
    3. Date: 23 August 1828 Newspaper: Roscommon & Leitrim Gazette Newspaper Subject: DRUMREILLY PARISH Newspaper Content: A group of Ribbonmen marched around Ballymagauran, County Cavan, after the fair (which is four miles from Ballinamore), they then proceeded to Drumreilly with the Rev Francis Magauran, where they were regaled with his "Mountain Dew". On 21/03/2015 23:48, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > Sorry I did not receive your email, it could be due to my new computer > installed last week - still transferring data from the old one, what a > pain!! > > At present am just beginning research into Cavan and Leitrim and am not too > familiar with the area involved, thinking Templeport likely. It is certain, > however, that my Dolan/Magauran family originated in Cavan/Leitrim then > moved to Fermanagh sometime around 1700's. To date I have not found any > SLOWEY involvement with this side of the family, but shall happily keep you > in mind and let you know if and when I do. > Excellent work done transposing gravestone photos of these two Counties by > dedicated people, including Dave Hall, to the online site. Makes the search > both easier and fascinating as I am finding many surnames associated with my > Fermanagh people, such as McCabe, Duffy, Keown, Foy etc, side by side with > Magauran/McGovern and Dolan. Obvious to me these families were associated in > Cavan long before the move to Fermanagh.

    03/22/2015 05:45:50
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD William Henry
    2. Lester Hamilton via
    3. Did it mention his profession?? DH Hi Dave Some researchers have given William the title of Capt., however I have been unable to verify which service this refers to (if any). Regards, Lester Hamilton

    03/22/2015 04:54:58
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD William Henry
    2. Lester Hamilton via
    3. I am currently researching ancestors who were also from the Parish of Dromore (Co Tyrone) and unfortunately CI Dromore Parish records were destroyed in the Public Records office fire. Although Presbyterian Church records do exist from 1835. Regards Robyn, NSW, Australia Thanks Robyn, Regards Lester

    03/22/2015 04:50:02
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD (no subject)
    2. Lester Hamilton via
    3. Hi Dave Some researchers have given William the title of Capt., however I have been unable to verify which service this refers to (if any). Regards, Lester Hamilton

    03/22/2015 04:45:36
    1. FERMANAGH-GOLD Presbyterian Freeholders.
    2. CARELL via
    3. > In 1829 the Parliament at Westminster considered offering the franchise to the freeholders of Ireland > holding property with a minimum annual valuation of £10. > However, such was the concern of potentially great numbers of Ulster Presbyterian farmers obtaining voting rights, > that the minimum valuation was raised to £50. Sent to me by a transcriber of early 1820/1830 freehold records. Certainly explains why the heads of many families being researched, weren't listed!! Carole.

    03/22/2015 03:55:22