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    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Jennets and Mules
    2. caiside via
    3. Thanks, Vi! Very interesting. I knew about mules, but never heard of a jennet, nor did I know the difference in parentage. Mules were used in the Army in the US also, especially by cavalry during the Civil War and the Indian Wars. Replaced by trucks and jeeps now of course. I will have to be careful with the pronunciation of my name. ;-) Janet On 3/24/15 11:33 AM, Viola Wiggins wrote: > A Jennet has a donkey mother and horse father and is smaller than a > Mule which has a horse mother and Donkey father. Both are said to be > sterile. > The Jennet, takes after it's father and is a more willing worker then > the Mule which is apt to decide to stand still under load, and a bomb > would not shift it. Took after it's father, silly Ass. > There's a saying "As stubborn as a Mule" which is a perfect > description of a Mule's temperament. > Mules were used, usually by the Army, as pack animals [beasts of burden] > Viola > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > >

    03/24/2015 05:41:49
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD The "Clerk" Dolans
    2. Marge Rossini via
    3. Oh, Vi, how I love your stories! Luv, Marge Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Viola Wiggins via < fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The Dolans [the Clerks] got their nick name because Patrick(Paddy) Dolan, > was from Dowra and his father, Michael? used to be "The Clerk of the Court" > in Dowra. Paddy (the Clerk) Dolan married Maggie Murphy d/o Pat, and got > the > occupancy of their farm, > Their son Jim bought a couple of fields down at the bottom end of our road, > where I now live. > If I saw Jim mowing the grass there I'd make a paked lunch up and put two > mugs, milk and Sugar and the Tea in the Teapot, with a greaseproof cork in > the spout, into the basket and drive down with it to him and we'd have "Tea > in the meadow" together. > No tea ever tasted so good apart from "Tea in the bog" > Jim's mother used to make me tea, home made bread with Jam, while I was > still sitting on the horse's back, when I called with her while collecting > 1d per week for the Red Cross during WW2. > If I had dismounted I'd have to walk a quarter mile to get back up on the > horse's back. > So I considered it a debt I owed Jim to give him that treat. He liked Five > spoons of sugar in his tea. God Bless Him. He was a real Gentleman may he > RIP. > Viola. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/24/2015 05:32:31
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Marge Rossini via
    3. My Fees were so close to Cavan that they listed their place of residence as Swanlinbar. They were half a mile or less from the border. I know I need to check in both places. That is why I think they are in the old cemetery in Swanlinbar (can't remember the name right now). They are not in the records that are online, they are predominantly newer ones. I don't think that the old cemetery has been done. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I see the site has added stuff recently and those Fees would only be 3 > mile from Fermanagh. > > Dave > > > > On 24/03/2015 06:18, Marge Rossini wrote: > > I picked right up on those FEEs! Thanks, Dave. > > > > Slán, > > Marge in Southern California > > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2015 05:26:08
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee - Jennet
    2. DSA2003 via
    3. A horse http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jennet David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: caiside via Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:03 AM To: Viola Wiggins ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com ; Marge Rossini Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee Vi, What's a jennet? Janet On 3/23/15 6:17 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: Mick used to travel in a Jennet and cart. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

    03/24/2015 03:28:50
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee
    2. Dee Byster-Graham via
    3. Vi, Your remembrances are always delightful to hear - and in this case our ears are wide open as you refer to Magauran etc. Did this Dolan family work for the local Council or similar to have such a nickname? Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Viola Wiggins via Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 8:17 AM To: Marge Rossini; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee When I was a very small child, we had neighbours McGurn/ Magauran, ( the Buckies) living up the "Marlbank road" in Killykeeghan or Kilnameel. The head of that household was Mick. There were three girls, but I don't remember any boys. Mick used to travel in a Jennet and cart. There was also two Fee brothers, Pat and John in Crossmurren. Pat used to bring stone bags of Hazel nuts to us for Hallow eve. He and his brother were gentle kind people, herding a farm for another family. The milk for their house was Goat's milk, and they existed, rather than lived, a very frugal life on a low income until they got their pension. Then Pat told my mother that he was on "On the pig's back" as regards money. John died before pension age. Those families lived almost beside each other with Dolan (the Clerks), and Nolan (of the bog) in between. Nick names in brackets. I'd guess that Mick, Pat and John would have been born in the 1880s, as they were weather worn old men in my young eyes, but always referred to as "Mr" by us children. The Fees were either "Mr Pat" or "Mr John" so my parents would know which one we were speaking about. Otherwise we addressed them as Mr Fee. Viola ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2015 03:24:39
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dee Byster-Graham via
    3. My goodness, Dave, that is amazing! Would never imagine those records would be kept - or that they written up at all. Thank you so much for bringing it to our attention, as you say almost as good as a census and the Townlands added as a bonus. Would you know if vaccination records of this kind are available for any other areas, and if so, how could we access them? Simply wonderful! Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 5:29 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran One also has the fascinated kids which in its own way is like a mid 1800's census... Dave http://www.bawnboy.com/local-genealogy/vaccinated-children-1864-77.html > ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2015 03:13:30
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dee Byster-Graham via
    3. Thanks so much, Marge, I shall keep you list handy and if I find any connection (very likely) shall let you know. At present I am having the same problem re connection, know they are mine but the link is broken around 1750’s. Duffy is another name associated with my Dolans and Snows of Fermanagh, and family oral history also mentions Fee, Hoy, and Foy. Lots of work to be done as it is barely a month or so that my search has shifted to Leitrim and Cavan, prior to that the Magauran family proved difficult to trace in Fermanagh, and no wonder. The plan now is to find a modern Dolan relation and work backwards from that, or uncover the birth/baptism records of gg-gfather Felix Dolan of Meenagleragh who’s father was certainly born in Cavan probably Templeport. In Fermanagh the family never used McGovern or other variants of the surname, always Magauran, and in some graveyards of Cavan and Leitrim some families did the same, so I shall start with these and use the traditional naming patterns, using McGauran too – my lot seem to revel in their Irishness so may not have used McGovern as a matter of pride. The type of gravestones and wording on them also seem relevant – large Celtic or high cross, carved sunburst containing IHS, double or triple plots with multiple burials, devout inscription with a degree of family pride – very typical of the family in Aust too in pre-1930’s. Recent graves more difficult to spot as they reverted to the modern norm of smaller tombstones, still with religious inscriptions. Yourself, Janet, Eilish, and I, and a few others on this list, all have a close connection – we just have yet to find it. :) Kindly, Dee. From: Marge Rossini [mailto:eireannslass@dslextreme.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 4:56 AM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran Dee, I have three McGaurans that married Fees. My problem is connecting them directly to me. I believe that I visited a McGovern couple when I was there in 2005. My friend Patricia Duffy (who used to be on this list) arranged that meeting. She and her husband knew them. We did research together while I was in Fermanagh. I have: Judith McGauran married to Patrick Fee; son Patrick b. 22 Mar 1837 and Mary b. 28 Jan 1847. None in between! Susan McGauran m. to Patrick Fee; son Owen? b. 12 June 1844 Mick McGauran m. to Biddy Fee; son Peter b. 2 Apr 1852 I also have an: Honora Magauran m. to Andrew Gilbride; son Eugene b. 26 Aug 1837 Honora Magauran m. to Nathaniel Gilbride; dau. Catherine b. 3 May 1838 Patt Magauran m. to Catherine Gilbride; son John b. 21st ? 1854 Peter Magauran m. to Biddy Magauran?; son Brian b. 23 May 1845 AND Ellen Magowan m. to Eugene McGoldrick; son Matthew b. 29 Apr 1840 I am anxious for the RC church records to go online to see if I can find connections. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

    03/24/2015 02:51:09
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dave H via
    3. I see the site has added stuff recently and those Fees would only be 3 mile from Fermanagh. Dave On 24/03/2015 06:18, Marge Rossini wrote: > I picked right up on those FEEs! Thanks, Dave. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California

    03/24/2015 02:46:10
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Eilish via
    3. Ironically, I am currently reading The White Queen, about Elizabeth Woodville and her husband King Edward, Richard's older brother. Richard has just been married off to a Neville. Prior to that I read The Red Queen, which was about Margaret Beauford and the Lancaster side. Phillipa Gregory wrote these books -- they are very readable, and although novelized, she is a historian with an interest in the Plantagenets and the Tudors so she decided to flesh out the bones so to speak. I saw a BBC doc when they dug up the bones of Richard in a carpark ( unbelievable!) and put him together again. How amazing his descendant was a cabinet maker who could make his coffin. Still, that guy got his family tree done for free! Guess I am not a descendant of any Yorkist. Eilish On 23/03/2015 6:26 PM, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > Who is Josephine Tey? > Have not read any books by this person. > Presuming she is an author - is her work historically accurate and readable? > If so, shall search her out in the library. > > Dee. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of caiside via > Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015 9:28 AM > To: Barry Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com; Viola Wiggins; Dave H > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III > > Thanks, I'll look for it. I always enjoyed Josephine Tey. > > > On 3/22/15 7:04 PM, Barry Graham wrote: >>> On 3/22/15 3:27 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: >>>> He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the >>>> only version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows >>>> him in a different light. >> Read "The Daughter of Time". >> A detective novel by Josephine Tey. >> Involves research into Richard III and the history written by the Tudors. >> >> >> > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/24/2015 02:33:42
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown via
    3. And a distant relation of that WOODVILLE has Irish connections - although not quite with Fermanagh (but close). I wrote a blog piece about her some time ago: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.ca/2013/09/email-serendipity.html Enjoy, Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ On 23/03/2015 2:33 PM, Eilish via wrote: > Ironically, I am currently reading The White Queen, about Elizabeth > Woodville and her husband King Edward, Richard's older brother. Richard > has just been married off to a Neville. Prior to that I read The Red > Queen, which was about Margaret Beauford and the Lancaster side. > Phillipa Gregory wrote these books -- they are very readable, and > although novelized, she is a historian with an interest in the > Plantagenets and the Tudors so she decided to flesh out the bones so to > speak. I saw a BBC doc when they dug up the bones of Richard in a > carpark ( unbelievable!) and put him together again. How amazing his > descendant was a cabinet maker who could make his coffin. Still, that > guy got his family tree done for free! Guess I am not a descendant of > any Yorkist. > > Eilish > > > On 23/03/2015 6:26 PM, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: >> Who is Josephine Tey? >> Have not read any books by this person. >> Presuming she is an author - is her work historically accurate and readable? >> If so, shall search her out in the library. >> >> Dee. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of caiside via >> Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015 9:28 AM >> To: Barry Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com; Viola Wiggins; Dave H >> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III >> >> Thanks, I'll look for it. I always enjoyed Josephine Tey. >> >> >> On 3/22/15 7:04 PM, Barry Graham wrote: >>>> On 3/22/15 3:27 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: >>>>> He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the >>>>> only version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows >>>>> him in a different light. >>> Read "The Daughter of Time". >>> A detective novel by Josephine Tey. >>> Involves research into Richard III and the history written by the Tudors. >>> >>> >>> >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/24/2015 02:05:03
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dave H via
    3. They were found by accident in a house in Ballinamore and I have a hunch it was Dr Magauran who instigated the vaccinations... Not sure which house he had in Ballinamore (Yet) With all those birth, marriages, deaths etc on the site I wonder if any are for those who moved such a HUGE distance from Co Leitrim right through Co Cavan and all the way into Fermanagh.. it must be all of 5 miles!! Must have taken at least a half a day to get there before railway came into being in mid 1800's... On 23/03/2015 23:13, Dee Byster-Graham wrote: > My goodness, Dave, that is amazing! > > Would never imagine those records would be kept - or that they written up at all. > Thank you so much for bringing it to our attention, as you say almost as good as a census and the Townlands added as a bonus. > > Would you know if vaccination records of this kind are available for any other areas, and if so, how could we access them? > > Simply wonderful! > Kindly, > Dee. > >

    03/23/2015 05:43:43
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Dave H via
    3. It took them long enough to work out Richard's parking bill.... On 23/03/2015 21:33, Eilish via wrote: > How amazing his > descendant was a cabinet maker who could make his coffin. Still, that > guy got his family tree done for free! Guess I am not a descendant of > any Yorkist. > > Eilish

    03/23/2015 05:29:27
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dave H via
    3. On 23/03/2015 22:51, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > In Fermanagh the family never used McGovern or other variants of the surname, always Magauran, and in some graveyards of Cavan and Leitrim some families did the same, so I shall start with these and use the traditional naming patterns, using McGauran too – my lot seem to revel in their Irishness so may not have used McGovern as a matter of pride. The type of gravestones and wording on them also seem relevant – large Celtic or high cross, carved sunburst containing IHS, double or triple plots with multiple burials, devout inscription with a degree of family pride – very typical of the family in Aust too in pre-1930’s. Recent graves more difficult to spot as they reverted to the modern norm of smaller tombstones, still with religious inscriptions. On the Templeport site you'll see the various spellings they used along with the "standardised" surname in separate column where you'll see McGovern standardised the Macgauran plus other versions standardised to Magauran.. One only has to look at the Mac lists to see them..... plenty of Dolans, Fees etc there too. The mid 1800's thing I mentioned gets on family units etc....

    03/23/2015 05:27:04
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Marge Rossini via
    3. I picked right up on those FEEs! Thanks, Dave. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > On 23/03/2015 22:51, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > > In Fermanagh the family never used McGovern or other variants of the > surname, always Magauran, and in some graveyards of Cavan and Leitrim some > families did the same, so I shall start with these and use the traditional > naming patterns, using McGauran too – my lot seem to revel in their > Irishness so may not have used McGovern as a matter of pride. The type of > gravestones and wording on them also seem relevant – large Celtic or high > cross, carved sunburst containing IHS, double or triple plots with multiple > burials, devout inscription with a degree of family pride – very typical of > the family in Aust too in pre-1930’s. Recent graves more difficult to spot > as they reverted to the modern norm of smaller tombstones, still with > religious inscriptions. > > > > > On the Templeport site you'll see the various spellings they used along > with the "standardised" surname in separate column where you'll see > McGovern standardised the Macgauran plus other versions standardised to > Magauran.. > > One only has to look at the Mac lists to see them..... plenty of Dolans, > Fees etc there too. > > The mid 1800's thing I mentioned gets on family units etc.... > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/23/2015 05:18:42
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee
    2. Viola Wiggins via
    3. When I was a very small child, we had neighbours McGurn/ Magauran, ( the Buckies) living up the "Marlbank road" in Killykeeghan or Kilnameel. The head of that household was Mick. There were three girls, but I don't remember any boys. Mick used to travel in a Jennet and cart. There was also two Fee brothers, Pat and John in Crossmurren. Pat used to bring stone bags of Hazel nuts to us for Hallow eve. He and his brother were gentle kind people, herding a farm for another family. The milk for their house was Goat's milk, and they existed, rather than lived, a very frugal life on a low income until they got their pension. Then Pat told my mother that he was on "On the pig's back" as regards money. John died before pension age. Those families lived almost beside each other with Dolan (the Clerks), and Nolan (of the bog) in between. Nick names in brackets. I'd guess that Mick, Pat and John would have been born in the 1880s, as they were weather worn old men in my young eyes, but always referred to as "Mr" by us children. The Fees were either "Mr Pat" or "Mr John" so my parents would know which one we were speaking about. Otherwise we addressed them as Mr Fee. Viola

    03/23/2015 04:17:01
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran/Fee
    2. caiside via
    3. Vi, What's a jennet? Janet On 3/23/15 6:17 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: > When I was a very small child, we had neighbours McGurn/ Magauran, ( the Buckies) living up the "Marlbank road" in Killykeeghan or Kilnameel. The head of that household was Mick. There were three girls, but I don't remember any boys. Mick used to travel in a Jennet and cart. There was also two Fee brothers, Pat and John in Crossmurren. Pat used to bring stone bags of Hazel nuts to us for Hallow eve. He and his brother were gentle kind people, herding a farm for another family. The milk for their house was Goat's milk, and they existed, rather than lived, a very frugal life on a low income until they got their pension. Then Pat told my mother that he was on > "On the pig's back" as regards money. John died before pension age. > Those families lived almost beside each other with Dolan (the Clerks), and Nolan (of the bog) in between. Nick names in brackets. > I'd guess that Mick, Pat and John would have been born in the 1880s, as they were weather worn old men in my young eyes, but always referred to as "Mr" by us children. > The Fees were either "Mr Pat" or "Mr John" so my parents would know which one we were speaking about. Otherwise we addressed them as Mr Fee. > Viola > > >

    03/23/2015 03:03:22
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Barry Graham via
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Byster-Graham" <deebg@bigpond.net.au> To: "'caiside'" <caiside@comcast.net>; <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>; "'Barry Graham'" <btgraham@tpg.com.au>; "'Viola Wiggins'" <vmaw3434@gmail.com>; "'Dave H'" <hallmarkone@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:26 PM Subject: RE: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III > Who is Josephine Tey? > Have not read any books by this person. > Presuming she is an author - is her work historically accurate and > readable? > If so, shall search her out in the library. > > Dee. Here is a clue. "A detective novel "

    03/23/2015 02:44:39
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Magauran
    2. Dave H via
    3. One also has the fascinated kids which in its own way is like a mid 1800's census... Dave http://www.bawnboy.com/local-genealogy/vaccinated-children-1864-77.html On 23/03/2015 18:55, Marge Rossini via wrote: > Dee, > > I have three McGaurans that married Fees. My problem is connecting them > directly to me. I believe that I visited a McGovern couple when I was there > in 2005. My friend Patricia Duffy (who used to be on this list) arranged > that meeting. She and her husband knew them. We did research together while > I was in Fermanagh. > > I have: > > Judith McGauran married to Patrick Fee; son Patrick b. 22 Mar 1837 and Mary > b. 28 Jan 1847. None in between! > > Susan McGauran m. to Patrick Fee; son Owen? b. 12 June 1844 > > Mick McGauran m. to Biddy Fee; son Peter b. 2 Apr 1852 > > I also have an: > > Honora Magauran m. to Andrew Gilbride; son Eugene b. 26 Aug 1837 > > Honora Magauran m. to Nathaniel Gilbride; dau. Catherine b. 3 May 1838 > > Patt Magauran m. to Catherine Gilbride; son John b. 21st ? 1854 > > Peter Magauran m. to Biddy Magauran?; son Brian b. 23 May 1845 > > AND > > Ellen Magowan m. to Eugene McGoldrick; son Matthew b. 29 Apr 1840 > > I am anxious for the RC church records to go online to see if I can find > connections. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > O'Connor in Kerry > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, > King in Kildare > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/23/2015 01:29:00
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Dee Byster-Graham via
    3. Who is Josephine Tey? Have not read any books by this person. Presuming she is an author - is her work historically accurate and readable? If so, shall search her out in the library. Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of caiside via Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015 9:28 AM To: Barry Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com; Viola Wiggins; Dave H Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III Thanks, I'll look for it. I always enjoyed Josephine Tey. On 3/22/15 7:04 PM, Barry Graham wrote: > >> On 3/22/15 3:27 PM, Viola Wiggins wrote: >>> He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the >>> only version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows >>> him in a different light. >> > > Read "The Daughter of Time". > A detective novel by Josephine Tey. > Involves research into Richard III and the history written by the Tudors. > > > ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/23/2015 11:26:36
    1. Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III
    2. Dee Byster-Graham via
    3. Chris, Just found the link you kindly added - I am a goose! Lovely funeral, the white roses were a nice touch. Finding the remains was almost a miracle in itself - now he can be laid to rest in a proper manner. Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christina Hunt via Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015 9:14 AM To: Barry Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Richard III I loved the Daughter of Time and Sunne in Splendor. I still think he was guilty as sin. LOL I watched a snippet of and the clergyman called him "...at times controversal King." http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32011590 Chris Barry Graham via wrote: >>> He was not quite the baddie he has been made out to be. But the >>> only >>> >> version we know was written by his enemies. Now research shows >>> >> him in a different light. >> > > > Read "The Daughter of Time". > A detective novel by Josephine Tey. > Involves research into Richard III and the history written by the Tudors. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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