Just a thought. If the Abstract is available it should say where it was processed. Londonderry, Armagh, Belfast or Dublin or even somewhere else. I would now search www.proni.gov.uk Wills Calendars for that Will using the full name and date to narrow the field. . The extract that was processed may have been for part of the deceased Estate in Rep Ireland which must have qualified the criteria where Death Duties were involved. The actual Will could have been administered anywhere. In some cases Abstracts of Wills may exist while the originals may have been destroyed in THE fire in Dublin, OR where Letters of Administration only exist, because there was no actual Will to Administer. When our daughter died in a RTA in North Africa, she, being only 21, did not have a Will so I had to apply through a Solicitor, for Letters of Administration, sworn before a Judge, in order to Process her Estate. If her Estate had been under £3000 at the time of her death, I would not have needed L of A and could have claimed as "named next of Kin" on her Air Force Enlistment documents. Always think outside the box and approach from a different direction.Hope that helps Viola > I emailed NAI to enquire as to something listed on their site. > > It states "Document Type" as a Will! > Just got reply... "With reference to your enquiry, the reference which > you have provided refers to the abstract of a will compiled for the > purposes of payment of death duties....." > > Therefore "Document Type" as a Will is in effect an "Abstract" not a > Will! Others are clearly listed as an "Abstract!" > I understand the difference, I understand the Death Duties BUT has > anyone got an abstract of a will compiled for the purposes of payment of > death duties??? > So.... > Just need (or trying) to find out if inheritors are named, that's all. > Not what Death Duties are, the Tax %age etc etc just if I get this will > I get names! > Anyone know? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Janet, I found this link on jennets. You may be able to claim Spanish links now! You only have to worry if your name is Jenny, apparently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennet Eilish On 25/03/2015 2:41 AM, caiside via wrote: > Thanks, Vi! Very interesting. > I knew about mules, but never heard of a jennet, nor did I know the > difference in parentage. Mules were used in the Army in the US also, > especially by cavalry during the Civil War and the Indian Wars. Replaced > by trucks and jeeps now of course. > > I will have to be careful with the pronunciation of my name. ;-) > > Janet > > > > On 3/24/15 11:33 AM, Viola Wiggins wrote: >> A Jennet has a donkey mother and horse father and is smaller than a >> Mule which has a horse mother and Donkey father. Both are said to be >> sterile. >> The Jennet, takes after it's father and is a more willing worker then >> the Mule which is apt to decide to stand still under load, and a bomb >> would not shift it. Took after it's father, silly Ass. >> There's a saying "As stubborn as a Mule" which is a perfect >> description of a Mule's temperament. >> Mules were used, usually by the Army, as pack animals [beasts of burden] >> Viola >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Grrrrr.... I emailed NAI to enquire as to something listed on their site. It states "Document Type" as a Will! Just got reply... "With reference to your enquiry, the reference which you have provided refers to the abstract of a will compiled for the purposes of payment of death duties....." Therefore "Document Type" as a Will is in effect an "Abstract" not a Will! Others are clearly listed as an "Abstract!" I understand the difference, I understand the Death Duties BUT has anyone got an abstract of a will compiled for the purposes of payment of death duties??? So.... Just need (or trying) to find out if inheritors are named, that's all. Not what Death Duties are, the Tax %age etc etc just if I get this will I get names! Anyone know? Thanks DH

On 25/03/2015 01:46, CARELL via wrote: > Janet, thank you for the Cleaner link. > Great search results, maiden name, parents, > mother's maiden name and place of birth... > WHY, didn't Ireland list all those details...sigh! > Carole. Paper was scarce and if one finds someone's death/emigration etc it is a sign of "status".... Even if one looks at the Preservation of Memorials to the Dead you'll see Rectors etc sending in submissions from a graveyard and even these are those deemed "worthy of mention" in many cases and one often sees a comment from them basically saying "no one else worth mentioning!"..... DH

From the Scotch Irish list, an interesting link if you ignore 'the famous people' trivia.... > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brits-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html#ixzz3U > > Carole.

For a moment I thought you were describing some of my family members! Eilish On 25/03/2015 2:33 AM, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > A Jennet has a donkey mother and horse father and is smaller than a Mule > which has a horse mother and Donkey father. > > --- >

Thank you for posting the link, Carole, Very interesting data, shows northern Ireland dna same as western Scotland as we would expect. It was believed that Celticity is cultural rather than dna related, te study appears to prove this. Same would be true of Roman influence - cultural rather than genetic. No less impacting, all the same. Kindly Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CARELL via Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 8:36 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD DNA maps/locations/links! From the Scotch Irish list, an interesting link if you ignore 'the famous people' trivia.... > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brit s-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html#ixzz3U > > Carole. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Gaults had Flax Mills in Ireland, so Cotton Mills would make sense. Over 1 million Irish were "settled" in order to counteract the numbers of French and also the relieve landlords of poor Irish tenants. There was a Fund set up in London to assist the Irish who wanted to go. DH On 25/03/2015 04:03, Anne Sterling via wrote: > I noticed an entry for > Andrew Gault, President of the Montreal Cotton Company Mill(s) in > Valleyfield. He was from Ulster. He or one of his family built the Gault > School( 1894) which my grandfather and cousins attended in Valleyfield. It > is still an English school ( I visited it in 2013)10 000 people worked in > the cotton mill at one time. My grandfather's cousin was from a Scottish > family who arrived in 1871. Some of you may have family who emigrated to > Canada to work in the silk or cotton mills in Valleyfield. The town was > named for a place in Scotland which produced good quality paper. > Contrary to what people are told there were many English, Scottish and Irish > settlers in this part of Quebec province. Montreal and Quebec City had many > British descendants who spoke English, too. > > Anne in Ottawa, formerly from Quebec City

This library certainly sounds worth investigating, Dave. If anyone gets to it, let us know. I'd love to know precisely what is in those OS records. I may have to set aside a day to be in Dublin next trip "home." Janet C On 3/24/15 3:27 PM, Dave H wrote: > Apparently not. > > DH > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > FERMANAGH-GOLD Names of people who emigrated to America,townland on > which they lived,year of emigration and city in United States or > Canada where each intended to settle > > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:13:18 +0100 > > Has anyone experience using the RIA?? > > Thanks in advance, DH > --------------------------- > > Quote; The Royal Irish Academy, Dublin. — This library, rich in old > manuscript collections, is open to the public. Its holdings are > described in A Catalogue of > Irish Manuscripts in the Royal Irish Academy, by Elizabeth Fitzpatrick > and Dr. Kathleen Mulchrone, assisted by A. I. Pearson, Dublin, 1948, > pp. 586. > > This is another old library, rich in records for compiling genealogy. > Some of its special records are: Ordinance Survey Records, 1833-1834; > 1835- 1837, etc., > dealing with the parishes of Ulster, describing places and giving > miscellaneous information, such as names of people who emigrated to > America (name, age, religion (R. > C. or P.), townland on which they lived, year of emigration, and city > in United States or Canada where each intended to settle) ; > > Many 17th and 18th century pedigrees in manuscript ; > > > > Books of Survey and Distribution compiled in 1677, by Thomas Taylor > (this survey was ordered to have records of > names of the proprietors of property in Ireland before the Rebellion > of 1640, and record of new proprietors to whom the > estates were granted by the Commonwealth) ; a large collection of > lists of Freeholders; the Wendele manuscripts, being 190 > volumes containing pedigrees of Leinster and Munster families; and a > large collection of newspapers. > > (The Freemans' Journal, also called The Public Monitor, 1772-1773, a > rare weekly paper, gave much personal news and is full of genealogical > notes.) > >

Fascinating piece, thanks! JAnet On 3/24/15 9:32 PM, Eilish wrote: > hanks, Carole, this is a great link. I have passed it on to others in > my genealogy group. > Eilish > > On 25/03/2015 9:35 AM, CARELL via wrote: >> From the Scotch Irish list, an interesting link if you ignore >> 'the famous people' trivia.... >> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brits-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html#ixzz3U >>> >>> >>> Carole.

Glad it was useful. Rob Daley and I are tracing McCaffreys who were in Ormstown since 1831. The next generation moved down into New York state along with the Bradys (see below) and settled in Malone and Trout River. Several of them lived into their 90s. Good Fermanagh genes! Janet C On 3/25/15 12:13 AM, Anne Sterling wrote: > Janet, > Thank you for this. I saw a posting for James Bustard saying he came > from Frevagh townland in Devenish parish in Fermanagh. I have not been > able to track his family yet as, they could be a close relation. My > Bustard family lived in Frevagh townland. Perhaps none of them live in > Scottsburg, Virginia anymore. > No Bustard matches with y-dna yet. In fact, no close matches at all! > Anne in Ottawa > > -----Original Message----- From: caiside via > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:55 PM > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD BUSTARD, DUNDAS, BRADY, BUCHANAN > >> From the Huntingdon (Quebec) Gleaner: > > 12-23-1868 Thomas March, died at the residence of his son, at Trout > River, Elgin Township, Quebec Aged 87 years. A native of Enniskillen, > County Fermanagh, Ireland. > > 09-18-1884 Mary DUNDAS, wife of Charles Harrigan, and daughter of the > late Moses Dundas, of Church Hill, county Fermanagh, Ireland, died Aged > 73 years. > > 02-08-1892 Thomas Adams, died at Dewittville Quebec, age 85 years. A > native of Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland > > > 1892 (Not dated) Mary Miller, widow of the late Joseph Ball, formerly > of Havelock Quebec, died at Eastman, Ont., at her son's residence. Age > 90 years. A native of County Fermanagh, Ireland. Interred at Barebrook, > Ont.. > > > 04-28-1901 George Armstrong, died at Ormstown PQ, aged 73 years. A > native of Fermanagh, Ireland. > > 05-02-1904 James BUSTARD, died at Scottsburg Virginia, age 74 years. A > native of Killcoo, County Fermanagh, Ireland. He was formerly a resident > of Havelock PQ, and left there for Virginia in 1870. > > 12-04-1938 Mary L. Buchanan, eldest daughter of the late Arthur Buchanan > of Havelock Québec, and widow of Dr. John F. Rollit, died at the > Montreal General Hospital. Interred at Trinity Church, Havelock Québec. > She was from a pioneer family in Huntingdon County, her grandfather, > John Buchanan of The Moye, Moyhane, County Fermanagh, was descendant > from a branch of the Buchanan family that have come there from > Dumbartonshirer Scotland, in 1670, coming to this country in 1834, in > 1908, she married Dr. John F. Rollit of Montreal, who died last year. > She is survived by two daughters, France's and Cornelia Rollit, a son > and daughter-in-law, Dr. and Mrs. Buchanan Rollit, one sister, Miss > Mildred Buchanan, a sister-in-law, Mrs. Goddard, wife of the Rev. Harlow > G. Goddard, all of Montreal, and four brothers-in-law, the Rev. C. G. > Rollit, of Iberville Québec, Rev. Peter G. Rollit, of Ausable Forks > N.Y., major Arthur A Rollit of Toronto, and Rev. A.E. Rollit, of > Knowlton Québec. Funeral service held at St Matthias Church, Cote St > Antoine Road, Interred at Trinity Church in Havelock Québec. > > 06-22-1942 Miss Catherine Brady, died at Trout River, New York, age 92 > years. She was born in 1850, daughter Peter Brady and his wife, Ann > Riley. Her father was a native of Fermanagh Ireland. She is survived by > her brothers, William of Lancaster ON, and Charles, and a number of > nephews and nieces. > > See more Gleaner extracts here: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ > > Janet C > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

And most of the time, women are called by their maiden names. How considerate of future genealogists! Janet On 3/24/15 9:46 PM, CARELL wrote: > Janet, thank you for the Cleaner link. > Great search results, maiden name, parents, > mother's maiden name and place of birth... > WHY, didn't Ireland list all those details...sigh! > Carole. > >> From the Huntingdon (Quebec) Gleaner: >> See more Gleaner extracts here: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ >

Janet, Thank you for this. I saw a posting for James Bustard saying he came from Frevagh townland in Devenish parish in Fermanagh. I have not been able to track his family yet as, they could be a close relation. My Bustard family lived in Frevagh townland. Perhaps none of them live in Scottsburg, Virginia anymore. No Bustard matches with y-dna yet. In fact, no close matches at all! Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: caiside via Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:55 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD BUSTARD, DUNDAS, BRADY, BUCHANAN >From the Huntingdon (Quebec) Gleaner: 12-23-1868 Thomas March, died at the residence of his son, at Trout River, Elgin Township, Quebec Aged 87 years. A native of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Ireland. 09-18-1884 Mary DUNDAS, wife of Charles Harrigan, and daughter of the late Moses Dundas, of Church Hill, county Fermanagh, Ireland, died Aged 73 years. 02-08-1892 Thomas Adams, died at Dewittville Quebec, age 85 years. A native of Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland 1892 (Not dated) Mary Miller, widow of the late Joseph Ball, formerly of Havelock Quebec, died at Eastman, Ont., at her son's residence. Age 90 years. A native of County Fermanagh, Ireland. Interred at Barebrook, Ont.. 04-28-1901 George Armstrong, died at Ormstown PQ, aged 73 years. A native of Fermanagh, Ireland. 05-02-1904 James BUSTARD, died at Scottsburg Virginia, age 74 years. A native of Killcoo, County Fermanagh, Ireland. He was formerly a resident of Havelock PQ, and left there for Virginia in 1870. 12-04-1938 Mary L. Buchanan, eldest daughter of the late Arthur Buchanan of Havelock Québec, and widow of Dr. John F. Rollit, died at the Montreal General Hospital. Interred at Trinity Church, Havelock Québec. She was from a pioneer family in Huntingdon County, her grandfather, John Buchanan of The Moye, Moyhane, County Fermanagh, was descendant from a branch of the Buchanan family that have come there from Dumbartonshirer Scotland, in 1670, coming to this country in 1834, in 1908, she married Dr. John F. Rollit of Montreal, who died last year. She is survived by two daughters, France's and Cornelia Rollit, a son and daughter-in-law, Dr. and Mrs. Buchanan Rollit, one sister, Miss Mildred Buchanan, a sister-in-law, Mrs. Goddard, wife of the Rev. Harlow G. Goddard, all of Montreal, and four brothers-in-law, the Rev. C. G. Rollit, of Iberville Québec, Rev. Peter G. Rollit, of Ausable Forks N.Y., major Arthur A Rollit of Toronto, and Rev. A.E. Rollit, of Knowlton Québec. Funeral service held at St Matthias Church, Cote St Antoine Road, Interred at Trinity Church in Havelock Québec. 06-22-1942 Miss Catherine Brady, died at Trout River, New York, age 92 years. She was born in 1850, daughter Peter Brady and his wife, Ann Riley. Her father was a native of Fermanagh Ireland. She is survived by her brothers, William of Lancaster ON, and Charles, and a number of nephews and nieces. See more Gleaner extracts here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ Janet C ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Janet, this is a great link. A retired doctor whose family came from this area, told me that the Gleaner covered a triangular area of three main towns: Huntingdon, Ormstown and Valleyfield. While looking for a family member who died in 1903, I noticed an entry for Andrew Gault, President of the Montreal Cotton Company Mill(s) in Valleyfield. He was from Ulster. He or one of his family built the Gault School( 1894) which my grandfather and cousins attended in Valleyfield. It is still an English school ( I visited it in 2013)10 000 people worked in the cotton mill at one time. My grandfather's cousin was from a Scottish family who arrived in 1871. Some of you may have family who emigrated to Canada to work in the silk or cotton mills in Valleyfield. The town was named for a place in Scotland which produced good quality paper. Contrary to what people are told there were many English, Scottish and Irish settlers in this part of Quebec province. Montreal and Quebec City had many British descendants who spoke English, too. Anne in Ottawa, formerly from Quebec City -----Original Message----- From: CARELL via Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:46 PM To: caiside ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD BDMs - Huntingdon, Quebec. Janet, thank you for the Cleaner link. Great search results, maiden name, parents, mother's maiden name and place of birth... WHY, didn't Ireland list all those details...sigh! Carole. > From the Huntingdon (Quebec) Gleaner: > See more Gleaner extracts here: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From the Huntingdon (Quebec) Gleaner: 12-23-1868 Thomas March, died at the residence of his son, at Trout River, Elgin Township, Quebec Aged 87 years. A native of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Ireland. 09-18-1884 Mary DUNDAS, wife of Charles Harrigan, and daughter of the late Moses Dundas, of Church Hill, county Fermanagh, Ireland, died Aged 73 years. 02-08-1892 Thomas Adams, died at Dewittville Quebec, age 85 years. A native of Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland 1892 (Not dated) Mary Miller, widow of the late Joseph Ball, formerly of Havelock Quebec, died at Eastman, Ont., at her son's residence. Age 90 years. A native of County Fermanagh, Ireland. Interred at Barebrook, Ont.. 04-28-1901 George Armstrong, died at Ormstown PQ, aged 73 years. A native of Fermanagh, Ireland. 05-02-1904 James BUSTARD, died at Scottsburg Virginia, age 74 years. A native of Killcoo, County Fermanagh, Ireland. He was formerly a resident of Havelock PQ, and left there for Virginia in 1870. 12-04-1938 Mary L. Buchanan, eldest daughter of the late Arthur Buchanan of Havelock Québec, and widow of Dr. John F. Rollit, died at the Montreal General Hospital. Interred at Trinity Church, Havelock Québec. She was from a pioneer family in Huntingdon County, her grandfather, John Buchanan of The Moye, Moyhane, County Fermanagh, was descendant from a branch of the Buchanan family that have come there from Dumbartonshirer Scotland, in 1670, coming to this country in 1834, in 1908, she married Dr. John F. Rollit of Montreal, who died last year. She is survived by two daughters, France's and Cornelia Rollit, a son and daughter-in-law, Dr. and Mrs. Buchanan Rollit, one sister, Miss Mildred Buchanan, a sister-in-law, Mrs. Goddard, wife of the Rev. Harlow G. Goddard, all of Montreal, and four brothers-in-law, the Rev. C. G. Rollit, of Iberville Québec, Rev. Peter G. Rollit, of Ausable Forks N.Y., major Arthur A Rollit of Toronto, and Rev. A.E. Rollit, of Knowlton Québec. Funeral service held at St Matthias Church, Cote St Antoine Road, Interred at Trinity Church in Havelock Québec. 06-22-1942 Miss Catherine Brady, died at Trout River, New York, age 92 years. She was born in 1850, daughter Peter Brady and his wife, Ann Riley. Her father was a native of Fermanagh Ireland. She is survived by her brothers, William of Lancaster ON, and Charles, and a number of nephews and nieces. See more Gleaner extracts here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ Janet C

Viola, This is very interesting. Perhaps I can impress people with this knowledge:.)) Is the accent on Jennet on the first syllable or the second? Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:33 AM To: caiside ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Jennets and Mules A Jennet has a donkey mother and horse father and is smaller than a Mule which has a horse mother and Donkey father. Both are said to be sterile. The Jennet, takes after it's father and is a more willing worker then the Mule which is apt to decide to stand still under load, and a bomb would not shift it. Took after it's father, silly Ass. There's a saying "As stubborn as a Mule" which is a perfect description of a Mule's temperament. Mules were used, usually by the Army, as pack animals [beasts of burden] Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apparently not. DH ----------------------------------------------------- FERMANAGH-GOLD Names of people who emigrated to America,townland on which they lived,year of emigration and city in United States or Canada where each intended to settle Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:13:18 +0100 Has anyone experience using the RIA?? Thanks in advance, DH --------------------------- Quote; The Royal Irish Academy, Dublin. — This library, rich in old manuscript collections, is open to the public. Its holdings are described in A Catalogue of Irish Manuscripts in the Royal Irish Academy, by Elizabeth Fitzpatrick and Dr. Kathleen Mulchrone, assisted by A. I. Pearson, Dublin, 1948, pp. 586. This is another old library, rich in records for compiling genealogy. Some of its special records are: Ordinance Survey Records, 1833-1834; 1835- 1837, etc., dealing with the parishes of Ulster, describing places and giving miscellaneous information, such as names of people who emigrated to America (name, age, religion (R. C. or P.), townland on which they lived, year of emigration, and city in United States or Canada where each intended to settle) ; Many 17th and 18th century pedigrees in manuscript ; Books of Survey and Distribution compiled in 1677, by Thomas Taylor (this survey was ordered to have records of names of the proprietors of property in Ireland before the Rebellion of 1640, and record of new proprietors to whom the estates were granted by the Commonwealth) ; a large collection of lists of Freeholders; the Wendele manuscripts, being 190 volumes containing pedigrees of Leinster and Munster families; and a large collection of newspapers. (The Freemans' Journal, also called The Public Monitor, 1772-1773, a rare weekly paper, gave much personal news and is full of genealogical notes.)

The reason why S/bar is mentioned is that would be where the mail bags were delivered to, from there the local mail men would collect their letters for delivery to the people in their area. There may have been 5 or 6 mailmen needed to cover the catchment area of S/bar regardless of county lines which simply don't come into the equation. That whole strip of Cavan is only 4 or 5 mile wide between Fermanagh and Leitrim. There's a 16th century near S/bar too. Neither does the county line come into equation, local people were buried there not just from that county! Slán leath Dave On 24/03/2015 18:26, Marge Rossini wrote: > My Fees were so close to Cavan that they listed their place of residence > as Swanlinbar. They were half a mile or less from the border. I know I > need to check in both places. That is why I think they are in the old > cemetery in Swanlinbar (can't remember the name right now). They are not > in the records that are online, they are predominantly newer ones. I > don't think that the old cemetery has been done. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California

The Dolans [the Clerks] got their nick name because Patrick(Paddy) Dolan, was from Dowra and his father, Michael? used to be "The Clerk of the Court" in Dowra. Paddy (the Clerk) Dolan married Maggie Murphy d/o Pat, and got the occupancy of their farm, Their son Jim bought a couple of fields down at the bottom end of our road, where I now live. If I saw Jim mowing the grass there I'd make a paked lunch up and put two mugs, milk and Sugar and the Tea in the Teapot, with a greaseproof cork in the spout, into the basket and drive down with it to him and we'd have "Tea in the meadow" together. No tea ever tasted so good apart from "Tea in the bog" Jim's mother used to make me tea, home made bread with Jam, while I was still sitting on the horse's back, when I called with her while collecting 1d per week for the Red Cross during WW2. If I had dismounted I'd have to walk a quarter mile to get back up on the horse's back. So I considered it a debt I owed Jim to give him that treat. He liked Five spoons of sugar in his tea. God Bless Him. He was a real Gentleman may he RIP. Viola. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

A Jennet has a donkey mother and horse father and is smaller than a Mule which has a horse mother and Donkey father. Both are said to be sterile. The Jennet, takes after it's father and is a more willing worker then the Mule which is apt to decide to stand still under load, and a bomb would not shift it. Took after it's father, silly Ass. There's a saying "As stubborn as a Mule" which is a perfect description of a Mule's temperament. Mules were used, usually by the Army, as pack animals [beasts of burden] Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com