As a matter of interest does anyone know what happened to the huge Red Cross records discovered about 3 years ago? From memory it was 2 or 3 million Medical cards no one knew about.... DH On 04/04/2015 23:25, marg o'leary via wrote: > Hi again > > for the Fromelles soldiers the Australian army manages all the dna, we do > the research, give our record charts and the contact deatils to them and > they do everything from there on. > > It is done by a lab that holds the dna of the 250 soldiers and each time a > sample is sent it is matched against all 250 deceased soldiers. > it is entirely confidential under the army privacy laws, as no one get to > see any of the results, even their own. Other methods of identifying the > soldiers are also used as, at the time of exhumation each soldier was > measured and wound evidence, new and old were noted. height, teeth, etc.... > A lot of this was done by the Oxford Archeology group, Margaret Cox from > Time Team if anyone is a Time Team fan. > > When the mass grave was discovered thousand came forward to donate dna and > then families were allowed two MT female line samples and 2 Y male sampled. > > That solved about 50 of the soldiers, the other 200 are much more difficult, > many with no relatives in Australia. 144 are now identified so we are into > the tough end of it, looking for the last 106. and the army allows only one > Y and one Mt sample now. > > When someone is identified they get their own gravest on, the rellies get to > say what is o n it and they get a full military ceremony with rellies > invited. Next ceremony will be on the 100th anniversary 19 July 2016. > > It sounds like a lot of time but we are hoping to get a many more > identified by then. > > cheers > > marg
Not sure how detailed Rev's death cert will be or his wife's.. It's only €4.00 so won't break the bank. Plus there's the descendant's of Rev's sister to follow up to see if any are around today. Plus.. Did Harry's sister marry a Graham in Ireland or Oz?? DH On 04/04/2015 22:49, marg o'leary via wrote: > > it was lovely to get up this Easter Sunday morning and find so much > interest in Harry. Have never had such a good set of replies.
Strange, when I go to http://www.logainm.ie/en/59471 it says Knocks and when I go to http://www.logainm.ie/en/60816 it says Knocks. Same with http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=19462 and http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=13625 On 04/04/2015 21:05, james.mcconnell11@btinternet.com wrote: > One is Knocks other one is Knox > > Sent from my iPhone > >> >On 4 Apr 2015, at 15:50, Dave H via<fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> >Just in case it gets too simple....... >> > >> >there are 2 KNOCKS in Fermanagh >> > >> > >> >http://www.logainm.ie/en/59471 >> > >> > and >> > >> >http://www.logainm.ie/en/60816
One is Knocks other one is Knox Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Apr 2015, at 15:50, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just in case it gets too simple....... > > there are 2 KNOCKS in Fermanagh > > > http://www.logainm.ie/en/59471 > > and > > http://www.logainm.ie/en/60816 > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, thank you Dave, received assistance, a lovely summary of James' career as a Methodist minister, but nothing to clarify where James came from, his parents etc. etc. Marg -----Original Message----- From: Dave H via Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 3:34 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Lt Harry Lowry MOFFITT died 1916 WW1 With regard to reply made to you Fri, 22 Aug 2014, did you get any help from Archivist who would be the one who could look him up? Dave ------------------------------------ Subject: Re: [IRL-FERMANAGH] MOFFITT family of Knox, Clones, Fermanagah Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:44:31 +0100 References: <6E1ADA524CF74120A8AF2528CDA703B7@margs> In-Reply-To: <6E1ADA524CF74120A8AF2528CDA703B7@margs> Hi Marg The Irish Methodist archives are held at the Methodist Historical Society in Belfast. They hold extensive records on Methodist Clergy and their family, where they were stationed etc. You can email: archivist@methodisthistoryireland.org. You will find them more than helpful. While Birth, Marriage & Death records and Clergy records are not available online, you may also be interested in their website: http://methodisthistoryireland.org/family-history-genealogy/. Hope you find the info you are looking for... Avril On 04/04/2015 02:24, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > Marg, > > Welcome to Fer-Gold. > > You have certainly come to the right list to seek help in your important > and > historic quest - if anyone can help find your Moffits it will be members > of > this group. > We in Oz are soon to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the landing at > Gallipoli by the combined ANZAC men of Australia and New Zealand so > naturally any WW1 battle fought by our boys is of the utmost importance. > Fromelles was an incredibly hard-fought and desperate battle, costing many > lives, and it's nothing short of miraculous that so many single and mass > graves are finally coming to light throughout France and elsewhere in > Europe. > > I pray you can trace living family through our wonderful Fermanagh > Golders, > and obtain the DNA you need to identify your loved one. > > Kind regards, > Dee > Moreton Bay, Qld. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Again 2 of everything just so it's not too easy... Sandhurst, Victoria, and not the proper one!! :-)) On 04/04/2015 18:14, Viola Wiggins wrote: > Sandhurst was for Officer training. > Harry was only 4 days with the 35th after being in Hospital twice with > Dysemtry, when he was shot in the back of the head while trying to > rescue his Commander. He fell over his Commander's body. A german > soldier found his Dog Tag and reported his death. > That is what puts the Flesh on the bones of an ancestor. But it takes > time and patience to find it. > The joy of finding such a story is rewarding to me, unconnected to > Harry. Imagine what a thrill it would be to a person actually > researching him.? > Good old GOOGLE. > Viola >
Sandhurst was for Officer training. Harry was only 4 days with the 35th after being in Hospital twice with Dysemtry, when he was shot in the back of the head while trying to rescue his Commander. He fell over his Commander's body. A german soldier found his Dog Tag and reported his death. That is what puts the Flesh on the bones of an ancestor. But it takes time and patience to find it. The joy of finding such a story is rewarding to me, unconnected to Harry. Imagine what a thrill it would be to a person actually researching him.? Good old GOOGLE. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Happy Birthday Vi, even if I may be one day late. Bonnie On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Viola Wiggins via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thank you > I actually went to CHURCH with my sister. > Tonight might hit the Tiles with my Gnephew who is home for Easter. > Hugs > Vi
Thank you I actually went to CHURCH with my sister. Tonight might hit the Tiles with my Gnephew who is home for Easter. Hugs Vi --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
This is an issue brought to light by the CBC (the national broadcaster in Canada) and may or may not be an issue here or in other countries depending on the company and additional testing. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/home-dna-tests-may-affect-insurance-employment-1.3018086 I had my autosomal & mitochondrial DNA tested by FTDNA. I am under the impression that this is for genealogical purposes only. I know that 23andMe will test for genes that helps you learn about your genetic health and traits in addition to family history. With FTDNA I can order further tests (factoids) that would reveal tendencies. Under My DNA go to other results / Factoid results. The statement there says: "When ordering or viewing your individual "Factoids", you acknowledge your understanding that these tests are based on studies - some of which may be controversial - and results are not intended to diagnose disease or medical conditions, therefore not serving the purpose of medical advice. They are offered exclusively for curiosity purposes, i.e. to see how your result compare with what the scientific papers say. Other genetic and environmental variables may also impact these same physiological characteristics. They are merely a conversational piece, or a "cocktail party" test, as we like to call it." I would like to know if there is an issue here regarding insurance companies. It might be the reason that most of my cousins have offered to do DNA testing. Thank you in advance, Bonnie Anderson, Kitchener, Ontario
Happy belated birthday wishes Vi from a cool, wet Moss Vale in Southern Highlands of NSW Australia which we thought so similar to areas of Fermanagh! ! Barbara & Warren Sent from Samsung Mobile
Happy belated birthday, hope you got to go out on the tiles. Lois W. Sent from Windows Mail From: The Wimbles via Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 10:14 PM To: FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com Happy belated birthday wishes Vi from a cool, wet Moss Vale in Southern Highlands of NSW Australia which we thought so similar to areas of Fermanagh! ! Barbara & Warren Sent from Samsung Mobile ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sandhurst?? .... watch out Vi there may be ferret traps around there!! :-)) On 04/04/2015 14:41, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > An there's more from Google > > Births, Deaths and Marriages in the Victorian Goldfields > > > 9 April 1869 > On 6th instant at the Wesleyan Church, Forest Street, Sandhurst by the Rev W > Hill. John Thomas Lowry Moffitt, Pall Mall, Sandhurst, to Mary Emilie, > eldest daughter of the late Mr Edward S ROGERS, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire.
Just in case it gets too simple....... there are 2 KNOCKS in Fermanagh http://www.logainm.ie/en/59471 and http://www.logainm.ie/en/60816
Darling Vi One-o-these days I'm gonna write a letter a letter to Thank You our Dear Friend for everything!! A letter that will express respect and admiration for a 'brilliant' life of helping others.a letter that conveys the extent of the wonderful Gift you have given all....yeself!! I know all in 'our Family' share this sentiment and personally I must say...because of you, your help and your stories of times past....I can 'see' our Fermanagh heartland in a way that is so powerful to me For today I will just add my Birthday wishes and request for you to visit us on this side of the Pond!! But, one-o-these days I am gonna write a proper letter xxoo Rob in MA 'Shire's
Darling Vi One-o-these days I'm gonna write a letter a letter to Thank You our Dear Friend for everything!! A letter that will express respect and admiration for a 'brilliant' life of helping others.a letter that conveys the extent of the wonderful Gift you have given all....yeself!! I know all in 'our Family' share this sentiment and personally I must say...because of you, your help and your stories of times past....I can 'see' our Fermanagh heartland in a way that is so powerful to me For today I will just add my Birthday wishes and request for you to visit us on this side of the Pond!! But, one-o-these days I am gonna write a proper letter xxoo Rob in MA 'Shire's
An there's more from Google Births, Deaths and Marriages in the Victorian Goldfields 9 April 1869 On 6th instant at the Wesleyan Church, Forest Street, Sandhurst by the Rev W Hill. John Thomas Lowry Moffitt, Pall Mall, Sandhurst, to Mary Emilie, eldest daughter of the late Mr Edward S ROGERS, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Viola Wiggins via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: "marg o'leary" <marglap@skead.net>; <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:40 PM Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Lt Harry Lowry MOFFITT died 1916 WW1 > Marg > All that information I have posted was what "Google" found. > I always advise Googling the name one is researching as that will bring up > contacts to other people researching the same Family. > Your local Family Search [LDS] centre can probably order up M/film with > the > Methodist records > These are the PRONI Ref numbers available for Clones Parish [Fermanagh & > Monaghan] and I list them by The Churchs and faiths > Viola > As follows > > C.I. Aghadrumsee (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, marriages and burials, > 1829-1935. Vestry minute books, 1871-; register of vestrymen, 1870-; > preachers' books, 1894-. MIC1/236 In local custody > > > > > C.I. Clogh (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1811-91; marriages, 1792-1910; > burials,1810-1986.Baptisms, 1891-; marriages, 1910-; vestry minutes, 1831; > preachers' books, 1866-.MIC1/288 In local custody > > C.I. Clones (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1682-1873; marriages, 1682-1788 > and > 1792-1912; burials, 1682-1704, 1709, 1722-5, 1733-4 and 1808-1901; vestry > minutes, 1688-1885, which include list of seatholders, 1735-83, details of > visitations, 1803-08, and list of the poor, c.1741; preachers' book, > 1841-63; list of clergy, 1609-1873. Register of vestrymen, 1868-; > preachers' > books, 1868-MIC1/147; CR/1/58 In local custody > > M. Clones [Primitive Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1872-80. MIC1E/27 > > M. Clones [Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1839-1970; marriages, 1872-1946. > Baptisms, 1839-43.MIC1E/27, 51A MIC429/1/169 > > P. Clones Baptisms, 1856-1984; marriages, 1859-1956. MIC1P/273 > > P. Smithborough Baptisms, 1868-1983; marriages, 1845-1927; burials, > 1883-1982; session minutes, 1873-4 and 1883-1983; communicants, 1889-1913 > and 1932-55. MIC1P/200 > > P. StonebridgeBaptisms, 1819-1980; marriages, 1819-1956; visitation book > giving details of families in each townland, 1834. MIC1P/165 > > R.C. Clones (Clogher diocese)Baptisms, 1848-81; marriages, 1821-81. > MIC1D/1, > 20-21 > > R.C. Roslea (Clogher diocese)Baptisms and marriages, 1862-81. MIC1D/20 > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Annother Google find https://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=211224&printFormat=print Gives his military history Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Marg All that information I have posted was what "Google" found. I always advise Googling the name one is researching as that will bring up contacts to other people researching the same Family. Your local Family Search [LDS] centre can probably order up M/film with the Methodist records These are the PRONI Ref numbers available for Clones Parish [Fermanagh & Monaghan] and I list them by The Churchs and faiths Viola As follows C.I. Aghadrumsee (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1829-1935. Vestry minute books, 1871-; register of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers' books, 1894-. MIC1/236 In local custody C.I. Clogh (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1811-91; marriages, 1792-1910; burials,1810-1986.Baptisms, 1891-; marriages, 1910-; vestry minutes, 1831; preachers' books, 1866-.MIC1/288 In local custody C.I. Clones (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1682-1873; marriages, 1682-1788 and 1792-1912; burials, 1682-1704, 1709, 1722-5, 1733-4 and 1808-1901; vestry minutes, 1688-1885, which include list of seatholders, 1735-83, details of visitations, 1803-08, and list of the poor, c.1741; preachers' book, 1841-63; list of clergy, 1609-1873. Register of vestrymen, 1868-; preachers' books, 1868-MIC1/147; CR/1/58 In local custody M. Clones [Primitive Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1872-80. MIC1E/27 M. Clones [Wesleyan Methodists] Baptisms, 1839-1970; marriages, 1872-1946. Baptisms, 1839-43.MIC1E/27, 51A MIC429/1/169 P. Clones Baptisms, 1856-1984; marriages, 1859-1956. MIC1P/273 P. Smithborough Baptisms, 1868-1983; marriages, 1845-1927; burials, 1883-1982; session minutes, 1873-4 and 1883-1983; communicants, 1889-1913 and 1932-55. MIC1P/200 P. StonebridgeBaptisms, 1819-1980; marriages, 1819-1956; visitation book giving details of families in each townland, 1834. MIC1P/165 R.C. Clones (Clogher diocese)Baptisms, 1848-81; marriages, 1821-81. MIC1D/1, 20-21 R.C. Roslea (Clogher diocese)Baptisms and marriages, 1862-81. MIC1D/20 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Some Quebec deaths 09-18-1884 Mary Dundas, wife of Charles Harrigan, and daughter of the late Moses Dundas, of Church Hill, county Fermanagh, Ireland, died Aged 73 years. 12-23-1868 Thomas March, died at the residence of his son, at Trout River, Elgin Township, Quebec Aged 87 years. A native of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Ireland. 04-24-1878 Elizabeth Rodnich, wife of David Lamb, died after a lingering illness, at her residence in Elgin Township, Aged 73 years. Deceased was native of County Fermanagh, Ireland 02-08-1892 Thomas Adams, died at Dewittville Quebec, age 85 years. A native of Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland 02-12-1899 James Bell, died at New Ireland, Godmanchester, age 76 years 09 months, a native of the County Fermanagh Ireland. 04-28-1901 George Armstrong, died at Ormstown PQ, aged 73 years. A native of Fermanagh, Ireland. 05-02-1904 James Bustard, died at Scottsburg Virginia, age 74 years. A native of Killcoo, County Fermanagh, Ireland. He was formerly a resident of Havelock PQ, and left there for Virginia in 1870 02-21-1906 Patrick McCaffrey, died at Boyd Settlement, Hinchinbrook PQ, age 89 years. A native of Fermanagh, Heartland, which he left for Canada in 1831. 05-03-1907 Andrew Cluff, formerly of LaGuerre, Huntingdon County, died at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. George R. Dolphin, Strathcona, Alberta, aged 92 years. Deceased was born in the County of Fermanagh, Ireland, imagrating to this country in 1833. He was a volunteer of 1837-38. The funeral service was conducted by Rev. Dr. McDonald, late of Dundee PQ. Might be more http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qchuntin/gleaner/ -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 1:14 PM To: Dave H ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Lt Harry Lowry MOFFITT died 1916 WW1 Sandhurst was for Officer training. Harry was only 4 days with the 35th after being in Hospital twice with Dysemtry, when he was shot in the back of the head while trying to rescue his Commander. He fell over his Commander's body. A german soldier found his Dog Tag and reported his death. That is what puts the Flesh on the bones of an ancestor. But it takes time and patience to find it. The joy of finding such a story is rewarding to me, unconnected to Harry. Imagine what a thrill it would be to a person actually researching him.? Good old GOOGLE. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message