Parish of Clones I wrote what I saw on the map.

It is a subtownland of the current townland of Oghillicartan. Clive On Monday 20 Apr 2015 15:28:31 CARELL via wrote: > One more question. I’ve seen ‘Mielroe’ (also Millroe, Mulroe) written in > some records. I gather it’s near Lack, but it doesn’t appear as a townland > on any of the maps I’ve looked at. Can anyone help me with its location? > > Rose, not a townland.....a minor place name. > > http://www.placenamesni.org/search.php > > Placename Type 1851 Parish Current Parish Barony County > Mweelroe *M Drumkeeran Drumkeeran Lurg Fermanagh > > * M - Minor place name (i.e. not part of the historical administrative > system) > > Carole. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rosalie, you could try Proni. They hold the following, although check that the 1797 - 1867 leases are for Glassmullagh, Lack. Carole. Public Record Office for Northern Ireland PRONI Reference : D1390/6/10 Level : Series Access : Title : Copy title deeds and testamentary papers Dates : c.1715-c.1940 Description : Box of copy title deeds, testamentary papers, etc, of the Archdale family, re the Archdale estate, Co. Fermanagh, comprising amongst others: Schedule of deeds entitled "Documents in Tin Box 1904" of the Archdale family re Dromore, Glassmullagh, Knockroe, Roscolbane, Trory, Camcool, Shanmullagh, Tullyloan, White Island, Ferney island, Laragh, Drumgarron, Conerick, Ring, Tullyavey, Tullyclea, Kilgartnaleague, Derrygore, Kilmacormack, Drumcoo, tyaght, Cappy, Coolnashanton, Toneyreagh, Derrybrusk, Bill Hill, Derryinch, Drumrainy, Drumcullion, Derryargon, Magheradunbar or Dunbar, Magherahae, Claragh, Blayney West, Legnagea, Carn Green, Barrack, Carn Green estate. (1715-1900) _______________________________________ Public Record Office for Northern Ireland PRONI Reference : D3007/A/23/26 Level : File Access : Title : Leases of the townland of Glassmullagh, Co. Fermanagh Dates : 1797-1867 Description : Leases of the townland of Glassmullagh, Co. Fermanagh; two of the leases also include and in Drumcrin. [For Drumcrin see also D3007/A/23/47.] 1796-1802 Freehold List, Co. Fermanagh, Weir Thomas Mulbane Drumkeerin 1796? This was the only Weir I could see in your area, you can check this list on Proni.

Bud, Thank you for your reply. This information is helpful. I have tried to locate the reference for the information you have provided, and so have a few questions that I hope you can help with. I have found a book by Patrick J. Duffy and James Keenan published by the Queen's University Belfast. The title is 'Landscapes of South Ulster'. Presumably this is the reference you mentioned? Does the reference have a map for Doon and Eshelagh townland? Is the description you have mentioned your description of the map, or is the description you have mentioned verbatim from the book; and there is no map? Thank you. James -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 4/16/15, William J Flanagan <liam@cox.net> wrote: Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Doon (and Eshcleagh) To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com, "James Mullan" <jamesmullan@rogers.com> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2015, 7:47 PM FROM:  LANDSCAPES OF ULSTER lower right hand corner is Esheleagh up the center, just north is Doon Esheleach is surronded by: on the north & west by Doon on the east and south by Kinran on the southwest corner by Knocknalosset Bud Flanagan, in Arizona

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I have a Weir family from the Crawfordjohn area of Lanarkshire, Scotland. A lot were from that area. Some I have noticed in Canada and I believe from Ireland spelled their name Wier. Also, but can't remember but a name change as well. It may have been NcNair or something similar. Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:40 AM To: caiside ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Weirs of Glasmullagh and Knockroe Rosalie I think that your WEIR family originates with the ARCHDALL and ARMSTRONG families and from the Scottish borders during or between the first plantation of Ireland c1609 and the second around 1642. [From memory] "A Captain Thomas WEIR, and his Cousins" and are described as 'Gent' in the religeous Census. Landlords passed their reliable families around between each other so that spread the families out across two or three Counties. One WEIR family was with Hume at Ely in his Muster Rolls. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 19/04/2015 18:33, Anne Sterling via wrote: > Viola, > Again you are sharing important info with us. This explains to me why some > of my families such as the Bustard family, could have spread out from e.g. > Donegal to Fermanagh....or why the Storey family which was in Leitrim was > also perhaps in Fermanagh. > Also, I have information saying that my gr. gr. grandpa, Alexander Acheson > travelled to Scotland. He was supposedly a veterinarian, and so would have > at least gone to Edinburgh to train. I need to find info about that. > > Anne in Ottawa It's just as much about what they were, Doctors/Ministers/Vets etc etc.. Spreading from Donegal to Fermanagh is NOTHING... just down the road to many and even 2 neighbours or father/son etc could be in 2 counties with just a stream between them

I am wondering if your Robert Weir might be a cousin to my Robert Weir, born in County Fermanagh in 1787, died in 1878 in Otonabee, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada. Married Catherine Graham. They immigrated about 1822. I think it's an Irish tradition to use family names, so??? Could be related, perhaps. - Karen Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2015, at 4:00 AM, "Rosalie O'Neale via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dave. > > My interest is in Robert Weir (senior) of Glasmullagh (near Lack), who > died in 1890 aged 90. He is the one for whom I have no birth or > marriage records, and no clue where to look next. I do have a death > certificate for him, and thus assume his birth year is about 1800. My > apologies if that wasn't clear - I was trying to provide a complete > background picture and so also included what I know about his > children, in case this family was familiar to members of the FG list. > > My interest is in finding out who his parents were, or siblings, if > possible. I have searched the parish registers that are available > online, and have seen mention of Robert in his children's baptism > listings, in Griffiths records and so on. However, the stumbling > block is taking the research back beyond his birth. > > The links you found for me look very interesting - thank you. I'll > look at these to see if I can find that other Robert (Robert senior's > son) whose fate is another question mark. > > Regards > > Rose O'Neale > (This is a repost, as my earlier one didn't seem to go through) > > Sent from my iPad > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Dave. My interest is in Robert Weir (senior) of Glasmullagh (near Lack), who died in 1890 aged 90. He is the one for whom I have no birth or marriage records, and no clue where to look next. I do have a death certificate for him, and thus assume his birth year is about 1800. My apologies if that wasn't clear - I was trying to provide a complete background picture and so also included what I know about his children, in case this family was familiar to members of the FG list. My interest is in finding out who his parents were, or siblings, if possible. I have searched the parish registers that are available online, and have seen mention of Robert in his children's baptism listings, in Griffiths records and so on. However, the stumbling block is taking the research back beyond his birth. The links you found for me look very interesting - thank you. I'll look at these to see if I can find that other Robert (Robert senior's son) whose fate is another question mark. Regards Rose O'Neale (This is a repost, as my earlier one didn't seem to go through) Sent from my iPad

Rosalie I think that your WEIR family originates with the ARCHDALL and ARMSTRONG families and from the Scottish borders during or between the first plantation of Ireland c1609 and the second around 1642. [From memory] "A Captain Thomas WEIR, and his Cousins" and are described as 'Gent' in the religeous Census. Landlords passed their reliable families around between each other so that spread the families out across two or three Counties. One WEIR family was with Hume at Ely in his Muster Rolls. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Viola, Again you are sharing important info with us. This explains to me why some of my families such as the Bustard family, could have spread out from e.g. Donegal to Fermanagh....or why the Storey family which was in Leitrim was also perhaps in Fermanagh. Also, I have information saying that my gr. gr. grandpa, Alexander Acheson travelled to Scotland. He was supposedly a veterinarian, and so would have at least gone to Edinburgh to train. I need to find info about that. Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:40 AM To: caiside ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Weirs of Glasmullagh and Knockroe Rosalie I think that your WEIR family originates with the ARCHDALL and ARMSTRONG families and from the Scottish borders during or between the first plantation of Ireland c1609 and the second around 1642. [From memory] "A Captain Thomas WEIR, and his Cousins" and are described as 'Gent' in the religeous Census. Landlords passed their reliable families around between each other so that spread the families out across two or three Counties. One WEIR family was with Hume at Ely in his Muster Rolls. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 19/04/2015 10:00, Rosalie O'Neale via wrote: > Thanks Dave. > > My interest is in Robert Weir (senior) of Glasmullagh (near Lack), who > died in 1890 aged 90. He is the one for whom I have no birth or > marriage records, and no clue where to look next. I do have a death > certificate for him, and thus assume his birth year is about 1800. My > apologies if that wasn't clear - I was trying to provide a complete > background picture and so also included what I know about his > children, in case this family was familiar to members of the FG list. > > My interest is in finding out who his parents were, or siblings, if > possible. I have searched the parish registers that are available > online, and have seen mention of Robert in his children's baptism > listings, in Griffiths records and so on. However, the stumbling > block is taking the research back beyond his birth. > > The links you found for me look very interesting - thank you. I'll > look at these to see if I can find that other Robert (Robert senior's > son) whose fate is another question mark. > > Regards > > Rose O'Neale ---------------------------------------------------- No problem.. I know how difficult it is trying to put the likes of your post together so it can be understood by the reader.... You've included a lot, done quite a bit of research etc... it's just what to look for I'm trying to figure out.. IF you guesstimate Robert's father being 25 y.o. in 1800.. son lived to 90 it's possible father lived to a good age..so any Wills?? For Ruth.. what are you looking for? years? I can't see original post but do you know when Robert married? Possible Lease on property around then! As Robert was born c.1800 he might be 1st born, 2nd etc but his father must have married a year or more before 1800 and quite possibly took a lease after marrying, was it registered in Wills/deeds? Some became Methodist.. I only did 'Fermanagh born' 'c of I' ones one Census so might be worth checking Methodist ones too Plus who would have been 70 in early 1900's and did they apply for Pension?? Even those who left Ireland could apply. You've Wills on PRONI.. BUT the Census site has the Pension applications (some for Fermanagh!) and Wills too, the problem there is they are listed where they died!! So if a Fermanagh person died in Dublin he's there under Dublin...

So, Rosalie. Let's concentrate on Robert Weir the elder. What do you know for certain about Robert Weir 1800-1890 and his wife? Did they live? Which townland and parish? Were you able to find their marriage record? Where have you looked? Have you checked burial records for the parish? Are there other Weirs there? What about Griffiths Valuation? or the Tithes? Janet C On 4/18/15 6:28 AM, Rosalie O'Neale wrote: > Dear FG listers > > > I have lurked for many months and learned a great deal along the way. My > thanks to you for your insights (and humour) on the topic of ancestral > research. > > > I am currently exploring my Weir family tree and have hit the proverbial > brick wall. > > > The line I am descended from is that of Robert Weir (c1800-1890) and his > wife Anne Jane Dunstan (or Funstan – the handwriting on some certificates > is not particularly legible). She lived 1796-1870. They were adherents of > the Church of Ireland and according to baptism records of some of their > children lived in 1) Tirmacspird and then 2) Glasmullagh. For the most part > they attended Colaghty/Lack church – this is where most of the baptisms and > marriages took place, according to register information kindly made > available online. > > > Robert and Anne Jane had at least six children, three of whom migrated to > Australia in the 1850s-1860s. Of those who remained in Ireland: > > > I have been told that their daughter, Anne Jane (b c1830), married a Mr > Little, but I can find no record at all confirming her birth, marriage or > death. > > > Their son Robert (b c 1836) married Mary Irvine, and Mary and the children > (as identified through baptism register entries) are listed in the 1901 and > 1911 censuses as still residing in Glasmullagh (Mary’s status is given as > ‘widow’). Beyond the marriage certificate, I have found no record to > indicate what happened to Robert after marriage, or Mary and the children > after 1911. > > > Son John (b c1837 or 1838) married 1) Margaret Hamilton (from Drumharvey) > and 2) Ruth Porter, and lived at Knockroe. Their son (Robert) and his wife > Elizabeth (and their son Jack) were apparently still living at Knockroe in > the 1920s. I have marriage and death certificates for John and Margaret and > records for their children, but not for Ruth or her two children with John > (Bella Catherine and James Samuel). I believe that James died in 1947 and > is buried in the Tirwinney Methodist Church cemetery. > > > While I’m curious about, and still searching for, the descendants of Robert > and Anne in Ireland, the roadblock is Robert himself. I haven’t been able > to find any marriage record or birth record for him, and so have not been > able to identify who his parents were. > > > I thought I’d try approaching this sideways, see if I could find Robert’s > brothers or sisters (on the assumption he would have had siblings). In fact > there are other Weirs in the area including John (of Meilroe, or Millroe – > but where is this? I haven’t been able to find it on a map) who married an > Annie Weir in 1893. According to letters sent to Annie prior to her > marriage from William J Weir (our John’s son) when they both lived in > America, Annie and William were cousins. But whether their fathers were > first or second cousins is yet to be established. > > > There are numerous difficulties raised by the fact that the Weirs were > rather unimaginative in naming their children: every family seemed to have > a Robert, William, David, James and John, with girls being Margaret, Anne > Jane or Isabella. > > > Is the list able to point me in the direction of information sources for > Robert senior? I would be beyond grateful if you could. > > > Rosalie O'Neale >

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=Robert&namel=Weir&location=&yyfrom=1900&yyto=1930&type=D&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&century=&decade=&exact=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&ddPfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&mmPfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&yyPfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&ddPto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&mmPto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&yyPto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&locationP=&keywordb=&keywordm=&keywordd=&keywordp=&event=D&district= gets you 42 Death results for Robert Weir from 1900 to 1930 IF that is the years you're looking for. DH

Well I haven't a clue what you are looking for in Ireland but you seem to be looking for a Robert in Glasmullagh so I found him on 1901 Census, C of I.. It seems you can't find him in 1911 or something so here are all the 'Fermanagh born' 'C of I' Weirs in ALL of Ireland in 1911 as I think that's what you are looking for in Ireland,,, I've read your post a few times trying to figure out what to search for. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=Weir&exact=&firstname=&county19011911=&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=Church+of+Ireland&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=Fermanagh&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=firstnameSort&pageSize=100&houseNumber=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumberDiv=&protNumber=&parish=&barony=&yearsMarried=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familyId=&ageInMonths=&pager.offset=100 might be something new for you DH

Dear FG listers I have lurked for many months and learned a great deal along the way. My thanks to you for your insights (and humour) on the topic of ancestral research. I am currently exploring my Weir family tree and have hit the proverbial brick wall. The line I am descended from is that of Robert Weir (c1800-1890) and his wife Anne Jane Dunstan (or Funstan – the handwriting on some certificates is not particularly legible). She lived 1796-1870. They were adherents of the Church of Ireland and according to baptism records of some of their children lived in 1) Tirmacspird and then 2) Glasmullagh. For the most part they attended Colaghty/Lack church – this is where most of the baptisms and marriages took place, according to register information kindly made available online. Robert and Anne Jane had at least six children, three of whom migrated to Australia in the 1850s-1860s. Of those who remained in Ireland: I have been told that their daughter, Anne Jane (b c1830), married a Mr Little, but I can find no record at all confirming her birth, marriage or death. Their son Robert (b c 1836) married Mary Irvine, and Mary and the children (as identified through baptism register entries) are listed in the 1901 and 1911 censuses as still residing in Glasmullagh (Mary’s status is given as ‘widow’). Beyond the marriage certificate, I have found no record to indicate what happened to Robert after marriage, or Mary and the children after 1911. Son John (b c1837 or 1838) married 1) Margaret Hamilton (from Drumharvey) and 2) Ruth Porter, and lived at Knockroe. Their son (Robert) and his wife Elizabeth (and their son Jack) were apparently still living at Knockroe in the 1920s. I have marriage and death certificates for John and Margaret and records for their children, but not for Ruth or her two children with John (Bella Catherine and James Samuel). I believe that James died in 1947 and is buried in the Tirwinney Methodist Church cemetery. While I’m curious about, and still searching for, the descendants of Robert and Anne in Ireland, the roadblock is Robert himself. I haven’t been able to find any marriage record or birth record for him, and so have not been able to identify who his parents were. I thought I’d try approaching this sideways, see if I could find Robert’s brothers or sisters (on the assumption he would have had siblings). In fact there are other Weirs in the area including John (of Meilroe, or Millroe – but where is this? I haven’t been able to find it on a map) who married an Annie Weir in 1893. According to letters sent to Annie prior to her marriage from William J Weir (our John’s son) when they both lived in America, Annie and William were cousins. But whether their fathers were first or second cousins is yet to be established. There are numerous difficulties raised by the fact that the Weirs were rather unimaginative in naming their children: every family seemed to have a Robert, William, David, James and John, with girls being Margaret, Anne Jane or Isabella. Is the list able to point me in the direction of information sources for Robert senior? I would be beyond grateful if you could. Rosalie O'Neale

Anyone searching for Wilson family, Fermanagh to West Indies?? The Sydney Morning Herald NSW : 29 July 1911 p.12. WILSON.-July 21, John, second beloved son of the late Mr. and Mrs. John Wilson, Mulgoa Forest, near Camden, and formerly of St. Lucia, West Indies, and County Fermanagh, Ireland. Interred at Kiama, Sunday, July 23 1911. Carole.

Dave, bet he'll be more specific next year! Eilish Thanks for Ancestry tip. On 18/04/2015 8:15 AM, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: > Yes................... well I can see how that would do it! :)) > > Dee, > > -----Original Message----- > From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via > Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2015 7:49 AM > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Another present from Ancestry!! > > > No problem Dee... > > I asked him what he wanted for his birthday and he just said "A > surprise!"... > > > ......so I bought him Petrol for the lawn mower!! > > Dave. > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes................... well I can see how that would do it! :)) Dee, -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2015 7:49 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Another present from Ancestry!! No problem Dee... I asked him what he wanted for his birthday and he just said "A surprise!"... ......so I bought him Petrol for the lawn mower!! Dave. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Congratulations to your son, Dave, a pleasant way to celebrate his birthday :) Thanks also for the tip. Dee -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 6:20 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Another present from Ancestry!! As it is my son's birthday this w/end Ancestry has FREE ACCESS to all immigration records. Ends Monday. http://www.ancestry.com/cs/us/april_immigration_campaign DH ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message