Does anyone on the list connect to.... Thomas Adams of Magheracross, who married in 1834 a Mary Cowan, d/of James & Susannah of Magheracross? Thomas & Mary Adams immigrated to NSW in 1854. In 1860 Thomas Adams sponsored a Robert Elliott, s/of Robert & Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott of Clonkeen/Glenkeen to immigrate to NSW. Robert Elliott stated that Thomas Adams was his uncle. This means Mary Cowan Adams was his aunt???? Mary (Cowan) Adams (?his aunt?) was b.1815.... Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott, Robert Elliott's mother was born c.1793. For Mary Adams to have been his aunt, she would have been Mary Ann Elliott's sister???? If someone has more information about this possible family connection, I would appreciate hearing from you. Many thanks, Carole E.

I'm wondering if my untraceable Elliott's from Letterkenny , County Donegal, are related to the Robert Elliott's mentioned herein. Robert Elliott , Canada -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:00 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 163 1. Adams/Cowan Magheracross. (CARELL) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone on the list connect to.... Thomas Adams of Magheracross, who married in 1834 a Mary Cowan, d/of James & Susannah of Magheracross? Thomas & Mary Adams immigrated to NSW in 1854. In 1860 Thomas Adams sponsored a Robert Elliott, s/of Robert & Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott of Clonkeen/Glenkeen to immigrate to NSW. Robert Elliott stated that Thomas Adams was his uncle. This means Mary Cowan Adams was his aunt???? Mary (Cowan) Adams (?his aunt?) was b.1815.... Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott, Robert Elliott's mother was born c.1793. For Mary Adams to have been his aunt, she would have been Mary Ann Elliott's sister???? If someone has more information about this possible family connection, I would appreciate hearing from you. Many thanks, Carole E. ------------------------------

Farrell Could it have been that Mary Adams was his Gt Aunt? Because I would refer to Gt Uncle Alex and Wm Clarke, in conversation, as Uncle Wm etc, But they were my mother's Paternal Uncles, so often spoken of by her, that I also called them Uncle when discussing them with family. I still do when speaking to my sister or cousins about them. My mother's brother William was always Uncle Willie. So that is worth considering because my Mother also came from Magheracross. Viola Sent from my iPad > On 23 Apr 2015, at 03:19, CARELL via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Does anyone on the list connect to.... > Thomas Adams of Magheracross, who married in 1834 > a Mary Cowan, d/of James & Susannah of Magheracross? > Thomas & Mary Adams immigrated to NSW in 1854. > > In 1860 Thomas Adams sponsored a Robert Elliott, > s/of Robert & Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott of Clonkeen/Glenkeen > to immigrate to NSW. > > Robert Elliott stated that Thomas Adams was his uncle. > This means Mary Cowan Adams was his aunt???? > > Mary (Cowan) Adams (?his aunt?) was b.1815.... > Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott, Robert Elliott's mother was born c.1793. > > For Mary Adams to have been his aunt, she would have been > Mary Ann Elliott's sister???? > > If someone has more information about this possible family connection, > I would appreciate hearing from you. > > Many thanks, > Carole E. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No connection BUT nicely set out posting! DH -------------------------------------- On 23/04/2015 03:19, CARELL via wrote: > Does anyone on the list connect to.... > Thomas Adams of Magheracross, who married in 1834 > a Mary Cowan, d/of James & Susannah of Magheracross? > Thomas & Mary Adams immigrated to NSW in 1854. > > In 1860 Thomas Adams sponsored a Robert Elliott, > s/of Robert & Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott of Clonkeen/Glenkeen > to immigrate to NSW. > > Robert Elliott stated that Thomas Adams was his uncle. > This means Mary Cowan Adams was his aunt???? > > Mary (Cowan) Adams (?his aunt?) was b.1815.... > Mary Ann (Cowan) Elliott, Robert Elliott's mother was born c.1793. > > For Mary Adams to have been his aunt, she would have been > Mary Ann Elliott's sister???? > > If someone has more information about this possible family connection, > I would appreciate hearing from you. > > Many thanks, > Carole E.

Thank you so much for searching this out! I'm getting a very strong sense of the Weir family's geographic concentration...and also learning a huge amount about language, place names and such like. It's fascinating stuff. regards Rose On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM, CARELL <carell@bigpond.com.au> wrote: > Rosalie, following my answer to the spelling and location of your > mysterious place name, > more answers to your location question > > Mweelroe is a subtownland (a named area used by local people, but was not > considered important enough to be given townland status by the OS mappers > in > 1830's) > > >

Rosalie, following my answer to the spelling and location of your mysterious place name, more answers to your location question from .....(sent to me) 1) Clive Killyfole and District Development Association <gold@fermanaghroots.com> and 2) Bud Flanaghan William J Flanagan <liam@cox.net> Mweelroe is a subtownland (a named area used by local people, but was not considered important enough to be given townland status by the OS mappers in 1830's) I have attached an early OS map of the townland, in which you can see Mweelroe written across it. It is interesting that they decided to drop it as the townland to the South is Mweelbane or "white hill", where as Mweelroe would probably be "Red hill or Hill of the Foxes" depending how the roe was pronounced locally. I have added the variations of spelling to OSM so they should start to be searchable in the near future. ie go to OSM.org and search for Millroe and you will be able to find it on the OpenStreetMap. and from Bud Flanaghan @ William J Flanagan <liam@cox.net> on the maps of Cul Maine parish The original spelling is Oghillicartan (Mweelroe) It is surronded by" on the north & N east by county Tyrone. on the small east side by Stranadariff. on the bottom of it is Mweelbane on the s. west is Coolaghty on the west side by Tirmacspird the longest distance is from SW to Ne , about 3/4 mile >From NW to SE is abour 1/3 of a mile/ in 1834, there were only two large structures. FROM; Landscapes of S. Ulster

Clive, below Rose's question about her Weir family location. > One more question. I’ve seen ‘Mielroe’ (also Millroe, Mulroe) written in > some records. I gather it’s near Lack, but it doesn’t appear as a townland > on any of the maps I’ve looked at. Can anyone help me with its location? I found the correct spelling of the place name, but your explanation of her location question, took the answer to another level. She will no doubt be very happy to have this mysterious location solved. Best wishes, Carole E.

Thank you Carole. I don’t think I have a connection here but interesting he was interred at Kiama. Also interesting, the date of Sunday July 23, 1911 is the day my mother was born (in Armidale NSW) Margaret > On 18 Apr 2015, at 10:38, CARELL via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Anyone searching for Wilson family, Fermanagh to West Indies?? > > The Sydney Morning Herald NSW : 29 July 1911 p.12. > WILSON.-July 21, John, second beloved son of the > late Mr. and Mrs. John Wilson, Mulgoa Forest, near > Camden, and formerly of St. Lucia, West Indies, and > County Fermanagh, Ireland. Interred at Kiama, > Sunday, July 23 1911. > > Carole. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

onthe maps of Cul Maine parish The original spelling is Oghillicartan (Mweelroe) It is surronded by" on the north & N east by county Tyrone. on the small east side by Stranadariff. on the bottom of it is Mweelbane on the s. west is Coolaghty on the west side by Tirmacspird the longest distance is from SW to Ne , about 3/4 mile >From NW to SE is abour 1/3 of a mile/ in 1834, there were only two large structures. FROM; Landscapes of S. Ulster Bud Flanagan, in Arizona

There a few Archdale Estate rentals here http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=89 best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:58:07 +1000 > To: FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Weirs of Glasmullagh and Knockroe > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > Thank you all so much for your helpful advice. > > Viola – If that is so, then it’s much earlier than any of us (the > descendants now living in Australia) thought. (I see from the 1862 > Griffiths evaluations that Robert is listed in Glasmullagh as being a > tenant of Edward Archdall, so the name is familiar). I will check out that > census, as well as the Muster Rolls. > > Janet – the certain facts about Robert are: that he was married to Anne. > Birth records for their children indicate that they lived in Tirmacspird > and then Glasmullagh. Emigration records for the three sons who left gave > ‘Glasmullagh’ as their home location. I have found a death record for > Robert aged 90 in Glasmullagh, and similarly for Anne who died in 1873. > These recrods are a little spare on identifying information, so I’m going > on the fact that the ages/dates fit, they’re in the right location, and the > witness to the death is someone whose name ‘fits’ within the family (eg, > ‘attended by grandson William’). (This is, of course, not helped by the > fact that everyone is called by the same name, pretty much). > > I have not been able to track down a marriage record for Robert and Anne > looking in any of the listings that are available online (I’ve been through > all the churches listed on the IGP archives with a fine tooth comb), nor > burial records. In fact, just as an aside, there are very few records of > the final resting place of any of my Weir ancestors. I have looked at the > various listings of memorials (ie, transcriptions of grave stones) that are > online, but I haven’t been able to locate actual burial registers. > Presumably these are now with PRONI, but have not yet been digitised. (?) > > There are Weirs in the surrounding townlands, but not in Glasmullagh. I > have looked at the Griffiths valuations, but not the Tithes. I will look > there next! > > Dave – I will look again at Wills, especially in other locations. I’d never > even thought about leases, so many thanks for that suggestion. > . > Karen – Hi there, I saw your post from last year as I was searching through > the archive, so I’m glad you’ve posted again. I’m with you on the family > naming tradition. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of our family went > to Canada. Quite a few came here to Australia, and some went to the US. > > Carell – Thank you so much for the pointer to the Archdale papers. I can’t > see if these are available online, so this may need to wait until I visit > sometime in 2016 or 2017 (hopefully). > > One more question. I’ve seen ‘Mielroe’ (also Millroe, Mulroe) written in > some records. I gather it’s near Lack, but it doesn’t appear as a townland > on any of the maps I’ve looked at. Can anyone help me with its location? > > Thanks again. > > Rose O'Neale > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One more question. I’ve seen ‘Mielroe’ (also Millroe, Mulroe) written in some records. I gather it’s near Lack, but it doesn’t appear as a townland on any of the maps I’ve looked at. Can anyone help me with its location? Rose, not a townland.....a minor place name. http://www.placenamesni.org/search.php Placename Type 1851 Parish Current Parish Barony County Mweelroe *M Drumkeeran Drumkeeran Lurg Fermanagh * M - Minor place name (i.e. not part of the historical administrative system) Carole.

Thank you all so much for your helpful advice. Viola – If that is so, then it’s much earlier than any of us (the descendants now living in Australia) thought. (I see from the 1862 Griffiths evaluations that Robert is listed in Glasmullagh as being a tenant of Edward Archdall, so the name is familiar). I will check out that census, as well as the Muster Rolls. Janet – the certain facts about Robert are: that he was married to Anne. Birth records for their children indicate that they lived in Tirmacspird and then Glasmullagh. Emigration records for the three sons who left gave ‘Glasmullagh’ as their home location. I have found a death record for Robert aged 90 in Glasmullagh, and similarly for Anne who died in 1873. These recrods are a little spare on identifying information, so I’m going on the fact that the ages/dates fit, they’re in the right location, and the witness to the death is someone whose name ‘fits’ within the family (eg, ‘attended by grandson William’). (This is, of course, not helped by the fact that everyone is called by the same name, pretty much). I have not been able to track down a marriage record for Robert and Anne looking in any of the listings that are available online (I’ve been through all the churches listed on the IGP archives with a fine tooth comb), nor burial records. In fact, just as an aside, there are very few records of the final resting place of any of my Weir ancestors. I have looked at the various listings of memorials (ie, transcriptions of grave stones) that are online, but I haven’t been able to locate actual burial registers. Presumably these are now with PRONI, but have not yet been digitised. (?) There are Weirs in the surrounding townlands, but not in Glasmullagh. I have looked at the Griffiths valuations, but not the Tithes. I will look there next! Dave – I will look again at Wills, especially in other locations. I’d never even thought about leases, so many thanks for that suggestion. . Karen – Hi there, I saw your post from last year as I was searching through the archive, so I’m glad you’ve posted again. I’m with you on the family naming tradition. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of our family went to Canada. Quite a few came here to Australia, and some went to the US. Carell – Thank you so much for the pointer to the Archdale papers. I can’t see if these are available online, so this may need to wait until I visit sometime in 2016 or 2017 (hopefully). One more question. I’ve seen ‘Mielroe’ (also Millroe, Mulroe) written in some records. I gather it’s near Lack, but it doesn’t appear as a townland on any of the maps I’ve looked at. Can anyone help me with its location? Thanks again. Rose O'Neale

Bud, Thank you again. James -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 4/20/15, William J Flanagan <liam@cox.net> wrote: Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Doon (and Eshcleagh) To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com, "James Mullan" <jamesmullan@rogers.com> Date: Monday, April 20, 2015, 5:47 PM Map # 19 on page 63 top of the page to the left good hunting Bud Flanagan

Map # 19 on page 63 top of the page to the left good hunting Bud Flanagan

From:- http://devere.wordpress.com/our-quest-for-family-tree-information-and-subsequent-journey-to-the-barony/ William Vere of Stonebyres by Elizabeth Hamilton – a son Thomas Vere of Kirkton who by the Witch – Lady Jane Somerville – had Major Thomas Weir of Edinburgh: Sorcerer, King of the Witches of the Lallan and Elven Prince Consort to the Queen of Faery or Elphame – or as some say – “The Queen of Hell”. The Somerville Badge was the Fiery Dragon surmounting the Pentacle. Major Thomas Weir served with his Irish cousins as a Captain Lieutenant in Sir John Hume’s Enniskillen regiment in Ulster in 1640 and by family tradition he founded the Tyrone Branch of the family. >From Major Thomas Weir – who was burnt at the stake at Leith, Edinburgh in 1670 – a son Thomas whose issue decamped to Ireland during the witch craze, from whom John Weir of Kildress whose son Andrew Weir had a daughter – Margaret Weir of Vere of Kildress – who by Archibald Thompson had a son Archibald Weir of Vere, who married Rachael Stewart and had issue. The eldest son Robert Weir of Vere married a Vere cousin – Sarah Graham – and had a son John Weir who moved back to Scotland and married Mary Logan of Logan Manor in Galloway. The Logan families have held their lands in Galloway and the Stranraer Peninsula since the 1100’s, whilst others of that name held Restalrig. Accompanying Sir James Douglas, two Logan Knights, Sir Walter and Sir Robert Logan, were killed in Spain whilst taking the heart of Robert the Bruce to the Holy Land for burial. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

On 20/04/2015 13:29, ehaggarty via wrote: > I have a Weir family from the Crawfordjohn area of Lanarkshire, Scotland. A > lot were from that area. Some I have noticed in Canada and I believe from > Ireland spelled their name Wier. Also, but can't remember but a name change > as well. It may have been NcNair or something similar. > Eleanor I've seen it something similar and also Wahyr, Wier and Weir

Found William WEIR Born: 1835, Glassmullagh , FER Marriage: Mary MULDOON on 14 May 1856 in Co. Fermanagh, NIR Died: 16 May 1916, Gerringong, NSW at age 81 Buried: 17 May 1916, Gerringong Cemetery, NSW 152 Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Bud, Thank you. Is the map in the book titled 'Landscapes of South Ulster' by Patrick J. Duffy and James Keenan? James -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 4/20/15, William J Flanagan <liam@cox.net> wrote: Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Doon (and Eshcleagh) To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com, "James Mullan" <jamesmullan@rogers.com> Date: Monday, April 20, 2015, 3:54 PM Parish of Clones I wrote what I saw on the map.

Rosaline, IF you will contact me off list I've done a lot of WEIR research for someone else in Co Cavan and I'll send you what I have as an attached File. It is 231kb so I hope it won't over power you. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

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