This is a link to a WEIR letter which I found on the above site. Gives a little pen picture of life in the old country. Incidently Weir's Bridge was named after the two Eel Weirs on the River Erne where it was built. Viola http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ied/records/29906 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Dave, It was also the content of the interviews which I found interesting. This is the kind of history which explains a great deal, but can rarely be found in the voice of the people who lived through it; to hear their experiences in their own voices was amazing. Most importantly, they directly relate to our various family trees and family histories. >From a personal perspective, I gradually expanded my thinking to other Townlands, then Counties - now countries (NI and Eire). When one is able to lose the mindset, one finds a deeperr understanding of every situation. Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 3:33 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Landmark... landlines!! Must admit I didn't listen to any of them Dee, just thought they might show how simple it is for families to be in two counties if a son married and there was a farm just down the road to rent in next county. Didn't know of web site until I searched for the bridge Carl was asking about, so glad you enjoyed the interviews etc even just for the different accents. Dave. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
How amazing! Dave, please accept my grateful thanks for posting this site. The photos of the border crossings are in themselves really interesting - but it is the interviews which I found profoundly moving. Decided to begin at Cavan/Fermanagh, and listened to one Jude McGovern of Swanlinbar - realising he could be one of my distant relatives! The accents are quite different and distinctive in each County, and all I have so far heard differ markedly from the interviewer who obviously comes from another part of Ireland. Also found Dolan Lane border crossing near Belleek. There is one thrilled lady in Oz today. Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015 5:21 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Landmark... landlines!! While not answering your question Carl I did come across this site.. http://www.borderroadmemories.com/image-galleries/?keyword&county=Fermanagh& bordertype&imagetype Many people will drive these roads on not spot anything.. I can see it plainly in most!! What am I on about?? The county line! In many of these you can clearly see where one county ends and next starts and into which one doing research should really look at... Where does one county end and next start?? Just look at the difference on road surface!! or where road markings end, or where weeds in middle of road stops... With that in mind one should clearly see how simple it was for one person to live in one county and a son etc in next and even today these are where Republic of Ireland ends and Northern Ireland starts and you can clearly see the high security border controls, passport controllers, high security fences and how difficult it is to get from one county to next and it would have been just as difficult for one's kin.. .. the first one shows Fermanagh/Monaghan and you can see how simple it is for one to be in Monaghan and an ancestor in Fermanagh, or to have land in both etc. DH (bridgehunting!)
I suppose having lived here through those times we just take it for granted so I can understand what you mean and indeed interviews etc are few and far between, will listen to a few after your expert advice!! :-)) Dave Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Landmark... landlines!! /Date:/ Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:48:30 +1000 /References:/ <579E8677-FA99-4940-B7FF-9EFCD0336897@northwestel.net> <553B404D.9060903@gmail.com> <001101d0816f$69e06150$3da123f0$@bigpond.net.au><553F1B94.200@gmail.com> /In-Reply-To:/ <553F1B94.200@gmail.com> Dave, It was also the content of the interviews which I found interesting. This is the kind of history which explains a great deal, but can rarely be found in the voice of the people who lived through it; to hear their experiences in their own voices was amazing. Most importantly, they directly relate to our various family trees and family histories. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
My favorite one with more than 7 arches and a beautiful walk... http://ie.geoview.info/disused_railway_viaduct_ballydehob_west_cork,8328317p DH On 28/04/2015 00:01, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > Being an ex Railway employee I think of the many Railway Bridges or Viaducts > that would have a number of arches to carry the trains across a river Road > or Valley to reduct the gradient.. > One example is the Boyne Railway Bridge which incidently has seven arches > carrying the railway up to c60 ft above the roadway.. Annother was the > Weir's Girder Bridge over the River Erne but I can't remember how many > Stancheons it had. It is about 70 years since I climbed it one Tuesday. > When I got in throu the door of my home on the Friday my mother gave me such > a whach. > She had happened to be on the railcar and saw me sheltering in one of the > Boxes formed by the Girders to let the train pass. > A sore lesson learned that evening. > Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Karen That bridge carried the SL&NC railway across the River Erne just outside Enniskillen. Near where the Killyhevlin Hotel is now. In the old Regal Cinema there used to be a mural depicting it. It was reputed to have been painted by Andy Davis, who worked for Nelson's Painters &Decorators. As far as I know that mural still exists in what is now the Unionist's Hall in Enniskillen Viola Sent from my iPad > On 28 Apr 2015, at 03:31, Karen Howard via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Viola, where was/is Weir's Girder Bridge located? What town?
Must admit I didn't listen to any of them Dee, just thought they might show how simple it is for families to be in two counties if a son married and there was a farm just down the road to rent in next county. Didn't know of web site until I searched for the bridge Carl was asking about, so glad you enjoyed the interviews etc even just for the different accents. Dave. On 28/04/2015 05:54, Dee Byster-Graham wrote: > How amazing! > > Dave, please accept my grateful thanks for posting this site. > The photos of the border crossings are in themselves really interesting - > but it is the interviews which I found profoundly moving. > Decided to begin at Cavan/Fermanagh, and listened to one Jude McGovern of > Swanlinbar - realising he could be one of my distant relatives! > The accents are quite different and distinctive in each County, and all I > have so far heard differ markedly from the interviewer who obviously comes > from another part of Ireland. > > Also found Dolan Lane border crossing near Belleek. > There is one thrilled lady in Oz today. > > Kindly, > De --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Being an ex Railway employee I think of the many Railway Bridges or Viaducts that would have a number of arches to carry the trains across a river Road or Valley to reduct the gradient.. One example is the Boyne Railway Bridge which incidently has seven arches carrying the railway up to c60 ft above the roadway.. Annother was the Weir's Girder Bridge over the River Erne but I can't remember how many Stancheons it had. It is about 70 years since I climbed it one Tuesday. When I got in throu the door of my home on the Friday my mother gave me such a whach. She had happened to be on the railcar and saw me sheltering in one of the Boxes formed by the Girders to let the train pass. A sore lesson learned that evening. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Do you mean Ulster Historical Foundation? They ate based in Belfast I think. My genealogy society in Ottawa Canada hosted them for a day. We were their first stop on a 2.5 week North American tour. They do have a week long course at least once a year. Go on the UHF website to see what they are all about. Anne Sterling Ottawa Canada On Apr 26, 2015 7:26 AM, "Stephen Maguire via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I came across a "Tracing your Irish ancestor conference" being run by the > Ulster Heritage Foundation. It seems to base out of Dublin. They have > September and October trips in 2015. They assist you with research at the > PRONI, Archives, etc as well as run some day trips of historical interest. > > Can anyone offer experiences with this organization? > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Came across the Laghey site http://lagheyblastfestival.com/?page_id=2 It claims to have one of only three 7 arch bridges in the country. There is one in Limerick, one in Mayo and the third above is in Donegal - although it is not that far from Belleek . Bob Graham
Viola, where was/is Weir's Girder Bridge located? What town? - Karen Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Viola Wiggins via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Being an ex Railway employee I think of the many Railway Bridges or Viaducts > that would have a number of arches to carry the trains across a river Road > or Valley to reduct the gradient.. > One example is the Boyne Railway Bridge which incidently has seven arches > carrying the railway up to c60 ft above the roadway.. Annother was the > Weir's Girder Bridge over the River Erne but I can't remember how many > Stancheons it had. It is about 70 years since I climbed it one Tuesday. > When I got in throu the door of my home on the Friday my mother gave me such > a whach. > She had happened to be on the railcar and saw me sheltering in one of the > Boxes formed by the Girders to let the train pass. > A sore lesson learned that evening. > Viola > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There was a post about it being on River Finn, so I posted that. Might be correct bridge or not. DH On 27/04/2015 20:04, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > I'm confused! The bridge in the picture is on the Tyrone/Donegal border. I > thought the original poster was looking for a 7 arch bridge in Aghalurcher > Civil Parish in Co Fermanagh? > > This is the one at Ballindarragh on Bing, unfortunately I cant get a clear > angle to count the number of arches, there are at least 4 but with the bend > in the road there could well be more. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
I'm confused! The bridge in the picture is on the Tyrone/Donegal border. I thought the original poster was looking for a 7 arch bridge in Aghalurcher Civil Parish in Co Fermanagh? This is the one at Ballindarragh on Bing, unfortunately I cant get a clear angle to count the number of arches, there are at least 4 but with the bend in the road there could well be more. http://binged.it/1OwwMo8 On Monday 27 Apr 2015 17:14:32 Dave H via wrote: > Posted a picture of it here.. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2015-04/1430119 > 743 > > DH
Hi Viola, On Sunday evening we were watching the service from Gallipoli for Anzac Day and I noticed a Wiggins on the memorial behind our Prime Minister as he was speaking. I think it was an “A” but am not absolutely sure about the initial. It would have been an Australian soldier and I presume the memorial recorded the deaths. I just thought you may be interested. Hope you are keeping well, Kind regards, Margaret
Posted a picture of it here.. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2015-04/1430119743 DH On 27/04/2015 17:04, Killyfole and District Development Association via wrote: > Could it be the Ballindarragh bridge on the Gola Road? > > Its the only wide enough bridge I can think of on the same river (now called > the Colebrook River) as Maguiresbridge. I might be out that way tomorrow. If > the weather holds up Ill try and count the number of arches on it! > > Clive > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Could it be the Ballindarragh bridge on the Gola Road? Its the only wide enough bridge I can think of on the same river (now called the Colebrook River) as Maguiresbridge. I might be out that way tomorrow. If the weather holds up Ill try and count the number of arches on it! Clive On Saturday 25 Apr 2015 19:36:37 Viola Wiggins via wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > Carl, > > My friend Google found a mention of "A substantial structure" describing a > > seven arch bridge in Aghalucher. This is the link. Viola > > http://ukga.org/ireland/Fermanagh/towns/Aghalurcher.html > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you for thinking about me. Some of my late Hubby's family are in Australia but only since the end of 2nd WW [I think] Although there could have been some there before then as previous generations were large families and the 'Male' gene seemed preveland in about every other generation. Ken's brother Denis had no family, but his other brother Bernard and sister Ethel and of course Ken, only produced Girls There was only two boys Charles, who went to OZ and Jack Ken's Dad they had three sisters. But Joseph Ken's Gfather had 8 siblings and 6 were boys. So one of them may be the stem of that OZ line. I've not gone into that side branch just yet. But there was an Albert Wiggins in Ken's GGfather's side so I'll look into that as it might be him. Then there is a Thomas Wiggins and his family who arrived with the British forces in the south of Ireland c1690 and spread north to the Rosslea/Roslea area. Those are married into the family of my Nephew's wife. Water finds it's own level I keep telling her. Tee Hee as Ray would say. She just lives over the road from me and is like a daughter to me. We've heard from Eilish in the Newcastle area of Hunter Valley and she is OK but was without power for 3 or 4 days. Bless her. Hope you are all OK as I am here. Still busy trying to help people sort their Irish ancestors and that is an enjoyable passtime. I'd be lost without my Computer. Thank you again Hugs and love Vi --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
I just came across a record for a Mary McCue, age 20, b. Ireland, working as a domestic servant in Bridgeport, Conneticut, USA in 1870 census, with a family named Baldwin headed by Julia A. Hope this helps someone. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare
http://www.geograph.ie/photo/1320214 DH http://www.geograph.ie/search.php?i=55408119&page=1 http://www.geograph.ie/photo/4024438 http://www.geograph.ie/photo/824113 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Stephen This is the link to the National Archives of Ireland Index to the Tithe Applotment books Search page. titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search Click on Leitrim, then Cloonclare and search for MAGUIRE that gives 83 records for that name listed for 1835. Those records give the heads of family of occupiers of more than one acre of productive land liable to pay Tithe to the Established Church. Carl and I did meet the when he visited Fermanagh and he is an experienced researcher. The more information we have regarding your ancestor while he lived in Ireland helps us to help you. I researched Methodist Churches in Cloonclare Parish Manorhamilton http://methodisthistoryireland.org/index-of-irish-methodist-churches/ Methodist Churchs Drumkeerin (Drumkeeran) Manorhamilton Leitrim Built in 1838 CHC.iii.261 re opening - by 1897 it was in very bad state. Sold 1961-62 for £150. Mins 1962 Manorhamilton I P W Manorhamilton Leitrim Cloonclare 1792 Sold 1879 Manorhamilton II Manorhamilton Leitrim Sold (with hall, stables and old Manse) in 1963 for £2,000 and replaced by new church and hall. Mins 1963 p.81. Moneenlum Schoolhouse Manorhamilton Leitrim Cloonclare Built in 1866 Opened 25 April 1866 [Irish Evangelist April 1866 p.48] PRONI 2/103 NOTE There were two of Methodism The Primitative Methodists, [PMC] retained their link with the Established church. Church of Ireland. The Charles Wesley [WM] followers established the second Most of the PMC records, before civil registration, will be found in Ch of Ireland records, But PM records are mostly retained by that Movement, usually in local custody. After Civil registration Events [BMDs] were recorded within their own Church [Referred to in Ireland as Preaching Houses] but the local Registrar had to be informed or Present at the event. Thay is why Some Marriages or Baptisms are recorded twice at different venues, or in the case of my own Gt Uncle in different Counties. Clooneclare Parish extended down as far as the Fermanagh Border and in actual fact Letterbreen is included within that parish because the same minister served in both places at one time. So you are moving yourr family and Carl's closer together.I have copies this to Carl. Hope that helps you Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com