Elliott & Wilson Ancestors! William Elliott married Rebecca Wilson c.1818, place of marriage unknown. No Parents or original townland found for b.c.1796, Rebecca Wilson. No father found for b.c.1797 William Elliott, a reedmaker. No original Elliott townland found. In 1821 census William's mother Elizabeth Elliott b.c. 1768, a widow, maiden name unknown. William & Rebecca first recorded in Irvinestown in 1819, at the C.of I. baptism of their first known child. Both were recorded in the 1821 Irvinestown Census, with 2 year old son Alexander and William's mother Elizabeth b.c.1768. William recorded in the 1835 Tithe Applotment for Tullynagarn townland, Irvinestown. No further records found after 1835. Both William and Rebecca noted deceased in 1853, on NSW immigration record for their b.1826 daughter. Help! :-) Carole (Elliott.)

Robert, I just wish Wilson Elliott was alive now. I think he was one of the Elliott family in question, but I need to ask David or Geoffrey Armstrong about their Wilson connection on their maternal side. Being away living in England for over 35 years I lost touch of the Elliot/Elliott and Wilsons in Killesher. About every other household seems to be connected to them. They are only recognisable by their nicknames or known townland, but in my opinion all stem from a single root, so long ago that the oral history of each generation has been lost in time. Viola Sent from my iPad > On 7 May 2015, at 12:10, Bob & Jean Elliott via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > REF: Message 5 > Wilson / Elliott > > Don't recognise any names. > > Robert Elliott > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David The Trimble house is the old thatched one, now derelect, that I showed you at the bottom of the Bog Road near the bridge, where we turned right after Rossmac. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Folks I have a Job Wilson marrying Mary Jane Elliott in Killesher Parish on 17 November 1880. They had a daughter Emily in 1884 who married William Trimble in 1923. Job and Mary lived in Greentown, Killesher but I don't know where Emily lived after her marriage. Has anybody come across any of them or know if Emily and William had any children? Thanks David

REF: Message 5 Wilson / Elliott Don't recognise any names. Robert Elliott

Yes I did put... " Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922" ...on my post. On 06/05/2015 16:45, Ulster Ancestry wrote: > I think I need to correct that to 1920!! > > regards > > Robert > > > > To: hallmarkone@gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 15:40:27 +0000 > > CC: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's > available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland > > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > > This applies only to the Republic of Ireland not Northern Ireland > > Here the latest inquest available as a public record is 1914 > > Inquests can be very traumatic for the family involved and the 100 > year rule is in place to protect and guard their privacy. > > > > regards > > Robert > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 21:34:47 +0100 > > > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's > available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland > > > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922 > > > > > > Copies of the post-mortem report and depositions taken at inquest > > > including a copy of the verdict are available from the coroner’s > office > > > on payment of the statutory fee, once the inquest has concluded. It > > > should be noted that inquest papers are generally not available > prior to > > > the inquest being held. > > > > > > The Freedom of Information Act 1997 does not apply to coroners > inquests > > > and inquiries. Documents are available under the Coroner’s Act > 1962 [see > > > also S.I. No. 429 of 2000 (Fees and Expenses)]. > > > > > > http://www.coronerdublincity.ie/faqs/inquest.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > > > > This explains what is available at PRONI. > > > > There is also a link to search by name. > > > > Viola > > > > > > > > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ================================== > > > > > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > > > ================================== > > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > ================================== > > > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > > ================================== > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ================================== > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > ================================== > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I think I need to correct that to 1920!! regards Robert > To: hallmarkone@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 15:40:27 +0000 > CC: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > This applies only to the Republic of Ireland not Northern Ireland > Here the latest inquest available as a public record is 1914 > Inquests can be very traumatic for the family involved and the 100 year rule is in place to protect and guard their privacy. > > regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 21:34:47 +0100 > > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland > > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > > Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922 > > > > Copies of the post-mortem report and depositions taken at inquest > > including a copy of the verdict are available from the coroner’s office > > on payment of the statutory fee, once the inquest has concluded. It > > should be noted that inquest papers are generally not available prior to > > the inquest being held. > > > > The Freedom of Information Act 1997 does not apply to coroners inquests > > and inquiries. Documents are available under the Coroner’s Act 1962 [see > > also S.I. No. 429 of 2000 (Fees and Expenses)]. > > > > http://www.coronerdublincity.ie/faqs/inquest.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > > > This explains what is available at PRONI. > > > There is also a link to search by name. > > > Viola > > > > > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > ================================== > > > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > > ================================== > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > ================================== > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > ================================== > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This applies only to the Republic of Ireland not Northern Ireland Here the latest inquest available as a public record is 1914 Inquests can be very traumatic for the family involved and the 100 year rule is in place to protect and guard their privacy. regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 21:34:47 +0100 > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922 > > Copies of the post-mortem report and depositions taken at inquest > including a copy of the verdict are available from the coroner’s office > on payment of the statutory fee, once the inquest has concluded. It > should be noted that inquest papers are generally not available prior to > the inquest being held. > > The Freedom of Information Act 1997 does not apply to coroners inquests > and inquiries. Documents are available under the Coroner’s Act 1962 [see > also S.I. No. 429 of 2000 (Fees and Expenses)]. > > http://www.coronerdublincity.ie/faqs/inquest.htm > > > > > > > > > On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > > This explains what is available at PRONI. > > There is also a link to search by name. > > Viola > > > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ================================== > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > ================================== > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello BrendaThe transcriptions of Inquests are closed documents for 100 years so a 1929 inquest will not be in the public domain until 2029, however you can make an application to see it or be told its contents under a Freedom of Information Request directly to PRONI.{just google the above and get instructions on how to do that} They will decide if you can be told of its contents or not. If not, they will give you a reason why. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 08:35:54 -0400 > To: FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Inquest > From: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > > > Is there a way to get a transcript of a "inquest" into a death in 1929? > > Regards, > Brenda Edmonds > beedmonds@hotmail.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a matter of googling.... https://www.courtsni.gov.uk/en-GB/Services/Coroners/findings/Pages/coroners_Findings.aspx -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Coroners' inquest papers - what's available? | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 21:34:47 +0100 From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922 Copies of the post-mortem report and depositions taken at inquest including a copy of the verdict are available from the coroner’s office on payment of the statutory fee, once the inquest has concluded. It should be noted that inquest papers are generally not available prior to the inquest being held. The Freedom of Information Act 1997 does not apply to coroners inquests and inquiries. Documents are available under the Coroner’s Act 1962 [see also S.I. No. 429 of 2000 (Fees and Expenses)]. http://www.coronerdublincity.ie/faqs/inquest.htm On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > This explains what is available at PRONI. > There is also a link to search by name. > Viola > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > Sent from my iPad > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Republic of Ireland.. and should cover Pre 1922 Copies of the post-mortem report and depositions taken at inquest including a copy of the verdict are available from the coroner’s office on payment of the statutory fee, once the inquest has concluded. It should be noted that inquest papers are generally not available prior to the inquest being held. The Freedom of Information Act 1997 does not apply to coroners inquests and inquiries. Documents are available under the Coroner’s Act 1962 [see also S.I. No. 429 of 2000 (Fees and Expenses)]. http://www.coronerdublincity.ie/faqs/inquest.htm On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > This explains what is available at PRONI. > There is also a link to search by name. > Viola > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > Sent from my iPad > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

On 05/05/2015 21:23, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > This explains what is available at PRONI. > There is also a link to search by name. > Viola > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm > > > Sent from my iPad > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

This explains what is available at PRONI. There is also a link to search by name. Viola http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/proninames/coroners__inquest__papers_-_whats_available.htm Sent from my iPad

Brenda, Depending on the importance of the person and where the person was from, the result of the Inquest MIGHT have been published in the local Press at that time. Otherwise it just MIGHT be held in the Records Office of either PRONI Belfast or NAI Dublin deposited with Coroner's Papers. An Inquest that I have been trying to find for a Murdered relative at Omagh [Stabbing] has never turned up. It remains in the "Family lore" section of my Tree. So nothing guarranteed. Viola > Is there a way to get a transcript of a "inquest" into a death in 1929? > Regards, > Brenda Edmonds > beedmonds@hotmail.com > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Is there a way to get a transcript of a "inquest" into a death in 1929? Regards, Brenda Edmonds beedmonds@hotmail.com

If you had ancestors admitted to the workhouse, you may/or may not, like to read the month to month detailed information, listed in the link below..... http://applications.proni.gov.uk/LL_DCAL_PRONI_ECATNI/ResultDetails.aspx Title : Minute book (manuscript). 24 July 18 Dates : September 1840-August 1846 Description : Minute book (manuscript). 24 July 1843 41st meeting of the Enniskillen Board of Guardians. Present in the chair: William Archdale Esq. Other Guardians: Samuel Firth, James Copeland, James Magovern, William Adams, Captain Corry, William Armstrong, Thomas Kernahan, James Armstrong, Henry Armstrong, John Magovern Junior, Richard Kirkpatrick, Terence McGovern, Quaker Crawford, James Ellis, William Blair, James Montgomery. 6 October 1845 Tenders for workhouse supplies. Andrew Kidney 4 lb. loaf of white bread at 7d. per lb. Thomas Crook "dipt" candles 5s. 6d. per dozen Robert Huston potatoes 3s. 6d. per "hundred" '.... there were no tenders sent in for oat meal sweet milk buttermilk or straw.'

Viola's post brings back happy memories of schoolboy holidays down around Crom, setting eel lines overnight ( hundreds of yards long), the excitement of what you would (inevitably) discover the following morning, nailing then to a door post to skin them and the delicious meal that followed - fried & garnished with boiled spuds and butter. In more recent times, commercial interests took hold and I believe 'our' eels ended up being shipped to the continent to fulfil German recipes. Michael. Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:48:44 +0100 From: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Eels To: "Dee Byster-Graham" <deebg@bigpond.net.au>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1B3BF7759FF541AEA945EDDBCECDE140@HP93792624821> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original When I was a child [Good name for the book?] there was a man who used to buy all the Eels caught. He was known to me only as "The Eel man", and he stored floating boxes of Eels in Rossole Lough beside the Sligo Road in Enniskillen,. They were exported to London I think. [. . . .]

Quick look-up: Weil's Disease is another name for leptospirosis, a horrible bacterial disease caught from rats. it infects most mammals (as far as I know) , and particularly deadly to dogs. The yearly canine inoculations have an anti-leptospirosis component in them - at least here in Oz they do. Kindly Dee.

Vi, Your stories are amazing - as we read them we feel we are there with the men winnowing the grain. Another important use for those eel skins, but such hard labour - those threshing machines mush have been a blessing when they were finally invented. Have not heard of Weils Disease, must look it up on our friend google. Kindly Dee. -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins [mailto:viola.wiggins@tesco.net] Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 7:27 PM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Eel skin uses. In ancient times, before machinery was introduced for threshing, Corn or other Grain crops was threshed by using Flails. These were pieces of round sticks, usually Ash, about a yard or so long had a dried Eel skin attached at each end. The corn Sheaves were laid on a cloth to catch the grain and chaff. Two people, standing oposite each other, operated two Flails by using them to beat the sheaf head winding the Flails like skipping ropes. alternating the sticks weilded by the two persons. The Straw would be lifted aside and the next sheaves Threshed. After that operation was completed the grain and chaff would be 'Winnowed' by being put on a sheet of tin or a tray and tossed into the air allowing the wind to blow the light chaff away but the heavier grain would fall back onto the tray.. Very labour intensive. Threshing machines, operated by, in our cast a Lister petrol engine, did all that in one operation The sheaves were opened, spread out, and fed in grain end first, by men on a platform at the back of the Thresher. The clean straw was delivered by paddles at the front of the Thresher, the chaff was blown out to the right, and the Grain came down a chute into bags on the left. It always seemed to me like Magic how each was delivered in each place. The Chaff was also bagged to bed the Duck house because they were such messy individuals. Never layed in nests only on the floor of their house so the Chaff kept the eggs clean. Threshing day was always an exciting day because people came to help and they brought their dogs of various mongrel breeds but considered "Good Ratters" As the Corn stack got near the bottom the Dogs surrounded it and any Rats, which might have nested beneath the Stack, would bolt out, but were despatched by the dogs before they could escape. It was necessary to keep the Rat population down on a farm because what they did not attack and eat they contaminated. A serious deisease called Weils Disease was carried by them. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I'm in lovely Leitrim but often up Fermanagh way, usually not by the main roads as I have the habit of driving along, see a road and wonder where it goes... so I go it! Drives my good lady mad... :-)) but she loves the places we end up in, way off beaten track. Too many speed cameras on main roads anyway..grrrr I wouldn't mind a copy of booklet sometime! Am I on holiday? My good lady says I am...for last few years! Dave. On 30/04/2015 09:22, Olivia O'Dolan wrote: > Dave the road and area around Glengevlin and Dowra is both wild and > very historic. All around this area is steeped in history with > holywells and sweathouses ( same as modren day suana baths). Dave are > you located in Fermanagh or are you just on holiday?. I am in > Belcoo,my older sister Mairead knows a lot of local history, if you > are ever in Belcoo area call into Station House as my sister has > written a booklet about our local area. Thank you, Olivia O'Dolan. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com