OH they will be on/off ..on/off ..for trial runs and tweaking before launch just like Census and everyone will be posting that they are on line before they are!! Yes they will be busy and slow for a while... but at least they will be there and hopefully as an example to other religions to release theirs!! DH On 14/05/2015 21:45, Sally Factor wrote: > With so many people trying to access these records it amy take a while to > get onto them --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Which is why everyone needs to get the CORRECT Patrick and attach the correct records to the correct Patrick I have I feel posted the CORRECT records to your Patrick... dying 1919 Then you have a record for another one, so there are TWO. It is up to Baxter researchers to act responsibly and put correct records to the correct people and at least you have your tree PRIVATE so no harm done and that IS ACTING IN A RESPONSIBLE/SENSIBLE WAY. It is now up to you (and other Baxter researchers) to LOOK AND SEE if my findings are correct or not and accept them or refute them for themselves and even change their own findings if needed. If you look at the links I posted you will see if I'm correct or not. Then decide for yourself, and not because Dave said that was correct! I'm NOT saying I'm correct... THAT DECISION is up to you and other Baxter researchers! DH On 14/05/2015 19:08, Kathleen Baxter via wrote: > I am reeling in glorious information. I have so much to look at and sort > out and think about. Clearly some Baxter did marry a Catholic who > converted my line. I am going to print these all out and I thank you so > much. > I think I need to thank heaven I have that letter which helps sort it all > out. > You are a saint. This list is such a gift. > > Kathy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

PPS is his Social Security Number.. you won't know or need that! On what site did I find his death? On the site I posted .....with direct links to his death date and the other to the actual entry so you can look at them for yourself.... and other Baxters can look at the entry too!! DH On 14/05/2015 20:07, Kathleen Baxter wrote: > Dave I am filling out the form but have no idea where you found that > particular record. I am so sorry--I have had three long threads > lately on three completely different topics (one involves my newspaper > carrier with whom I had a long conversation the other day and I feel > he is being treated outrageously--as are the others who do the same > job) and I am utterly confused. > Where would I find the PPS certifcate? On what site did you find this? > As is disgustingly obvious, Irish genealogical sites are an explored > but not understood territory for me. > > Kathy > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Dave H via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > So the Patk of Drumliff who died 7 Aug 1919 isn't yours?? > > > Details > > > Deceased SurnameBaxter > Deceased ForenamePatrick > Primary Beneficiary/ExecutorJohn Baxter > Date of Death7 Aug 1919 > County of DeathFermanagh > > > On 13/05/2015 16:31, Kathleen Baxter via wrote: > > Patrick died December 1909 son John born in 1873. I believe > that he is the > > man who wrote the letter. > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > -- > Kathy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Oh she was the barmaid and yes I even got choc biccies with my coffee! ....and a free refill! (of coffee!) On 14/05/2015 18:09, Viola Wiggins wrote: > Oh Dave, > How terrible for you. Eyes popping, Heart racing and not a cuppa or chocolate biscuit in yer haun.! > Joking apart I am certain you forged a contact for the future and made her day. That is reward in it's self. > Well done. > Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Good to know there are 2 Patrick's so... Personally I believe it to be wrong Patrick as the one I posted was of Patk, of Drumliff, age 89 so yours can't be his father? Mine specifically names correct townland and John http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014922/005014922_00031.pdf PLUS http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1700512058 gives his Date of Death. Personally I'd only be 100% confident he's yours as I like to leave a margin for error. With everyone now knowing there are two helps as no one will accept a marriage etc the correct one!! Nothing wrong with that at all!! On 14/05/2015 16:31, Kathleen Baxter wrote: > This is what I have for Patrick death--I may have the wrong Patrick. > Name: Patrick Baxter > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909 > Death Age: 83 > Registration district: Lisnaskea > Volume: 3 > Page: 133 > FHL Film Number: 0101604 > > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Dave H via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > what they have put me through today! > > Thank you. > DH > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > -- > Kathy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Oh Dave, How terrible for you. Eyes popping, Heart racing and not a cuppa or chocolate biscuit in yer haun.! Joking apart I am certain you forged a contact for the future and made her day. That is reward in it's self. Well done. Viola Sent from my iPad > On 14 May 2015, at 16:24, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > what they have put me through today! > > Thank you. > DH > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I like the ones where letters were engraved backward.... an engraver who doesn't know which way the letter goes! ....and another that was engraved wrongly, quite recently! On 14/05/2015 16:59, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > Family names and spelling are so interesting! Like you, I look at the old headstones and the spellings and wonder who really IS related to whom. My Scottish family name is Campbell and we come from the area around Dingwall in Ross & Cromarty. But I am sure we took on the name of the clan way back when after the Campbells emerged victorious from the latest battle. Rather like converting to Protestantism or Catholicism to save being burnt to death. Maybe our original name was Ding or Wall. > > Val, who definitely DOES need her Diet Coke now and dog needs her prance around the park --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Good to know there are 2 Patrick's so... Personally I believe it to be wrong Patrick as the one I posted was of Patk, of Drumliff, age 89 so yours can't be his father? Mine specifically names correct townland and John http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014922/005014922_00031.pdf PLUS http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1700512058 gives his Date of Death. Personally I'd only be 100% confident he's yours as I like to leave a margin for error. With everyone now knowing there are two helps as no one will accept a marriage etc the correct one!! Nothing wrong with that at all!! On 14/05/2015 16:31, Kathleen Baxter wrote: > This is what I have for Patrick death--I may have the wrong Patrick. > Name: Patrick Baxter > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909 > Death Age: 83 > Registration district: Lisnaskea > Volume: 3 > Page: 133 > FHL Film Number: 0101604 > > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Dave H via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > what they have put me through today! > > Thank you. > DH > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > -- > Kathy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Vice versa Val. The place was named after them Magauran's town/Ballymagauran and they were there long before counties came into existence. Dave. enjoy your diet Coke!! On 14/05/2015 16:45, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > A lovely blonde eh DH?? Hmmm I am sorry but I will not weep into my Diet Coke for you. > > I wonder--do you think the McGovern family took their name from that area or vice versa? > > Val, who just transcribed a load of McGovern headstones--but they were in Sligo --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

With so many people trying to access these records it amy take a while to get onto them -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:57 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Fwd: Re: Google in differerent countries a lot of people are waiting on the RC records to be released in 4 weeks where you might find deaths for Patrick, Thomas and Robert DH On 12/05/2015 16:12, Kathleen Baxter wrote: > Though I had two years of high school Latin, I am not sure what the > Latin for Kathleen would be. I cannot compete in your league. > > My Baxter ancestors (yeah, I married a Harrison but did not change my > name...) were Catholic from County Fermanagh, and I know less about > them than any of my other ancestors and I say there ain't no justice. > Drumliff, Lisnaskea. > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Dave H via > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > > Well no point in making it too simple... > > Same goes for all religions at Colleges! > > Davidius > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Feel guilty?!? LOL You made my day, just for the chance to say "Man up Dave!!" On Thursday 14 May 2015 16:24:30 Dave H via wrote: > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > what they have put me through today! > > Thank you. > DH

Oh things have really gone bad!! I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about what they have put me through today! Thank you. DH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Dave I am filling out the form but have no idea where you found that particular record. I am so sorry--I have had three long threads lately on three completely different topics (one involves my newspaper carrier with whom I had a long conversation the other day and I feel he is being treated outrageously--as are the others who do the same job) and I am utterly confused. Where would I find the PPS certifcate? On what site did you find this? As is disgustingly obvious, Irish genealogical sites are an explored but not understood territory for me. Kathy On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > So the Patk of Drumliff who died 7 Aug 1919 isn't yours?? > > > Details > > > Deceased SurnameBaxter > Deceased ForenamePatrick > Primary Beneficiary/ExecutorJohn Baxter > Date of Death7 Aug 1919 > County of DeathFermanagh > > > On 13/05/2015 16:31, Kathleen Baxter via wrote: > > Patrick died December 1909 son John born in 1873. I believe that he is > the > > man who wrote the letter. > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy

I am a bit behind but here is the final set (this week) from George Armstrong. It is Grogey; Methodist Circuit Marriages 1868-1937. See it under May Additions http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Or go to Fermanagh in the Table and then Church Records to see all entries from George and other contributors. Thanks, Christina

I am reeling in glorious information. I have so much to look at and sort out and think about. Clearly some Baxter did marry a Catholic who converted my line. I am going to print these all out and I thank you so much. I think I need to thank heaven I have that letter which helps sort it all out. You are a saint. This list is such a gift. Kathy On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, The Wimbles via < fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Quite a few years ago a few BAXTER descendants (in USA & Australia) got > together & tried to sort out our BAXTER research information - (you > probably have) - Thomas BAXTER married Margaret HUGHES: sons - Robert b 27 > Jan 1964, Charles b 17 June 1865, Edward b23 Sept 1871 Brookeborough. > Patrick BAXTER married Elizabeth McBARRON - son Patrick b 21 Aug 1866, > Brookeborough. > > Some information from my Protestant BAXTERs (may help to eliminate 'your' > Charles) - Brooke Deeds D998/26/226 - 20 Dec 1803 - to James (aged 18, b > 1785) & Sarah (his mother?) BAXTER, 10 acres Cooneen for the lives of > Charles BAXTER (10yrs b 1793) & John BAXTER (4 yrs b 1799) - 2nd & 3rd son > of Sarah BAXTER. > > Brooke Deed D998/26/226 - to John BAXTER of Cooneen for lives of his 3 sons > James 13 b 1790, Charles 11 b 1792, George 9 b 1794. > > Other 'bits & pieces' found at PRONI - Aghalurcher Parish Records - to > Charles & Jane ? (surname unreadable) a daughter Eliza - 7 July 1833 > Cooneen; to Patrick & Jane BAXTER- James b 1779, Edward 1781, Mark 1792, > Liddle 1790/91, Phoebe 1794, Isabella Jane, Martha 1789/90, Elizabeth Ann. > > Burials - Patrick BAXTER Cooneen 14 Feb 1806; Charles BAXTER 16 Aug 1836 > Cooneen (aged 44, b 1792) > > Kinawley Parish Records - William BAXTER married Mary CARSON/CASSON - chn - > Elizabeth 1778; Edward 1781 > > Fivemiletown - James & Mary BAXTER - chn - Jane b 1814; William Charles > b1816; John Thomas b 1817; Elizabeth Anne b 1823; ? .ll Jane b 1827. > > >From all I have collected - a scenario I am working on - seven brothers? > BAXTER in & around Cooneen- William bc 1747; (Tattenabuddagh), George b > 1751 (Erdinagh); Patrick bc 1755; James bc 1763; John bc 1767; Robert bc > 1769 (married Jane SWINDELL?) ; Edward bc ?. .. & POSSIBLE descendants. > Barbara > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy

My parents, by the way, were in Northern Ireland looking for Baxters in the 1970s, but they found nothing. They did go to Drumliff, Lisnaskea. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Well before anyone adds someone.... Patk died 1919 and was age 89 (?)... > and the Will (as such) is Letter of Admin, his son John was on land aged > 60 something in 1930's (per letter!). > > so one has birth year for Patk who was the youngest... he had a brother > who died age 30, so wherever he fell in line among the sons one can > guesstimated his birth abd death ... another died age 28 (?) or whatever > so one can at least guesstimate the time line THEN go looking for them.... > > Patk who died in 1919 would be on both Census, what do they say? > Was wife alive on them? > Did they apply for Pension? > Patk died 1919, buried where? > Someone was over in 1970's talking to the Baxters... when did they buy > land? > Where is it? (to search Griffith's) > Who was Landlord? > > No point in us all redoing what has been done or should have been done > by now... > > Have the basics been done? > > > DH > > On 13/05/2015 01:07, Kathleen Baxter via wrote: > > Patrick BAXTER married Elizabeth McBARRON - son Patrick b 21 Aug 1866, > > >Brookeborough. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy

My Grandpa's cuson John was not the best at dates, in case you have not noticed... On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good to know there are 2 Patrick's so... > > Personally I believe it to be wrong Patrick as the one I posted was of > Patk, of Drumliff, age 89 so yours can't be his father? > > Mine specifically names correct townland and John > > > http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014922/005014922_00031.pdf > > PLUS > > http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1700512058 > gives his Date of Death. > > Personally I'd only be 100% confident he's yours as I like to leave a > margin for error. > > With everyone now knowing there are two helps as no one will accept a > marriage etc the correct one!! > > Nothing wrong with that at all!! > > > > On 14/05/2015 16:31, Kathleen Baxter wrote: > > This is what I have for Patrick death--I may have the wrong Patrick. > > Name: Patrick Baxter > > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 > > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909 > > Death Age: 83 > > Registration district: Lisnaskea > > Volume: 3 > > Page: 133 > > FHL Film Number: 0101604 > > > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Dave H via > > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com <mailto:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>> > wrote: > > > > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > > what they have put me through today! > > > > Thank you. > > DH > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > ================================== > > > > https://www.google.ie/ > > ================================== > > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > > <mailto:FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kathy > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy

This is what I have for Patrick death--I may have the wrong Patrick. Name:Patrick BaxterEstimated Birth Year:abt 1826Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1909Death Age:83Registration district:LisnaskeaVolume:3Page:133FHL Film Number:0101604 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Oh things have really gone bad!! > > I had to spend over half an hour in Ballinamore talking to a lovely > blonde girl about Ballymagauran and all because of people on FG!!! > > > Most definitely it is pronounced Ballymagovern regardless of how the > spelling goes... I trust someone on FG will feel really guilty about > what they have put me through today! > > Thank you. > DH > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy

I just did a quick search on Griffith's... Archdall comes as you know at The Rower Parish ..if you then load the map and watch as it's loading you'll see The Rower... and that is where Bruckana is located extremely close! You could post on the Kilkenny board... extremely busy with 57 posts for last year ...and no posts since November! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KILKENNY?m=r&s=Redisplay DH On 14/05/2015 01:09, Linda Ford wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I had just found Bruckana, too, by searching on that site you gave > me. Sure sounds close, doesn't it? I've written to my cousin who is > more directly descended from Archdall Burtchaell and Maria Doyle, for > his opinion. He's been to Kilkenny and Carlow and tramped all over > the area and made many contacts. I'm quite excited about this. > > Having never been to Ireland myself, I have no idea about why Wells > would have only on townland. > > Thanks again for all your assistance. > > Linda > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

They may not have been there as heads of households!! As far as I know... the Doyles were a Wicklow tribe and some Burtchaells were in Wicklow.. don't the Bryns comes into the equation too and they were Wicklow tribe. DH On 14/05/2015 03:26, Linda Ford via wrote: > Well, Dave, I don't see any Doyles or Burtchaells on Griffiths or the Tithe Applotments Books for Bruckana. Is that a clear indication they weren't there? Nor did I find any Doyles in Brandondale, although of course the Burtchaells are there. > > Linda Ford > Griffith's Valuation --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com