Hooray for YOU! How wonderful! Kathy Baxter On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Viola Wiggins via < fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Some of you will remember William [Liam Scott] searching for his Roots in > Fermanagh and I took it off list because I needed to speak of his living > relatives. > Well this evening at about 18.10 hrs i had a phone call from his second > cousin asking me to meet them. > Yes they are 2nd cousins and Liam and his son and his 2nd cousin and his > wife met for a Cup of Tea at Carry Bridge this evening. > Annother Fer-golder united with lost family. > Huurrraahhhhh! > Viola > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathy
Well I hope they got choc biccies!! :-)) Indeed with living relations always good to go off-list unless they post for themselves!! A lot do connect via FG, many one never hears from again so good to see a result mentioned/posted! DH On 26/05/2015 00:06, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > Some of you will remember William [Liam Scott] searching for his Roots in Fermanagh and I took it off list because I needed to speak of his living relatives. > Well this evening at about 18.10 hrs i had a phone call from his second cousin asking me to meet them. > Yes they are 2nd cousins and Liam and his son and his 2nd cousin and his wife met for a Cup of Tea at Carry Bridge this evening. > Annother Fer-golder united with lost family. > Huurrraahhhhh! > Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Some of you will remember William [Liam Scott] searching for his Roots in Fermanagh and I took it off list because I needed to speak of his living relatives. Well this evening at about 18.10 hrs i had a phone call from his second cousin asking me to meet them. Yes they are 2nd cousins and Liam and his son and his 2nd cousin and his wife met for a Cup of Tea at Carry Bridge this evening. Annother Fer-golder united with lost family. Huurrraahhhhh! Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
That's wonderful Vi! Chris On May 25, 2015 7:08 PM, "Viola Wiggins via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Some of you will remember William [Liam Scott] searching for his Roots in > Fermanagh and I took it off list because I needed to speak of his living > relatives. > Well this evening at about 18.10 hrs i had a phone call from his second > cousin asking me to meet them. > Yes they are 2nd cousins and Liam and his son and his 2nd cousin and his > wife met for a Cup of Tea at Carry Bridge this evening. > Annother Fer-golder united with lost family. > Huurrraahhhhh! > Viola > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Goodness, yours did get about, Val, Mine generally lived in the one spot but surely loved visiting rellies all over the place. Then owned horses so transport was not an issue; travelled all the way to Derrygonnelly for church rather than Toura which is just up the road. Can't imagine it was the Priest which drew them, rather the fine roast dinner with the Sandhill and Tully rellies. Dee. -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Ackroyd [mailto:johal521@me.com] Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 10:28 AM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton., and Border hopping. Absolutely Dee. My ggf John Reilly was born in Drumrush/Drumgoon, Cavan but somehow he met Mary Ellen Gilleece from Aughyoule Fermanagh and they married in Knockninny, Fermanagh. But then they returned to Cavan where they remained. Maybe. Val
Dee, Tell me just a bit about your Tully rellies. I have a friend, Bill Tully, who would love to find where his came from but we just can't seem to track them down. Thanks, Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Dee Byster-Graham via < fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Goodness, yours did get about, Val, > Mine generally lived in the one spot but surely loved visiting rellies all > over the place. > Then owned horses so transport was not an issue; travelled all the way to > Derrygonnelly for church rather than Toura which is just up the road. > Can't imagine it was the Priest which drew them, rather the fine roast > dinner with the Sandhill and Tully rellies. > > Dee. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valerie Ackroyd [mailto:johal521@me.com] > Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 10:28 AM > To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton., and Border hopping. > > Absolutely Dee. My ggf John Reilly was born in Drumrush/Drumgoon, Cavan but > somehow he met Mary Ellen Gilleece from Aughyoule Fermanagh and they > married > in Knockninny, Fermanagh. But then they returned to Cavan where they > remained. Maybe. > > Val > > > > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Wonder if this rings any bells?My son-in-law, William Terry Armstrong's 3xg gm Margaret Armstrong,born 1793 ,a widow aged c41, came to Ontario Canada in 1834 with 2 sons.James bc 1817 and William bc 1824. (From Fermanagh).They came first to Vaughan, near Toronto and then to Elgin Township.There were other Armstrongs in both areas.Last week I found a transcription of her tombstone, died aged 85, Dec 27,1876. Widow of William!! Church of England (usually means they were C/Iat home)..I believe I should be looking for a William who died before 1834 andpossibly other children, as there is an unusual space between the sons..If James is the eldest, then possibly grandfather was James,Do you know if there have been any DNA studies to narrow down the search? Joan
Must be 1821 going by the years of birth of the list of people -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Viola Wiggins via Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 9:19 a.m. To: Stephen Maguire; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Andrew Maguire Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. Viola >I got some interesting hits on Findmyroots today in the 1921 Irish census. > > You may recall one ancestor I am tracing Andrew Maguire was born Abt > 1818, who came to Boston with his wife Rebecca ( b Abt 1822) in 1850. > It is the baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to > Manorhamilton. For other reasons I think the family had links to the > counties Fermanagh and/or Cavan. The three households below seem the > most likely. In America and Canada the names Frances, John, Andrew, > and James associated with later descendants. This gives Family # 3 an edge possibly. > > Hopefully the border incursion can be excused. > > 1921 #1 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Andrew Maguire = birth 1776 > Anne Maguire = birth 1781 > Thomas = birth 1808 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1813 > Phillip Maguire = birth 1816 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1819 > Catherine Maguire = birth 1806 > > 1921 # 2 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Patrick Maguire = birth 1754 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1801 > Bartie Maguire = birth 1807 > Patrick Maguire = birth 1811 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1813 or 1821 ( possible transcription error > says birth 1813, but Looks more like 0 years old, not 8. Though age > may fit better with family as 1813) Ally Maguire = birth 1815 Mary > Maguire = birth 1803 > > 1921 #3 > Townland = Drumarkey > Parish = Derryvullan > County = Fermanagh > John Maguire = birth 1774 > Susan Maguire = birth 1784 > Thomas Maguire = birth 1806 > James Maguire = birth 1810 > William Maguire = birth 1814 > Frances Maguire birth 1819 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1820 > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The present incumbent is son or grandson of Basil, probably the latter - has second wife, but only children to first so no court battles later for ownership etc. He seemed a nice gentle chap - and they both determined to make the place pay for itself, trying innovative ideas to raise cash so they can continue to occupy the family seat. Beautiful countryside round about. -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins [mailto:viola.wiggins@tesco.net] Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2015 8:33 PM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo Colebrooke was the seat of the Brooke family. Sir Basil Brooke, who was Prime Minister of N Ireland, was a most genuine, kind and considerate Gentleman. Respected by all. During my time in the Telephone Exchange in Enniskillen, [1950 to 1955] before direct dialling, there would usually be a delay of half an hour or so at busy times. Sir Basil usually booked his own calls personally. He was entitled to "Priority" but he would let us know if his call was not urgent and that he was prepared to take his turn in the queue.
Hello Margaret, I believe you are correct, and hoping Dianne is reading the list this morning as she is trying to get back further in the line. How is your own research going? Dee. -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Barnes [mailto:barnes.margaret@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 8:00 AM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo I am guessing that Diana is chasing James (Bedad) Armstrong who came to Australia in 1839. He was the brother of my ggg grandfather Christopher Armstrong. There would be many postings including lots of discussion about the family in the Archives of Fermanagh Gold. Margaret in Oz.
I am guessing that Diana is chasing James (Bedad) Armstrong who came to Australia in 1839. He was the brother of my ggg grandfather Christopher Armstrong. There would be many postings including lots of discussion about the family in the Archives of Fermanagh Gold. Margaret in Oz.
Jerry, when I saw the subject “Transportation question”, I thought it would be about your convict rellies being transported! :-} David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: jfallis820 via Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:39 PM To: fermanagh-gold Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question Hello, I'm making a trip to Ireland in mid June. I'll be with a tour group with a two night stop over in Dunegal. I'm not sure if I can break away from the group but if I can, I was wondering if there is any local transportation available from Dunegal to Enniskillen. Just a one day trip out and back. Any thoughts on this? Jerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Well I've asked 3 times if it was Cloonclare Parish or Cloonclare Church so didn't even spot that... On 24/05/2015 22:18, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. > You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. > Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. Viola >I got some interesting hits on Findmyroots today in the 1921 Irish census. > > You may recall one ancestor I am tracing Andrew Maguire was born Abt 1818, > who came to Boston with his wife Rebecca ( b Abt 1822) in 1850. It is the > baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. For other > reasons I think the family had links to the counties Fermanagh and/or > Cavan. The three households below seem the most likely. In America and > Canada the names Frances, John, Andrew, and James associated with later > descendants. This gives Family # 3 an edge possibly. > > Hopefully the border incursion can be excused. > > 1921 #1 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Andrew Maguire = birth 1776 > Anne Maguire = birth 1781 > Thomas = birth 1808 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1813 > Phillip Maguire = birth 1816 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1819 > Catherine Maguire = birth 1806 > > 1921 # 2 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Patrick Maguire = birth 1754 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1801 > Bartie Maguire = birth 1807 > Patrick Maguire = birth 1811 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1813 or 1821 ( possible transcription error says > birth 1813, but Looks more like 0 years old, not 8. Though age may fit > better with family as 1813) > Ally Maguire = birth 1815 > Mary Maguire = birth 1803 > > 1921 #3 > Townland = Drumarkey > Parish = Derryvullan > County = Fermanagh > John Maguire = birth 1774 > Susan Maguire = birth 1784 > Thomas Maguire = birth 1806 > James Maguire = birth 1810 > William Maguire = birth 1814 > Frances Maguire birth 1819 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1820 > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Are they in Cloonclare Church?? or Cloonclare Parish?? On 24/05/2015 21:29, Stephen Maguire via wrote: > It is the baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Many thanks to Viola and Clive for their very interesting replies. It was much appreciated. Regards Kerrie -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins [mailto:viola.wiggins@tesco.net] Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2015 6:58 PM To: Kerrie Alexander; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land Kerrie The usual term used is "Lot" or "Plot" in Griffith's Valuation. Those could consist of Fields in Farmland. In the Griffith's Maps each field is marked and numbered and it's measurement and value is noted. "House Offices and Land" means A dwelling with outhouse[s] and land measured in Acres, Roods and Perches/Poles.[a. r. p.] 1 perch/pole = 5.5 yards. "House and Garden" means a house with a small area of land for a garden usually noted as Roods and perches/poles. [r. p. ] Annual Rateable Valuation [ARV] of Buildings are costed on their own and will give an indication of their size.They range from 5 Shillings [5s od] to 4 pounds [£4 0s 0p] Hope that helps Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Those with class are gracious. Those who demand class are not. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:32 PM To: Dee Byster-Graham ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo Colebrooke was the seat of the Brooke family. Sir Basil Brooke, who was Prime Minister of N Ireland, was a most genuine, kind and considerate Gentleman. Respected by all. During my time in the Telephone Exchange in Enniskillen, [1950 to 1955] before direct dialling, there would usually be a delay of half an hour or so at busy times. Sir Basil usually booked his own calls personally. He was entitled to "Priority" but he would let us know if his call was not urgent and that he was prepared to take his turn in the queue. On the other hand----- We also had a retired Major who always demanded Priority that he was not entitled to, so when informed that we did not have authority to provide him with that service, he would demand to be put through to our supervisor "at once"!!. Sometimes he succeeded but mostly not. I've known girls almost in tears dealing with him. But we had to grin and bear it.!!! A most unpleasant man who thought he could browbeat us, mere telephonists, into submission. Viola ribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It was 1821. Typo. My ancestors left in 1850. Sorry. Stephen J. Maguire Send from A Mobile Device > On May 24, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Viola Wiggins <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> wrote: > > Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. > You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. > Viola > > >> I got some interesting hits on Findmyroots today in the 1921 Irish census. >> >> You may recall one ancestor I am tracing Andrew Maguire was born Abt 1818, who came to Boston with his wife Rebecca ( b Abt 1822) in 1850. It is the baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. For other reasons I think the family had links to the counties Fermanagh and/or Cavan. The three households below seem the most likely. In America and Canada the names Frances, John, Andrew, and James associated with later descendants. This gives Family # 3 an edge possibly. >> >> Hopefully the border incursion can be excused. >> >> 1921 #1 >> Townland = Lanthadrangh >> Parish = Crosserlough >> County = Cavan >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1776 >> Anne Maguire = birth 1781 >> Thomas = birth 1808 >> Daniel Maguire = birth 1813 >> Phillip Maguire = birth 1816 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1819 >> Catherine Maguire = birth 1806 >> >> 1921 # 2 >> Townland = Lanthadrangh >> Parish = Crosserlough >> County = Cavan >> Patrick Maguire = birth 1754 >> Daniel Maguire = birth 1801 >> Bartie Maguire = birth 1807 >> Patrick Maguire = birth 1811 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1813 or 1821 ( possible transcription error says birth 1813, but Looks more like 0 years old, not 8. Though age may fit better with family as 1813) >> Ally Maguire = birth 1815 >> Mary Maguire = birth 1803 >> >> 1921 #3 >> Townland = Drumarkey >> Parish = Derryvullan >> County = Fermanagh >> John Maguire = birth 1774 >> Susan Maguire = birth 1784 >> Thomas Maguire = birth 1806 >> James Maguire = birth 1810 >> William Maguire = birth 1814 >> Frances Maguire birth 1819 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1820 >> >> Stephen J. Maguire >> Send from A Mobile Device >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com >
Definitely 1821 on the Fermanagh census . Saw that typo earlier and forgot to change it. Stephen J. Maguire Send from A Mobile Device > On May 24, 2015, at 6:00 PM, fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > When replying to a Digest change the subject line & delete most of the backquotes. > Supply *all* the information you can including Full Name, Religion, Dates > and Places. > * http://www.igp-web.com/fermanagh/Links.htm > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Armstrong of Pettigo (Dee Byster-Graham) > 2. Re: Armstrong of Pettigo (Viola Wiggins) > 3. Re: Armstrong of Pettigo (Ian Gammage) > 4. What to call land (Kerrie Alexander) > 5. Priority (Shirley Smith) > 6. Transportation question (jfallis820@comcast.net) > 7. Re: Transportation question (Dave H) > 8. Re: Transportation question (DSA2003) > 9. Re: Transportation question (Dave H) > 10. Divisions of Land in Ireland (Viola Wiggins) > 11. Andrew Maguire (Stephen Maguire) > 12. Re: Andrew Maguire (Dave H) > 13. Re: Andrew Maguire (Viola Wiggins) > 14. Re: Andrew Maguire (Dave H) > 15. Re: Armstrong of Pettigo (Margaret Barnes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 18:16:33 +1000 > From: "Dee Byster-Graham" <deebg@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > To: <Fermanagh-Gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001d095f9$f21b5fe0$d6521fa0$@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Diana, > > > > It was so kind of you to take the time to phone me and let me know that the > ABC TV program Country House Rescue this afternoon featured Colebrooke Park > estate in Fermanagh. > > Just had a quick peek and it is certainly a superb piece of real estate - > and naturally in our favourite Irish County :) > > I wish you every success with your ARMSTRONGS of Pettigo, google Ireland > has many articles which no doubt you already have and I am sure you have > searched all the cemeteries in the vicinity without success. > > > > Perhaps one of our wonderful members reading this will have a tiny piece to > help you with the puzzle, certainly Armstrong would be as difficult as my > Dolans are to find pre-1790's, but being a tailor in Pettigo in 1800 may > ring a bell with someone. Interestingly our Cassidy also tailored at that > same time in the town - it was a busy place especially being the 'staging > post' town to the famous pilgrimage site of St Patrick's Purgatory; can > believe there was quite a hum about the town in the summer months. Am > wondering if our friend Janet Cassidy has any data on a Pettigo tailor by > the name of Armstrong? > > > > Please be sure if I come across anything pertaining to your search I shall > contact you immediately. > > Thank you for your kindness and consideration, do keep in touch - either > privately or via Fermanagh Gold. > > > > Warmest regards, > > Dee. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:36 +0100 > From: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > To: "Dee Byster-Graham" <deebg@bigpond.net.au>, > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5C424191224F46B1801C18514882E3C2@HP93792624821> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Colebrooke was the seat of the Brooke family. > Sir Basil Brooke, who was Prime Minister of N Ireland, was a most genuine, > kind and considerate Gentleman. Respected by all. > During my time in the Telephone Exchange in Enniskillen, [1950 to 1955] > before direct dialling, there would usually be a delay of half an hour or > so at busy times. > Sir Basil usually booked his own calls personally. He was entitled to > "Priority" but he would let us know if his call was not urgent and that he > was prepared to take his turn in the queue. > > On the other hand----- We also had a retired Major who always demanded > Priority that he was not entitled to, so when informed that we did not have > authority to provide him with that service, he would demand to be put > through to our supervisor "at once"!!. > Sometimes he succeeded but mostly not. > I've known girls almost in tears dealing with him. But we had to grin and > bear it.!!! > A most unpleasant man who thought he could browbeat us, mere telephonists, > into submission. > > Viola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Byster-Graham via" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > To: <Fermanagh-Gold@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:16 AM > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > > >> Hello Diana, >> >> >> >> It was so kind of you to take the time to phone me and let me know that >> the >> ABC TV program Country House Rescue this afternoon featured Colebrooke >> Park >> estate in Fermanagh. >> >> Just had a quick peek and it is certainly a superb piece of real estate - >> and naturally in our favourite Irish County :) >> >> I wish you every success with your ARMSTRONGS of Pettigo, google Ireland >> has many articles which no doubt you already have and I am sure you have >> searched all the cemeteries in the vicinity without success. >> >> >> >> Perhaps one of our wonderful members reading this will have a tiny piece >> to >> help you with the puzzle, certainly Armstrong would be as difficult as my >> Dolans are to find pre-1790's, but being a tailor in Pettigo in 1800 may >> ring a bell with someone. Interestingly our Cassidy also tailored at that >> same time in the town - it was a busy place especially being the 'staging >> post' town to the famous pilgrimage site of St Patrick's Purgatory; can >> believe there was quite a hum about the town in the summer months. Am >> wondering if our friend Janet Cassidy has any data on a Pettigo tailor by >> the name of Armstrong? >> >> >> >> Please be sure if I come across anything pertaining to your search I shall >> contact you immediately. >> >> Thank you for your kindness and consideration, do keep in touch - either >> privately or via Fermanagh Gold. >> >> >> >> Warmest regards, >> >> Dee. >> >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 20:48:13 +1000 > From: "Ian Gammage" <iangammage@iinet.net.au> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > To: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net>, > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <153BBD25D21A448E8E888DEC5A212D55@Ian> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Those with class are gracious. Those who demand class are not. > > Cheers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Viola Wiggins via > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:32 PM > To: Dee Byster-Graham ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > > Colebrooke was the seat of the Brooke family. > Sir Basil Brooke, who was Prime Minister of N Ireland, was a most genuine, > kind and considerate Gentleman. Respected by all. > During my time in the Telephone Exchange in Enniskillen, [1950 to 1955] > before direct dialling, there would usually be a delay of half an hour or > so at busy times. > Sir Basil usually booked his own calls personally. He was entitled to > "Priority" but he would let us know if his call was not urgent and that he > was prepared to take his turn in the queue. > > On the other hand----- We also had a retired Major who always demanded > Priority that he was not entitled to, so when informed that we did not have > authority to provide him with that service, he would demand to be put > through to our supervisor "at once"!!. > Sometimes he succeeded but mostly not. > I've known girls almost in tears dealing with him. But we had to grin and > bear it.!!! > A most unpleasant man who thought he could browbeat us, mere telephonists, > into submission. > > Viola > > ribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 21:11:10 +1000 > From: "Kerrie Alexander" <kerriea@aapt.net.au> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land > To: <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001701d09612$5734cc00$059e6400$@net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Many thanks to Viola and Clive for their very interesting replies. It was > much appreciated. > > Regards > Kerrie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Viola Wiggins [mailto:viola.wiggins@tesco.net] > Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2015 6:58 PM > To: Kerrie Alexander; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD What to call land > > Kerrie > The usual term used is "Lot" or "Plot" in Griffith's Valuation. > Those could consist of Fields in Farmland. > In the Griffith's Maps each field is marked and numbered and it's > measurement and value is noted. > "House Offices and Land" means A dwelling with outhouse[s] and land measured > in Acres, Roods and Perches/Poles.[a. r. p.] 1 perch/pole = 5.5 yards. > "House and Garden" means a house with a small area of land for a garden > usually noted as Roods and perches/poles. [r. p. ] Annual Rateable Valuation > [ARV] of Buildings are costed on their own and will give an indication of > their size.They range from 5 Shillings [5s od] to > 4 pounds [?4 0s 0p] > Hope that helps > Viola > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 12:18:38 GMT > From: "Shirley Smith" <smith_shirley_ross@juno.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Priority > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20150524.081838.9494.1@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > When I was growing up, I was taught you can judge the quality of a person by how he/she treats those in positions who serve: maids, janitors, waiters, etc. If you are not kind to people less fortunate, you don't have much class or quality. My grandchildren object when I use the terms lady and gentleman, but when I was growing up, being a lady or a gentleman meant something, not necessarily connected with money. We didn't have a lot of money, but my parents expected me to act like a lady. Shirley > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Ian Gammage via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > To: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 20:48:13 +1000 > > Those with class are gracious. Those who demand class are not. > > Cheers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Viola Wiggins via > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:32 PM > To: Dee Byster-Graham ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > > Colebrooke was the seat of the Brooke family. > Sir Basil Brooke, who was Prime Minister of N Ireland, was a most genuine, > kind and considerate Gentleman. Respected by all. > During my time in the Telephone Exchange in Enniskillen, [1950 to 1955] > before direct dialling, there would usually be a delay of half an hour or > so at busy times. > Sir Basil usually booked his own calls personally. He was entitled to > "Priority" but he would let us know if his call was not urgent and that he > was prepared to take his turn in the queue. > > On the other hand----- We also had a retired Major who always demanded > Priority that he was not entitled to, so when informed that we did not have > authority to provide him with that service, he would demand to be put > through to our supervisor "at once"!!. > Sometimes he succeeded but mostly not. > I've known girls almost in tears dealing with him. But we had to grin and > bear it.!!! > A most unpleasant man who thought he could browbeat us, mere telephonists, > into submission. > > Viola > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:39:55 +0000 (UTC) > From: jfallis820@comcast.net > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question > To: fermanagh-gold <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1274822613.12649934.1432478395956.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Hello, I'm making a trip to Ireland in mid June. I'll be with a tour group with a two night stop over in Dunegal. I'm not sure if I can break away from the group but if I can, I was wondering if there is any local transportation available from Dunegal to Enniskillen. Just a one day trip out and back. Any thoughts on this? > Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: fermanagh-gold-request@rootsweb.com > To: "fermanagh-gold" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 3:00:06 AM > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 194 > > > > When replying to a Digest change the subject line & delete most of the backquotes. > Supply *all* the information you can including Full Name, Religion, Dates > and Places. > * http://www.igp-web.com/fermanagh/Links.htm > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FERMANAGH-GOLD list administrator, send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FERMANAGH-GOLD mailing list, send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 194 > *********************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:50:07 +0100 > From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5561E51F.6080906@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Try > > http://journeyplanner.buseireann.ie/jp/bin/ > > just put in Donegal to Enniskillen for whatever date... then check > return bus to Donegal. > > > > > > >> On 24/05/2015 15:39, jfallis820 via wrote: >> Hello, I'm making a trip to Ireland in mid June. I'll be with a tour group with a two night stop over in Dunegal. I'm not sure if I can break away from the group but if I can, I was wondering if there is any local transportation available from Dunegal to Enniskillen. Just a one day trip out and back. Any thoughts on this? >> Jerry > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 23:02:16 +0800 > From: "DSA2003" <dsa2003@iinet.net.au> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question > To: "jfallis820" <jfallis820@comcast.net>, > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F84ABCE5ECF14D0380352275FD796C93@DavidHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Jerry, when I saw the subject ?Transportation question?, I thought it would be about your convict rellies being transported! :-} > > David Armstrong > > Maylands > Western Australia > > From: jfallis820 via > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 10:39 PM > To: fermanagh-gold > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question > > > Hello, I'm making a trip to Ireland in mid June. I'll be with a tour group with a two night stop over in Dunegal. I'm not sure if I can break away from the group but if I can, I was wondering if there is any local transportation available from Dunegal to Enniskillen. Just a one day trip out and back. Any thoughts on this? > Jerry > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 16:24:24 +0100 > From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Transportation question > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5561ED28.5090300@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > He's just trying to find out which bus they took!! > > > >> On 24/05/2015 16:02, DSA2003 via wrote: >> Jerry, when I saw the subject ?Transportation question?, I thought it would be about your convict rellies being transported! :-} >> >> David Armstrong >> >> Maylands >> Western Australia > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:04:34 +0100 > From: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Divisions of Land in Ireland > To: "Kerrie Alexander" <kerriea@aapt.net.au>, > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <11785632CB844CD9A6A7ED7DA4191845@HP93792624821> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Kerry, > That is how everyone can benefit from an itemised reply. > I know a lot of people get confused between Villages, Towns and Townlands. > Growing up I was told that if there was a Cathedral in a town it would be "A > Cathedral City" > Armagh was such an unofficial City [without Royal Warrant] until Queen > Elizabeth II bestowed the Royal Warrant on it not many years ago. > Enniskillen has two Cathedrals but is still a Town. > Towns/Villages are where houses are built together in rows to form streets > with shops and dwellings alongside each other only divided by a wall. > Townlands, the smallest division of land in Ireland, are divided by Rivers, > Roads or Hedges.. > Parishes are an Ecclesiastical collection of Townlands > Diocese are a Collection of Parishes in a number of Counties, adminsistered > by the Bishop from the See House of that Diocese. > Ireland has four Provinces, Ulster Munster Leinster and Connaght. > Ulster contains 9 counties:- Antrim, Armagh, Cavan, Donegal, Down, > Fermanagh, Londonderry, Tyrone and Monaghan > Munster = Clare, Cork, Kerry, Limerisk, Tipperary and Waterford. > Leinster = Carlow, Dublin, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Louth, Meath, > Offaly Westmeath Wexford and Wicklow. > Connaght/Connacht = Galway, Leitrim, Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo. > > Hope that helps > Viola > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 16:29:36 -0400 > From: Stephen Maguire <steve839@gmail.com> > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Andrew Maguire > To: "<fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F0BC2D92-956B-44C0-BFF7-77DEF48B3A18@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I got some interesting hits on Findmyroots today in the 1921 Irish census. > > You may recall one ancestor I am tracing Andrew Maguire was born Abt 1818, who came to Boston with his wife Rebecca ( b Abt 1822) in 1850. It is the baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. For other reasons I think the family had links to the counties Fermanagh and/or Cavan. The three households below seem the most likely. In America and Canada the names Frances, John, Andrew, and James associated with later descendants. This gives Family # 3 an edge possibly. > > Hopefully the border incursion can be excused. > > 1921 #1 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Andrew Maguire = birth 1776 > Anne Maguire = birth 1781 > Thomas = birth 1808 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1813 > Phillip Maguire = birth 1816 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1819 > Catherine Maguire = birth 1806 > > 1921 # 2 > Townland = Lanthadrangh > Parish = Crosserlough > County = Cavan > Patrick Maguire = birth 1754 > Daniel Maguire = birth 1801 > Bartie Maguire = birth 1807 > Patrick Maguire = birth 1811 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1813 or 1821 ( possible transcription error says birth 1813, but Looks more like 0 years old, not 8. Though age may fit better with family as 1813) > Ally Maguire = birth 1815 > Mary Maguire = birth 1803 > > 1921 #3 > Townland = Drumarkey > Parish = Derryvullan > County = Fermanagh > John Maguire = birth 1774 > Susan Maguire = birth 1784 > Thomas Maguire = birth 1806 > James Maguire = birth 1810 > William Maguire = birth 1814 > Frances Maguire birth 1819 > Andrew Maguire = birth 1820 > > Stephen J. Maguire > Send from A Mobile Device > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 21:37:16 +0100 > From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Andrew Maguire > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5562367C.2030709@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Are they in Cloonclare Church?? > > or > > Cloonclare Parish?? > > > > > > > >> On 24/05/2015 21:29, Stephen Maguire via wrote: >> It is the baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:18:58 +0100 > From: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Andrew Maguire > To: "Stephen Maguire" <steve839@gmail.com>, > <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <918CA372D86148C1AD452525CCB26BF9@HP93792624821> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. > You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. > Viola > > >> I got some interesting hits on Findmyroots today in the 1921 Irish census. >> >> You may recall one ancestor I am tracing Andrew Maguire was born Abt 1818, >> who came to Boston with his wife Rebecca ( b Abt 1822) in 1850. It is the >> baptism on his son Robert that in my only link to Manorhamilton. For other >> reasons I think the family had links to the counties Fermanagh and/or >> Cavan. The three households below seem the most likely. In America and >> Canada the names Frances, John, Andrew, and James associated with later >> descendants. This gives Family # 3 an edge possibly. >> >> Hopefully the border incursion can be excused. >> >> 1921 #1 >> Townland = Lanthadrangh >> Parish = Crosserlough >> County = Cavan >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1776 >> Anne Maguire = birth 1781 >> Thomas = birth 1808 >> Daniel Maguire = birth 1813 >> Phillip Maguire = birth 1816 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1819 >> Catherine Maguire = birth 1806 >> >> 1921 # 2 >> Townland = Lanthadrangh >> Parish = Crosserlough >> County = Cavan >> Patrick Maguire = birth 1754 >> Daniel Maguire = birth 1801 >> Bartie Maguire = birth 1807 >> Patrick Maguire = birth 1811 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1813 or 1821 ( possible transcription error says >> birth 1813, but Looks more like 0 years old, not 8. Though age may fit >> better with family as 1813) >> Ally Maguire = birth 1815 >> Mary Maguire = birth 1803 >> >> 1921 #3 >> Townland = Drumarkey >> Parish = Derryvullan >> County = Fermanagh >> John Maguire = birth 1774 >> Susan Maguire = birth 1784 >> Thomas Maguire = birth 1806 >> James Maguire = birth 1810 >> William Maguire = birth 1814 >> Frances Maguire birth 1819 >> Andrew Maguire = birth 1820 >> >> Stephen J. Maguire >> Send from A Mobile Device >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:38:11 +0100 > From: Dave H <hallmarkone@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Andrew Maguire > To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <556244C3.7040500@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Well I've asked 3 times if it was Cloonclare Parish or Cloonclare Church > so didn't even spot that... > > > >> On 24/05/2015 22:18, Viola Wiggins via wrote: >> Has the 1921 census been released? I don't think so. >> You certain it was not 1821? which it sounds like to me. >> Viola > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 08:00:20 +1000 > From: Margaret Barnes <barnes.margaret@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Armstrong of Pettigo > To: Dee Byster-Graham <deebg@bigpond.net.au>, > fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <2CC70043-98ED-4A92-8BDF-368BFC3C6A8C@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am guessing that Diana is chasing James (Bedad) Armstrong who came to Australia in 1839. He was the brother of my ggg grandfather Christopher Armstrong. There would be many postings including lots of discussion about the family in the Archives of Fermanagh Gold. > > Margaret in Oz. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FERMANAGH-GOLD list administrator, send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FERMANAGH-GOLD mailing list, send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 195 > ***********************************************
Hello Diana, It was so kind of you to take the time to phone me and let me know that the ABC TV program Country House Rescue this afternoon featured Colebrooke Park estate in Fermanagh. Just had a quick peek and it is certainly a superb piece of real estate - and naturally in our favourite Irish County :) I wish you every success with your ARMSTRONGS of Pettigo, google Ireland has many articles which no doubt you already have and I am sure you have searched all the cemeteries in the vicinity without success. Perhaps one of our wonderful members reading this will have a tiny piece to help you with the puzzle, certainly Armstrong would be as difficult as my Dolans are to find pre-1790's, but being a tailor in Pettigo in 1800 may ring a bell with someone. Interestingly our Cassidy also tailored at that same time in the town - it was a busy place especially being the 'staging post' town to the famous pilgrimage site of St Patrick's Purgatory; can believe there was quite a hum about the town in the summer months. Am wondering if our friend Janet Cassidy has any data on a Pettigo tailor by the name of Armstrong? Please be sure if I come across anything pertaining to your search I shall contact you immediately. Thank you for your kindness and consideration, do keep in touch - either privately or via Fermanagh Gold. Warmest regards, Dee.