While people are writing about familysearch.org, I want to add that I just attended a lecture explaining the new FamilyTree on familysearch.org. We were told this new FamilyTree contains the old Ancestral file, the old Pedigree Resource File, and the member submitted trees that were in the IGI. You don't have to be a Mormon to submit your tree. You just have to create an Account which is free and select a User name and password. You cannot make your tree private. What was interesting is that anybody can add to and change your tree after you submit it, but they cannot delete it. There is a place where anybody can add a comment. I know there was a tree containing my family that was incorrect many years ago. I am going to try to find it again in this new FamilyTree and correct the errors. Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: DSA2003 via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: "Viola Wiggins" <viola.wiggins@tesco.net>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Searching on Family Search (LDS) (was Alarming News) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:42:06 +0800 G’day Viola I agree with you how many websites are redesigned and “improved” but actually become more cumbersome. However in regard to the LDS Family Search site, I have to disagree with you a bit. While the home page search form does indeed give you a whole bundle of irrelevant results, to which you can then add filters, there is an alternative method of searching which will give you more specific results. By clicking on the world map on the home page, you can select the British Isles which will in turn allow you to select whether you want to search in Ireland, England etc. If you click on Ireland, you get this page: < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084 > Including the ‘general’ United Kingdom collections, there are 21 collections relevant to searching in Ireland. The search form on this page allows you to select exactly which collection you want to search - and you can confine your search to several simultaneous collections e.g. the five census collections listed for Ireland. It should also be remembered that the LDS is still actively photographing records of interest to us. These new collections are loaded onto the website unindexed so as to make them immediately available to us whereas previously we’d have to identify them in the catalogue and order a copy of the microfilm into our local LDS family history library. There are no collections for Ireland like this, but if you look at the page for England, you’ll see that there are a number of collections, in particular for Durham and Norfolk, which are not indexed. You will not get any results from these collections by using the search form, but you can download and view them page by page as if you were viewing a microfilm in a library. < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1986340 > One further thing, many of the collections which are listed as “indexed” are works in progress, and thus only partially indexed. For this this reason, I regularly check the “browse all published collections” by clicking on the “last updated” link which sorts the list from alphabetical order into date order. (Last night there were six updates, including a new unindexed collection). Regards David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:31 AM To: Ulster Ancestry ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Alarming News about Ancestry.com The LDS has gone from straight forward searching specifying the Country and County and even Parish to a Generalisation of every result other than the one we know was there a few years ago Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
BUSTARD, George, Esq., LL.B., formerly of Belleville, co. Donegal. Eldest son of Ebenezer Bustard, Esq., of Belleville, by Margaret, who d. 1915, only dau. of the late George Lynch, Esq., of Dunkineely, Co. Donegal; b. 1854. Educated at Trinity Coll., Dublin (B.A. and LL.B. 1878); called to the Bar at King's Inns, Dublin, 1880. — Mytilene, AilesburY Road, Merrion, Dublin. On 27/05/2015 15:10, Shirley Smith via wrote: > I am starting to think of who was "around" my family members. e.g. my > Fermanagh grandfather Henry Bustard(1878-1963) must have had cousins nearby. > His grandfather William Ross died when he was seven. Did he know him very > well I wonder?. When he was ten his uncle Dr. William Ross died in Sligo. > Did he know him? Two years before that his eldest brother enlisted in the > Royal Irish Constabulary. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Thank you Dave. I am always interested in finding out about Bustards. Our family has never been able to connect with the Donegal Bustards. I have not yet had a match for y-dna from a Bustard or anyone else. One of my cousins tested. Anne in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Dave H via Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:35 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Family history One was made buy drinks as he was called to the Bar!! BUSTARD, George, Esq., LL.B., formerly of Belleville, co. Donegal. Eldest son of Ebenezer Bustard, Esq., of Belleville, by Margaret, who d. 1915, only dau. of the late George Lynch, Esq., of Dunkineely, Co. Donegal; b. 1854. Educated at Trinity Coll., Dublin (B.A. and LL.B. 1878); called to the Bar at King's Inns, Dublin, 1880. — Mytilene, AilesburY Road, Merrion, Dublin. On 27/05/2015 15:10, Shirley Smith via wrote: > I am starting to think of who was "around" my family members. e.g. my > Fermanagh grandfather Henry Bustard(1878-1963) must have had cousins > nearby. > His grandfather William Ross died when he was seven. Did he know him very > well I wonder?. When he was ten his uncle Dr. William Ross died in Sligo. > Did he know him? Two years before that his eldest brother enlisted in the > Royal Irish Constabulary. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
G’day Viola I agree with you how many websites are redesigned and “improved” but actually become more cumbersome. However in regard to the LDS Family Search site, I have to disagree with you a bit. While the home page search form does indeed give you a whole bundle of irrelevant results, to which you can then add filters, there is an alternative method of searching which will give you more specific results. By clicking on the world map on the home page, you can select the British Isles which will in turn allow you to select whether you want to search in Ireland, England etc. If you click on Ireland, you get this page: < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084 > Including the ‘general’ United Kingdom collections, there are 21 collections relevant to searching in Ireland. The search form on this page allows you to select exactly which collection you want to search - and you can confine your search to several simultaneous collections e.g. the five census collections listed for Ireland. It should also be remembered that the LDS is still actively photographing records of interest to us. These new collections are loaded onto the website unindexed so as to make them immediately available to us whereas previously we’d have to identify them in the catalogue and order a copy of the microfilm into our local LDS family history library. There are no collections for Ireland like this, but if you look at the page for England, you’ll see that there are a number of collections, in particular for Durham and Norfolk, which are not indexed. You will not get any results from these collections by using the search form, but you can download and view them page by page as if you were viewing a microfilm in a library. < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1986340 > One further thing, many of the collections which are listed as “indexed” are works in progress, and thus only partially indexed. For this this reason, I regularly check the “browse all published collections” by clicking on the “last updated” link which sorts the list from alphabetical order into date order. (Last night there were six updates, including a new unindexed collection). Regards David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia From: Viola Wiggins via Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:31 AM To: Ulster Ancestry ; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Alarming News about Ancestry.com The LDS has gone from straight forward searching specifying the Country and County and even Parish to a Generalisation of every result other than the one we know was there a few years ago Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Indeed that is the way to do it! One point, the Civil Registrations are NOT done by where people lived, they are done by the REGISTRY OFFICE used. Yesterday someone asked me about a Monaghan person.. their record does not mention Monaghan! It is there as Castleblaney, Ireland. Plus.. the people married end of 1877 BUT the REGISTRATION only took place Jan-March quarter of 1878 and the marriage is there under 1878. Similarly, a person living in West Fermanagh quite possibly registered at their nearest Registry Office so one has to look for them perhaps under Ballyshannon. My g/father married in Belfast, went that day to Kilkenny to start a new job, the marriage was registered in Co. Carlow (his nearest Reg Office)... So to use < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084 > one should just put a name in, plus a very short Year range with NO location and look through the results. A lot of mine in Co. Monaghan are to be found at Cootehill, Ireland as Cootehill in Co Cavan was their nearest Reg Office, so I put the name in and address as Cootehill, Ireland! Simple! :-)) If I'm not mistaken Butlersbridge in Co Cavan was a Reg Office for parts of Fermanagh too so one just uses Butlersbridge, Ireland as the location. Once found one orders the Cert which should have their details on it. DH On 28/05/2015 01:42, DSA2003 via wrote: > While the home page search form does indeed give you a whole bundle of irrelevant results, to which you can then add filters, there is an alternative method of searching which will give you more specific results. By clicking on the world map on the home page, you can select the British Isles which will in turn allow you to select whether you want to search in Ireland, England etc. If you click on Ireland, you get this page: > > < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084 > > > Including the ‘general’ United Kingdom collections, there are 21 collections relevant to searching in Ireland. The search form on this page allows you to select exactly which collection you want to search - and you can confine your search to several simultaneous collections e.g. the five census collections listed for Ireland. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Robert Thank you very much for alerting us all You always have all our interests at your heart. It makes me really angry when I learn of things like 'such and such' a website is coming up for sale. The LDS has gone from straight forward searching specifying the Country and County and even Parish to a Generalisation of every result other than the one we know was there a few years ago Even the Commonwealth War Graves Commission has changed supposedly 'for the better' So has Castle Garden and Ellis Island. One has to plough through hundreds of unconnected records to get to the entry that one needs. The New Company's website taking over is never as easily negotiated and usually costs a lot more to read the numerous results of a search only to find that it is the wrong one. GRRRRRR. A whole new learning curve with every change is in view. GBW the way things were before the freebie or cheapie became a Money maker for other Fat Cats. I wonder how much of the Information on Pay per View sites were innocently 'donated' by a researcher wishing to share their findings or entered onto a freebie Family History Programme. GRR again. Viola > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. > Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ > best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
You can transfer your DNA results to FTDNA. It has a much larger database so you can get more matches. See https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/imports/transfer-autosomal-ancestry/family-tree-dna-family-finder-transfer-program/ Bonnie On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > So.... what happens to all the DNA results?? > > > DH
Most genealogy programs can generate a file to do produce a family history. It may be a report called a "Modified Register"; it generates it's own index. In Ancestral Quest that I use, an rtf file is produced. If you write their stories in the notes section they will appear after the individual in the file. You can include the pictures in your program, bit I like to insert the pictures in the rtf file. Rtfs can be read by other word processing programs like .doc/.docx. Bonnie
Thanks Carole. I had seen this previously. I think it has taken the fancy of a few readers. He would be one of ours but not sure how close. We are in Canberra. Tonight the name of my uncle is to be projected onto the outer wall of the War Memorial. He was killed in W W1 aged 21. We are here to see it amongst other attractions. Margaret Sent from my iPad > On 27 May 2015, at 1:33 pm, CARELL via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I know this is not your Allingham Margaret, but it's > this interesting type of item, we would all like to be able > to add to our family history!! > Carole. > > Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne Packet 7 July 1842 : p.3. > Deaths - > On the 28th inst., in the Bow Island, near Pettigo, > Mr. George Allingham, sen., in the 100th years of his age. > He was the last of the old stock. > The united ages of his mother, grand-mother and great grand-mother, > exceeded three hundred years and adding this in a direct line, > their united ages exceeded four hundred. > He lived contemporary with his great-grandmother for nearly 20 years > and from her own lips received an account of the Seige of Derry, > in which memorable place she was one of the sufferers during the > entire seige.-- Ballyshannon Herald. > > > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
So.... what happens to all the DNA results?? DH On 27/05/2015 18:29, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > Hmmm.... The LDS Church signed an agreement with them last year that church members could have "free" membership and link their Ancestry files to Familysearch. Guess I have a lot of work ahead of me ensuring everything gets transferred! > > Val --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
True David. Friends of mine have just returned from a senior couples’ mission where they were microfilming old documents in Edinburgh. Seven hours a day, five days a week, painstakingly adjusting cameras, photographing, checking, etc. They don’t get paid a cent for this and in fact pay for the privilege. And work under the guidance of a government archivist who liaises with the LDS Church. As you say, the church has been doing this for years and years and it has always been free at Family History Centers. I remember spending Sunday nights at FHCs spinning through microfilms. Ordering them from Salt Lake City because I “thought” I might have found a match. Only to discover I hadn’t. I volunteer for indexing online for Family Search now in my home and sometimes it is way more difficult than transcribing headstones! I had to put a few batches back because I just couldn’t understand them. Val > On May 27, 2015, at 5:42 PM, DSA2003 via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > G’day Viola > > I agree with you how many websites are redesigned and “improved” but actually become more cumbersome. > > However in regard to the LDS Family Search site, I have to disagree with you a bit. While the home page search form does indeed give you a whole bundle of irrelevant results, to which you can then add filters, there is an alternative method of searching which will give you more specific results. By clicking on the world map on the home page, you can select the British Isles which will in turn allow you to select whether you want to search in Ireland, England etc. If you click on Ireland, you get this page: > > < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084 > > > Including the ‘general’ United Kingdom collections, there are 21 collections relevant to searching in Ireland. The search form on this page allows you to select exactly which collection you want to search - and you can confine your search to several simultaneous collections e.g. the five census collections listed for Ireland. > > It should also be remembered that the LDS is still actively photographing records of interest to us. These new collections are loaded onto the website unindexed so as to make them immediately available to us whereas previously we’d have to identify them in the catalogue and order a copy of the microfilm into our local LDS family history library. There are no collections for Ireland like this, but if you look at the page for England, you’ll see that there are a number of collections, in particular for Durham and Norfolk, which are not indexed. You will not get any results from these collections by using the search form, but you can download and view them page by page as if you were viewing a microfilm in a library. > > < https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1986340 > > > One further thing, many of the collections which are listed as “indexed” are works in progress, and thus only partially indexed. For this this reason, I regularly check the “browse all published collections” by clicking on the “last updated” link which sorts the list from alphabetical order into date order. (Last night there were six updates, including a new unindexed collection). > > Regards > > David Armstrong > > Maylands > Western Australia > >
It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ ******************************************* best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com
Hi, Ann in Ottawa, you make a very interesting point. I am trying to write a family history that includes family trees but also includes history, stories, photos, etc.. I found to my surprise that my Dad's father had an older brother whom we had never heard about. None of my cousins knew he existed. My grandfather lived in Canada, then in Massachusetts. The older brother lived in Canada, then moved to Rhode Island. So they were not very far apart. My grandfather did not drive a car, but any of his sons and he had six would have driven him to visit his brother. I don't think I will find out why they did not stay in contact. My grandfather often phoned his youngest brother who lived in California. And, he talked about his sisters who died when fairly young. So interesting! Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Anne Sterling via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> To: "CARELL" <carell@bigpond.com.au>, <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD George Allingham - Boa Island. Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:41:15 -0400 Hi, Thanks for posting this. Fascinating! I like the way of thinking expressed in the article. I want to write a biography of different ancestors and to put them in context. I am starting to think of who was "around" my family members. e.g. my Fermanagh grandfather Henry Bustard(1878-1963) must have had cousins nearby. His grandfather William Ross died when he was seven. Did he know him very well I wonder?. When he was ten his uncle Dr. William Ross died in Sligo. Did he know him? Two years before that his eldest brother enlisted in the Royal Irish Constabulary. Anne, pondering in hot humid Ottawa
I know this is not your Allingham Margaret, but it's this interesting type of item, we would all like to be able to add to our family history!! Carole. Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne Packet 7 July 1842 : p.3. Deaths - On the 28th inst., in the Bow Island, near Pettigo, Mr. George Allingham, sen., in the 100th years of his age. He was the last of the old stock. The united ages of his mother, grand-mother and great grand-mother, exceeded three hundred years and adding this in a direct line, their united ages exceeded four hundred. He lived contemporary with his great-grandmother for nearly 20 years and from her own lips received an account of the Seige of Derry, in which memorable place she was one of the sufferers during the entire seige.-- Ballyshannon Herald.
I am going to download those. The link that our other lister sent gave instructions on how to do it. I have them on another website too though. Val Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Dave H via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > So.... what happens to all the DNA results?? > > > DH > > > > >> On 27/05/2015 18:29, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: >> Hmmm.... The LDS Church signed an agreement with them last year that church members could have "free" membership and link their Ancestry files to Familysearch. Guess I have a lot of work ahead of me ensuring everything gets transferred! >> >> Val > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hmmm.... The LDS Church signed an agreement with them last year that church members could have "free" membership and link their Ancestry files to Familysearch. Guess I have a lot of work ahead of me ensuring everything gets transferred! Val Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Ulster Ancestry via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. > > > > > Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ > > ******************************************* > best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, Thanks for posting this. Fascinating! I like the way of thinking expressed in the article. I want to write a biography of different ancestors and to put them in context. I am starting to think of who was "around" my family members. e.g. my Fermanagh grandfather Henry Bustard(1878-1963) must have had cousins nearby. His grandfather William Ross died when he was seven. Did he know him very well I wonder?. When he was ten his uncle Dr. William Ross died in Sligo. Did he know him? Two years before that his eldest brother enlisted in the Royal Irish Constabulary. Anne, pondering in hot humid Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: CARELL via Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:33 PM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD George Allingham - Boa Island. I know this is not your Allingham Margaret, but it's this interesting type of item, we would all like to be able to add to our family history!! Carole. Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne Packet 7 July 1842 : p.3. Deaths - On the 28th inst., in the Bow Island, near Pettigo, Mr. George Allingham, sen., in the 100th years of his age. He was the last of the old stock. The united ages of his mother, grand-mother and great grand-mother, exceeded three hundred years and adding this in a direct line, their united ages exceeded four hundred. He lived contemporary with his great-grandmother for nearly 20 years and from her own lips received an account of the Seige of Derry, in which memorable place she was one of the sufferers during the entire seige.-- Ballyshannon Herald. ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Joan, I have passed your email along to Dianne - am certain she will be delighted. Kindly Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joan Atkinson via Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015 10:00 PM To: Dee Byster-Graham via Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Margaret and William Armstrong Wonder if this rings any bells?My son-in-law, William Terry Armstrong's 3xg gm Margaret Armstrong,born 1793 ,a widow aged c41, came to Ontario Canada in 1834 with 2 sons.James bc 1817 and William bc 1824. (From Fermanagh).They came first to Vaughan, near Toronto and then to Elgin Township.There were other Armstrongs in both areas.Last week I found a transcription of her tombstone, died aged 85, Dec 27,1876. Widow of William!! Church of England (usually means they were C/Iat home)..I believe I should be looking for a William who died before 1834 andpossibly other children, as there is an unusual space between the sons..If James is the eldest, then possibly grandfather was James,Do you know if there have been any DNA studies to narrow down the search? Joan ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The Ferret strikes again !!!! Well done. Ellen in Fl
Hello Marge, So sorry if I confused you, the Tully and Sandhill reference was about these two Townlands in Fermanagh where my lot lived. The SNOW family lived at Tully until mid 1990’s when the last member passed away, and the farm is now beautiful holiday cottages next door to Tully Castle on the hill overlooking Lough Erne. Often wonder what gg-grandfather James would think about the changes – the several stone out-buildings were converted into modern cottages and it’s a picture perfect location for tourism. But I think he probably would prefer his cows :) Hopefully one of our kind listers can help you friend Bill. After living in California all of her life, my niece and family are moving to the Adirondack Mountains shortly – next winter will be interesting for them! They say California becoming too dry – but, my goodness, all that snow!! Kind regards, Dee. From: Marge Rossini [mailto:eireannslass@dslextreme.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 6:03 AM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Visit to Manor Hamilton., and Border hopping. Dee, Tell me just a bit about your Tully rellies. I have a friend, Bill Tully, who would love to find where his came from but we just can't seem to track them down. Thanks, Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message