It was in Co. Longford.. On 21/06/2015 17:49, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > Dave, > > Do you have a townland and parish of your ancient cemetery? Id like to map it > on OSM. > > Clive --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

To all, I hereby give permission for the photographing of any of the grave stones in the RC cemeteries which have the remains of Bannons or Muldoon's. Walking is limited and any help for genealogical reasons is gratefully accepted. This may be the only way I can get church records. Any scandals do not bother me as I have had many on this side of the pond. Sally in CT -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jim dawe via Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:21 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 225 Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife's Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people "feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? Jim > Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but > other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help > someone else who may not be able to visit. > > Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards > and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge > that others need photos at that g/yard. > > Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's > one there! > > > Dave ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, Do you have a townland and parish of your ancient cemetery? Id like to map it on OSM. Clive On Sunday 21 Jun 2015 17:41:09 Dave H via wrote: > Bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted! > > Could have even asked on FG while in Ireland but a good example of why > someone should do their homework BEFORE leaving home. > > Recently I was asked about an ancient cemetery near to where I lived for > years... I had to look at maps on Google to try to find it even though > I'd passed it 100's of times and never knew there was a g/yard there! > > Mind you I photographed g/stones, and recently found descendants haven't > objected, in fact were delighted I had invaded their privacy and there > are no armed guards patrolling my property! > > DH

Bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted! Could have even asked on FG while in Ireland but a good example of why someone should do their homework BEFORE leaving home. Recently I was asked about an ancient cemetery near to where I lived for years... I had to look at maps on Google to try to find it even though I'd passed it 100's of times and never knew there was a g/yard there! Mind you I photographed g/stones, and recently found descendants haven't objected, in fact were delighted I had invaded their privacy and there are no armed guards patrolling my property! DH On 21/06/2015 17:22, Killyfole and District Development Association via wrote: > Jim, > > I think if I was travelling all that way, Id have "done my homework" and would > have arranged in advance a time to visit the genealogy office (basically to > allow them to prepare and compile information). Id also identify where the > farm and burial ground are before setting off!! > > Do you have any details as to where these ancient burial ground are located? > There is probably someone on the list who knows or could point you in the > right direction! All you have to do is ask. > > Clive --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Jim, I think if I was travelling all that way, Id have "done my homework" and would have arranged in advance a time to visit the genealogy office (basically to allow them to prepare and compile information). Id also identify where the farm and burial ground are before setting off!! Do you have any details as to where these ancient burial ground are located? There is probably someone on the list who knows or could point you in the right direction! All you have to do is ask. Clive On Sunday 21 Jun 2015 08:21:00 jim dawe via wrote: > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, > go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for > the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground > cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the > place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is > from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if > people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families > other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim

No different to looking at Church records Val, in fact they can be more "revealing" in family history with certainly "comments" in margins or even find out who "the father" was or wasn't, if any!! G/stones are only names/dates but Church Records can and are often far more "revealing" and intrusive!! DH On 21/06/2015 16:41, Valerie Ackroyd via wrote: > Jim, I would look at it a different way. As I transcribe headstones that were carved over a hundred years ago, weathered and worn, the grass before them withered, no votives in front of them, I type the words that are carved on there “Always remembered . . . forever in our hearts….” rather sadly. Because it seems that whoever first carved those words is now dust as well, perhaps below that tombstone, perhaps in some faraway land. Many of the tombstones also have plenty of blank space for where a spouse doubtless expected their names would be carved, but it is empty. What happened to those spouses? Did they go elsewhere, marry again or did the living simply not think it was worth getting the stone engraved??? So when I transcribe the headstones I say a little prayer that “I” remember them and perhaps some descendant will be searching online and see that headstone and remember them too. > > Val --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If I'm going to Clones Library or Sligo Genealogy Office I always check the opening times before I go.. even have to do that with my local Library so I know opening hours before I leave house. When looking for any farms etc of my kin I check Griffith's maps, then locate it on a map so I can find the way' IF I was to go to Teightunny Ancient Graveyard I'd find out before I left the house where it is.. in fact it's down the road to Power Station near where old railway crossed the road. Now if I'm passing I can find it. If you let me know the names of your kin and the g/yard I'll be certain not to photograph their g/stones to ensure their privacy! There is a policy with IGP, which I'm sure Chris can verify.... that is if someone objects to a g/stone being on IGP it will be removed. Would you be delighted if someone was to put up g/stones of your kin??? Or would you insist they were removed?? Absolutely no problem as all you have to do is request that no one takes photos of your kin's g/stones once they know where they are etc... Looking forward to you posting which g/stones you don't want photographed and where! DH ----------------------------------------------- On 21/06/2015 16:21, jim dawe via wrote: > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Jim, I would look at it a different way. As I transcribe headstones that were carved over a hundred years ago, weathered and worn, the grass before them withered, no votives in front of them, I type the words that are carved on there “Always remembered . . . forever in our hearts….” rather sadly. Because it seems that whoever first carved those words is now dust as well, perhaps below that tombstone, perhaps in some faraway land. Many of the tombstones also have plenty of blank space for where a spouse doubtless expected their names would be carved, but it is empty. What happened to those spouses? Did they go elsewhere, marry again or did the living simply not think it was worth getting the stone engraved??? So when I transcribe the headstones I say a little prayer that “I” remember them and perhaps some descendant will be searching online and see that headstone and remember them too. Val > On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:21 AM, jim dawe via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? > > Jim >

That was meant to be "mother lode"! On 20/06/2015 6:43 PM, Eilish via wrote: > Dee, you have definitely discovered a mode lode of family tree information! > > Eilish > > On 19/06/2015 10:22 AM, Dave H via wrote: >> Well it's what should be happening Dee. >> >> Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but >> other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help >> someone else who may not be able to visit. >> >> Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards >> and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge >> that others need photos at that g/yard. >> >> Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's >> one there! >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> On 19/06/2015 01:02, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: >>> Dave, >>> >>> Thank you so much for posting this great link. Beautiful old stones, many >>> still quite legible. >>> Also for singling out the LOVE gravestone for me - very much appreciated. >>> Grateful thanks also to John Cunningham for photographing the site, the >>> DOLAN stones are undoubtedly my family although just where they fit in the >>> tree remains to be sorted. >>> Can't begin to explain how profoundly awesome it is to view these old >>> graveyards and church ruins - all thanks to a handful of dedicated, kind >>> people! >>> >>> Dee. >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carl, Did you visit this graveyard on your grand tour??? Eilish On 20/06/2015 9:51 PM, Dave H via wrote: > Some VERY old ones there... thankfully there's a possibility that some > may be of benefit to someone here who has been looking for kin for > years, thankfully that guy took some photos of g/yards as often the > church records may not exist and g/stones are all the "records" that exist. > > The g/yard is actually in Co. Donegal but so near Fermanagh I reckon one > could stand in Fermanagh and throw a stone into it.. have passed there > many times, never knew there was a g/yard! > > DH > > > > > On 20/06/2015 12:13, Helene via wrote: >> What wonderful photos of the graveyard!!! >> >> >> >> None of my family but lovely to see the photos of the gravestones and the >> churchyard >> >> >> >> Helene > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is from south Kilkenny my wife’s Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if people “feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families other than their own when photographing headstones? Jim > Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but > other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help > someone else who may not be able to visit. > > Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards > and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge > that others need photos at that g/yard. > > Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's > one there! > > > Dave

Thank you Linda, I am having the same problem with ancestors coming into Philadelphia in the 1840's and not having any further information about them or where they departed from. My ancestor's surname is Ginn. There are Ginns to the north and south of the US with perhaps a connection to the Ginns in Indiana, otherwise none. My family went to Ontario Canada and the census there have immigration dates but I don't know if that is for Canada or to the US. Catheriine Message: 1Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:18:52 +0000 (UTC)From: Linda Foh <lindafoh@epix.net>Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD 1841 & 1851 Census.To: "fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com" <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: <1455371382.2480779.1434745132851.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Most of my immigrant ancestors came to Philadelphia in the late 1840s-50s. One gr-gr-grandmother was probably in her teens. When asked where in Ireland she was from, her answer was "If Ireland had been any good, I never would have left." In a later USA census she said she was born in Philadelphia. Understandable reaction - but doesn't help my research!Linda ____________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5585dc99cd355c9956e4st01duc

What wonderful photos of the graveyard!!! None of my family but lovely to see the photos of the gravestones and the churchyard Helene

Dee, you have definitely discovered a mode lode of family tree information! Eilish On 19/06/2015 10:22 AM, Dave H via wrote: > Well it's what should be happening Dee. > > Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but > other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help > someone else who may not be able to visit. > > Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards > and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge > that others need photos at that g/yard. > > Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's > one there! > > > Dave > > > > > On 19/06/2015 01:02, Dee Byster-Graham via wrote: >> Dave, >> >> Thank you so much for posting this great link. Beautiful old stones, many >> still quite legible. >> Also for singling out the LOVE gravestone for me - very much appreciated. >> Grateful thanks also to John Cunningham for photographing the site, the >> DOLAN stones are undoubtedly my family although just where they fit in the >> tree remains to be sorted. >> Can't begin to explain how profoundly awesome it is to view these old >> graveyards and church ruins - all thanks to a handful of dedicated, kind >> people! >> >> Dee. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

'Fraid not. That's about where I was putting the rear fender on our rental back together with zip ties. John Cunningham does nice work eh? I think he usually gets paid for stuff like this, so its pretty nice that he put it online for us. Cheers On 2015-06-20, at 3:25 PM, Eilish via wrote: > Hi Carl, > Did you visit this graveyard on your grand tour??? > > Eilish > > On 20/06/2015 9:51 PM, Dave H via wrote: >> Some VERY old ones there... thankfully there's a possibility that some >> may be of benefit to someone here who has been looking for kin for >> years, thankfully that guy took some photos of g/yards as often the >> church records may not exist and g/stones are all the "records" that exist. >> >> The g/yard is actually in Co. Donegal but so near Fermanagh I reckon one >> could stand in Fermanagh and throw a stone into it.. have passed there >> many times, never knew there was a g/yard! >> >> DH >> >>

Some VERY old ones there... thankfully there's a possibility that some may be of benefit to someone here who has been looking for kin for years, thankfully that guy took some photos of g/yards as often the church records may not exist and g/stones are all the "records" that exist. The g/yard is actually in Co. Donegal but so near Fermanagh I reckon one could stand in Fermanagh and throw a stone into it.. have passed there many times, never knew there was a g/yard! DH On 20/06/2015 12:13, Helene via wrote: > What wonderful photos of the graveyard!!! > > > > None of my family but lovely to see the photos of the gravestones and the > churchyard > > > > Helene --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Teightunny is about a mile from Belleek on the side of the Erne and beside the hydro-electric station there. There was a church here long ago. It is on the right of the roadway from Belleek to Ballyshannon down the roadway leading to the power station. Teightunny is spelt Tetunny on the 6inch scale map of the area. Close to where the old railway line crossed the river are Tetunny Burial Ground and Tetunny (holy) well. DH >> >> On 19/06/2015 10:22 AM, Dave H via wrote: >>> Well it's what should be happening Dee. >>> >>> Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG >>> but >>> other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help >>> someone else who may not be able to visit. >>> >>> Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards >>> and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge >>> that others need photos at that g/yard. >>> >>> Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's >>> one there! >>> >>> >>> Dave > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I tend to agree Eilish... while I wouldn't know Dee's tree all that well the g/stone certainly is "interesting".... There is a nice "unit" of names on the g/stone which makes them easier to identify, rather than individual church records too. When RC records are released there is now a location to look at local Parish records. DH On 20/06/2015 09:43, Eilish wrote: > Dee, you have definitely discovered a mode lode of family tree > information! > > Eilish > > On 19/06/2015 10:22 AM, Dave H via wrote: >> Well it's what should be happening Dee. >> >> Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but >> other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help >> someone else who may not be able to visit. >> >> Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards >> and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge >> that others need photos at that g/yard. >> >> Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's >> one there! >> >> >> Dave --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Most of my immigrant ancestors came to Philadelphia in the late 1840s-50s. One gr-gr-grandmother was probably in her teens. When asked where in Ireland she was from, her answer was "If Ireland had been any good, I never would have left." In a later USA census she said she was born in Philadelphia. Understandable reaction - but doesn't help my research! Linda Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:12:53 +0100 From: Killyfole and District Development Association     <gold@fermanaghroots.com> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD 1841 & 1851 Census. Yes, the effect of the famine was dramatic and affected almost everyone.  It is a subject a lot of the surviving people would not talk about. 

Dave, Thank you so much for posting this great link. Beautiful old stones, many still quite legible. Also for singling out the LOVE gravestone for me - very much appreciated. Grateful thanks also to John Cunningham for photographing the site, the DOLAN stones are undoubtedly my family although just where they fit in the tree remains to be sorted. Can't begin to explain how profoundly awesome it is to view these old graveyards and church ruins - all thanks to a handful of dedicated, kind people! Dee. -----Original Message----- From: fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave H via Sent: Friday, 19 June 2015 2:51 AM To: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD TEIGHTUNNY BELEEK G/yard and others... Just came across this site https://plus.google.com/photos/102092340271323288163/albums/5416249088548324 529?banner=pwa with some VERY old g/stones which might be of interest... I see a LOVE and DOLAN, ELLIOTT amongst them Plus at end of slide show some interesting photos of places!! DH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ================================== https://www.google.ie/ ================================== http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message