The man should have done it himself and not have to be told. That's disgraceful. Good on you , Vi. Gravestones are more than memory, they are history. Eilish On 22/06/2015 9:48 PM, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > I do hope some person transcribed the stones before they were used for paths where footfall wears away the writing more quickly than acid rain. Those stones are usually Sandstone. > I saw an example of this vandalism, to my mind, in Keighley, Yorks and spoke to the Minister in charge, who promised to have the Girl Guides and Boy Scouts transcribe what was readable on the stones. I do not know if he kept his promise or not. > Viola > > >> The park in Mary St in Dublin is an old cemetery, they just laid the >> g/stones down for paths... >> > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I suspect we would all wish to avoid at all costs any well that turns hair gray overnight. Kathleen Baxter On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Killyfole and District Development Association via <fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Main one is St Patricks Holy well, over by Belcoo which you know about. > > There is one on Devenish Island and also in the townland of Ballycassidy > called St Molaises Well. > > There is one by the RC Chapel in Kinawley (townland of Lismonaghan) which > is a > holy well named after St Nawley. > > There is a spa well in Crevinish which I’m not sure is holy, but there are > old > burial grounds there and ruins of an old castle. > > There is legend of a Holy well on Galloon Island which turns ones hair grey > over night. However, I don’t know the location. > > There is a well in Braade, apparently very ancient with some interesting > legends, again, not sure if its Holy! > > Derrylester - Another spa well with healing powers > > All I can think of at the moment. > > > > On Monday 22 Jun 2015 10:21:34 caiside via wrote: > > >> Hi Fermanagh Golders, > > >> > > >> I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone > > >> help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. > > >> There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. > > >> > > >> Any others? > > >> > > >> I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one > > >> goes there any longer. > > >> > > >> Thanks for any help. > > >> Janet C. > > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Kathy

Re Holy Wells Hi Janet, I have some lovely photos of St. Patrick's Well near Belcoo if you are interested. Happy to share. Bridgid > >> On 22/06/2015 15:21, caiside via wrote: >> Hi Fermanagh Golders, >> >> I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone >> help? > > End of FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 229 > ***********************************************

Sorry Janet, Have our Janet's mixed up - got all fired up at Dave's mention of Dolans. :) Kindly, Dee. -----Original Message----- From: Janet Morgan [mailto:jmorgan441@aol.com] Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 10:49 PM To: Dee Byster-Graham; fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Photographing headstones Wrong Janet. Morgan here and my family is McDonnell and Maguire. Janet Morgan Sent from my iPhone

Main one is St Patricks Holy well, over by Belcoo which you know about. There is one on Devenish Island and also in the townland of Ballycassidy called St Molaises Well. There is one by the RC Chapel in Kinawley (townland of Lismonaghan) which is a holy well named after St Nawley. There is a spa well in Crevinish which I’m not sure is holy, but there are old burial grounds there and ruins of an old castle. There is legend of a Holy well on Galloon Island which turns ones hair grey over night. However, I don’t know the location. There is a well in Braade, apparently very ancient with some interesting legends, again, not sure if its Holy! Derrylester - Another spa well with healing powers All I can think of at the moment. > > On Monday 22 Jun 2015 10:21:34 caiside via wrote: > >> Hi Fermanagh Golders, > >> > >> I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone > >> help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. > >> There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. > >> > >> Any others? > >> > >> I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one > >> goes there any longer. > >> > >> Thanks for any help. > >> Janet C.

Would there be anyone on the list who would volunteer their time to transcribe the population figures for townlands in Fermanagh? I know this is a massive under-taking, but the results of the project should be very interesting. We should be able to show the data in some very nice ways. Please email me directly if you are interested. Clive

Ha! next time you are having a cup of coffee in the Curraghmore area and you have your camera with you, and shoot at a McHugh/Corrigan/Sweeney grave, please let me know so I can ask you to go back and remove the potted jonquils and get me a great shot! Good on you! Eilish On 22/06/2015 8:09 PM, Dave H via wrote: > Reckon they weren't shrinking Violets anyway!! :-)) > > Indeed, even if one got a partial photo they can then ask someone for a > better photo! It's the knowing that's important, you'd be delighted if > someone photographed one of yours even if it was obscured as it can then > be photographed by someone as you know where it exists! > > Recently I was looking up stuff for Manorhamilton 1820 death.. I have > g/stone photographed but the stone isn't all that legible, the person > who I was helping now knows exactly where to go, that a g/stone exists > plus the 2 other Cemeteries to go to incl one in Sligo when she visits > next year. She has been searching for over 12 years and now has photos > from IGP.... > > IF she wasn't visiting I'd get full transcription etc next time I'm > passing... as we know there's g/stones! > > DH > > > > On 22/06/2015 10:48, Eilish wrote: >> If only I knew one existed (sigh). I know they are buried somewhere >> but suspect they do not have a stone. However......I'd hate to think >> they are hiding behind the hydrangeas all this time. I have several >> cousins who would be out with the shears! > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Id be very interested in this list when you are finished. Is that possible? On Monday 22 Jun 2015 10:21:34 caiside via wrote: > Hi Fermanagh Golders, > > I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone > help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. > There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. > > Any others? > > I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one > goes there any longer. > > Thanks for any help. > Janet C.

If only I knew one existed (sigh). I know they are buried somewhere but suspect they do not have a stone. However......I'd hate to think they are hiding behind the hydrangeas all this time. I have several cousins who would be out with the shears! On 22/06/2015 7:15 PM, Dave H via wrote: > Well I don't go out to photograph g/stones, normally stop for a coffee > somewhere and walk around while drinking it with camera just snapping away. > > IF one was yours then you know a g/stone exists and it's just a matter > of requesting a better photo by someone plus they are protected > structures under various Monument Acts and Bye-Laws. > > DH > > > > On 22/06/2015 09:39, Eilish wrote: >> Hi Dave and All, >> When transcribing, I do find it really frustrating to carefully take >> down the birth dates and place of residence of the deceased on a >> headstone only to find the death date is obscured by a bunch of >> plastic geraniums! >> >> If someone finds my McHughs and Corrigans, in the lower lough erne >> area, please move the %$#@ flowers, take the photo, and put them back. >> It's a shame to lose this vital information, which may well be the >> only source of info due to lack of records, just because of a flippin' >> hydrangea. >> >> To me, there is respect, then there is pragmatism. They don't have to >> be mutually exclusive. So, like Sally, I'm giving permission to "shift >> the flowers". >> >> Eilish > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ok! I'll put you on my "help" list. A local would probably recognize the name whereas we who have wandered to other lands......well it's all strange to me and it's a shame to let things pass when they could so easily be recognised by a local. Thanks Dave! Eilish On 22/06/2015 7:31 PM, Dave H via wrote: > That's no problem... Chris sends me one or two every now and then > regardless of county. Aren't we all supposed to be working together > anyway on FG? > > It might be Fermanagh but every now and then you get someone asking > about Carlow or Kilkenny, for example, Why? Because there's no one in > those counties replying! These are tolerated because they are short and > sweet! > > FG works because of what it is!! > > DH > > On 22/06/2015 10:08, Eilish via wrote: >> Hi Fgolders, >> >> Often when I do transcribing, I come across a name of a place associated >> with the deceased. >> So something like: JAMES O'REILLY | Kilfeernan | Died blah , blah. >> >> Because I'm not a local, sometimes this place name goes recorded as "??" >> if it is not clearly visible and obvious. I'm wondering if anyone would >> volunteer to be a place name finder, given that the cemetery location is >> known and the place name can't be too far away. The person could be a >> resource for those transcribing so that all the facts get put down, not >> just parts of it. >> >> It is not a big job, and you may only get called on once or twice a >> month, but if there are any takers, this would be an asset to the whole >> IGP database. Get it right first time! >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Eilish > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Fgolders, Often when I do transcribing, I come across a name of a place associated with the deceased. So something like: JAMES O'REILLY | Kilfeernan | Died blah , blah. Because I'm not a local, sometimes this place name goes recorded as "??" if it is not clearly visible and obvious. I'm wondering if anyone would volunteer to be a place name finder, given that the cemetery location is known and the place name can't be too far away. The person could be a resource for those transcribing so that all the facts get put down, not just parts of it. It is not a big job, and you may only get called on once or twice a month, but if there are any takers, this would be an asset to the whole IGP database. Get it right first time! Just a thought. Eilish

Well you only had 2 0r 3... :-)) Not sure either if they are complete. DH On 22/06/2015 18:47, caiside@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks, Dave, I did do that (always my first avenue of research), but > I am not at all sure these lists are complete, and thought I'd ask the > Fermanagh experts. :-) > > Janet C --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Dave and All, When transcribing, I do find it really frustrating to carefully take down the birth dates and place of residence of the deceased on a headstone only to find the death date is obscured by a bunch of plastic geraniums! If someone finds my McHughs and Corrigans, in the lower lough erne area, please move the %$#@ flowers, take the photo, and put them back. It's a shame to lose this vital information, which may well be the only source of info due to lack of records, just because of a flippin' hydrangea. To me, there is respect, then there is pragmatism. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. So, like Sally, I'm giving permission to "shift the flowers". Eilish On 22/06/2015 9:33 AM, Dave H via wrote: > One doesn't need permission Sally to photograph memorials or write down > what is on them provided the place is open to the public... one can not > enter a Cemetery if it is locked.. this includes even a chain across the > entrance BUT if there is a stile/set of steps on wall, not closed, even > by a Public notice, one can enter as that access has not "been denied"... > > It is only out of respect that a gravestone would be removed from the > likes of IGP... not obligation! > > IGP has a very high set of standards when it comes to photographing > g/stones, which is why one often gets details hidden by a bunch of > flowers... the flowers aren't even removed temporarily to facilitate > photographing!! > > Often, when photographing g/stones, I come across those that have been > "cleaned" by descendants doing their research and have insisted that any > of these be marked "as found" by Christine or else not be put up on IGP... > > There are a few photos "of my lot" on IGP, not taken by me, I do not > have the right to ask for their removal if I wanted, as I'm not a DIRECT > descendant.. NOR do I have the right to remove a plant or bunch of > flowers to photograph it better!! > > What is needed is for more people to HELP EACH OTHER where possible by > taking some photos when visiting any g/yard, any religion, any county > simply to reduce the vacuum!! > > On another county I've seen someone post and post and post and post > looking for stuff.. then go to g/yard and take 3 or 4 photos of their > lot, while those helping were crying out for photos at that Cemetery... > NOW IF THAT IS NOT SELFISH I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!!!!!!!!!! > > Fine by me but I know where those folk went and HELL WILL FREEZE OVER > before I post a reply :-)) > > > DH > No need for everyone to post permission, as it is not needed!! > > > > > > > On 21/06/2015 23:11, Sally Factor via wrote: >> To all, I hereby give permission for the photographing of any of the grave >> stones in the RC cemeteries which have the remains of Bannons or Muldoon's. >> Walking is limited and any help for genealogical reasons is gratefully >> accepted. >> This may be the only way I can get church records. >> Any scandals do not bother me as I have had many on this side of the pond. >> Sally in CT >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:fermanagh-gold-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jim dawe via >> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:21 AM >> To:fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Digest, Vol 10, Issue 225 >> >> Dave, then there are those that travel all the way to Fermanagh from Canada, >> go to Enniskillen genealogy office on the closed day, then go looking for >> the family farm, cannot find it, try to find the ancient burial ground >> cannot find it but do find the nicest people and drink in the beauty of the >> place. I am speaking for myself and experience last fall. My family is >> from south Kilkenny my wife's Stevensons from Fermanagh. I am wondering if >> people "feel" as I do that they are invading the privacy of the families >> other than their own when photographing headstones? >> >> Jim >> >>>> Am often amazed at the number of people seeking help, not just on FG but >>>> other counties, then visit g/yards and take no photos that might help >>>> someone else who may not be able to visit. >>>> >>>> Have seen others who post and post, get great help, then go to g/yards >>>> and take 2 or 3 photos of their folk and post them. in full knowledge >>>> that others need photos at that g/yard. >>>> >>>> Pity that Snow g/stone isn't legible enough.... Anyway you know there's >>>> one there! >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Images https://www.google.ie/search?q=The+holy+wells+of+Co+Fermanagh&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=50CIVZGdN8riUe6EgLAO&ved=0CD8Q7Ak&biw=1366&bih=630 On 22/06/2015 15:21, caiside via wrote: > Hi Fermanagh Golders, > > I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone > help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. > There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. > > Any others? > > I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one > goes there any longer. > > Thanks for any help. > Janet C. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Google them https://www.google.ie/search?q=The+holy+wells+of+Co+Fermanagh&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5kCIVcPiI4HjU5Ppu0A DH On 22/06/2015 15:21, caiside via wrote: > Hi Fermanagh Golders, > > I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone > help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. > There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. > > Any others? > > I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one > goes there any longer. > > Thanks for any help. > Janet C. > ================================== > > https://www.google.ie/ > ================================== > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If I get anywhere with it. Do you have a name? Janet C. On 6/22/15 3:03 PM, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > Id be very interested in this list when you are finished. Is that possible? > > On Monday 22 Jun 2015 10:21:34 caiside via wrote: >> Hi Fermanagh Golders, >> >> I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone >> help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. >> There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. >> >> Any others? >> >> I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one >> goes there any longer. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> Janet C. > >

Thanks, Dave, I did do that (always my first avenue of research), but I am not at all sure these lists are complete, and thought I'd ask the Fermanagh experts. :-) Janet C On 6/22/15 1:08 PM, Dave H wrote: > Google them > > https://www.google.ie/search?q=The+holy+wells+of+Co+Fermanagh&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5kCIVcPiI4HjU5Ppu0A > > > > DH > > > > > On 22/06/2015 15:21, caiside via wrote: >> Hi Fermanagh Golders, >> >> I am trying to compile a list of holy wells in Fermanagh. Can anyone >> help? I do know of the one at Templerushin near Belcoo. >> There is also St. Faber's Well and bullaun stone in Boho. >> >> Any others? >> >> I'm interested in all, even if they have fallen into disuse and no one >> goes there any longer. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> Janet C. >> ================================== >> >> https://www.google.ie/ >> ================================== >> http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FERMANAGH-GOLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >

Ahhh... they pulled them up again and stacked them! http://www.ucd.ie/archaeology/documentstore/hc_reports/lod/St_Marys_Park_Final.pdf Here they are.. http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dublin/stmary%27s06.html DH On 22/06/2015 13:22, Dave H wrote: > Very doubtful and they weren't even put down face down! > > DH > > On 22/06/2015 12:48, Viola Wiggins via wrote: >> I do hope some person transcribed the stones before they were used >> for paths where footfall wears away the writing more quickly than >> acid rain. Those stones are usually Sandstone. >> I saw an example of this vandalism, to my mind, in Keighley, Yorks >> and spoke to the Minister in charge, who promised to have the Girl >> Guides and Boy Scouts transcribe what was readable on the stones. I >> do not know if he kept his promise or not. >> Viola > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Very doubtful and they weren't even put down face down! DH On 22/06/2015 12:48, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > I do hope some person transcribed the stones before they were used for paths where footfall wears away the writing more quickly than acid rain. Those stones are usually Sandstone. > I saw an example of this vandalism, to my mind, in Keighley, Yorks and spoke to the Minister in charge, who promised to have the Girl Guides and Boy Scouts transcribe what was readable on the stones. I do not know if he kept his promise or not. > Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus