Shirley, I really do not know. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:58:44 PM | Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Archived messages Missing in Action | Hi, Marge, So how long does it take until an Archived message is searchable? Do | we know? Shirley | ---------- Original Message ---------- | From: "Dave H. via" <[email protected]> | To: Marge in SoCal <[email protected]>, fermanagh-gold | <[email protected]> | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action | Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 21:58:57 +0000 | Yes the ones I sent just now are in Archive already but ones sent a few | days ago are not. | Dave | On 19/03/2016 21:54, Marge in SoCal wrote: | > Dave and All, | > It takes awhile for messages to show up in the archives. When I was | > checking the archives to see when folks posted last (back in Jan) 2015 | > messages were not showing up! They would show up on Google | > though!!!! If you go to the specific month, it will show up but the | > search function will not bring it up. Here is the link in the archives | > to the message that I am responding to: | > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03/1458423632 | > Go figure | > Slán, | > Marge in Southern California | > Searching: | > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut | > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut | > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut | > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | > *From: *"fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | > *To: *"Eilish" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" | > <[email protected]> | > *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:40:32 PM | > *Subject: *Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action | > Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! | > Dave | > On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: | > > Hi Dave, | > > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through | > > over here. | > > Eilish | > > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: | > >> It might be just my youth BUT.... | > >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it | > went live | > >> again?? | > --- | > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. | > https://www.avast.com/antivirus | > ========================= | > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' | > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | --- | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. | https://www.avast.com/antivirus | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Alicia, Thank you for telling us about that! I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is even better listening to your stories than reading them. Luv, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:01:52 PM | Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Fwd: Fermanagh Matters 49 - Irish TV viola (Alicia) in | person |> This is an earlier programme about the Florencecourt/Killesher area | > http://www.irishtv.ie/fermanagh-matters-49 | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It might be just my youth BUT.... Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it went live again?? The Archive is here.. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03?m=t&n=y&d=y&s=Redisplay --------------------------------------- I sent this... (missing from Archive!) Subject Ancestry has Free access to Irish records for March! Now that FG is up and running,, Ancestry has Free access to Irish records for March! http://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/free-irish-records?o_iid=70156&o_lid=70156&o_sch=Internal+List So no need for any queries/posts to FG until April!! DH ===================================== and I sent this... (missing from Archive!) Subject Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Ancestry has Free access to Irish records for March! Just using Ancestry brought me to this... http://man-fe.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?ct=facet&fctN=facet_jtitle&fctV=Clogher+Record&rfnGrp=1&rfnGrpCounter=1&frbg=&indx=1&fn=search&dscnt=0&scp.scps=scope%3A%2844MAN%29%2Cprimo_central_multiple_fe&tb=t&vid=MU_VU1&mode=Basic&ct=Next%20Page&srt=lso01&tab=local&dum=true&vl%28freeText0%29=Fermanagh&dstmp=1458058611230 which gets one Clogher Record online... ------------------------------------ even though they went out in Digest! DH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Usually appear within minutes. Have checked when having problems. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Marge in SoCal via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Shirley, > I really do not know. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare > > | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> > | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> > | Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:58:44 PM > | Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Archived messages Missing in Action > > | Hi, Marge, So how long does it take until an Archived message is searchable? Do > | we know? Shirley > > | ---------- Original Message ---------- > | From: "Dave H. via" <[email protected]> > | To: Marge in SoCal <[email protected]>, fermanagh-gold > | <[email protected]> > | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action > | Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 21:58:57 +0000 > > | Yes the ones I sent just now are in Archive already but ones sent a few > | days ago are not. > > | Dave > > | On 19/03/2016 21:54, Marge in SoCal wrote: > | > Dave and All, > > | > It takes awhile for messages to show up in the archives. When I was > | > checking the archives to see when folks posted last (back in Jan) 2015 > | > messages were not showing up! They would show up on Google > | > though!!!! If you go to the specific month, it will show up but the > | > search function will not bring it up. Here is the link in the archives > | > to the message that I am responding to: > > | > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03/1458423632 > > | > Go figure > > | > Slán, > | > Marge in Southern California > > | > Searching: > | > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > | > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > | > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut > | > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare > > | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > | > *From: *"fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> > | > *To: *"Eilish" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" > | > <[email protected]> > | > *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:40:32 PM > | > *Subject: *Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action > > | > Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! > > > | > Dave > > > > > | > On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: > | > > Hi Dave, > | > > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through > | > > over here. > > | > > Eilish > > | > > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: > | > >> It might be just my youth BUT.... > > | > >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it > | > went live > | > >> again?? > > > > | > --- > | > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > | > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > | > ========================= > | > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > | > ------------------------------- > | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > | > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > | > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > | --- > | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > | https://www.avast.com/antivirus > | ========================= > | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > | quotes in the subject and the body of the message > | ========================= > | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > | quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks for sharing this. Great stories Viola :) Bonnie On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Viola Wiggins via < [email protected]> wrote: > > > This is an earlier programme about the Florencecourt/Killesher area > http://www.irishtv.ie/fermanagh-matters-49 >
Dave and All, It takes awhile for messages to show up in the archives. When I was checking the archives to see when folks posted last (back in Jan) 2015 messages were not showing up! They would show up on Google though!!!! If you go to the specific month, it will show up but the search function will not bring it up. Here is the link in the archives to the message that I am responding to: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03/1458423632 Go figure Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "Eilish" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" | <[email protected]> | Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:40:32 PM | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action | Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! | Dave | On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: | > Hi Dave, | > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through | > over here. | > Eilish | > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: | >> It might be just my youth BUT.... | >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it went live | >> again?? | --- | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. | https://www.avast.com/antivirus | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message
James, During the dis-established years, for the legality of marriages had to take place in the Anglican Church. All be it Some Methodists had dispensation. But others had not. Remember Gypsies married By jumping over a broomstick giving rise to the saying " Living over the brush!" That is why Romany records are so hard to trace. Viola
Many of us are unable to find records of marriages, even though we sometimes may have good information on the names of the married couples and the approximate years of their marriages. I have noticed in the Clones Parish Register that a good number of the marrying individuals were non RC. So if one was looking for the marriage of anyone of them in a non RC church register, one would be out of luck. Here is and example of a few of such marriages that I’ve come across in the Clones Parish (RC) register. In most of the cases below, the bride was non RC : 1822 James Boylan and Anne Johnson 1822 Michael Rogers and Elisabeth Eccles 1824 Edward Doonan, soldier, Sarah Morrison 1824 Edward Beggan, soldier, Elisabeth Wilson 1834 Joseph Cooper and Elisabeth Eccles (alias Rogers) 1834 Ebinezer Stinson (Drummully) and Elisabeth Martin (Stinson non RC, Elisabeth RC and they were related) 1836 Andrew Fee and Martha McDowell 1838 Irwin Armstrong and Jane Elliott (both were non RC) 1838 James Howell, Anglican, soldier 16th regiment of foot, and Isabelle Cosgrove 1842 John Hamil and Mary Ann Beatty Similarly there must have been RCs who married in non RC churches, and I’m wondering if similar notes were recorded for those marriages? Does anyone know the answer to this question? After a certain point in one’s research, I’m thinking it may be fruitful to look wider afield and not be too restricted to the usual formula we tend to use. Also, I thought this below might be of interest. Here are two examples of the Marriage Register being used for other purposes. £8 and £9 would have been a sizable amount in those days! James ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Clones Marriage Register (Page) 60 8 May 1856 I James McQuillan of Clinmaulin in the parish of NewtownButler do yield & give possession of my pew in the chapel of Clones to Doctor Rily of Clones for which he has paid me the sum of nine pounds sterling. James McQuillan present Rev’d James Smyth John Collins his x mark -------------------------------------------------------- (Page) 74 N.B. November 22 - 1858 James McPhillips of Cara Street purchased and paid Mrs. Catherine Cassady of three pound hill eight pounds sterling for her pew in Clones chapel in the presence of John Collins. James Smyth
test On 18/03/2016 9:36 PM, JM POOLE via wrote: > > >
I watched the Genealogy section of this link, and my first thought was for you, Carl! Having said that, I am stuck with my McHughs at a wall bigger than China's, and watching Frank, a McHugh himself, talk so convincingly about the help that was available, made me think that maybe after 15+ years of being on this site that some McHugh relative will join before I pass on and meet my ancestors over the rainbow and find out who everyone was anyway!!! Eilish McHUGH! On 17/03/2016 11:39 PM, [email protected] via wrote: > There was a nice interview with Frank at the Fermanagh Genealogy Centre on > Irish TV. > > You can watch it here - http://www.irishtv.ie/fermanagh-matters-77 > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Coming through loud and clear Vi Sent from my iPad > On 18 Mar 2016, at 11:05, Eilish via <[email protected]> wrote: > > test > >> On 18/03/2016 9:36 PM, JM POOLE via wrote: > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
| From: "cowan4356" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:27:36 AM | Subject: PRONI Ref T2832/3 - 13 December 1801 Lease - Col. Mervyn Archdale to | John & Archibald Graham [Rossacrin], also to Francis Moffet and John Graham and | Thomas Cowan | I am researching my step fathers relatives, the Cowan family, who were leased | land by the Archdales in the Clonkeen/Glenkeen townland in Fermanagh and moved | there from Rossmore in about 1750. | Proni have given me permission to publish my transcript of an indenture between | the Archdales and Grahams. I acknowledge the Deputy Keeper of the Records, | Public Record Office of Northern Ireland and a citation of the catalogue | reference number (T2832/3). | Notes in square brackets are mine as I went through the indenture. The last few | lines were very difficult to read. Here are a few additional notes regarding | this transcript : | · Demise = transfer of lease | · [Grahams] = John Graham Archibald Graham William Graham Thomas Graham and | Thomas Graham | · Mesne = intermediate or intervening | · Interesting old legal terms : without the let sail hindrance, enter and | distrain, distress or distresses | Interestingly, this indenture mentions Thomas Cowan son to Robert Cowan, however | another one of the panels associated with this PRONI record (T2832/1) has (upon | my interpretation) the following text : | Memo that the Life of Thomas Graham aged 18? years son of John Graham of | Rossachrin as ? in heirs of the life of Thomas Cowan deceased & I have set the | fine being two pounds five shillings lives ? Moffets past? of Rossachrin ? | ... 1707 M Archdall | and | That the life of Thomas Cowan son of David Cowan now of Clonkeen ? in the Manor | Archdale?? in ? ? in place of William? Moffitt | Tenth 10th day of November 17? Written by me N? Archdall | Note : the second lot of writing on this page (which is in the lower right hand | corner) is in different writing to that in the top right. If the lower was | written by N Archdale, then it had to have been before 1763 as he died in that | year. | TEXT OF INDENTURE (PRONI REF T2832/3): | THIS INDENTURE made the thirteenth day of December in the year of our Lord One | Thousand Eight hundred and one BETWEEN Colonel Mervyn Archdall the elder of | Castle Archdall in the county of Fermanagh and Mervyn Archdall the younger | Eldest Son and Heir Apparent of the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder now | Lieutenant Colonel in his Majesties twelfth or prince of Wales's xxxxxx | Regiment of Light Dragoons of the one part and John Graham Archibald Graham | both of Rossacrin [Rossachrin] in the County of Fermanagh William Graham of | Drumaul and Thomas Graham of Rossacrin both in said county and Thomas Graham of | Glasagh [Glassmullagh?] in the County of Tyrone, Farmer xxxxxx of the other | part WHEREAS by Indenture of Lease dated the first day of May one thousand and | six hundred and ninety nine [ 1/5/1699 ] made between William Archdall then of | Castle Archdall aforesaid Esquire of the one part and Francis Moffet and John | Graham then both of Rossacrin aforesaid Yeoman of the other part Whereby the | said William Archdall did demise and let unto the said Francis Moffet and John | Graham ALL that? the town and lands of Rossacrin Glanson and Rossmackasarbud | ?being part of Ballymackataggart? or by whatever name or names they were known | or called by then in the opinion? of the said Francis Moffet and John Graham | Situate in the Barony of Lurg and County of Fermanagh together with the Great | and Small Tythes thereunto belonging with their? Appurtenances (Except as in | said case to? excepted) TO HOLD to the said Francis Moffet and John Graham | their Heirs and Assigns from thenceforth for and during the life and lives of | William Moffett Son to the said Francis Moffet Thomas Cowan son to Robert Cowan | and Thomas Graham Eldest son of the said John Graham and of the longest lives | of them and for and during the Natural life and lives of all such other person | and persons as should from time to time forever thereafter be added to the time | and term of said lease by virtue of the Covenant for perpetual renewal herein | contained At the yearly rent of five? pounds Sterling? beside? duties and half | a years rent as a fine for the renewal on the fall of each life as by the said | recited lease may more fully appear AND WHEREAS the said Francis Moffet and | John Graham the two original lessees in said recited lease are long since dead | and the said [Grahams] parties hereto are now by Mesne Assignments or otherwise | become legally intitled [sic] to the One full half of the said lands of | Rossacrin and by the said recited lease demised and granted xxxxxx AND WHEREAS | by Articles of Agreement dated the sixteenth day of December one thousand Eight | hundred [16/12/1800] made between the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder of the one | part and the said [Grahams] xxxxxx of the other part they the said [Grahams] | xxxxxx did thereby agree with the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder to Exchange | that portion of the said lands of Rossacrin Glanson and Rossmackasarbud being | part of Ballymackatagart to which they were so as aforesaid intitled [sic] for | an equitable proportion of the lands of Drumhan? [Drummacahan in the parish of | Drumkeeran in the barony of Lurg?]in the Barony of Glenavely? in said County | such proportions to be ascertained by the Award and Determination of John Frith | and James Frith both of Crosstane? Simon Armstrong of Morsbane? William Acheson | of Kesh or Kasesagh? and Christopher Humphrys Junior all in said county | Gentlemen and that the ? said? persons or the Major part of them should be | final and conclusive to all the parties and that upon such award being | published proper deeds should be made out conformable thereto AND WHEREAS the | said Arbitrators? on the twenty third day of December One thousand eight | hundred [23/12/1800] duly made and publised [sic, published?] their Award under | their hands and Seals respectively Whereby they did Award that the said? Mervyn | Archdall the Elder should give unto the said [Grahams] Thirty eight acres of | the said lands of Drumkeen with One Acre and a half of the Old Bog next | adjoining the said thirty eight Acres together also with One Acre and a half of | Bog in Oakfield across the head? next adjoining James Montgomerys Park part? of | any trespass [sic] the same to be in full satisfaction and exchange for thirty | five Acres one Rood and twelve perches and also three Acres two Roods and Nine | perches of Bog which the Grahams were to give the said Mervyn Archdall in the | said lands of Rossacrin by the said Articles and Award may more fully appear | NOW THIS xxxxxx INDENTURE WITNESSETH that the said Mervyn Archdale the Elder by | and with the consent and approbation of the said Mervyn Archdall the younger | testified by his being a party hereto and by his signing and Sealing the same | and in order to carry the said agreement and the terms of the said Award into | specifick [sic] execution and also in pursuance of the Surrender of the | Original lease of the said lands of Rossacrin by them the said [Grahams] and | all title and Interest which they had therein under the said Original recited | lease or otherwise to the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and for and in | consideration of the yearly rent fine for renewal Covenants and agreements | therein after mentioned they the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn | Archdall the younger HAVE Demised Granted Set and to farm let and by these | presents? DO Demise Grant Set and to farm let unto the said [Grahams] (in their | actual possession now being by virtue of a Bargain and Sale to them thereof | made by the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the younger for | the term of One whole year by Indenture bearing date the day next before the | day of the date hereof? of in consideration of five shillings Here and by the | force of this Article for transferring this? into possession) and to their | Heirs and Assigns BUT that and those that part of the said lands of Drumkeen | herein before mentioned containing thirty eight Acres now and for some time | past in the possession of the said [Grahams] together with One Acre and a half | of the Old Bog next adjoining the said thirty eight Acres and also one acre and | a half of bog in own field across the road? next adjoining James Montgomerys | Park together with all and every the ? ? ? Appurtenances thereunto belonging or | appertaining (Excepting and reserving out of this present demise unto the said | Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and | Assigns respectively also Mines? Minerals ? ? ? ? ? ? ? in or upon the | premisses [sic] or any part thereof And also ? unto the said Mervyn Archdall | the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and Assigns full liberty | of fishing fowling Hunting and Hawking at all times during this demise) TO HAVE | AND TO HOLD all and Singular the said demised lands and premisses [sic] with | the Appurtenances (Except as before excepted) unto the said [Grahams] and their | Heirs and Assigns from the day before the date hereof for and during the | Natural life and lives of Christopher Graham now a private in the Seventh | Dragoon Guards Thomas Graham Eldest son of John Graham the Lessee and William + | Graham Second + + Son of William Graham the Lessee aged about four? years and | of the longest liver of them and for and during the Natural life and lives of | all and every such other life and lives as shall from time to time forever | hereafter be added to the term of this demise by virtue of the Covenant for | perpetual renewal herein after mentioned + | ?ING AND ING? therefore and thereout yearly and every year during this demise | the ? sum of Four pounds Fifteen Shillings Sterling the same to be paid by two | equal Gales? every first day of May and first the first day of November Clear | over and above all Taxes Charges Subsidies Impositions and payments laid or to | be imposed thereupon by Act of Parliament or otherwise howsoever the first | payment thereof to be made on the first day of May next ensuing the date hereof | AND if the said revised? yearly rent or any part thereof shall be in Arrears or | unpaid for the space of twenty one days next after the half yearly days hereby | appointed for payment thereof that then and as often as it shall so happen it | shall and may be lawful to and for the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and | Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs or Assigns into the said demised | premises or any part thereof to enter and distrain and the distress and | distresses then and there found to take lead drive carry away impound and | dispose of for payment of said Rent Arrears and all expenses attending the same | AND if no sufficient distress or distresses can or may be found upon the said | demised premises or any part thereof equivalent to the payment of the rent so | then in Arrears that then and in every such case it shall and may be lawful to | and for the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger | their Heirs and Assigns into the said demised premises or any pat thereof in | the name of the whole to ReEnter? and the same to have again Repossess and | enjoy as in their first and former Estate anything herein contained to the | contrary notwithstanding AND the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn | Archdall the Younger do and each of them do + hereby for themselves their Heirs | and Assigns Covenant and agree to and with the said [Grahams] their Heirs and | Assigns in manner and form following (that is to say) that they the said Mervyn | Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and Assigns upon | the failure or death or any of the lives of the said Christopher Graham Thomas | Graham and William Graham shall and will at the instance and request the said | [Grahams] their Heirs or Assigns within six Months from the day of the death of | the person so dying add and Insert or cause to be added Inserted in the place | or instead of the life so dying the life and lives of such other person and | persons as shall and may from time to time be Nominated by the said [Grahams] | their Heirs and Assigns for that purpose they the said [Grahams] their Heirs | and Assigns paying to the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall | the Younger their Heirs or Assigns the Sum of Two pounds Seven shillings and | six pence as a Renewal fine on the Insertion of every such life so to be | nominated as aforesaid over and above all rent and Arrears then due and shall | and will forever hereafter at the ?nomination of the said [Grahams] their Heirs | or Assigns Add and Insert to the time and term of this demise a life or lives | in the place of the person so dying which life or lives so to be added and | inserted as aforesaid are to be endorsed on this lease or written on deeds or | labels on parchment to be hereunto affixed or on separate deeds (provided that | they the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder or Mervyn Archdall the Younger or any? | of their Heirs or Assigns shall not be obliged to leave their usual place of | abode on the execution of any such renewal) It being the true instant? and | meaning?of these ?and of the parties hereto that they the said [Grahams] their | Heirs and Assigns shall have still in being ? ? shall be made herein of a lease | of the hereby demised premises consisting of three subsisting? lives Next? the | said [Grahams] do hereby for themselves their and? of their Heirs and Assigns ? | ? Covenant promise and agree to and with the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and | Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and Assigns that they the said | [Grahams] their Heirs and Assigns shall and will at all times hereafter upon | the failure of any life which shall be so added to the term of this demise pay | or cause to be paid to the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall | the Younger their Heirs and Assigns Two pounds Seven shilling and sixpence | being half a years rent over and above the said ? yearly rent within Six months | after the failure of death or every such life such so dying as aforesaid | without fault or deduction provided always and it is hereby declared to be the | true intent and meaning hereof that if at any time it shall happen upon the | failure of any life that they the said [Grahams] or either of them their Heirs | or Assigns shall not pay unto the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn | Archdall the Younger their Heirs or Assigns Two pounds Seven shillings and | sixpence being half a years rent over and above the yearly rent within six | months after the failure of such life and that they do not nominate within six | months the life of some other person in lieu thereof to be added to the term of | this demise that then it shall and may be lawful to and for the said Archdall | the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs to deny and refuse to add | and insert or put the life or lives of any other person or persons to the time | or term of this demise other than the life and lives that shall be then in | being and that the said demised premises from thenceforth shall be and remain | to the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their | Heirs or Assigns in like manner as if these presents? had been made for their | lives only AND the said [Grahams] do hereby for themselves their Heirs and | Assigns Covenant promise and agree to and with the said Mervyn Archdall the | Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and Assigns by these ? that | they the said [Grahams] Heirs and Assigns shall and will at all times hereafter | during the term hereby devised will and duly satisfy content and pay to the | said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs and | Assigns the said yearly rent and renewal fine on the days and at the times | herein before ? and for the payment thereof clear above all taxes as aforesaid, | AND that they the said [Grahams] their Heirs and Assigns shall and will during | this demise Preserve Uphold Support Maintain and ? the said demised premises | and all Improvements made and to be made ? on ? efficient? tenantable repair | Order and Condition And at any determination of the demise? shall and will so | have? and yield up the same unto? the said Mervyn Archdall the Elder and Mervyn | Archdall the Younger their Heirs or Assigns AND that they the said [Grahams] | their Heirs and Assigns and their undertenants and all other Occupiers of said | demised premises or any part thereof shall from time to time and shall at all | times hereafter during their lives? ? on the ? every? ? and to them given do | sail? and Service at every Court ? and ? Baron? that shall be held ? for ? ? ? | ? and ?? and pay the usual fee or ? money to the ? ? ? and that they and every | of them ? and every of their Heirs and Assigns shall from time to time and at | all times hereafter during this demise ? or cause to be their ? ? that shall ?? | ? ? ? ? ? and pay the? ? ? ? ? ? for the same AND LASTLY the said Mervyn | Archdall the Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger do hereby for themselves | their Heirs and Assigns Covenant and agree to and with the said [Grahams] their | Heirs and Assigns that they and every of them their Heirs and Assigns only? | paying the said reserved yearly rent and Renewal fine and performing ? ? ? ? | ?on their parks? to be done and performed shall ? may penalty ? ? have ? ? | xxxxx all and singular? the said demise ? with their? apportances without the | let sail hindrance Molestation or disturbance of the said Mervyn Archdall the | Elder and Mervyn Archdall the Younger their Heirs or Assigns or of any person | or persons lawfully claiming or to claim by ? or under them any one? ? ? IN | WITNESS whereof the parties ? ? have hereunto put their hands and seals this | Day and ? first above writen. | (signed) Thomas Graham Archibald Graham John Graham Thos Graham William Graham | Archdall ? M Archdall
| From: "cowan4356" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:13:01 AM | Subject: The Cowans of Clonkeen/Glenkeen Fermanagh | I am researching my step fathers Cowan family of Clonkeen townland in Fermanagh | in Ireland. | I am posting some information which I have gathered about the origins of the | Clonkeen Cowans and their relationship to the Archdales with the wish that | others who may be researching the same may be able to shed some new light and | insights into the thoughts I have. What is written here are my thoughts and | guesses as to the origins and should be treated as such. Any feedback is | welcomed. E arly history of the Cowans in Ireland and their relationship to the | Archdales | Scottish or early Irish origins? | The Ulster Scot Historical Society were commissioned by the family in 1965 to | perform research on the Cowan family from Clonkeen. They mentioned that Cowan | is both an Irish and a Scottish surname. They said that from the location of | Clonkeen, it seems likely that the family came from Scotland as the Irish | Cowans are found mainly in the West of Ireland or in County Armagh. | The Ulster Scot Historical Society report goes on to say that : | 1) The 1631 Muster Roll for County Donegal, Barony of Eneshone, Lord | Chichester's men, 2 armes, lists a Robert Cowene - sword only, and Walter | McCowene | 2) The County Fermanagh Muster Rolls 1631 and the Heath Money Rolls 1665-1666 | for Lurg Barony both show nil for Cowan | 3) The subsidy rolls for County Donegal from 1664, a form of tax list, records | one Robert Cowan in Taughboy townland [1] which is in the Barony of Raphoe | south and so within easy reach of County Fermanagh. | The Ulster Scot Historical Society reports that although this is not conclusive | proof of the absence of Cowans in Fermanagh, they were probably not there in | the period 1631 - 1664. Cowan family lore goes against these scant written | records. Another theory is that the Cowans were not landowners until they | married into the Graham and Moffitt families included in the Rossachrin lease | of 1699 (see section below). | Family loresays that the family first came to Ireland from Scotland and that | they fought in the battle of Flodden in Scotland in 1513 when the Scots invaded | Britain and then came to Ireland some time after that. Cowan residence in | Bunaninver burnt in 1614 | Cowan family lore says that the first Cowans built a house on the site where the | very first Castle Archdale was later built. We know from written history that | Castle Archdale was in the modern day townland of Bunaninver with Shallany | neighbouring it to the east and Clonkeen again further to the east. | Family lore says that the Cowans predate the Archdales on this land and that the | Cowans had a house that was fortified and called Rossmore. This Cowan house was | burnt down in 1614 and never rebuilt at the same location. What was built in | its place was the very first Castle Archdale. Family lore says that stones from | the Cowan house were used to build Castle Archdale. Castle Archdale 1618-1689 | It has been written that By Letters Patent, dated July 13th 1612, John Archdale | obtained a grant of lands in the barony of Lurg, Co. Fermanagh, but it is | proposed that he did reside on his land until 1614. | In the book 'The history of Enniskillen with reference to some manors in co. | Fermanagh: and other local subjects, Volume 1' (William Copeland Trimble, | published 1919) on page 122, there is a description of Castle Archdale from a | visitor in 1618-19 : | "John Archdall hath 1000 acres called Tullana. Upon this | proportion there is a bawne of lime and stone with 3 flankers | 15 feet high ; in each corner there is a good lodging slated, | with a house in the bawne of 80 feet long and three stories | high, with a battlement about it ; himself with his family are | there resident. He hath also a water mill, and in two several | places of his land he hath made two villages, consisting of | 8 houses a piece. | The Inquisition of 1629 lists the freeholders on the Archdale estate, but does | not mention any Cowans. Perhaps they had a different status at this stage or | were not considered freeholders until they moved to Clonkeen. | The first Castle Archdale burnt down in 1641 in the Irish rebellion. The castle | was rebuilt on the same location by a later Archdale but was again burned in | 1689 and then abandoned. | There would seem to have been no big house on the Archdale estate for much of | the 18th century, until a new (third) castle Archdale was built between 1773 | and 1778 in the townland of Rossmore which still stands today. Rossachrin Grand | Lease 1699 | After the family lore history which states that Cowan house burnt down in 1614, | it wasn't until 85 years later in 1699 that the Cowan surname appeared in | written history in a Grand Lease for the townland of Rossachrin . The earliest | mention of Rossachrin is in 1659 when it was referred to as Rosskrun in the | Irish census when there were 6 English and 2 Irish people counted. | In 1699 a Grand Lease was arranged with Archdale for the townland of Rossachrin. | Here is an extract from a description of the lease | (http://graupner.blogspot.com.au/) : | Ffrancis Moffitt and John Graham on 1 May 1699 take a Grand Lease, doc. T2832/1 | from WM. Archdale of Castle Archdale of County Fermanagh, Ireland. They would | buy this lease from Archdale and thus be the under lords of the area later | stated. Unfortunately the cost stated in the lease had water damaged therefore | no data. Now the lease states that both men were living in Rossachrin as Yeomen | at the time of the lease. | The lease states all the estates to Rossachrin Glanson Lands and Rossmackasabud | and the urbal part of Ballymackataggart and all is commonly known as | Rossachrin. They also had several acres of peat bog adjacent to their lands. Ed | note, that this townland was 425 acres more or less. Part of this townland was | the Archdale castle and property. It cannot be proved but it is believed that | their part was about 140 to 180 acres. At some time about 1760 to 1770 Mervyn | Archdale, who was a Lt. Col. in the Army, decides he want all of Rossachrin for | his estate. Over time Archdale would exchange the land for other areas. | Although it rather confusingly appears from this description of the lease as | though the name Thomas Cowan was replaced twice (1773 and 1784), what is clear | is that both David Cowan and his son Thomas Cowan were names on the lease. It | is assumed that David Cowan was the ancestor of the Clonkeen Cowans. | The blog mentions that, at the time of the Grand Lease, the townland of | Rossachrin included the third Castle Archdale which is now in the modern day | townland of Rossmore. Clonkeen 1622 onwards | There is mention in the book 'The history of Enniskillen with reference to some | manors in co. Fermanagh: and other local subjects, Volume 1' on page 125 of | Edward Archdale born 1604, who succeeded his father John Archdale in 1622, | being allocated additional lands at 'Clonkeen'. It is not known whether this | was the initial allocation of Clonkeen land or an additional allocation over an | already existing one. | In 1720 a survey of Mervyn Archdale lands included the following description for | Clonkeen: | Chloonkeen | Is bounded on the west by Urbulshiney, on the north by Drimyagh, on the east by | Drumrain, on the south by "Lougbrusk" and part of Shalonagh. | The arable and green pasture of this farm is very good ground. The bog may be | drained by draining the corregh which would turn to good account; there is | about 4 acres of it and it would all be meadow if the wood were stubbed. | Viz. arable and pasture 123 acres 2 roods 26 perches. | Bog 19 acres 0 roods 32 perches | Contains in all 42 acres 3 roods 18 perches. | Arable and green pasture 34 acres 1 rood 16 perches. | Bog and corrogh 16 acres 2 roods 8 perches. | Contains in all 100 acres 3 roods 24 perches . Cowans move to Clonkeen between | 1747 and 1751 | In 1744 the Archdales were writing to the Cowans to let them know that they were | to remove themselves from Rossmore and relocate to the townland of Clonkeen. | In a letter from A. Archdale addressed to 'David Cowan of Rossmore by Castle | Archdale near Enniskillen' dated 11/1/1744, A. Archdale is negotiating with | David Cowan on his removal from Rossmore to lands at Clonkeen. The address on | the letter is interesting because the old castle Archdale had been destroyed in | 1689 and the new one was not begun until 1773, so where was 'Rossmore by Castle | Archdale' in 1744? It may be possible that there was an Archdale residence at | Rossmore between the years 1689 and 1773 near where the Cowans lived. Cowan | Family lore says that the Cowans were 'moved from their original homesteads at | Rossmore to make room for the Archdale demesne to be enclosed'. This | recollection lends weight to the proposal that the Cowans were living near an | Archdale residence at Rossmore. | This is the transcribed text of the first letter : | This letter is addressed as follows : | For (Dav) id Cowan at Rossmore by (Castle Arc) hdale near Enniskillen. 11th Jane | 1744. Enniskillen. | Mounteccles 11th Jan '44 | Sirs | I had your letter as also one from your father in law about the | exchange.I am sti1l in ye same mind as when I left ye country | but as nothing could be done until I come there I thought it | needless to write or trouble you with ye expense of letters.You | observe very justly that this has proved a hard season and that | it will be attended with difficulties upun you and your brother | to remove next spring, for that reason I would have you go on | with your labour ..her.. ,and then you will have the next | summer to cut turf and make ye proper preparations for a | removale the spring following and have ye advantages to | incloase gardens in ye winter which may be turned and prepared | for garden stuff against the spring. I hope youle be careful of | ye trees on ye lands and some lime step ? into Clonkeen and see | no wesk be these committed. I shall always consider any other | mans coud dou as if I were in that man's place my self | therefore shall not desire your removal this year although it | will prevent my doing so.. what there next summer which may be | a loss to me but I chose that rather than anybody shud have | reason to complain. I shall be at home early in Spring and I | hope this will be sufficient until we meet. | I am your ffriend and humble servant A Archdall | This letter was possibly written by Angel Archdale, as she was the only 'A' | Archdale at the time. If this letter was indeed written by Angel, then her | language regarding 'I shall always consider any other man's coud dou as if I | were in that man's place my self ..' is interesting. Perhaps the letter was | dictated to her by a male advisor? | And this is the transcript of the second letter (undated, but Angel died in 1745 | so it is assumed that it is written circa 1745): | Sir | Since I saw you on Saturday I consulted councellor Sterling | about ye articles between ye and yr sons in lawr, who says that | the article myst be registered in Dublin. But in particular for | this reason, that David Cowan their father left the freehold to | his sons David and Alexander yr sons in law and you know that | he has a son elder than them by the same wife, also then another | son called John Cowan of Liford by a former wife now pray why | might not John Cowan or his sons pretend a right to these lands | or Adam and his sons, being heirs at law, therefore you ought to | have this article immediately registered, w.E (which) setts | forth ye will and tenhore ? of old David Cowan in leaving this | freehold to his younger sons. I have ye will and will keep it | for their info as well as for my own family ? So that you are | to send the articles to me that I may see them registered in | Dublin and I doe hereby promise and oblige myselfe to deliver | them after they are registered to you for which purpose keep | this letter by you and show it to no man until you give it to | me. | I am yr ffriend and humble servant A Archdall | Brothers David and Alex Cowan were recorded in the 1747 freeholders list for the | townland of Rossmore . But by the 1751 freeholders list, David and Alex Cowan | were listed in the townland of Clonkeen and so it is assumed that they moved | between the years 1747 and 1751. | A Grand Lease was written between the Cowans and the Archdales for the Clonkeen | lands. It was dated 4 July 1749. The Lease most probably included the names of | David Cowan and his son Thomas as mentioned in a Cowan family indenture | document from 1838. This document mentions that 'David Cowan, formerly of | Clonkeen aforesaid being devised and possessed of the lands of Clonkeen in the | County of Fermanagh under and by virtue of a lease for the lives renewable for | ever from the Archdale Family by indented articles of agreement made by and | between the said David Cowan and his son Thomas Cowan'. | The Ulster Scot Historical Society report mentions that "A rent roll of | Archdall's Derrygonnelly Estate, 1753, lists 'The Cowans' - no Christian names | given - as Tenants in Clunkeen and Adam Cowan in Shallony". | Richard Cowan (1808 - 1877) migrated to Australia in the 1850's. He appears to | have inherited some or all of the Clonkeen lands before he migrated. It is | through copies of his letters from Australia back home to Ireland that we | understand that his brother William Cowan (circa 1800 - 1880) was living at | Clonkeen and was paying rent to the Archdale's for his own land as well as | collecting rent from the other tenants at Clonkeen. It appears that the Grand | Lease agreement allowed the lives on the lease to sub-lease the land and | collect rent from the sub-tenants. | In Richard's letter to brother William at Clonkeen dated 27/9/1868 he describes | the lease as follows : 'Dear William, I received your letter today dated 25th | August last - I have just had a look at the Deed between the Cowans and the | Archdales I find it is on payment of £5.0.0 spoken of for each life therefore | if it were necessary to put two lives in it would be only 10£ instead of your | strange information from Mr Collum or any other Gentleman attorney the Deed is | dated 4 July 1749 in it there is a condition which to all appearances would | compel me to give notice six months after the Death of any life to the Heirs of | the property (on the payment of £5.0.0 only) to put in whoever I would nominate | if this condition has not been changed by an Act of Parliament (which I believe | it must have) Clonkeen will soon be out of the name and indeed I would say | justly through the neglect of our Uncle D. Cowan who I fear never did get the | lives renew'd and I fear never gave any notice to General Archdale - at the | Death of Mr Lendrum who is the last life do not you forget as my representative | to give notice in writing to the Heir Mr Archdale before 6 months expire and | Three £5.0.0 notes say £15.0.0 stating the name of 3 lives and I am persuaded | He will grant you Archdale 1st get him to put it on paper his offer Then ask | such a man as Mr Irvine of Irvinestown would he make an offer on paper or any | other person who you know has money to lay out in such a place money must be | very plenty as your interest is very low in the London market I see only 3 | percent and some Banks here paying share Holders 17 1/2 per cent per annum | Interest on their shares .' | From this description, it appears that Richard had either the original or a copy | of the Grand Lease document with him in Australia. It is not known where it is | now. | [1] Refer http://www.townlands.ie/donegal/taughboy/
Here too. And thanks for that Irishtv link. Carl On 2016-03-18, at 12:00 PM, Viola Wiggins via wrote: > Coming through loud and clear > Vi > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 18 Mar 2016, at 11:05, Eilish via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> test >> >>> On 18/03/2016 9:36 PM, JM POOLE via wrote: >> >> ========================= >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Dave The Pattersons I traced were from Drumacahan, Drumkeeran. My Robert LAWSON married Margaret PATTERSON on 27 February 1855 at Tubrid Church, Drumkeeran. The record showed her as PEDERSON and it was one of my early finds on Fermanagh Gold. Margaret's parents were Launcelott Patterson b abt 1788 and his wife Ann DUNCAN. They had a large family of 11 children: Thomas Feb 1805, Margaret Dec 1805 , Alicia 1807, George 1811, Samuel (married to Jane NOBLE), John 1816 (married to Elizabeth Mulligan), Anne (1819), Thomas 1823, Lancelott 1826, Martha 1827, and Elizabeth 1829. I understand there were still Pattersons living in the area in 2005. I also have a record (but without any further information) of - Jane Patterson b 1805 Father Daniel Patterson - Margaret Patterson b 1872 Father Alexander Patterson Mother Mary Ann Rankin Your Alexander in Devenish was about 20 years younger than Launcelott and possibly not connected in any way. But you never know! Regards Joan > On 18 Mar 2016, at 01:20, Dave Patterson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Joan > > My names in Fermanagh start with Alexander Patterson b:1770 Devenish > His son George married Eliz Wilkins. > > I've pieced together some earlier info, but it's a little sketchy, and not > sure of, trying to piece together..... > > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: JM POOLE [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: March 17, 2016 1:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: PATTERSON research > > What names are you researching? I have distant links with Pattersons in > Drumkeeran if this would be of interest. > Joan Poole Edinburgh > >
Hi Shirley and Anne S. in Ottawa. Glad you enjoyed the St.P’Day Card....Cheers , Bruce in TAURANGA, NZ. Re:- Family History Research.....don’t know if you read my recently completed Biography of the life of my Grand-dad :- “Two World Wars in the Royal Navy, Edgar Graham’s Story”....it’s “in Store “, I believe in F-G Archives. Well after a good day of research yesterday, where I located , and placed an Order for the Medal Card; Service Record and Mention in Despatches, for Edgar’s youngest brother George William Graham....I’m not far off producing a Biography for George as well. When completed , I shall send a copy to FG Admin., for “Storage” with , hopefully free access by any interested Members. All the Best the ‘noo , n’all, Bruce Graham
Yes, I have all of the articles from the Catholic Transcript covering pages 1, 4, 6, 8, & 9 the week of his death. There was one very small paragraph on "survivors" and another that mentioned St. Thomas Seminary. It also mentioned St. Mary's in Baltimore, but he would have only gone there for a short time and I did get a recording when I called there yesterday. The rest of the articles focused on his many accomplishments over the course of his religious life. The following week they published photos of the funeral and the "homily"/eulogy that the archbishop gave which I also have. I never met his siblings as they lived out of state, but it's hard to find my relatives in the photos! His funeral was attended by 32 bishops and "some" 400 priests! I certainly am proud of being related to him although I think he should have known his maternal grandmother's name and his mother's correct birth date! What is interesting is that if his grandfather Denis Shea married Bridget Sullivan and Denis' sister, my great-grandmother Mary Shea married Patrick Sullivan, did they each marry a sibling? If so, the bishop and I are doubly related! When my Dad went into the Navy as a teenager, he listed Bridget (the bishop's mother) as his next of kin, rather than one of his siblings. Both of his parents were deceased at the time. I started this hours ago and keep getting sidetracked, so I am sending it now. Hope you had a happy St. Pat's day. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 7:23:38 AM | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Bishop | Marge, | Did you already check for an obit in the diocesan newspaper? | Janet | ------------------------ | Rob, | Yes, he is the one. There is a lot more information about him in | newspapers and books (especially regarding Cesar Chavez). I met him on | several occasions and he even married (performed the ceremony) my | cousin. However, when his mother, Bridget Shea Donnelly, died he gave | the information and did not know her mother's name! I am hoping that it | would be in those admission records. His mother and my grandmother were | cousins and that information could help me break down that Shea brick wall. | Slán, | Marge in Southern California | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Congratulations Val! :-) :-) :-) :-) And on St Pat's Day as well. You must be thrilled ! Eilish On 17/03/2016 7:58 PM, val mcleish via wrote: > > Hi Everyone, I have missed FG but put the extra time to good use and I HAVE > NOW FOUND the CLIBBORN GARLAND 1839 marriage I have been searching for > FOREVER!!! I took advantage of the index to Catholic PRs on Ancestry and > made a few mental jumps and there it was, but the Clibborn name was so faint > the indexer had not picked it up at all. So I transferred to the NLI site > because that has better screen enhancements and ONLY because I knew it was > there I could read every letter! This was in the next county to where I had > been looking. I am very grateful to Eilish, Marge, Dave, and others who gave > me advice on dispensations. I have the names of the marriage sponsors and > when I have more time I will work on their origins, which MAY lead me to a > parish where I can check further. But that is for the future. > Happy St Patricks Day > Val Mc in Brighton > > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello, Bruce, wonderful news that you are writing biographies of your Grahams. The closest I have come to a book is my genealogy database which has extensive notes and text, in addition to all the facts, photos, and documents, etc. Now I am trying to figure out how to get it all on the Internet. Keep up your good work! Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Bruce Graham via <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Jackquie Lawson E.Cards..... Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:30:22 +1300 Hi Shirley and Anne S. in Ottawa. Glad you enjoyed the St.P’Day Card....Cheers , Bruce in TAURANGA, NZ. Re:- Family History Research.....don’t know if you read my recently completed Biography of the life of my Grand-dad :- “Two World Wars in the Royal Navy, Edgar Graham’s Story�....it’s “in Store “, I believe in F-G Archives. Well after a good day of research yesterday, where I located , and placed an Order for the Medal Card; Service Record and Mention in Despatches, for Edgar’s youngest brother George William Graham....I’m not far off producing a Biography for George as well. When completed , I shall send a copy to FG Admin., for “Storage� with , hopefully free access by any interested Members. All the Best the ‘noo , n’all, Bruce Graham ========================= https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Kia Ora , E Hoa ! Tena koe....do yis still have what "us Foreigners " know , called :- "Moreton Bay Bugs ?" If I could get my hands ( and later my teeth...only 7# left !) around, say 7 , or 8 of them, it would make my day ! Pretty humid over this side of "The Deetch " too.....but cooling off .... "I think !" Enjoy Saint P's Day....but DO TAKE CARE ! Guid neet , an arl tha' stuff ! Bruce the Grayme ! -----Original Message----- From: Dee Byster-Graham via Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 4:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD To all Members Wishing all our members a very Happy St. Patrick's Day! >From a still hot and humid Moreton Bay, Australia. Kindest regards, Dee. ========================= https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message