Sorry, OSM.ie is shorthand for http://www.openstreetmap.ie/ which is the website for the OpenStreetMap Ireland community. OpenStreetMap is a database of geo-data which is used by townlands.ie to generate the information it displays. We are currently trying to link townlands.ie to http://logainm.ie and http://placenamesni.org/ as well as other resources such as the Griffith Valuation and Census records. If you click on these links and you dont get to the correct page, please let us know. The problem is that some townlands have been spelt differently depending on the resource. Thanks, Clive On Sunday, 20 March 2016 16:05:26 GMT [email protected] via wrote: > Hi, > > We have some layers on OSM.ie that might help with that. The following link > is to an OSM base map, with townlands and civil parishes layers turned on. > > http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html? > zoom=15&lat=54.23527&lon=-7.27114&layers=000B0FFFFFTFFF > > If you spot any mistakes or omissions with these maps please let me know. > I’m especially interested in sub-townlands and other places that might not > be marked. > > Clive > > On Sunday, 20 March 2016 08:03:18 GMT Brandt Gibson via wrote: > > > Is there a way to get a good, easily readable map of the townlands in > > > Drumkeeran parish? I've tried using the Griffith's Valuation maps, but > > > they are hard to read sometimes, and the website makes scanning the map > > > for townland names a bit cumbersome. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Brandt Gibson > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, We have some layers on OSM.ie that might help with that. The following link is to an OSM base map, with townlands and civil parishes layers turned on. http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html? zoom=15&lat=54.23527&lon=-7.27114&layers=000B0FFFFFTFFF If you spot any mistakes or omissions with these maps please let me know. I’m especially interested in sub-townlands and other places that might not be marked. Clive On Sunday, 20 March 2016 08:03:18 GMT Brandt Gibson via wrote: > > Is there a way to get a good, easily readable map of the townlands in > > Drumkeeran parish? I've tried using the Griffith's Valuation maps, but > > they are hard to read sometimes, and the website makes scanning the map > > for townland names a bit cumbersome. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brandt Gibson

To get a map where you can see the townlands will be tricky due to scale!! http://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/drumkeeran/#map --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

http://www.clogher.anglican.org/Parishes/index.php?p=ParishesMap Ctrl++ and you can enlarge... then printscreen it if you want and save it as jpeg DH --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Someone (Norma King) just posted this on Facebook at Fermanagh Genealogy Centre. I thought I'd pass it on for those researching FALLIS and ACHESON from Fermanagh to Canada. There's a great photo with this post. "I n honour of my Irish heritage this is a picture of my great, great grand parents on my mother's side. Pictured is William Acheson(1812-1910) and Christina (Fallis) Acheson (1827-1907). William arrived in Canada from Enniskillen on May 12, 1850 with only 10 cents in his pocket. His wife followed a year later. They had 11 children! This picture was taken in 1902. They built a farm in 1863 that remained in the family until 2014! One day I want to bring my mother to Enniskillen!" Janet C

Alicia / Viola, I’ve just spent a lovely few minutes with you online. I wish you had said Ballinamallard a few more times, so that I could have picked up how it was pronounced!! You are looking well. I loved your stories. Warm regards & best wishes. Carole in OZ.

Dave, Well that makes sense. Why put stuff in the archives with a subject "Digest" ?????? A lesson for us all to remember when replying to a digest or in digest mode. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare | From: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | To: "fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> | Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29:11 AM | Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Archived messages Missing in Action | It's OK Marge.... my post went in Digest but not in Archive ...neither | did your reply (below), sent days ago, which went in Digest, didn't get | archived! | I thought someone asked about Crozier recently and had the Pedigree | yesterday, but when I went to Archives to find post I didn't find it. | Not to worry | Dave | On 15/03/2016 10:30, Marge in SoCal wrote: | > But Ancestry does not have nearly as much as Find My Past had. I used | > it during the free week, the first week in March, and found some more | > of my folks in the indexed church records. Mind you, FMP is FREE | > forever for the church records, but the search facility is now very | > cumbersome. | > Slán, | > Marge in Southern California | --- | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. | https://www.avast.com/antivirus | ========================= | https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There have been several questions about maps lately. Here is mygo-to list for maps (from my web page on Places.). My usual place to start is: Ordnance Survey of Ireland <http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0> Or else, the maps associated with Griffiths Valuations on the /Ask About Ireland/ Site <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/>. Mapco has an 1838 map of Ireland <http://ireland1838.com/ireland43.htm>which can be viewed in enlarged segments. For maps of Ireland in the 1650s: The Down Survey of Ireland <http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/history.html> hosted by Trinity College is an amazing site. You can also do a search <http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php> and learn a great deal more about how the early maps relate to later ones. A site that tracks population changes in Irish parishes from 1841 to 2002: Irish Famine Population Data <http://ncg.nuim.ie/redir.php?action=projects/famine/explore> A site that is now one of my go-to places when I want to see adjacent townlands is:http://www.townlands.ie/ <http://www.townlands.ie/> Wikipedia is useful for tracking down varient townland names, as is the Sean Ruad site <http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/>. To track the Irish versions of names that preceded the English version:Placenames Database of Ireland <http://www.logainm.ie/> To track down English, Scots, or Irish place names: Place names in Northern Ireland <http://www.placenamesni.org/index.php> Bob Sinton's townland maps: http://www.bob-sinton.com/maps2/mapsx.php Townlands superimposed on contemporary maps: http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html A wonderful site for Monaghan maps is done by Monaghan County <http://193.178.1.178/Monaghan_allcounty_gplan/>. For Dublin, see the 1798 Dublin Map at Mapco: Mapco <http://dublin1798.com/> Another great site is Dennis Garvey's site for parishes and townlands in Co. Louth <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edgarvey/louth_townlands.htm>.. <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edgarvey/louth_townlands.htm>I also did a blog post that although it is about a townland in Armagh, the same strategy is pertinent for other counties. http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-tale-of-townland.html Good luck all! Sharon PS I will be in Ireland April 11- May 13 (or so). I start in Dublin, and will be in Armagh April 25-29, then Gilford Co. Down Apr 29-May 13. All subject to some change. -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/

Can anyone connect to this Hunter / Crawford family? James Hunter & his wife Jane Elliott, immigrated from Fermanagh to Canada between 1830 & 1838. A descendant of James & Jane, Canadian ‘Robert Nassau Hunter' recuperated in Ireland (?Fermanagh) with relatives there, late in WW1. Whilst there he married in Omagh, Kilskeery, a nurse Julian Crawford (presumed to have lived in the Omagh area.) Please contact if you have any information about either of these Hunter or Crawford families. Thank you, Carole Elliott.

For those researchers with access to individual lease and grand lease records involving ARCHDALE land, if I could please ask for an eye to be kept out for the name FLETCHER. I have FLETCHER at Drumadravey in Derryvullen Parish in the early 1700’s. Some of this family are buried in the 1700’s at Old Castle Archdale cemetery (aka Lisnarick Cemetery). In the 1800’s FLETCHER's were said to have been agents to the ARCHDALE’s. A MOFFITT family lived near Drumadravey in the 1901 census for Monaghan North. FLETCHER is likely a border reiver family as with GRAHAM and ARMSTRONG. So leases on ARCHDALE land involving any of these names could also include FLETCHER. With many thanks, and keep up the good work. The recent lease transcriptions make wonderful reading!!! Doug Fletcher

1773-1863 Andrew & 1776-1849 Catherine (Armstrong) Moffit, were married at St. Mary’s Ardess in 1798. Andrew was recorded in Salloon in the 1796 Freeholder records. Earlier records show this family in Drumbulcan & Drumgarrow. In the 1630’s Muster Rolls of Co. Fermanagh- Moffet William, Sword and musket, Sir Gerrard Lowther, Kt. Lourgg 2000a. In a 1721 Will - A James Moffit, Drumgarrow, Trory, with a son William. In the 1788 Poll of Electors- William Moffit - Drumbulcan, Magheracross. If you are a descendant of Andrew & Catherine Moffat from Salloon, Drumbulcan, Lettermoney or Sidaire in Magheracross, or from the adjacent townlands of Makenny in Kilskeery, or Drumgarrow in Trory, please contact. With other descendants in Magheracross, the UK. & Australia, we are attempting to connect our Moffit family to the 1699 ‘Grand Lease’ Moffits, listed in Rossachrin & Drumschool on the Archdale Estate. Please contact, if you believe you are a descendant of these Moffatt/ ett/ itt families. Together we may make the giant leap back to 1699. Thank you, Carole E.

Hi Dave, I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through over here. Eilish On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: > It might be just my youth BUT.... > > Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it went live > again?? > > The Archive is here.. > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03?m=t&n=y&d=y&s=Redisplay > --------------------------------------- > > I sent this... (missing from Archive!) > > Subject Ancestry has Free access to Irish records for March! > > Now that FG is up and running,, Ancestry has Free access to Irish > records for March! > > http://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/free-irish-records?o_iid=70156&o_lid=70156&o_sch=Internal+List > > > So no need for any queries/posts to FG until April!! > > > DH > > ===================================== > > and I sent this... (missing from Archive!) > > > Subject Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Ancestry has Free access to Irish records for > March! > Just using Ancestry brought me to this... > > http://man-fe.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?ct=facet&fctN=facet_jtitle&fctV=Clogher+Record&rfnGrp=1&rfnGrpCounter=1&frbg=&indx=1&fn=search&dscnt=0&scp.scps=scope%3A%2844MAN%29%2Cprimo_central_multiple_fe&tb=t&vid=MU_VU1&mode=Basic&ct=Next%20Page&srt=lso01&tab=local&dum=true&vl%28freeText0%29=Fermanagh&dstmp=1458058611230 > > > which gets one Clogher Record online... > ------------------------------------ > > > even though they went out in Digest! > > DH > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's OK Marge.... my post went in Digest but not in Archive ...neither did your reply (below), sent days ago, which went in Digest, didn't get archived! I thought someone asked about Crozier recently and had the Pedigree yesterday, but when I went to Archives to find post I didn't find it. Not to worry Dave On 15/03/2016 10:30, Marge in SoCal wrote: > But Ancestry does not have nearly as much as Find My Past had. I used > it during the free week, the first week in March, and found some more > of my folks in the indexed church records. Mind you, FMP is FREE > forever for the church records, but the search facility is now very > cumbersome. > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

> Is there a way to get a good, easily readable map of the townlands in Drumkeeran parish? I've tried using the Griffith's Valuation maps, but they are hard to read sometimes, and the website makes scanning the map for townland names a bit cumbersome. > > Thanks, > > Brandt Gibson

Darling Vi Why can't you have your own BBC TV Show,,,"Alicia Presents" ??? Each week a different story from your Brilliant repertoire Then it would all be recorded for future members of Clan na Wiggins :-) Grand XXOO Rob in MA 'Shire's

Hi, Marge, So how long does it take until an Archived message is searchable? Do we know? Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dave H. via" <[email protected]> To: Marge in SoCal <[email protected]>, fermanagh-gold <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 21:58:57 +0000 Yes the ones I sent just now are in Archive already but ones sent a few days ago are not. Dave On 19/03/2016 21:54, Marge in SoCal wrote: > Dave and All, > > It takes awhile for messages to show up in the archives. When I was > checking the archives to see when folks posted last (back in Jan) 2015 > messages were not showing up! They would show up on Google > though!!!! If you go to the specific month, it will show up but the > search function will not bring it up. Here is the link in the archives > to the message that I am responding to: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03/1458423632 > > Go figure > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Eilish" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" > <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:40:32 PM > *Subject: *Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action > > Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! > > > Dave > > > > > On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through > > over here. > > > > Eilish > > > > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: > >> It might be just my youth BUT.... > >> > >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it > went live > >> again?? > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ========================= https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

... and if one doesn't want to watch it all just use slider to go to 12:20 and start there!! DH FERMANAGH-GOLD Fwd: Fermanagh Matters 49 - Irish TV viola (Alicia)in person Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 23:01:52 +0000 References: <[email protected]> > This is an earlier programme about the Florencecourt/Killesher area http://www.irishtv.ie/fermanagh-matters-49 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

> This is an earlier programme about the Florencecourt/Killesher area http://www.irishtv.ie/fermanagh-matters-49

Yes the ones I sent just now are in Archive already but ones sent a few days ago are not. Dave On 19/03/2016 21:54, Marge in SoCal wrote: > Dave and All, > > It takes awhile for messages to show up in the archives. When I was > checking the archives to see when folks posted last (back in Jan) 2015 > messages were not showing up! They would show up on Google > though!!!! If you go to the specific month, it will show up but the > search function will not bring it up. Here is the link in the archives > to the message that I am responding to: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-03/1458423632 > > Go figure > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > Lynch in Kildare, Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"fermanagh-gold" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Eilish" <[email protected]>, "fermanagh-gold" > <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:40:32 PM > *Subject: *Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD Missing in Action > > Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! > > > Dave > > > > > On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through > > over here. > > > > Eilish > > > > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: > >> It might be just my youth BUT.... > >> > >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it > went live > >> again?? > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Yes went in Digest but missing from Archive! Dave On 19/03/2016 21:38, Eilish wrote: > Hi Dave, > I don't know about archive, but that message certainly came through > over here. > > Eilish > > On 20/03/2016 8:14 AM, Dave H. via wrote: >> It might be just my youth BUT.... >> >> Does anyone else have messages missing from Archive since it went live >> again?? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus