Possibly book a night's stay at The Four Season's Hotel if visiting? The Four Seasons Hotel, Monaghan is OWNED and managed by Clann McKenna Members – Frank and Anne Marie McKenna. DH FERMANAGH-GOLD Lurker - McKenna - Disappointed Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 00:10:13 +1100 I’ve been reading these emails for years. I live in Australia, have been to Ireland 5 times since 2010, but have learned nothing. A few years ago I posted on this site requesting information on my family, but did not draw a single reply. My connection is with Roslea (now Rosslea). There are many McKenna graves in St Tierney’s church yard, many fairly recent, so there is still a family connection in the area. Richard McKenna Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The Four Seasons Hotel, Monaghan is OWNED and managed by Clann McKenna Members – Frank and Anne Marie McKenna. The “Seasons”, as it is known locally, is also home to our regular fortnightly Clann McKenna meetings which are held every two weeks. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

You could email hotel when Clan is there.... http://www.4seasonshotel.ie/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

*Two day event on Friday 22nd & Saturday 23rd April 2016* All details of the Clan McKenna International Gathering including accommodation lists available by contacting Clann McKenna at: [email protected] --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Did you contact Jerry? http://www.jerrymckenna.com/site/contact.htm --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Good luck, Cliff! The key is finding some local people like Vi and Dave to help you out! But no stealing them allowed! ;-) Janet On 3/23/16 4:35 PM, Cliff. Johnston wrote: > OK, I've submitted a request to Rootsweb to start the "DERRY-GOLD" list. > I trust that the owner and/or administrator/s of the Fermanagh-Gold list will forgive and consent to my overt plagiarism and abject lack of originality;-) > Good hunting, > Cliff. >

So... without looking at phonebook etc, how many can you recite?? :-D :-D DH Re: FERMANAGH-GOLD McKenna in Monaghan. Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:36:37 +0000 References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Out of interest I counted some McKenna names with Monaghan telephone numbers and gave up at the Ps as I'd reached 300. Most of them in Emyvale, Clones and Scotstown areas. That would indicate research needed in those areas because families in Ireland did not move far from their roots, apart from emigration. Viola --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello RIchard, If you haven't already done so, I suggest that you check the online Baptismal records for St. Tierney's from Sean Rooney's wonderful website: http://www.rooneys-of-roslea.com/databases_records/St_tierneys_baptisms/m3.html As well as the records for Sacred Heart in Clones (half way down the page): http://www.rooneys-of-roslea.com/records_index.html John in NC On 2016/03/23 09:01 , Dick & Ruth McKenna via wrote: > May I thank the people who responded to my posting of late January. > > Unfortunately, all suggested courses of action have already been followed, > and nothing has been gained from them. > > As I stated, we live in Australia and have visited Ireland five times. We > spent a lot of time in Roslea and Monaghan Town, with some stays up to 7 > days. > > It's a long haul from here to Ireland, and we accept that our next visit may > well be our last. Age and health must be taken into account. > > My wish was that someone from the Roslea/Clones/Monaghan Town area who was > researching the McKenna family would reply to my posting. I am disappointed > to reveal that such was not the case. Many headstones/gravestones in the > cemetery beside the lovely St Tierney's Church prove that a strong McKenna > connection still exists in the area. > > Your honour, I rest my case. > > Richard McKenna > Tasmania > Australia. > > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Origin of the McKennas with a history of the sept. Main Creator: Mathews, Anthony. Format: BOOK Language: English Published / Created: Dublin : Prescott, AZ : A. Mathews ; 1972. Magee Publications, Edition: 1st ed. Subjects: McKenna family. Notes: Coat of arms on cover. Physical description: 32 p --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The MacKennas of Truagh / by C. Eugene Swezey, III. Main Creator: Swezey, C. Eugene. Format: BOOK Language: English Published / Created: [Huntington, N.Y. : Swezey], 1977. Edition: 2d ed. Subjects: McKenna family. Monaghan (Ireland) > History, Local. Monaghan (Ireland) > Genealogy. Notes: Bibliography: leaves 64-71. Physical description: xiv, 124 leaves : ill. ; 29 cm. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

FERMANAGH-GOLD McKenna Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:01:06 +1100 References: <[email protected]> Well if the tribe won't reply then not much more can be done!! DH ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> May I thank the people who responded to my posting of late January. Unfortunately, all suggested courses of action have already been followed, and nothing has been gained from them. As I stated, we live in Australia and have visited Ireland five times. We spent a lot of time in Roslea and Monaghan Town, with some stays up to 7 days. It's a long haul from here to Ireland, and we accept that our next visit may well be our last. Age and health must be taken into account. My wish was that someone from the Roslea/Clones/Monaghan Town area who was researching the McKenna family would reply to my posting. I am disappointed to reveal that such was not the case. Many headstones/gravestones in the cemetery beside the lovely St Tierney's Church prove that a strong McKenna connection still exists in the area. Your honour, I rest my case. Richard McKenna Tasmania Australia. From: "Dave H." <[email protected]> Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD Calling All McKennas!,Clan McKenna International Gathering,Two day event on Friday 22nd & Saturday 23rd April 2016... Monaghan Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:13:56 +0000 ========================================================== Calling All McKennas! *Clan McKenna International Gathering* *Two day event on Friday 22nd & Saturday 23rd April 2016* Here at Clann McKenna, we are currently finalising the Programme for our very special 2016 International Gathering. This great event will take place in and around Monaghan on Friday 22nd and Saturday 23rd April 2016. Commencing on the Friday evening at 7.30pm in the Four Seasons Hotel, Monaghan <http://www.4seasonshotel.ie/>; – our base for the weekend – we have the inauguration ceremony when the current Clan Chieftain, Marie Curley, Ardaghy, Monaghan will pass this role to the incoming Chieftain, Jerry McKenna from Texas, USA. This will be followed by a buffet and entertainment. On Saturday 23^rd , commencing from the Four Seasons Hotel, we undertake the McKenna Trail of North Monaghan <http://clannmackenna.ie/?page_id=149>; taking in McKenna places of interest such as Liskenna Fort, Errigal Truagh Old Graveyard, Donagh Graveyard, the grave of the ancestors of General Don Juan McKenna, military officer and hero of the Chilean War of Independence, the McKenna Cross amongst others. This will be followed by lunch and a talk by an historian in the Four Seasons Hotel. On Saturday night a buffet and musical entertainment is being held in Ardaghy Community center and is being hosted by the outgoing Chieftain, Marie Curley, to honor the newly inaugurated Chieftain. Coach transport will be provided from and back to the Four Seasons Hotel for the McKenna Trail and the Saturday night entertainment. The incoming Clan Chieftain, Jerry McKenna <http://jerrymckenna.com/>; – the first United States Chieftain – a graduate of the University of Notre Dame and formerly an officer of the US Air Force, is a world renowned sculptor based in Boerne, Texas. Two of his famous sculptures in Ireland are of famous Kilkenny hurling goalkeeper, Ollie Walsh in Thomastown, Co. Kilkenny and in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary of famous Irish tenor, Frank Patterson. All details of the Clan McKenna International Gathering including accommodation lists available by contacting Clann McKenna at: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> or from the secretary on 087 – 755 9095 (within Republic of Ireland) or +353 87 755 9095 (from outsite Republic of Ireland). We look forward to hearing from you and to welcoming you to this great Clann McKenna http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FERMANAGH-GOLD/2016-01/1454163236 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Out of interest I counted some McKenna names with Monaghan telephone numbers and gave up at the Ps as I'd reached 300. Most of them in Emyvale, Clones and Scotstown areas. That would indicate research needed in those areas because families in Ireland did not move far from their roots, apart from emigration. Viola

James, You can view the PDF scan of the pages and print them off. Just click on Household return and you can see the original page as filled out by the household or the agent. This link is an example - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/ nai000789531/ Clive On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:05:23 GMT James Mullan via wrote: > Thank you Roisin. I wasn't sure that the hard copy still existed. > James > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roisin Lafferty via > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:30 AM > To: James Mullan via > Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD hard copy 1901 census > > You can email or phone the National Archives Dublin to discuss the hard > copy of the 1901 Census... Roisin > ========================= > https://www.facebook.com/groups/FermanaghGold/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can email or phone the National Archives Dublin to discuss the hard copy of the 1901 Census... Roisin

Richard, Considering that the Lakeland Telephone Directory lists over 90 people named McKenna ranging from Newtownbutler to Kesh, a considerable distance. I did not count the entries for the bordering counties to Fermanagh in the section for the Irish Republic there are still a large population carrying the surname around. I don't remember your original post in January but I feel certain you cannot have given enough details of your family in Ireland. Names, dates, Townland, and Parish etc, are very important to any researcher. If the information supplied was what you already had, it would indicate that the places you had searched were not mentioned. That meant that the same ground was ploughed through by the person/persons trying to help you. Information about the family AFTER they left Ireland is not relevant to someone researching Irish records. Do you know the Townland they originated from? If so PRONI have on line the Updated Valuation pages giving the occupier changes between c 1862 to c1925. Before visiting Ireland it is very important to do your homework so that anyone helping you has a foundation to build on. Please do not be offended by any of the above as it applies to dozens of other researchers on this List. F-G is the best and most helpful list on Rootsweb. Members have transcribed more records and provided free of charge access to them through our website, and IGP website. Thank you to those transcribers. Viola

James NAtional Archives Ireland have the whole 1901 and fragments of other census on line. When you find the family you can view the original document by clicking on a link and see the original form with the signature of the head of family. Also available for 1911 which can show how long the couple have been married to the named spouse, how many children born to that union and how many still alive. If you get into difficulty contact me and I'll see if I can help you. Sometimes because the transcribers were not familiar with Irish names or the handwriting some names have been mistranscribed. If you find a mistake there is a link to submit a correction. Viola Sent from my iPad

Got it!! Wonderful, Vi! So nice to hear your voice and your stories. Hugs, Janet On 3/23/16 11:42 AM, Carl Maguire wrote: > It worked all right in Canada. Try copying the link and pasting it on Google.ie > > On 2016-03-23, at 7:56 AM, caiside via wrote: > >> Any chance this could get put on Youtube so we in the US could see it? >> >> Janet C. >> >> On 3/22/16 4:09 AM, Eilish wrote: >>> Alicia!!!! >>> I have waiting for days to get the time to watch you on tele, and what >>> a treat it was!! So lovely to see you , although we have done Skype, >>> but this was so much better. Was that your house in the background? >>> Your parents and all your family, wherever they are -- you did them >>> proud. Love the stories of your childhood, and I've always spent so >>> much time as a small child with much older relatives that I long >>> worked out that it's so much fun to listen to how things were in the >>> "old days". Sounds like you had a wonderful childhood and now you are >>> a Celebrity!!!! >>> >>> Good on you, Vi! >>> >>> Eilish oxoxoxo (special occasion!) >

Cliff, I too have family links back through Tyrone to Kilrea, Coleraine and other places in Londonderry. Trouble with the Derry list is that the admin has it set for replies to go to individuals not to the entire members like FG. I joined the Derry one and unless one clicks reply to all it never appears to the members. I soon Unsubed from that one. We on FG are the very best at working together, helping each other and solving puzzles, even throwing in the off subject item as an aside occasionally. We are a Golden Family and I am proud to be a part of that family. Viola > On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:18, Cliff. Johnston via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I may be biased, but I have yet to come across a genealogy group 1/10 as good as Fermanagh-Gold. My hat is off to all who participate and make this such a great site. > My problem is that I have Johnstons and Johnstones, Hursts and Andersons also in Co. Derry. If you haven't tried the Rootsweb site for Londonderry you aren't missing much. Is there a chance that someone could set up a Derry-Gold site for us who are bipartisan??? That would give us an udder choice [weak pun, but intended];-) > Cliff.

Thank you Roisin. I wasn't sure that the hard copy still existed. James -----Original Message----- From: Roisin Lafferty via Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:30 AM To: James Mullan via Subject: FERMANAGH-GOLD hard copy 1901 census You can email or phone the National Archives Dublin to discuss the hard copy of the 1901 Census... Roisin

Sharon, Thank you!! Great list. Janet C. ---------------------- There have been several questions about maps lately. Here is mygo-to list for maps (from my web page on Places.). My usual place to start is: Ordnance Survey of Ireland <http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0> Or else, the maps associated with Griffiths Valuations on the /Ask About Ireland/ Site <http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/>. Mapco has an 1838 map of Ireland <http://ireland1838.com/ireland43.htm>which can be viewed in enlarged segments. For maps of Ireland in the 1650s: The Down Survey of Ireland <http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/history.html> hosted by Trinity College is an amazing site. You can also do a search <http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php> and learn a great deal more about how the early maps relate to later ones. A site that tracks population changes in Irish parishes from 1841 to 2002: Irish Famine Population Data <http://ncg.nuim.ie/redir.php?action=projects/famine/explore> A site that is now one of my go-to places when I want to see adjacent townlands is:http://www.townlands.ie/ <http://www.townlands.ie/> Wikipedia is useful for tracking down varient townland names, as is the Sean Ruad site <http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/>. To track the Irish versions of names that preceded the English version:Placenames Database of Ireland <http://www.logainm.ie/> To track down English, Scots, or Irish place names: Place names in Northern Ireland <http://www.placenamesni.org/index.php> Bob Sinton's townland maps: http://www.bob-sinton.com/maps2/mapsx.php Townlands superimposed on contemporary maps: http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html A wonderful site for Monaghan maps is done by Monaghan County <http://193.178.1.178/Monaghan_allcounty_gplan/>. For Dublin, see the 1798 Dublin Map at Mapco: Mapco <http://dublin1798.com/> Another great site is Dennis Garvey's site for parishes and townlands in Co. Louth <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edgarvey/louth_townlands.htm>.. <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edgarvey/louth_townlands.htm>I also did a blog post that although it is about a townland in Armagh, the same strategy is pertinent for other counties. http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-tale-of-townland.html Good luck all! Sharon