I am looking for the family of a Samuel Cauthers, born in Ireland about 1802 based on his age at death, who married in 1824 at a Presbyterian church in Montreal Jane Bave, and died in Montreal. He had atleast two children. John Cauthers was born in Quebec in 1823, from his age at death in Dec 1895 at age 72, of alcoholism, suggesting perhaps his father was previously married, lived and died in Montreal, married a woman from England, and had a son, Edmund, and four girls, one was my great grandmother. Samuel, born in Quebec about 1830 from his age in 1871 census, went to Ottawa, on the edge of Ontario, and married in the Roman Catholic cathedral there in 1856 and 1859, Catherine Meloney and Elizabeth Ford, and still lived in Ottawa in 1871 census, but may not have died there. I don't know where her family were from, but has anyone ever heard of the name Bave? Even with a different spelling, like Beve? Samuel Cauthers listed his birthplace as Quebec but his origin as Irish, suggesting that she, too, was Irish. There was another Cauthers family in Ontario. They were descended from Thomas, who settled in Dufferin, having come with his brother whose name I don't have in the 1820's to work on the Erie Canal. The brother supposedly went to Oregon or Washington, whre there is indeed a bunch of people named Cauthers. The name is so rare there are only two dozen phone listings for that name and six e-mail addresses in all of the U.S. and Canada. There is also a bunch of them in I think British Columbia, for some reason, and at one time there was a bunch in northern Michigan, I think quite possibly descended from Thomas, and I think they alternatively spelled their name Cathers. Which is a more common name. But my family seem to have known how to spell, and spelled their name with absolute consistency. John Cauthers was a clerk and accountant, and Samuel a hardware clerk. The descendent of Thomas who answered my mass six e-mail addresses e-mailing said her cousin who researched the family found that not all of the Cauthers in Ontario were related to each other. Some of them may be descended from my Samuel. According to both my Cauthers source whose cousin researched the family, (and whose records are buried in the attic), and also my own preliminary checking, there were only Cauthers in Ireland around Enniskillen and Tempo, Fermanagh County, Ireland. She may also ahve mentioned somewhere else, a town or a county, close by. I have found traces of them also in a place in Scotland, and two places in England. They had a tradition of having been Huguenots. In the REformation, people fled across the Channel by the tens of thousands in each direction, and I have another Irish Huguenot line - from Galway, also Protestant. Cauthers is an anglicized form of the name Gauthier. In fact, at the state mental hospital where my great grandmother, who had lifelong mental health problems, died, they got confused and typed her name on her death certificate as Gauther! BEcause the family was not of sound mental health and Quebec is how it is, and my great grandmother seemed decidedly over the edge on the subject of her "ENGLISH-Canadian" ethnicity, and Gauthier is a common name in Quebec, I thought until I proved he was Irish that John Cauther had anglicized his name! I would like to act on the notion that my Samuel is likely to be a Presbyterian from the area of Enniskillen and Tempo. How do I pursue that? One thing I'm not doing is going to Ireland. Yours, Dora Smith