In a message dated 2/8/01 4:13:14 AM, [email protected] writes: << My grandad was born in Belleek but although I could find his baptism record from 3 weeks after his birth, neither the Belfast nor the Dublin Records office could find a birth record for him when I submitted all known details to them. >> When you got Belfast and Dublin to look for the record, how wide a timespan did they cover? While it was customary to baptize infants soon after birth, sometimes a much longet time elapsed. (Sometimes the church record indicates this.) So I'd look as much as 2-3 years before the baptism, AND include either simply "mae child" in your search, or even the possibility of another name. Occasionally a child is given one name at birth and then is baptised with another, or called by his middle name. Another idea, check the 1901 census, and see how old he is there. You might also check Belleek school records--maybe they recorded his birth date. Good luck! Janet C-S