In reply to Thomas Moffat This is a huge anomoly for many people who do not know the area, but there is a huge difference today as opposed to prior to the separation of the 6 counties from the 26 Counties of Ireland. CLONES PARISH on the records up to the 1920's does not mean that the people lived in Clones in County Monaghan Every certificate I have , and I have at least a hundred of the Rosslea area show the PARISH as CLONES. but my ancesters come from Eshnadarragh, Corraleek and Corragunt, all very definitely in Fermanagh. In 1922 this changed to the UNION OF LISNASKEA on all certificates. The confusion is made even worse by the fact that west of Rosslea ie. Aghadrumsee, Newtownbutler etc where the CHURCH RECORDS were not held by individual churches, at least if they were they deny it, and you have to apply to the PARCOCHIAL HOUSE , THE SACRED HEART , CLONES. What I think is not realised is how small Fermanagh actually is and where the National Boundary lies between the NORTH and SOUTH of Ireland. In some cases and indeed as was on the farm I was brought up on ,the boundary was only a stream and the farm was actually straddling Fermanagh and Monaghan. Hence my comments in previous listings where I warned to watch out for this as the 'HUSBAND TO BE' only had to cross the fields to COURT his Bride to be. This also applies to LEITRIM, DONEGAL.CAVAN. all in the 26 Counties and TYRONE in the six Counties. To illustrate better perhaps, I could travel by car from Enniskillen to Clones taking the scenic route in under an hour. From Rosslea to Clones 15 Minutes. Newtownbutler to Clones 15 minutes. Dernawilt Cross to Clones we cycled on a regular basis taking us about 45 minutes depending who we met on the way. Maureen

Hi All.. I hate to show my ignorance here, but just exactly what Is a Townland? Was it a farm, owned by one family, an area that consisted of more than one farm?? I realize I am very ignorant about this. For instance my husband's ancestors(which is the family I am trying to uncover) were the KIRKPATRICK's.. I have learned that his grgrgrgrandparents were married in Aghavea, and a relative still living in Lisnaskea tells me in a letter that her Father and Grandfather were both born in "the Drumhack cottage".. i really believe that her grandfather is the son of my husband's grgrgrgrandfather John Kirkpatrick, but she is 93, and doesn't seem to remember. She also mentions McGuires Bridge.. Are these places all very close?? Or even the same.. I looked up Drumhack on the Proni site, and another and they both say that Drumhack is a Townland in the Parish of Aghalurcher, Co Fermanagh.. Can anyone help me here?? Thanks in advance, and I do apologize for my ignorance on this matter.. Bonnie Kirkpatrick in the Thumb of Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: Map of Fermanagh > In reply to Thomas Moffat > > This is a huge anomoly for many people who do not know the area, but there is > a huge difference today as opposed to prior to the separation of the 6 > counties from the 26 Counties of Ireland. CLONES PARISH on the records up > to the 1920's does not mean that the people lived in Clones in County > Monaghan Every certificate I have , and I have at least a hundred of the > Rosslea area show the PARISH as CLONES. but my ancesters come from > Eshnadarragh, Corraleek and Corragunt, all > very definitely in Fermanagh. > > In 1922 this changed to the UNION OF LISNASKEA on all certificates. The > confusion is made even worse by the fact that west of Rosslea ie. > Aghadrumsee, Newtownbutler etc where the CHURCH RECORDS were not held by > individual churches, at least if they were they deny it, and you have to > apply to the PARCOCHIAL HOUSE , THE SACRED HEART , CLONES. > > What I think is not realised is how small Fermanagh actually is and where the > National Boundary lies between the NORTH and SOUTH of Ireland. In some cases > and indeed as was on the farm I was brought up on ,the boundary was only a > stream > and the farm was actually straddling Fermanagh and Monaghan. Hence my > comments in previous listings where I warned to watch out for this as the > 'HUSBAND TO BE' only had to cross the fields to COURT his Bride to be. > > This also applies to LEITRIM, DONEGAL.CAVAN. all in the 26 Counties and > TYRONE in the six Counties. To illustrate better perhaps, I could travel by > car from Enniskillen to Clones taking the scenic route in under an hour. From > Rosslea to Clones 15 Minutes. Newtownbutler to Clones 15 minutes. Dernawilt > Cross to Clones we cycled on a regular basis taking us about 45 minutes > depending who we met on the way. > > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >