Hi Again James: I use family tree. I know that it probably isnt the best but it is what I started with 4 or 5 years ago. I never went on line with my info because I really didnt know how when Ifirst started. Now there is so much info on both my mom and dads sides that it would just take to much space etc. I would like something differnet my self, something that would let me do it my way a little and for each of my children etc. I am probably asking too much from a program. but if you hear of a good one let me know also. My Irish Grandmother Mary Maguire married a German fellow called Grover Hipple. I have things that go back on that side forever. My mom did that one though. Talk to you again soon JoAnn