Jason, Thanks, but much too recent for mine. My Samuel was born ca. 1793 and had left for North America by the mid-1840's. He died 12-15-1847 and is buried in Crysler, Ontario, CANADA. It would appear that he took most all of his children, including married adult children with their spouses to Canada. It was a sizeable party. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "jason mills" <jason.mills1@ntlworld.com> To: <fermanagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] JOHNSTONE in Cahore - Part 2 > > Hi Cliff > The daughter below is associated with a Robert and a > Sarah. > I have collected this data as an aside. > The location of these people will have been Co > Monaghan, Ireland or Belfast. > > Vague I know. From word of mouth. > > If you ha > > > Jason > ________________________________________________ > > 1 Robert Johnstone Number of children: 1 > > - +Sarah Number of children: 1 > > -- 2 Margaret Jane Johnstone b: 25 March 1889 > > ______________________________________________ > >>From Aghabog Church Register. > > > > 1 Samuel Johnstone > > - +Margaret Greddin b: in Clones m: 2 November 1858 in > Aghabog Father: James Wadswotth > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a Thompson family from the townland of Fedian just outside Enniskillen who emigrated to the Bayfield area of Ontario in the 1840's. If you think there may be a connection, I can send you more info. Murray Bell ----- Original Message ----- From: Research Researcher<mailto:lists@post.com> To: FERMANAGH@rootsweb.com<mailto:FERMANAGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: [FERMANAGH] Thomas Thompson, c. 1822 My ancestor Thomas Thompson gave his birth statistics as 20 October 1822 somewhere near Clones, but it is not clear whether the event occurred on the Fermanagh or the Monaghan side. He seems to have had a brother William and possibly also a brother Andrew, but any other siblings remain presently unknown. In the late 1840s or early 1850s he married Eleanor Rickey, whose birth took place in Fermanagh in late 1827 and whose christening record has been located nearby at Clones, Monaghan in early 1828. This couple subsequently emigrated to Canada, where they both died in the early 1900s at very advanced ages. However no further trace of Thomas' birth, christening or parentage, nor of the marriage, has ever been found in any logical source or place. These people were staunch adherents of the Church of Ireland. If anyone might perhaps be able to help or advise in clearing up any of this mystery, such kindness would most certainly be very deeply appreciated indeed. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FERMANAGH-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:FERMANAGH-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My ancestor Thomas Thompson gave his birth statistics as 20 October 1822 somewhere near Clones, but it is not clear whether the event occurred on the Fermanagh or the Monaghan side. He seems to have had a brother William and possibly also a brother Andrew, but any other siblings remain presently unknown. In the late 1840s or early 1850s he married Eleanor Rickey, whose birth took place in Fermanagh in late 1827 and whose christening record has been located nearby at Clones, Monaghan in early 1828. This couple subsequently emigrated to Canada, where they both died in the early 1900s at very advanced ages. However no further trace of Thomas' birth, christening or parentage, nor of the marriage, has ever been found in any logical source or place. These people were staunch adherents of the Church of Ireland. If anyone might perhaps be able to help or advise in clearing up any of this mystery, such kindness would most certainly be very deeply appreciated indeed.
From: "Research Researcher" To: NORTHERN-IRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas Thompson, c. 1822 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:14:05 -0500
Born: 1 May 1835 either in county Donegal or Fermanagh son of Edward Flanagan and Bridget Gallagher. Grandson of William Flanagan and Margaret Durnin Emigrated to New York, then in to Baltimore, Maryland Married Bridget Haddigan about 1866-1867, place unknown Died 1916, Baltimore, Md. My Great Grandfather Bud Flanagan, in Arizona
Hi Cliff The daughter below is associated with a Robert and a Sarah. I have collected this data as an aside. The location of these people will have been Co Monaghan, Ireland or Belfast. Vague I know. From word of mouth. If you ha Jason ________________________________________________ 1 Robert Johnstone Number of children: 1 - +Sarah Number of children: 1 -- 2 Margaret Jane Johnstone b: 25 March 1889 ______________________________________________ >From Aghabog Church Register. 1 Samuel Johnstone - +Margaret Greddin b: in Clones m: 2 November 1858 in Aghabog Father: James Wadswotth
hello listers, a message was posted last week , regarding the 1901 and 1911 census being made available online in canada. i emailed them to ask when this was going to be available, and this is their reply. sean Dear Sean, Thank you very much for your email regarding the digitization project of the 1901 and 1911 Irish Censuses. There is the intention for the National Archives of Ireland to launch a first-phase pilot - specifically for Dublin of 1911. At this time, we know that this will happen after June of 2007, as there have been some delays. Beyond that pilot, there are no official dates that have been specified at this time. What is certain is that the material will become available in stages over the next few years due to the large scale of this project. We appreciate your interest and invite you to continue to visit the website for the National Archives of Ireland www.nationalarchives.ie/ where this Census Research Tool will reside when launched. Announcements will also be made on the Library and Archives Canada website, likely on our "Shamrock and Maple Leaf" web exhibition featured at: www.collectionscanada.ca/ireland. Thank you again for your interest. Sincerely, Kristina Lillico Kristina Lillico Project Manager / Gestionnaire de projets Web Content and Services / Contenu et services Web Library and Archives Canada / Bibliothèque et Archives Canada 395 rue Wellington St. , Ottawa, ON, K1A 0N4 Tel (613) 943-0236 Fax (613) 992-1560 kristina.lillico@lac-bac.gc.ca ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________
I should have mentioned in part 1 that I have an old family photograph on which our family name is written "Johnstone". William Robert Johnston, b. 1852 to Robert "Red Robin" Johnston and Mary McQueen, married in 1885 Sarah A. Johnstone, b. 1856. Sarah and William's marriage was said to be a "double Dutch marriage". Oral family history had them as cousins; however, a genealogist on Sarah's side of the family could find no relationship going back 2 generations. Unfortunately I do not know what happened to this person's work or who the genealogist was. I also do not know where in Ireland William's father was from. As the Johnston and Johnstone families knew each other in Canada it is possible that they knew each other in Ireland. Sarah's family farmed in Finch Twp., Stormont Co., Ontario, Canada. Her family came from Ireland ca. 1845. From various church records and the local cemetery I have been able to put together some of her family as follows. Samuel Johnstone, b. ca. 1793 in Ireland married Maria "X", b. 1791 in Ireland. Their children were born in Cahore, Co. Fermanagh: Archibald, b. ca. 1811, m. Jane Reynolds, b. ca. 1818; Jane was his second wife Robert, b. ca. 1815, m. Mary Atchison, b. ca. 1819 Abraham, b. ca. 1816 Ella, b. ca. 1816, m. William Coventry, b. ca. 1806 William, b. ca. 1821, m. Martha "X", b. ca. 1817 Frances (Francis?), b. ca. 1825 George, b. ca. 1828 Mary, b. ca. 1828 In Finch Twp., Stormont Co., Ontario, Canada, Archibald Johnstone and Jane Reynolds had the following children: Archibald, b. 1848 Thomas Henry, b. 1850 Jane, b. 1851, m. Christopher Hetherington, b. 1847 Abraham, b. 1854, m. Susan Johnston Sarah, b. 1856, m. 1885 William Johnston, b. 1852 Mary Ann, b. ca. 1858, m. 1879 James Graham, b. ca. 1858 Harriet, b. ca. 1860 Samuel, b. 1860, m. 1883 Harriet M. Stewart, b. ca. 1837 Walter, b. 1863 William, b. 1866 If you have any information on any of the above I look forward to hearing from you. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
Like all too many Johnston/es I'm looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack with both of my hands tied behind my back. My interests are: 1. Francis "Frank" Johnston, b. ca. 1805 in Ireland, married Frances "Fanny" Hud ca. 1825. They went to Upper Canada settling in Prescott Co. ca. 1826. I believe that Frank and Fanny were married in Ireland. The 1861 Canadian census indicates that she was born in Ireland. Frank and Fanny settled on a farm that was owned by a George Johnson [sic] according to the 1822 Assessment Roll. I have no other information on George. He does not appear on the 1827 Assessment Roll which is the first year that Francis appears on it. Some oral family history views Fanny with a chuckle - she was known as a "social climber" and told anyone who would listen that her husband was English...not Irish or Scottish. Frank was a successful farmer but died from a heart condition at age 45. 2. Robert "Red Robin" Johnston, b. ca. 1807 in Ireland, went to Upper Canada ca. 1832. My gggrandfather married Mary "Mae" Frances McQueen in 1833. 3. Archibald "Archie" Johnston, b. 1815 in Ireland, went to Upper Canada ca. 1832 with Robert (above) who was either his brother, cousin or uncle - take your choice as oral family histories are very divergent on this subject. I believe that they were brothers. In addition a brother, name unknown, was lost to illness either on the voyage to Upper Canada with Robert and Archibald or shortly after they arrived in Quebec. A married sister, name unknown, was said to have remained behind in Ireland with her husband. The Assessment Roll of 1834 for Upper Canada shows a Catherine Johnston living with Francis and Frances Johnston and the Assessment Roll of 1835 shows a Thomas Johnston living with Francis and Frances Johnston. Both Catherine and Thomas are recorded only one time each. I have no other information on them. I suspect that they were adult members of Frank's family, possibly a brother and sister who had come over from Ireland recently. I refer to Francis, Robert and Archibald as the "Wee Three" as all were said to have been tall with my gggrandfather coming in at 6'-5" - the same height as my son incidentally. All owned farms in Upper Canada (now N. Plantagenet Twp., Prescott Co., Ontario) within walking distance of each other and close to the town of Pendleton. We have no locations in Ireland for any of the Wee Three; however, various sources of oral family history have them coming from all over the island - Ballymena, Londonderry, Tara, Co. Donegal, Co. Fermanagh and Co. Cork being mentioned. To make matters even more frustrating is that in the 1920's 2 of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland, found all of our Johnston kin buried (none surviving), made a journal containing their burial details, and now no one knows what has happened to the journal or where the 2 sisters visited. Ca. 1905-1910 a sailor came to my ggrandfather's farm searching for a Johnston. He had been hired by a solicitor in Ireland. The last of our Johnstons had died leaving no surviving kin in Ireland and a small estate. He may have been an inn owner. My grandfather moved about this time to a better farm in Clarence Twp., Russell Co., Ontario, Canada, on what is now Johnston Road. Oral family history indicates that Red Robin's father was born in Scotland, moved to Ireland, married, raised a family and died in Ireland - no name or locations though. Y-DNA testing identifies us as Danish Viking who settled in Scotland. A Y-DNA cousin has his Danish Viking Johnstones placed at Poldean (a large farm in Scotland) and as members of the Old Gang of Wamphray who fought successfully at Dryfe Sands. When Poldean passed from Johnstone ownership ca. 1743 the family seems to have split up and moved on within a generation or so. Most of my newfound Y-DNA cousins have their ancestors leaving Scotland about this time and going to England, Ireland, Upper Canada, and the U.S.A.. We have Y-DNA tests linking Robert and Francis but no oral family history. We have oral family history linking Robert and Archibald but no Y-DNA tests. I have had some very good luck in finding old family photographs and have restored some. The Johnston Family Album may be viewed at: http://www.pbase.com/cjmax/photo_restoration&page=all Robert "Red Robin" Johnston and Mary "Mae" McQueen had 16 children of whom 13 survived, and I'm fortunate to have photographs of Red Robin, Mae and 11 of their children. If any of the above sounds familiar or you have any information on any of the above, please, don't be bashful, contact me...ASAP... :-) Part 2 to follow... Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
I received a TON of response to my request for help in deciphering my 1733 medallion, and I want to thank all of you who took the time to help out. You went "above and beyond" and provided me with lots of history aside. I think a lot of people thought it was a great mystery to be solved and had fun while helping me at the same time. Many of you asked to be notified when an "answer" had been found. One person suggested that the words might not be Irish or Scottish at all--they might be Norwegian. And, in the end, that is exactly what it turned out to be. The words are in Norwegian........they say... Erindring af Dom 29 November. (Apparently in old Norwegian) KMM 1807 In Remembrance of 29 November.....HMM 1807 Hans Mathias Moller - my gr-grandmother's grandfather. Another great lister found this as well for me, After all of these years thinking the medallion was of Irish-Scot origin, I now believe that it is from my gr-grandmother's family (Moller =M) from Trondheim, Norway. Thru marriage, the Mollers and the Littles came on down the generations, from Norway and Canada........to me. You were all wonderful............many, many thanks for all of the effort you put into finding the answer to this puzzle. If you wanted to take a last look, go to http://users.ecenet.com/wdcopper/medallion.html Jeanne
bud why am i getting 2 of your emails everytime gerry
If you subscribe to multiple sites, you will get multiple copies. I send one to the Flanigans,Flannigans 1 to Clan Flanagan, not all belong 1 to Fermanagh, for my Gallagher, Downey & Durnin family 1 to Flanagans, who do not belong to Clan Flanagan Bud in Arizona
When the Plantation period, 1606 to 1620 was completed and they land had to be worked, the English and Scottish Undertakers hired men to supervise the workings and the hiring. They had to keep books on rents received and expenses. These books were the property of the Manor and Estates. These books were started in the 1600's and far outdate church records. Is is very helpful to find our not only the townland our ancestors came from, but also the Manor/Estate on which it was located. Some of these books are still in existance. Bud Flanagan, in Arizona
hi there, patrick flanagan belfast here,my father lived in cooneen at moans cross buried in brookeboro i dont know if there is a relationship? ----- Original Message ----- From: <PatrickJones04@aol.com> To: <fermanagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [FERMANAGH] Flanagan in Eniskillen > hi bud,chatting to my mum in law, who is a great fan of the > streets,original > enniskillen,she said their was flanagans living above liptons shop in > high > st,other flanagans related to her some way are T.P.flanagan the > enniskillen > artist,and a flanagan family half brothers of a slevin/slavin > family.flanagans > shoe shop was another family still prominent in the town.a great > tradition > over here is cemetery sunday/blessing of the graves when existing family > tidy > and pray at family graves if i find your flanagan grave iwill make > enquiries. > cheers paddy. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
hi here is a question to the list . I found an old grave yard named Magheracross Yard when I was in Enniskillen years ago(7 yrs) . it was neglected and overgrown, and some of the stones moved off the top of the flat graves.does anyone know if there is a list of its occupants.It was very old and all faiths where buried there. thanks for any help. Dot Donnelly-sexton
Thanks Bud
hi bud,chatting to my mum in law, who is a great fan of the streets,original enniskillen,she said their was flanagans living above liptons shop in high st,other flanagans related to her some way are T.P.flanagan the enniskillen artist,and a flanagan family half brothers of a slevin/slavin family.flanagans shoe shop was another family still prominent in the town.a great tradition over here is cemetery sunday/blessing of the graves when existing family tidy and pray at family graves if i find your flanagan grave iwill make enquiries. cheers paddy.
hi bud, patrick flanagan in belfast here.i was doing a bit of rooting around my father patrick was born in the early twenties he had brothers,matthew,alfred,joseph and sisters rose,?mary,bridget and agnes i have heard that their parents whom i dont have info on may have come to brookeboro in fermanagh to work on lord brookeboros land as labourers etc so thats the avenue im looking at now see you pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Flanagan" <liam@cox.net> To: "County Fermanagh" <IRL-FERMANAGH@rootsweb.com>; "Fermanagh" <Fermanagh@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Flanigans" <Flanigan@rootsweb.com>; "Clan Flanagan" <clanflanagan@yahoogroups.com>; "Flannigan" <Flannigan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: [FERMANAGH] Flanagan in Eniskillen > Patrick Flanagan, abt 1838 to 4 Mar 1913, buried in convent cemetery > Mary (Flanagan), 1844 to 1 May 1921, his wife, in convent cem > > There three sons; all in same plot with parents > > > John Flanagan, 1870 to 2 Feb 1936 > William Flanagan, 1872 to 1939 > Patrick Flanagan, 1868 to 19 Jul 1936 > > Patrick Flanagan was my G Grandfather's brother. > > This is my brick wall; > > Bud Flanagan, in Arizona > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FERMANAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
is it OK if add these names for cross reference to my Flanagan file ?? Bud
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